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[QUOTE=Masoko23;4988522]A couple of dude texts me time to time saying you said x why z was bareback and I got declined. I showed the girl the thread to prove her wrong.
This is why I am reluctant to share some escort bare friendly, especially on the high dollar mark.[/QUOTE]That's a special kind of stupid by that guy. SMDH.
Brandy flat out denied BBFS for me. She was in a bad mood. Looked like shit. Now that you mention the stench I am glad. I won't be visiting her again either.
[QUOTE=Chaditcom;4987222]Saw Shelly the other day and was informed by her that she is NOT DOING BBFS anymore with anyone.
FYI-I tried numerous ways but was unsuccessful. Still gives good service.
Saw Brandy as well but was disappointed to say the least. Perhaps we didn't hit it off? BBFS was on the menu for an extra benji. Session was lame and I would not recommend. Pussy had a bit of an odor and her pussy wasn't even clean shaven. Will definitely never see her again but YMMV. I think that she is getting burned out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Masoko23;4988522]A couple of dude texts me time to time saying you said x why z was bareback and I got declined. I showed the girl the thread to prove her wrong.
This is why I am reluctant to share some escort bare friendly, especially on the high dollar mark.[/QUOTE]Seriously what the fuck is wrong with dudes. Stop showing them our sites.
IMO the high dollar ones need to provide that period. Unless they well known or some other legit reason if they charging over 600 shit should be raw optional. Just my 2 cents because out of all the pricey ones I've seen none of them really done anything worth over 600 covered.
Ranked Pornstars on the other hand charging 1000 do tend to perform as expected.
I know what you mean, I've had low post people PM me for intel and I'm like the fuck? Had a few I felt ok maybe I'll help and dude will drop a report for everyone but nope.
On the real though, this is all YMMV and people need to know that.
[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4989274]Seriously what the fuck is wrong with dudes. Stop showing them our sites.
IMO the high dollar ones need to provide that period. Unless they well known or some other legit reason if they charging over 600 shit should be raw optional. Just my 2 cents because out of all the pricey ones I've seen none of them really done anything worth over 600 covered.
Ranked Pornstars on the other hand charging 1000 do tend to perform as expected.
I know what you mean, I've had low post people PM me for intel and I'm like the fuck? Had a few I felt ok maybe I'll help and dude will drop a report for everyone but nope.
On the real though, this is all YMMV and people need to know that.[/QUOTE]EXACTLY! I tell my friends how I go about laying the best scenario out for BBFS.
I wouldn't even consider the person showing the chick a thread an idiot, he was more of like a whiny baby and a SNITCH! He didn't get his way, so he said fuck it, Imma fuck it up for everyone! If the chick isn't offering BBFS and she normally does, it's probably something to do with you. She didn't get a good vibe off you, she thinks you may be dirty, she's having a bad day or maybe she just doesn't want to. Take the L and move the fuck on!
I had one chick who during BBJ keep wiping, etc. Then finally put a condom on and said "too much" (precum). Hot as hell, but spoke Portuguese only and limited English. She actually wasn't even my first choice, but the other chick was dead tired, which I wouldn't want anyway. When we got to the deed I tried to ask for without, but she wasn't having it. Between the condom on a bbj and the no communication because of the language barrier, was a total waste. Came twice because I took viagra for the hell of it, but basically I was just hard because of the pill and wasn't even really into it the second time.
My point is, live and learn. She was a bad fuck for me, so I made sure never to see her again.
[QUOTE=HeroesBlend;4989342]EXACTLY! I tell my friends how I go about laying the best scenario out for BBFS.
I wouldn't even consider the person showing the chick a thread an idiot, he was more of like a whiny baby and a SNITCH! He didn't get his way, so he said fuck it, Imma fuck it up for everyone! If the chick isn't offering BBFS and she normally does, it's probably something to do with you. She didn't get a good vibe off you, she thinks you may be dirty, she's having a bad day or maybe she just doesn't want to. Take the L and move the fuck on!
I had one chick who during BBJ keep wiping, etc. Then finally put a condom on and said "too much" (precum). Hot as hell, but spoke Portuguese only and limited English. She actually wasn't even my first choice, but the other chick was dead tired, which I wouldn't want anyway. When we got to the deed I tried to ask for without, but she wasn't having it. Between the condom on a bbj and the no communication because of the language barrier, was a total waste. Came twice because I took viagra for the hell of it, but basically I was just hard because of the pill and wasn't even really into it the second time.
