Drew Angie, seems young but you know how Asians are. Only downside everything covered thou she has good technique. House plus 1. 5, asked for 2.
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Drew Angie, seems young but you know how Asians are. Only downside everything covered thou she has good technique. House plus 1. 5, asked for 2.
[QUOTE=Trumpeter;7031371]I would also include the four along Cornell between Saltzman and Murray. At least two of them are consistent FS.[/QUOTE]Which ones exactly?
[QUOTE=WestSidePunter;7031222]CNE.
87th & Canyon (not sure what they're actually called).
Lucky.
Rose.
Blue Rose.
Asian flower.
New Asian Flower.
Oriental pearl.
Nine.
There are more. New Asian Flower and Nine would be considered Aloha, but still. Add in Tigard, and you add another 3 or 4.[/QUOTE]Asian flower tried both & the one on Hartman is the main one I went to between both. The one was a bad experience & women was pushy on tips & shorted me on a 30 minute massage by 15 or so minutes & the massage was MID asf. Only went once & never went back & that was last yr around November or so, so perhaps it's changed & wanted to ask you or others cause I had no offers of extras or FS. As for the Hartman location only HJ, CBJ, breast play with touching & sucking them & one chick I believe her name was Apple allowed me to play with her clit, plus fingering but no FS / penetration for any of the girls & I been there a lot over last yr up until probably early January when one girl I liked left to NY. I'm curious about which girls have you FS etc cause that was not my experience. The other ones I'll have to try I know Oriental pearl does cause I was offered by a late to mid 40's woman which I declined. Thanks for the review. I live in Beaverton so definitely trying to get more info on ones that offer FS that way I don't have to go to Portland (can't stand Portland) or Vancouver etc which is far for me. Trying to get info on Beaverton, Hillsboro, aloha & close areas to them.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7204499]Sup fellas, so I must say the reports on Candy mostly seem to be solid or accurate other than the price which most said 2 bills for everything. However, for me I was looking at $270 which is okay either way factoring in tips etc. Anyway, I had the choice between Vivi, MoMo & Lisa. The shop sent me photos of the girls which appeared to be slightly enhanced. However, MoMo actually did look like the captured photo they sent me in person. I'll likely go back for MoMo to clap her cheeks & what not. However, I ain't into fare skin women. I prefer chicks with tanned / darker skin just my preference but poonani is poonani & if the broad is a 6 & up in looks she can get the D.
Moreover, I am not one of them cats that's into fake breastacies personally. Aesthetically, sure it looks good in clothes but when a broad gets naked & the feel of that shit esp if her body ain't proportional to the titty meat she has than it looks unattractive to me personally. I ain't trying to feel hard tits either & prefer natural broads in general. That's just my perspective. For ya'll who do cool, do you 👍127997;.
Anyway, I slightly digressed so yeah. I went recently after confirming via text of how busy it was & if Lisa was available. So I arrived & I was dressed fresh with my dope sneakers, smelling good & overall looking like the stud muffin I am (I'm confident in my shit & self validated so belief in yourself fellas is vital cause broads can sense that shit off rip so ALWAYS maintain confidence in yourself even if you're not as physically attractive or in shape as you'd like to be. Confidence goes a long way fellas & enhances the overall experience with chicks.) So I arrived & the area is interesting being it's off the main road at the location. I've seen mostly older dudes LOL coming & going which was interesting, but shit everybody got to eat you feel me. Everybody needs poonani from time to time, is what it is LOL. They had a camera on their door & curtains etc to the windows. I entered & Lisa & MoMo & the older lady likely owner of the shop met me when I entered. Before I can even take off my coat lmao 🤣 Lisa & MoMo was feelin up on me & complimenting my looks overall & both were grabbing my Johnson & ass LOL 😂 I'm like damn LOL 😂 hahaha shit it's really like that than? Hmm 🤔.
But anyway, both Lisa & MoMo lead me back. Although, I was there for Lisa, MoMo was really feeling me LOL. Very handsy & kissing me & shit on my lips & face while grabbing my Johnson. Both were kinda competing for my attention LOL 😂 shit was funny to me but also cool. Lisa in looks to me is a 7. Nice solid body with B to small C cup breastasies. Nice tan & nice hair. Pretty face & nice medium sized lips which I like on women. MoMo facially was solid about a 6-7 as well but not much of an ass & big fake breastasies, about a D or so in cup size & long legs, big eyes. At this pt MoMo sat on my lap & Lisa LOL was kissing my neck & rubbing me LOL 😂 I'm like shit aye man this king shit I'm with it LOL. Anyway, at some pt I waited in a little side room for like 5 minutes. Lisa got done up for me before I got a massage by her. She wore sexy black lingerie which her breastasies looking super perky & nice & her hair done nicely & at this pt my Johnson was erected end to end LOL & she noticed that cause the champ is packing PAUSE but just being real with it. Idgas if cats believe my report. I'm not here to convince people. I'm self validated so ya'll can take it or leave it but I have no reason to lie about shit & if any of ya'll ever met me in person with my upbringing & all I have zero tolerance for BS & I have no fake bone in my body so I'm a realist overall so I keep it a stack 💯 only way I do life.
