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Different Fear
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;3049856]Unless you are someone famous like Eliot Spitzer, you really don't have too much to worry about LEO getting their hand on an agency's client list. Even if they can identify the real you, so what. That in itself is not a crime.[/QUOTE]I am not concerned about LEO putting me in jail b / c I am a member of some agency. But, I am concerned about LEO naming me in a sting and / or some hacker bust like what happened with the Ashley Madison hack. The end result isn't as much of an issue as the initial embarrassment. Providing all my personal data to some agency has a high potential of biting me in the ass at sometime.
I get why people do it but the risks are high in my mind.
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[QUOTE=OFCharlie;3049856]Unless you are someone famous like Eliot Spitzer, you really don't have too much to worry about LEO getting their hand on an agency's client list. Even if they can identify the real you, so what. That in itself is not a crime. They have to prove that you actually saw a girl on a given day and more importantly that money changed hand AND a sexual act took place. That is almost impossible. Sure I suppose they can arrest the girl and have her testify against you, but in reality that is highly unlikely. A girl sees a few guys a day. Do you really think she can remember you and all the details that took place? You can very easily discredit her. Finally do you really think Cook County District Attorney is going to spend the resource to go after you on a misdemeanor crime when their have backlogs of murder cases to try?
Some of well known agencies have been around for years. If LEO really wants to go after them, they would have done so already. It's not exactly like they are hiding.
Oh yeah, whatever happened to Heidi Fleiss' client list?[/QUOTE]Respect your points, but there's dif angles to consider:
There's the possib that LEO actions are not about 'justice' (ref: Cook CNTY). If they grabbed an agency girl (as they could do with an Indie) and cut a deal / turned them, they / LEO could collect a string of hobbyists coming in to a SUPPOSED reliable operation-the citations go out and the money rolls in (Crook Cnty Sherrifs ran that type of Volume op. Last year at that Manheim Rd motel).
The other thought --and seems plausible lately -the 'big splash' in an election year. Like those 4 unfortun guys in Naperville a few weeks ago. Waste of city (taxpayer) $$ and resources, but it still got national news coverage. Other than Tommy D, I don't recall any politico's stepping up to claim credit for CLEANING UP their town (s), but maybe that's just implied.
There's no perfect solution (as far as I can see).
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[QUOTE=feckless;3050197]Respect your points, but there's dif angles to consider:
There's the possib that LEO actions are not about 'justice' (ref: Cook CNTY). If they grabbed an agency girl (as they could do with an Indie) and cut a deal / turned them, they / LEO could collect a string of hobbyists coming in to a SUPPOSED reliable operation-the citations go out and the money rolls in (Crook Cnty Sherrifs ran that type of Volume op. Last year at that Manheim Rd motel).
The other thought --and seems plausible lately -the 'big splash' in an election year. Like those 4 unfortun guys in Naperville a few weeks ago. Waste of city (taxpayer) $$ and resources, but it still got national news coverage. Other than Tommy D, I don't recall any politico's stepping up to claim credit for CLEANING UP their town (s), but maybe that's just implied.
There's no perfect solution (as far as I can see).[/QUOTE]Sure, anything is possible, but to me the possibility is remote. To grab an agency girl, they first need to pass the agency's screening. That part is easy, I will give you that. Say they made it in and grabbed the girl, the agency's handler will know something is wrong (girl needs to check in after every appointment) right away and abandon the operation. Let's assume somehow they can convince the girl to turn on the handler, LEO would still need to get their hand on the handler's phone (that is how appts are made). Let's say they were able to do all that, then the next step is to set up the sting which they will need apartment landlord's permission (I don't recall ever reading about a sting in an private apartment). Let's further assume the landlord agrees, all those activities will take time to set up. By then, words would have gotten out as some of those agencies are popular and heavily reported. Also, if you are a repeating customer, all you would have done is made an appointment. You don't ever discuss $ or sexual acts in the text. I will admit I am not an expert in law, but what is the crime for simply making an appointment?
I totally get your concerns, but I like that the odd is in my favor.
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I think to many have the boogie man mentality but to each his own.