My point is, live and learn. She was a bad fuck for me, so I made sure never to see her again.[/QUOTE]1. Brandy is BBFS and CIP and still is! (she's always been on the pill), it's YMMV and the sudden influx of lurkers is starting to take a toll on her, also she's playing you stop paying 100 extra. It's only 100 hundred extra because you offered it, you're trying to compensate the odds for a guarantee service.
2. ex. Paige who use to work at Lears (who now works at another agency and does solo) is BBFS and CIP (She is not an extra 100, like I seen some dude on this sub posted, She's on birth control duh). These two are just few of the many. The minute you go in there asking for it instead of letting it happen naturally, you already lost.
3. I'll even throw you Lurkers a bone about someone who isn't even posted here. One provider who comes to Lears occasionally (the people who attends the agency will get the idea) a woman name Skye who is a ebony, thick and has a Asian Tattoo on her Ass cheek is BBFS. She's "always" been BBFS. But she is and I repeat she is YMMV. Now with that info out, when she eventually comes back these scenarios become a possibility.
1) People will take this info as an opportunity, and work their way towards BBFS naturally without upsell.
2) People will ask her upfront like a ass and Possibly get denied (especially if it's your first time seeing her) and then she shuts out "everyone" temporarily until the Heat dies down.
3) People will ask her upfront, she takes advantage of your eagerness and then she upsells. (I've seen someone posted they payed double the Price, for a chick who barely attends Lears.).
4) People will ask her upfront get denied and persist with the 100 dollar tip to increase your odds of getting BBFS.
5) People will ask her upfront get denied and still persist, she gets uncomfortable and insists with the condom, you get irritated, she gets turned off by your vibe, you get a bad session, she gets a bad review, and now we all out here looking like idiots. (then the cycle continues 6 months later).
YMMV= These 5 scenarios (and more) have a chance of happening.
I only go by 1 rule: BBFS is just the icing on the cake.
This is why I stopped posting about who I got bb with because the moment I do someone is going to blab out when they get denied. I had someone from here copy and paste my report and text the provider I had been seeing and flat out texted her for bb instead of just going to her and trying to get her aroused enough she'll just put it in like she did for me.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4989081]Brandy flat out denied BBFS for me. She was in a bad mood. Looked like shit. Now that you mention the stench I am glad. I won't be visiting her again either.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me too. Jay gave me the wrong floor and I went one floor above. On my way up brandy actually opened her door, but she was looking kind of rough so I passed right by not really thinking anything. Got up to the floor Jay gave me. Had the atmosphere of a trap house. I asked the girl who opened the door if she was brandy. She was a white chick, didn't look anything like her so I knew right away that it wasn't her. She tried to make me come in because I guess they knew brandy was working down stairs, telling me that she was brandy. I ditched and went back down to Brandys apt and knocked. Saw that it was her.
The session was lack luster. BBFS wasn't on the table even with an extra Benji. I'm glad I didn't partake because there was a smell coming from her snatch anyway. She was also in one of those moods.
Honestly boys, I think the lears girls are starting to go the way of all the other agencies that fall apart. Probably why jay made that spinoff one recently that's linked on the website.
[QUOTE=JCool1;4989539]1. Brandy is BBFS and CIP and still is! (she's always been on the pill), it's YMMV and the sudden influx of lurkers is starting to take a toll on her, also she's playing you stop paying 100 extra. It's only 100 hundred extra because you offered it, you're trying to compensate the odds for a guarantee service.
2. ex. Paige who use to work at Lears (who now works at another agency and does solo) is BBFS and CIP (She is not an extra 100, like I seen some dude on this sub posted, She's on birth control duh). These two are just few of the many. The minute you go in there asking for it instead of letting it happen naturally, you already lost.
3. I'll even throw you Lurkers a bone about someone who isn't even posted here. One provider who comes to Lears occasionally (the people who attends the agency will get the idea) a woman name Skye who is a ebony, thick and has a Asian Tattoo on her Ass cheek is BBFS. She's "always" been BBFS. But she is and I repeat she is YMMV. Now with that info out, when she eventually comes back these scenarios become a possibility.
1) People will take this info as an opportunity, and work their way towards BBFS naturally without upsell.
2) People will ask her upfront like a ass and Possibly get denied (especially if it's your first time seeing her) and then she shuts out "everyone" temporarily until the Heat dies down.
3) People will ask her upfront, she takes advantage of your eagerness and then she upsells. (I've seen someone posted they payed double the Price, for a chick who barely attends Lears.).
4) People will ask her upfront get denied and persist with the 100 dollar tip to increase your odds of getting BBFS.
5) People will ask her upfront get denied and still persist, she gets uncomfortable and insists with the condom, you get irritated, she gets turned off by your vibe, you get a bad session, she gets a bad review, and now we all out here looking like idiots. (then the cycle continues 6 months later).