So Lisa proceeds to make out with me & was really into me LOL & overall the experience. Stroking my Johnson through my pants & all & kept complimenting me saying how big I was & she was moaning in my ear & licking it. She's a little hottie for sure. So she undressed me & as my clothes are being removed she's kissing & licking my body LOL from head to feet & I'm like shit LOL this broad is really feeling me LOL. Ngl, this was by far my best experience other than at Kai Yuan in Hillsboro my second favorite place which I highly recommend fellas. Anyway, Candy I will say lives up to reviews & it's reputation which I thought was 🧢 ngl, but to my surprise the reviews her are mostly on pt. Furthermore, Lisa in her broken English was telling me I want Boom boom with you honey LOL 😂. "Boom," "Boom," seems to be the code for sex LOL amongst these AMP's LOL 😂 that term sounds goofy & funny but whatever. So we was fucking around before the massage in terms of some four play & all which I got an hour & she said $270 for everything I said cool. I only had $220 but I cash app her $50 so that's cool cause most try to charge $300 or more & if she charged $300 I would of still went through with it but I won't go pass that unless the broad is a 9-10.
Anyway, I'm highly skilled with my hands & overall sex game. The broad busted before I can ever put my Johnson in her LOL 3 times. She hella moist for me like I can smell her & see her dripping LOL & glistening through her lingerie. She's a squirter LOL. Her shit got all over my hand & fingers as I was stimulating her poonani lips & clit plus touching her sensually & nibbling on her ear a little while telling her I'm going to dominant her. She was hella turned on. She asked me if I wanted to fuck right than & there than get the massage or get the massage than fuck after. I chose the massage to keep her anticipation built up. Women are like a thermometer. You got to build up the temp till that shit overheats & is hot than boom she BUSTING with the quickness. Anyway, so as I'm getting a massage she is rubbing her body against my & her hips hella erected LOL 😂 and she was moaning nonstop & shaky cause she was horny asf for me.
Lisa, as she got on the table & rubbed her body up against mine, I felt her pussy Juices dripping all over my body LOL 😂 her massage was decent & not shitty so it wasn't bad so I got a full body massage for 30 plus minutes. There is a massage table to the left of a bed LOL. Massage table was comfortable & the bed. The shop was built like a house LOL so it was cool. So after the massage, Lisa grabbed my Johnson while using her other hand to rub my balls & kelt remarking of how big I was & all & she lead me to the bed. I got my condom out of my jacket near the bed. While I was doing that she started to forcefully give me fellatio & choke on my Johnson which was hot asf. Her little pretty mouth couldn't take it but she really was trying to not scratch me with her teeth but yeah 👍127997; she was a trooper. I'm packing so yeah I likely rearranged her jaw a little LOL 😂 is what it is. So she went HAM on my shit for a good 6 minutes without stopping. I like broads who like love to give head.
Lisa was really into giving me head & kept moaning & drooling on my shit as it was a sloppy BJ which I love who wouldn't right? So yeah she was just saying OMG honey I love your cock all that shit & what not. While she was blowing me I told her to turn sideways so I can reach her poonani / clit so I can pleasure her as well while she's blowing me cause I get hard off of getting a chick off with foreplay. She busted twice again so at this pt we at 5 times she busted or 4 times or so before I even put my Johnson in her. Her legs quivered on the last one & I was really into that shit. So she was breathing heavy LOL & she laid in missionary ready for me to fuck her. I took my time purposely to get my condom & put it on LOL which built up her anticipation even more so she rushed me LOL just like I wanted & than she got the condom for me & pushed me onto the bed & used her mouth to put on the condom.
After the condom was on, she got into missionary. I than stood up & grabbed her by the legs & pulled her forcefully towards me which turned her on. I than kissed her body & sucked on her tits while rubbing my head on her clit in circular motions which made her bust again & she squirted all over my belly & mid section LOL 😂 shit was messy but I wouldn't have it any other way. The broad came at least 10 times swear on my life. After teasing her & building up the anticipation I made her beg for my Johnson to put it in her as she told me honey give me your cock I want your big cock in me now. My shit was hard end to end & I teased her again LOL by acting like I was going to put it in & put it slightly in as she moaned loud LOL & once that was let out I put my Johnson fully in & proceeded to fuck the shit out of this little *****.
I hit that shit for a good 16-19 minutes without busting cause I have good stamina & technique on not to prematurely bust. So yeah I took her legs nibbled on her right leg when I had her legs up on my shoulders to an inverted missionary position while I was hitting it deep & she busted in 47 secs LOL 😂 my Johnson came out cause she squirted again & was like OMG honey so fucking good ahh type of shit. Honey must be they thing LOL cause they say that a lot LOL 😂 anyway so I destroyed her on the bed, picked her up in missionary & fucked the shit out of her while she held onto my neck to balance & came again. I than moved over to the massage table across the bed & fucked her in doggy where she was at the edge of the massage table.