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;3050434]Sure, anything is possible, but to me the possibility is remote. To grab an agency girl, they first need to pass the agency's screening. That part is easy, I will give you that. Say they made it in and grabbed the girl, the agency's handler will know something is wrong (girl needs to check in after every appointment) right away and abandon the operation. Let's assume somehow they can convince the girl to turn on the handler, LEO would still need to get their hand on the handler's phone (that is how appts are made). Let's say they were able to do all that, then the next step is to set up the sting which they will need apartment landlord's permission (I don't recall ever reading about a sting in an private apartment). Let's further assume the landlord agrees, all those activities will take time to set up. By then, words would have gotten out as some of those agencies are popular and heavily reported. Also, if you are a repeating customer, all you would have done is made an appointment. You don't ever discuss $ or sexual acts in the text. I will admit I am not an expert in law, but what is the crime for simply making an appointment?
I totally get your concerns, but I like that the odd is in my favor.[/QUOTE]
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Lorena with Michelles
It was my first time using an agency so my expectations might be out of tune with reality. I have been a frequent AMP visitor and backpage user. Backpage and AMPs are so hit and miss that I've been looking for something more reliable and consistent quality. And CoolPatrick arguments not to long ago convinced me to save a little dough and have a better experience.
I booked Lorena with Michelles. Her pictures likely resemble what she looked like 10 years ago and at the height of her attractiveness. She's probably in her late 30's and has put on a few pounds. She's not fat but has a bit of a belly. I'd say a significant enough difference from the pics for me to be justified in leaving but the little head was making the decisions at this point. All natural is true. She was friendly and in an upbeat mood. I obviously don't enjoy girls just going through the motions, which happens a lot at the AMPs so it was nice change to have someone into what they were doing. It almost made up for the difference in the photos. CBJ, ball sucking, all positions, and Greek. Greek isn't my thing but she offered at the start. I'm guessing it's included for everyone but YMMV. Incall was $$ 5.
I wouldn't repeat with Lorena but I'll give the agency another try. She was on time and it was an easy booking. She's not an obvious drug addict. Plus, I am not a member of any verification service (I'm very hesitant to provide so much personal information that will be stored on a database) so I don't have a lot of options with agencies.
I did have a question regarding my experience that I was hoping people could share their thoughts:
I was able to pop twice in the hour. After the first pop we were chatting on the bed and then I was ready to go again. She said that "most girls would leave after the first pop but she was ok with another round. " My assumption going in was that I paid for the hour so I should get to pop as many times as I could in the timeframe. Is that not other peoples thoughts?
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Typo on Cost
[QUOTE=Jameson290;3050854]It was my first time using an agency so my expectations might be out of tune with reality. I have been a frequent AMP visitor and backpage user. Backpage and AMPs are so hit and miss that I've been looking for something more reliable and consistent quality. And CoolPatrick arguments not to long ago convinced me to save a little dough and have a better experience.
I booked Lorena with Michelles. Her pictures likely resemble what she looked like 10 years ago and at the height of her attractiveness. She's probably in her late 30's and has put on a few pounds. She's not fat but has a bit of a belly. I'd say a significant enough difference from the pics for me to be justified in leaving but the little head was making the decisions at this point. All natural is true. She was friendly and in an upbeat mood. I obviously don't enjoy girls just going through the motions, which happens a lot at the AMPs so it was nice change to have someone into what they were doing. It almost made up for the difference in the photos. CBJ, ball sucking, all positions, and Greek. Greek isn't my thing but she offered at the start. I'm guessing it's included for everyone but YMMV. Incall was $$ 5.
I wouldn't repeat with Lorena but I'll give the agency another try. She was on time and it was an easy booking. She's not an obvious drug addict. Plus, I am not a member of any verification service (I'm very hesitant to provide so much personal information that will be stored on a database) so I don't have a lot of options with agencies.
I did have a question regarding my experience that I was hoping people could share their thoughts:
I was able to pop twice in the hour. After the first pop we were chatting on the bed and then I was ready to go again. She said that "most girls would leave after the first pop but she was ok with another round. " My assumption going in was that I paid for the hour so I should get to pop as many times as I could in the timeframe. Is that not other peoples thoughts?[/QUOTE]Sorry missed a $ on my original post. Cost was $$$ . 5.
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[QUOTE=Jameson290;3051252]Sorry missed a $ on my original post. Cost was $$$ . 5.[/QUOTE]For that I would hope you would get as many pops as you could in the time you paid for.
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[QUOTE=Wenger;3051768]For that I would hope you would get as many pops as you could in the time you paid for.
-w.[/QUOTE]She might have been fishing for a tip on top of the $$$ 5 by saying that most girls would only let you go once. I agree that at those rates, you should expect to get MSOG but worth reading their reviews and bios if available to avoid misunderstandings.