YMMV= These 5 scenarios (and more) have a chance of happening.
I only go by 1 rule: bbfs is just the icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]Your rule is the same as mine, bbfs is icing on the cake. Sure I have seen providers that I probably wouldn't have seen otherwise simply because I knew they offered it, but usually if it's someone I'm already interested in seeing and then read that they offer it, it's a bonus, but I do try to get as much info beforehand (if they charge extra, greek etc etc) Otherwise I always play by ear, if she allows me in awesome, if she's down with it but warns there's an extra charge, fine. If she's not into it at all, I don't push it, and hope the session is good regardless (and I have had many cfs sessions as good or better then bbfs) I can not understand why anyone would point a provider to these kinds of threads though, I'm sure if management finds out they'll try to jack the prices even further.
As for shelly and brandy at lear, they were both in the category of warning me with the extra charge, Brandy was a no go on cip for me tho but I already read reviews and got pm's that led me to expect it could go either way anyway. Glad I saw Shelly before she stopped doing the bbfs even if it wasn't the best session, but you win some you lose some.
For real the main problem is whoever thinks it's ok to drop a direct line straight to her review on any of the forums. You can't get it from the girl, drop it and go to another girl or just go with what she's offering.
I'm going to add this as well, your intro will help out and give you an idea of who will offer or not. This works double on girls in the higher end.
If they're asking for references NEVER fucking give them a reference from a girl asking MORE than their rate. Give them a reference from a girl UNDER their price range so they fucking KNOW you have someone else at a more better price that might be better. Personal experience here too, more often than not those girls aren't worth your time either if on the first date they're not "working harder" to impress you. As for extra, the best route is to plan 2 sessions. First session get to know her and if she offers on first date, perfect. Float the idea. If she says no, no second date. Simple as that.
Additional thing to note because this happened to Sway on the Brooklyn side too.
Don't fucking mention our usernames unless we tell you how we want to be identified by the girl. Say some dude you overheard or talking or whatever you can come up with. Ffs don't poison the source.
Just dropped 2 loads in her. She mentioned that Shelly told her about "an online forum" talking about her giving it up bare. Going forward if you're not grandfathered in, it'll be very YMMV if she'll give it up. Thanks to that damned whiny monger.
[QUOTE=Masoko23;4988522]A couple of dude texts me time to time saying you said x why z was bareback and I got declined. I showed the girl the thread to prove her wrong.
This is why I am reluctant to share some escort bare friendly, especially on the high dollar mark.[/QUOTE]Honestly, if they're going to put this site on blast and everyone at risk, we should put them on blast. The idiots who texted you saying they showed the site to providers.
[QUOTE=JCool1;4989539]1. Brandy is BBFS and CIP and still is! (she's always been on the pill), it's YMMV and the sudden influx of lurkers is starting to take a toll on her, also she's playing you stop paying 100 extra. It's only 100 hundred extra because you offered it, you're trying to compensate the odds for a guarantee service.
2. ex. Paige who use to work at Lears (who now works at another agency and does solo) is BBFS and CIP (She is not an extra 100, like I seen some dude on this sub posted, She's on birth control duh). These two are just few of the many. The minute you go in there asking for it instead of letting it happen naturally, you already lost.
3. I'll even throw you Lurkers a bone about someone who isn't even posted here. One provider who comes to Lears occasionally (the people who attends the agency will get the idea) a woman name Skye who is a ebony, thick and has a Asian Tattoo on her Ass cheek is BBFS. She's "always" been BBFS. But she is and I repeat she is YMMV. Now with that info out, when she eventually comes back these scenarios become a possibility.
1) People will take this info as an opportunity, and work their way towards BBFS naturally without upsell.
2) People will ask her upfront like a ass and Possibly get denied (especially if it's your first time seeing her) and then she shuts out "everyone" temporarily until the Heat dies down.
3) People will ask her upfront, she takes advantage of your eagerness and then she upsells. (I've seen someone posted they payed double the Price, for a chick who barely attends Lears.).
4) People will ask her upfront get denied and persist with the 100 dollar tip to increase your odds of getting BBFS.
5) People will ask her upfront get denied and still persist, she gets uncomfortable and insists with the condom, you get irritated, she gets turned off by your vibe, you get a bad session, she gets a bad review, and now we all out here looking like idiots. (then the cycle continues 6 months later).
YMMV= These 5 scenarios (and more) have a chance of happening.