I than stood her up & fucked her in standing doggy. And we went from place to place, position to position. I was on pt during this session. So we finished up fucking cause she wanted to get me off & make me bust so I took off the condom & she got on her knees & she gave me hardcore head & jerked me & than after I went to bed laid down & she tried to make me cream, but got tired LOL & she was like cum for me honey I want your load in my mouth so I jerked off & sucked on her tits until I was about to bust she puts her mouth on my Johnson & I cream inside of her mouth & that shit dripped from her mouth tab she cleaned me up nicely with her mouth & wiped me down. Only thing is I need to tell the shops that I'm going to clean my shit cause the body wipes make your shit sting so I'm not with that LOL.
Anyway, she laid next to me & was exhausted & breathing heavily & was like OMG honey you're so good I love your big cock you make me feel amazing type of shit. She made out with me & said please come again. She said I lasted longer than most guys. She was smiling ear to ear & all & was very pleased. She helped me get dressed & then left the room to get me water & a towel to wipe my sweat. This chick LOL wiped my sweat off of me LOL giving me king treatment LOL & opened my bottle of water for me & feed me water LOL 😂 I'm like shit man that post nut clarity for her LOL cause she was in heaven LOL 😂 but yeah. So I go to the restroom to take a piss after getting dressed & freshened up a little & used some cologne I had in my jacket then I came out & MoMo gives me a hug & starts kissing up on me & her & Lisa talking in mandarin about me & Momo holding me impeding my progress to leave LOL 😂 I'm like damn LOL & kissing me & feeling up on me & all. I had enough stamina to go another round fellas LOL but I'm like shit after 16-19 minutes needed a little breather like 5 min break LOL than go again but I'm like I have some place to be LOL.
So MoMo attached to me was like honey you must come see me next time. Grabbing my Johnson & ass & kissing me on lips & neck. They complimented my hair as well cause like I have a spikey mini fro like a burst fade. Yall brothas on this thread & cats who know what that is know what I'm talking about for the cut & how it looks but yeah. It was a great experience & my favorite so far. Definitely will go back for MoMo shit maybe Lisa again for my bday, but we'll see. Definitely a place on reviews that lived up to its reputation. Highly recommend fellas.[/QUOTE]Hey can you do a review on that place in Hillsboro? KAI YUAN. Thanks for the review.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7205854]Which ones exactly?[/QUOTE]Lucky Foot and Nice Spa.
[QUOTE=BillJ1984;7206769]Hey can you do a review on that place in Hillsboro? KAI YUAN. Thanks for the review.[/QUOTE]Sure. So that's been one of my main go to spots. Some of the girls that I like left to New York and probably won't return but yeah. So they do offer covered BJ, licking of balls bare, hand job till completion, boob play rather sucking on, licking, touching etc. No boom boom. The beds are not as comfortable as I'd like especially the head part. The area is busy and is not far from police station. It's best to go early in morning to as late as 3 pm or so right before folks get off work etc. Kai Yuan is very popular so make sure to connect with the girls you like & get their cell & ask them their availability etc as I have done.
They have solid variety & the only one that I've came across that actually massages decent to good imo is Jieny. She's a total sweetheart & has Girlfriend experience & is very upbeat. She's not a good kisser LOL or tongue which ain't my thing as much. Looks wise she's about a 6. Big tits but they're a little droopy so yeah. Head game is solid as well & she's a loud moaner LOL.
They rotate girls between that shop & Asian flower spa so it's difficult for me to tell you which girls are good etc esp when some left to New York but I do like, Bella, Amy, Apple, Jieny, Gianna & all are between 6-7's in looks etc & some fake boobs like Bella but she in NY now to my knowledge. They're friendly & if you build rapport with them they will go the extra mile to tell you where they're working & their availability etc plus if they're attracted to you they will act like your girlfriends LOL & text you when you're not getting a massage & perhaps may do some extra shit that isn't allowed like uncovered BJ & perhaps offer Full service but it's rare & their boss is on they ass on things so yeah unlikely boom boom.
Some dress you up and all that if they like you & have great customer service. You're looking at $230-260 or so in regards to extra service plus hr massage which is $70. Girls do have Venmo, cash app etc & they do take card but prefer cash. Their card fee is I believe $3. They have their restroom to the right of the shop when you enter the bedding areas. Room temp is relatively comfortable. They have approximately 4-5 or 6 tops girls working often so not much distraction with them going in & out from my experience, but that could potentially vary given they rotate these girls every month between Kai yuan & Asian flower spa. The area is surrounded by food joints & the food carts is good & plentiful of options of different variety of ethnic foods which is approximately 5-7 blocks down from Kai Yuan so if you bust a nut LOL and get hungry after you'll have plenty of food options around you plus grocery outlet to use their ATM which is across the street.