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[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;3046726]For those in to spinners but can only afford a bit more than usual.
Marianna Muse is visiting Chicago Aug 28-30 & Ohare Sept 6-8, before and after the long weekend. $300 per hour, I'm not posting her website info nor recycle my juicy details again since these info was in my old post for her last visit. Just posting what I heard from her for those whoa may want to check her out but couldn't yet.[/QUOTE]Have something setup for that timeframe. It'll be my first time with her, can't wait based on the reviews!
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[QUOTE=Indyguy69;3051788]She might have been fishing for a tip on top of the $$$ 5 by saying that most girls would only let you go once. I agree that at those rates, you should expect to get MSOG but worth reading their reviews and bios if available to avoid misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]For me, $$$ 5, msog is a dealbreaker. There are lots of providers out there.
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New format for $?
[QUOTE=Jameson290;3051252]Sorry missed a $ on my original post. Cost was $$$ . 5.[/QUOTE]Sometimes the website itself edits your post on multiple " " You may type six of them, for example, but your post only shows up with two or three. How about 4 $ for 400?
$-100 2 $-200 3 $-300 4 $-400. Multiples of $.
$. 5-150,2 $. 5-250,3 $. 5-350 or is that too complicated?
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Word of advice
[QUOTE=Industrial;3051802]Have something setup for that timeframe. It'll be my first time with her, can't wait based on the reviews![/QUOTE]Remember she likes to lead, given she is really tiny and doesn't want clients hurt or break her.
But she is very professional so she takes direction and request well. So, you should give her a heads up about anything that you specifically hope to achieve, such as trying certain positions, screwing her on places, surfaces, or furniture other than the bed. She will figure out a way to make it happen to please you.
She also likes dirty talk, but it happens very organically, so you can just wait to see if she is in the mood. When she calls you mother fucker, that's your cue to talk dirty back if this is your thing. Say it playfully and see how she responds.
If you want to go for more than twice, just let her know you still have cum to be drained, and she should go down on you again if there is time left on the clock. Once her mouth swallows your cock, then she would not stop because of the clock until you pop.
Finally, she really has a good memory and will remember what you like if you repeat when she is in town. After I did that during the first meeting, Marianna never let me say good bye without sucking me off three times and she always said she remembered how much you can cum for me.
I'm not glorifying her at all and providing the info about how I got what I want from her, and all readers should consider YMMV. My point is to tell readers that, you won't feel spending $300 or $400 as an expensive treat or a waste on some indie providers if they really know what they are doing.
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Nice videos!
[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;3053094]Remember she likes to lead, given she is really tiny and doesn't want clients hurt or break her.
But she is very professional so she takes direction and request well. So, you should give her a heads up about anything that you specifically hope to achieve, such as trying certain positions, screwing her on places, surfaces, or furniture other than the bed. She will figure out a way to make it happen to please you.
She also likes dirty talk, but it happens very organically, so you can just wait to see if she is in the mood. When she calls you mother fucker, that's your cue to talk dirty back if this is your thing. Say it playfully and see how she responds.
If you want to go for more than twice, just let her know you still have cum to be drained, and she should go down on you again if there is time left on the clock. Once her mouth swallows your cock, then she would not stop because of the clock until you pop.
Finally, she really has a good memory and will remember what you like if you repeat when she is in town. After I did that during the first meeting, Marianna never let me say good bye without sucking me off three times and she always said she remembered how much you can cum for me.
I'm not glorifying her at all and providing the info about how I got what I want from her, and all readers should consider YMMV. My point is to tell readers that, you won't feel spending $300 or $400 as an expensive treat or a waste on some indie providers if they really know what they are doing.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed the videos on her website. Very well done! She seems like a pro!
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Lena from PP
[URL]http://anyamay.net[/URL]
This is Lena formerly of Polish Princess. Be warned because her donation has doubled. At that amount I really don't think it's worth it. Even though she was one of my ATF out of that agency.
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[QUOTE=MrCharmo;3052674]Sometimes the website itself edits your post on multiple " " You may type six of them, for example, but your post only shows up with two or three. How about 4 $ for 400?
$-100 2 $-200 3 $-300 4 $-400. Multiples of $.
$. 5-150,2 $. 5-250,3 $. 5-350 or is that too complicated?[/QUOTE]How about $100 = $100, $200 = $200, $300 = $300, $350 = $350 ?