I only go by 1 rule: BBFS is just the icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]I will say, I was tempted to see Brandy, but I will never see her. I paid for a TER premium membership and members who were there a long time, with many reviews all pretty much positive are trashing Brandy saying she's out of it, she's doing the bare minimum, one guy said he came in her mouth and she was fine with it, then he turned to go to the bathroom and she spit it out on his back!! Unless there was some kind of beforehand where she specifically said don't cum in my mouth, I dunno. I'm not a violent person, and I know it's my own cum, but it would take all I had not to.
[QUOTE=JoeIsLive;4990047]Your rule is the same as mine, bbfs is icing on the cake. Sure I have seen providers that I probably wouldn't have seen otherwise simply because I knew they offered it, but usually if it's someone I'm already interested in seeing and then read that they offer it, it's a bonus, but I do try to get as much info beforehand (if they charge extra, greek etc etc) Otherwise I always play by ear, if she allows me in awesome, if she's down with it but warns there's an extra charge, fine. If she's not into it at all, I don't push it, and hope the session is good regardless (and I have had many cfs sessions as good or better then bbfs) I can not understand why anyone would point a provider to these kinds of threads though, I'm sure if management finds out they'll try to jack the prices even further.
As for shelly and brandy at lear, they were both in the category of warning me with the extra charge, Brandy was a no go on cip for me tho but I already read reviews and got pm's that led me to expect it could go either way anyway. Glad I saw Shelly before she stopped doing the bbfs even if it wasn't the best session, but you win some you lose some.[/QUOTE]Years ago I met this provider in LI. We had a steamy session and cover broke. I took it off and proceeded without it. She just said not to CIP. Later I found a lengthy thread about her on one of review sites where someone asked about BBFS and every monger there was confirming how she never does this and even those who claimed to know her for years said she is extra careful because she is a single mom. Whenever those reports were true or not, nobody knows. However the lesson is, nothing is written in stone if provider likes you. But I guarantee you if I had asked her before the session about BBFS it would have never happened.
Providers do what they do for a compensation but at the end of the day theybare still human beings with all the basic needs amd being intimate with someone is one of them. If provider is into you anything may be possible. If she is not into you then you may get less than others. Just like with civilian women.
I rarely ask about BBFS before the session and unless provider is openly avertising / hinting it, it is usually a fail. But quite often I was able to persuade them into BBFS by simply going for it during the session. Being a frequent flyer helps of course but may not be always needed.
[QUOTE=Ericcn;4964251]Gina is returning 9/21. No word on Alexis yet since she is still worried about the virus[/QUOTE]Got a text from Gina a few nights ago, saying her return's delayed until at least October now.
[QUOTE=Tanatloc;4992567]Years ago I met this provider in LI. We had a steamy session and cover broke. I took it off and proceeded without it. She just said not to CIP. Later I found a lengthy thread about her on one of review sites where someone asked about BBFS and every monger there was confirming how she never does this and even those who claimed to know her for years said she is extra careful because she is a single mom. Whenever those reports were true or not, nobody knows. However the lesson is, nothing is written in stone if provider likes you. But I guarantee you if I had asked her before the session about BBFS it would have never happened.
Providers do what they do for a compensation but at the end of the day theybare still human beings with all the basic needs amd being intimate with someone is one of them. If provider is into you anything may be possible. If she is not into you then you may get less than others. Just like with civilian women.
I rarely ask about BBFS before the session and unless provider is openly avertising / hinting it, it is usually a fail. But quite often I was able to persuade them into BBFS by simply going for it during the session. Being a frequent flyer helps of course but may not be always needed.[/QUOTE]I hear you. Unless they are openly advertising like you said or I've read confirmed reviews it is usually a fail for me as well, but I usually try, I find as long as you don't try to jam it in unexpectedly and give the hint that your trying to get in, most chicks will just politely decline if they are not into it, and not make a big deal of it. But that said probably the best bbfs sessions I ever had were always when I wasn't expecting it and the girl initiates it. It's happened at least 3 times and those remain some of my best sessions ever not just for the extra surprise, but because the girls themselves were great anyway and it probably would have been a great session either way. (2 of those girls have been gone for a few years now, one was from Gentlemens Choice / jewels of new york, the other was a girl who was at lears briefly.) The other girl was Baylee who I must have seen her first week because I didn't read any reviews beforehand, just went on the basis of her pics and she became one of my atf's. All three chicks were a case of me wondering if it was a one off thing, but I got it all the time from them and since I never read any other reviews mentioning it (except in Baylees case after the fact) figured it might have been something they rarely do or keep it very much on the down low, so in those cases I try not to blow up spots, but then again those earlier cases were from a few years before I started posting on boards anyway.