The entrance is a back alley and a little conspicuous but yeah LOL anyway, it's one of my favorites here in the Hillsboro area. You can kinda negotiate with the girls but you do risk a chance of them not favoring you next time etc. From my experience, they were not pushy on tips and often let you set the amount extras. Some would take $100 so it be $170 & others $150-200 which at other shops you can full service for $200-$280 so that's one thing I will say about Kai yuan that's a negative is they charge a little high on extras minus sex but the girls most of them are good looking 6's-7's plus got good head game etc so yeah. They have variety in body type from petite to medium to more meat on the bone etc. The vibe is chill I like it & they offer you water after as well. Most of them are very upbeat & have GFE type of vibe so I recommend for sure. The shop does respond to text and tells you who is working & age group which you're looking at between 26-36 or so. Any other Qs you have you can ask or just DM me. Hope this helps. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Trumpeter;7206978]Lucky Foot and Nice Spa.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I appreciate your reviews bro. They've been very helpful.
[QUOTE=Trumpeter;7204767]I decided I wanted to find an attractive provider for my next massage. I know that means many different things to different people. For me, I don't care about the age, although the more attractive are often younger, but not always. It also means a pretty face and a slim body. I live on the West side and did some recon looking for someone. Here are some I checked out: Green Touch, Red Rose on Saltzman, Lucky Foot on Cornell, Nice Spa, Murray Massage, Nine Spa, New Asian Flower Spa on TV Hwy, Fang, Shangri-La, Red Rose on 2nd, Homeport 1, Eastern Spa, Blue Rose, CNE, Sunny Spa, Super Spa, and Hong Kong.
Then, I headed to the east side to check out a few, with my target being Candy based on the recent great reviews. My stops here were Sakura, Love, Sisters, Sweet Dream, Blue Sky, Blue Moon on Division, Palace, Aurora, Azure, and finally, I went to Candy.[/QUOTE]Great job on the recon. I always advocate being ready to leave immediately if you don't see what you like.
You can always ask them "where are the girls in the ads?" and they will say they're not working right now. So tell them you'll check back later to see if the girls in the ads are working.
[QUOTE=Joepdx;7207141]Great job on the recon. I always advocate being ready to leave immediately if you don't see what you like.
You can always ask them "where are the girls in the ads?" and they will say they're not working right now. So tell them you'll check back later to see if the girls in the ads are working.[/QUOTE]If I'm not liking what I see, I will just ask for a name I know is not there and then say "I'm looking for * so I must have the wrong place" and walk out. Just another idea.
[QUOTE=SevenInchToy;7207257]If I'm not liking what I see, I will just ask for a name I know is not there and then say "I'm looking for * so I must have the wrong place" and walk out. Just another idea.[/QUOTE]I also use this excuse often but sometimes you can tell the girls know you are BSing if they are regulars there for a long time. Like if I want to leave I'll say I was hoping my friend Coco was working today, maybe ill come back when she is here. If they have been there for a while all day everyday, they know there aint no Coco haha. Or I some of them will play along and said oh I am Coco. HahaIll respond with no its a different coco, my friend I always see here. Haha.
But then who cares, I just shrug my shoulders and leave.
I just tell them the truth, that I'm shopping for a massage and there are a couple of other places I want to check, but I might be back. They're always surprised when I do come back.
[QUOTE=SevenInchToy;7207257]If I'm not liking what I see, I will just ask for a name I know is not there and then say "I'm looking for * so I must have the wrong place" and walk out. Just another idea.[/QUOTE]
Sup fellas,
I wanted to get FS within the Beaverton / Hillsboro area. Candy & going back for MoMo per my last review is intriguing cause I know FS plus how she looks & all, although I clapped Lisa's cheeks last time LOL & it was magnificent LOL, I know MoMo LOL would be great too. However, I'm a city man kinda person from LA born & raised. I take public transportation so I ain't trying to go there from Tanasbourne area as it takes up to 1. 5 hrs to about near 2 hrs.
I'm trying to stay local. I've seen old reviews up to a yr ago I do from 1st to the 100th page, but I need recent intel on places in these areas at least a month before up to now. Anyway, I'll share the places on my list & I'll ask ya'll if it's FS cause that's what I want. I don't want to go into shops to only get BJ, HJ. I want to do a AMP chick no question. So by me traveling via public transportation or using my electric scooter if it's 30-45 minutes away from my pad, I ain't trying to waste my time. My budget is strictly $260 which candy I paid $270 which ain't bad either. Would prefer lower of course but yeah. I plan on going today or Friday tomorrow so I'm hoping to hear from anyone who has experience with the shops I'm about to list & if they're full service plus info on the masseuses there at the shops listed as I definitely want to smash a 7 preferably and at least a 6 at minimum that's in their 20's to mid 30's.
Shops I'm looking at trying for FS:
1. Oriental Pearl Spa (Beaverton) tried it before I know they offer FS. Got a massage by an older lady in her late 40's. She tried to convince me for FS & asked for $300. No matter the price even reduced LOL I wouldn't have smashed LOL. The owner & her was pushy on tips & kinda rude so I lost interest going back but heard about this Angela chick so I'm curious but I'm not into fake breasts & I'm into natural aspects of a woman's body, just my preference. My issue last time I went was mediocre massage plus interruptions. I want to go to a shop where I won't be interrupted from getting my massage to smashing the masseuse LOL. It's down the street from me so a scooter ride would be 5-7 minutes approximately. I'm hesitant plus also heard Angela can rush & I'm not trying to rush either. At candy I went over time by 17 minutes no extra charge & she was into it greatly. I don't want to smash a chick who ain't into either.
2. Blue Rose Spa (Beaverton).
3. Sunshine spa (Hillsboro) by hospital: Tried to go there multiple times. Claimed they were busy & only had one girl there working so I can see when people come in during your massage she will have to leave to answer the door. Hate when places don't have a dedicated receptionist like how places like Aloha massage does (my favorite to get just a massage highly highly recommend if you just want a great to excellent full body massage.).
4. Lan Lan Spa (Hillsboro).
5. Red Rose on 2nd street (Beaverton) went there few weeks back to check it out being I had a haircut & was 15 minutes early so I checked it out. An older lady with a nice rack & solid thickness to her body who appeared to be in her late 40's with a short dress & her breasts popping out was there. I didn't find her attractive enough to smash so when she greeted me I said I'm just looking. If any younger women are there I'd go especially if they offer FS. My holistic place is there so perhaps I can just skip massage & get FS than go get chiropractor work plus stem warm pack etc there but yeah I'm open to it but if she's there naw. She was the only one who was last time I went. I'd be open to trying the one on Saltzman as well if they have FS & younger women between 21-35 etc.
6. Lucky Foot spa (Cornell / Beaverton).
7. Zen foot massage (Beaverton).
8. Super massage (Beaverton).
9. New Asian Flower Spa on TV HWY: last time I went I got shorted by 15 minutes for a 30 min massage plus pushy on tips & massage was mediocre & only HJ, CBJ was offered & I declined. Never went back after but heard or seen reviews that they have younger women now plus some offer FS so I'd be down to try it again.
10. Eastern Spa: (Beaverton).
11. Blue rose spa (Beaverton).
12. Nine Spa.
13. Nice spa.
14. Oriental foot massage: went there once & smashed a 6 Asian chick name Tia I believe she had a tight poonani & squeezed her shit on my cock when I was destroying her from behind. She's alright but wouldn't go back again for her but considering going back for another chick if y'all know others who been there recently within a month or so up to now.
Alternatives I'll consider despite in Portland for FS.
1. Candy massage: It's for sure FS & MoMo definitely wants me to come back & smash her per what she said & done LOL although I was there for Lisa per my last recent review on my candy experience. I definitely will at some point go back for her. Maybe in two weeks during my bday week but we'll see maybe this time but I want to stay local preferably.
2. Love spa (Portland) heard a lot of good things about this one on reviews & be open to it but as I said trying to stay local but depending on reviews that are recent within a month up to now from ya'll I'd be willing to go today or on Friday tmr for FS.
3. Sunny Spa (87th ave in Portland).
4. Everyday Spa (NE Halsey) heard about this place a lot too so if I don't check it out now I'd check it out in near future.
I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone or multiple folks can provide me with details, name of women they got a massage by & FS from etc within a month up to now. Again, my budget is $260 total with getting an hr massage plus Full service to smash. I prefer a chick between 21-35 with B cup to C cup preferably real tits, solid head game, ass be good too cause I'm an ass guy but most Asian women don't got it so yeah. Preferably a chick who like to smash & won't be robotic about it or mechanical. Like I said, I want to go get some poonani today or tomorrow with at a place where customer service is solid & the chick is a 6-7 preferably 7 where $260 tops or lower gets me to home plate on FS including cost of hr massage plus FS at $260. I ain't trying to negotiate price & not budging on higher so it's $260 for FS with hr massage or less or a hard no & I'm out. I want to text these places & ask them straight up before going & not waste my time, but they'd get suspicious & won't answer on price pt for FS & some places I texted show me pics of the girls too which is nice which some of these on the list like half or a little less than half showed me pics of the girls.
Whatever place I go to from these today or tmr Friday I'm going to be transparent up front before I even pay for the massage with the masseuse and say I want an hr massage & boom boom. I may not even say the price cause if I let them know I got $260 they will say that but it be great to get an hr massage plus boom boom for less then $260. Reviews I seen said $200 LOL which I personally never experienced at these AMP's. Generally I did go from $220 lowest between $300 but mostly in the $240-60 range from my experience. Anyway, I'm a little tight on funds with rent coming up & essential bills & all I got is $260 that I am willing to play with so I'm trying to find the for sure thing on FS, a solid to decent massage plus other attributes I listed. Can y'all give me the HBO special by Helping a fellow AMP monger out? Greatly appreciate in advance.
Been at this a few months. Got a lot of info from this board so I thought I would share. Obviously with the rotation thing may not be up to date. But here goes. I'll try and keep things simple.
Sunny Foot Massage:
Standard ending, I should have known when I walked in there was not much else on the table. Tried to charge FS price for HE. I won't be back.
LanLan:
Got FS. But it got interrupted by some boomer and there is only one girl there. And definitely not hot enough to get me going again after the interruption. I did go again, because I'm an idiot.
Nice on Joy:
Got a tight little spinner who is not there anymore. FS, and knew how to finish me off quick. A little too quick.
Oriental Pearl:
A few pages back someone mentioned the whole scene being disturbed by someone trying to buy a gift card. I was there too. Didn't get Angela. But some other older woman. We had a good time. FS. With BBBJ finish.
Moon Spa on TV HWY:
Terrible. Shitty massage with standard ending. With the caveat that I've never been jerked off so bad in my life. Also location is pretty fucking weird.
LanLan:
Similar experience. FS, but ended up finishing with CBJ. Same broad. I'm stupid.
Sunshine in Hillsboro:
Decent massage. HE was offered only. I declined.
Evergreen:
Amazing massage. No services offered except self service.
Nice on Joy:
New girl. She was alright, but not what I was looking for. FS fun was had, but it was just. Ok. That and she had more Bush than I would prefer. Great tits though.
Nice on Joy:
So this day I planned on trying to get Angela at Oriental Pearl. She was busy and said come back in 2 hours. That rack looked good but I was on a mission. So I went to Nice, but was only going to stay if candy was available. She was. An hour of massage and FS with all the fixings was provided. Worth it.
FWIW. Based on these forums I have only ever offered up a max of $$ for and hour.
[QUOTE=Elgato99;7210034]Been at this a few months. Got a lot of info from this board so I thought I would share. Obviously with the rotation thing may not be up to date. But here goes. I'll try and keep things simple.
Sunny Foot Massage:
Standard ending, I should have known when I walked in there was not much else on the table. Tried to charge FS price for HE. I won't be back.
LanLan:
Got FS. But it got interrupted by some boomer and there is only one girl there. And definitely not hot enough to get me going again after the interruption. I did go again, because I'm an idiot.
Nice on Joy:
Got a tight little spinner who is not there anymore. FS, and knew how to finish me off quick. A little too quick.
Oriental Pearl:
A few pages back someone mentioned the whole scene being disturbed by someone trying to buy a gift card. I was there too. Didn't get Angela. But some other older woman. We had a good time. FS. With BBBJ finish.
Moon Spa on TV HWY:
Terrible. Shitty massage with standard ending. With the caveat that I've never been jerked off so bad in my life. Also location is pretty fucking weird.
LanLan:
Similar experience. FS, but ended up finishing with CBJ. Same broad. I'm stupid.
Sunshine in Hillsboro:
Decent massage. HE was offered only. I declined.
Evergreen:
Amazing massage. No services offered except self service.
Nice on Joy:
New girl. She was alright, but not what I was looking for. FS fun was had, but it was just. Ok. That and she had more Bush than I would prefer. Great tits though.
Nice on Joy:
So this day I planned on trying to get Angela at Oriental Pearl. She was busy and said come back in 2 hours. That rack looked good but I was on a mission. So I went to Nice, but was only going to stay if candy was available. She was. An hour of massage and FS with all the fixings was provided. Worth it.
FWIW. Based on these forums I have only ever offered up a max of $$ for and hour.[/QUOTE]First off THANK YOU very much for responding & adding value to my AMP & saving me time. So I went to Nice Spa & got some chick named Eengie. My coworker said she massaged above avg & also was a good fuck, had nice natural boobs etc. I must of got her on a bad day cause his review of her LOL was not accurate & I wish I got candy instead to be honest, because she has a much better body. More on her after I get into Eengie literally & figuratively speaking LOL.
Anyway, Eengie is a mid to late 30's pretty chick with C to possibly D cup natural tits. Not much of an ass. She's about a 6 although my coworker who seen her remarked lmao that she's a 7 among other good aspects of her. I was not impressed to say the least on the FS part. Her massage was solid & worth it & tbh I actually enjoyed that more LOL. She kept complaining I was Too big for her & that she liked small dicks LOL which turned me off tbh. She also haggled me for more money when I brought $260 as my guy D said when he went that he paid a total of about $230 for 30 min massage plus boom boom. She wanted to charge me like $50 LOL for a covered BJ & wanted more than $260. I'm telling her lady you lost your damn mind LOL for a covered BJ & you short changing my massage when I paid for an hr & all you Gave me was 30 minutes. She had to cut my shit short, because one of her regulars was in smh.
A total of two distractions including one of her regulars coming in. She was trying to rush me asking me if I came yet while I was fucking her. Her head game was lack luster. I've had much better CBJ's at Kai yuan for example with one chick I use to see on a regular until she started texting me being goofy & not answering my Q on getting boom boom from her LOL so unlikely I see her for a bit but I digress. Anyway, I'm fucking her going ape shit on that poonani & she's moaning & came 4 times but kept trying to push me out of her till the point where she didn't want my full cock in her do that made it weird so I went slower. I wanted to hit the back of that wall LOL & make the broad squirt like I did Lisa several times at Candy massage.
Eengie I won't ever see again. Sex was not good & I could have got better. My guy D must of got her on a good day cause she was robotic, bitchy, pushy on more money for lack luster FS. Massage though was worth $70 for hr but didn't get it. She was attracted to me, but was bitchy about my dick size & did not show enthusiasm during FS fun so it made my experience with her lame. Anyway, she starts to leave & I'm like Ayo, I got another 30 minutes left for massage. Either I get my money back or some of it or someone else comes in & finishes the part Eengie should have. She can see I was visibly annoyed so she called candy to come take care of me.
Candy comes in. Candy is probably in her 40's. I'm usually not into older women as much but I do like some. Candy is a straight MILF. She's a solid 6. Great body, great little sexy ass, nice pussy etc & a freak & **** the way I like it. I should have got her smh but oh well learning lesson. My coworker D was way off LOL on his review at least for me based on my experience with her. So yeah, Candy had braded hair, C cup tits nice & upward probably fake but couldn't tell as much. She showed me her ass & sexy underwear I got hard instantly again LOL & she started to jerk me off smoothly. At this pt I'm pissed LOL cause I'm like fuck. Why didn't I get her? She would have been a great fuck for me. She can see I was perplexed & annoyed & she asked me what's wrong & I'm straight forward & speak my mind so I told her I should have got you for my massage. I told her I only got $260. I cannot pay any additional amount & I'm owed another 30 minutes your coworker didn't finish.
Candy was sweet about it as her name suggests & said don't worry babe, I'll take care of you no charge. I'm like oh shit. We didn't fuck but foreplay action. She was teasing me & allowing me to touch her breasts, her ass & finger her plus stimulate her click & before that fun she was hella moist cause she came into the room already into me & was completely opposite of Eengie. She liked how big my dick was and said she wanted me to fuck her & if I had the money on me I would have to be honest. Candy, by far is the hottest MILF I've seen at an AMP up to now.
She massaged me on the flip but a lot of stroking of my cock, kissing it, tracing her lips on my cock & a little lick action& light blowing. I was able to easily get her to come about 4 times with my hands as I am very skilled with foreplay. Anyway, she was into it & had to stop herself from fucking me cause she wanted to but I told her I ain't got the mullah on me but yeah she was kissing up on my body & I nibbled on her neck & ear lobes while I was playing with her clit as she was standing up leaned over. I had much more of a better experience with candy than Eengie & I didn't even fuck her. Candy tried to jerk me off till completion but I told her it'll be a while cause I just fucked her coworker LOL but she persisted a little. I didn't come again & was satisfied with candy. She finished up massaging me on the flip, and offered to give me $30-40 back. I said naw you can keep it. She said next time you come I want you to fuck me good while she was holding my dick in her hand & she kissed me LOL. I grabbed her nice little ass while holding her looking down as her I said I'll take care of you & I'll be bricked end to end for you. She smiled & giggled a little & was turned on.
All in all nice spa was solid I'd go back again but for candy & she's an exception. I don't mind older women but prefer younger but she's definitely hot asf as a very solid 6 in the face but her body is an 8. She's fit, feminine, sexy, sexy little ass I definitely I'm going to fuck the living shit out of her LOL like I did Lisa at candy who I made came non penetrating 4 times & penetrating 6 times, a total of 10 times. Lasted near 20 minutes cause she & I was into it & I believe candy & I will have that chemistry or similar. I don't recommend Eengie fellas. My coworker LOL lead me down wrong path but fuck it glad he had fun I take blame, and it's on me & least it lead me to candy so whatever. I will be going back & recommend it as they're on alert with camera system & keeping tabs on it plus postage signs of notices to suggest they don't do illegal stuff LOL in case cops come in etc LOL.
I'll be going for my bday week in mid March & will hit her up & maybe candy massage again for Momo than another one off the list or other suggestions. Trying to stay local but wouldn't mind Portland. Anyway thanks for your review & I hope my helps others. They say the best teacher is experience. Well I say the even better teacher is someone else's experience, as it'll save you time & money. Stay safe out there fellas & have fun responsibly. Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn & I learned about Eengie, but won with Candy.
Gentleman, a friendly reminder that you don't need to pay more, and if you do, you are encouraging them to expect more, and keep asking for higher prices. Two examples that come to mind are Candy on Holgate and Love on Powell.
I have been to many many AMPs in the Portland metro area.
I continue to get an hour of massage and boom boom for 200, half hour 170.
As another gentleman said, if you get push back, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Don't hesitate to walk away if a girl gives you a GPS attitude. If one place says no, the next place will say yes.
Pretty much sums it up. I too am stupid and revisit occasionally. I have found if I had a bad experience, I wait 3 months for the rotation to occur and it can be totally different. That said. Evergreen has always been more legit and self service. The others are hit and miss Oriental pearl is pretty consistent and good The place next to Dr Feelgoods on TV can be fun but the Mammason does not want a lot of noise. So keep it down when extras are occurring. Usually its just roaming and a HJ but one never knows Depends on the desperateness of the girl working.
As I am in the Hillsburrito area later in the evening. I often rotate between these places listed Sunny always has fugly older girls so I have stopped going there a couple of years ago. Occasionally I stop in but always see grannies.
So many places so little time. Money is not the issue but I still like value for my bang for the buck. I also never pay more than 200 usually its 100 over the house fee for FS. So not too bad in my opinion. Cheaper then renting a hotel and a GPS girl who might be who knows how hygienically clean. One thing about these Oriental girls. They tend to be super clean. Nice smelling sweet most of the time and have some of the cutest VJs around. Nice and delicate. Not all beat up like some hos off the street.
I've been watching these threads for a couple years now. And all of a sudden people have been posting extremely long reviews. Honestly is seems a little strange to me and it feels like some of them are just using a ton of filler words and over explaining all of the details. Shilling has been a recent topic and I feel like some of this could be that because if a AMP is slow they can have hours to type all of this stuff out and just mentioning a bunch of places to them maybe makes it seem less suspicious, plants the thoughts of visiting some of these lesser known places in our heads without making it seem to favor one more than the other.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7209565] Can y'all give me the HBO special by Helping a fellow AMP monger out? Greatly appreciate in advance.[/QUOTE]I usually rave about Love. But the rotation lately has been questionable. Save yourself a visit until someone worthwhile shows up.
[QUOTE=GoneIn30;7211043]I've been watching these threads for a couple years now. And all of a sudden people have been posting extremely long reviews. Honestly is seems a little strange to me and it feels like some of them are just using a ton of filler words and over explaining all of the details. Shilling has been a recent topic and I feel like some of this could be that because if a AMP is slow they can have hours to type all of this stuff out and just mentioning a bunch of places to them maybe makes it seem less suspicious, plants the thoughts of visiting some of these lesser known places in our heads without making it seem to favor one more than the other.[/QUOTE]It's really funny that someone who posts no reviews complain and accuse people of being shills. You can go and look at my posts and call me a shill if you want. Truth is I've frequented two main shops for the past 3 months. I write long reviews because I like writing LOL. I don't have friends who do this hobby so I don't really get to talk about it anywhere else. I'm wondering what people want out of this forum? I guarantee if I write something like "I went to candy. Had a good time" people would get mad at no details. Just my two cents.
Just saw Monica, she's my new favorite. I saw her at a place in eastern WA and got her number and she texted that she's now at Happy.
The location stinks and it looks like a dump from the outside. A little better inside, but not the best looking place. Aside from that the service was the best I've had yet at an AMP. I'd never have gone in unless I knew there was a top notch lady there.
Was greeted by an older-ish woman with bright red lipstick. Pretty cute, but was not there for her. Didn't get a name. Asked for Monica and got ushered to a room paid the house fee for an hour (. 6) and told to wait for 5 min. She left and shouted Monica's name and something in Chinese after.
About 10 min later Monica comes bounding in, all smiles in her polka dot dress. Big hug and kiss and starts undressing me. Last time I did the whole meh massage thing for the first 10 min, this time I asked to skip it. Tip given, dress vanishes and it's GFE time. Little post game makeout, chat via phone translator, hot towel, water bottle and on my way.
Monica is the most attractive AMP provider I've met. Maybe 5' tall, very tiny waist, but still has some boobs and butt. Killer smile too. Looks like a cute kindergarten teacher and very eager to please. Says she's 27, but I'd have guessed younger. Says she'll be there through the end of March. I'll certainly repeat.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7210802]Gentleman, a friendly reminder that you don't need to pay more, and if you do, you are encouraging them to expect more, and keep asking for higher prices. Two examples that come to mind are Candy on Holgate and Love on Powell.
I have been to many many AMPs in the Portland metro area.
I continue to get an hour of massage and boom boom for 200, half hour 170.
As another gentleman said, if you get push back, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Don't hesitate to walk away if a girl gives you a GPS attitude. If one place says no, the next place will say yes.[/QUOTE]I am very new to this AMP shit & got a lot to learn. From my recent experience, an extra $20 isn't prevalent per se. In my recent FS experience at Nice Spa she wanted more than $230 originally so I'm like I had $260 I was okay with spending that. I said no to more as she wanted $300 plus. She definitely had GPS & generally other shops don't haggle but part of my issue is, is that I use public transportation so I'm like shit I'd have to go elsewhere & that takes time LOL so part of it is laziness & just saying fuck it I'll take it but that's one me where I got to say naw fuck it I'm paying this or I'm leaving. I have to have better frame when negotiating etc at these AMP's. I'm curious from your experience though when you pay $200 when they want more do they treat you less & or turn you away & say they're busy when you come back next time? Some have done that to me when I paid less in the past.
It could reduce the quality of service but you're right if I pay more they'll expect more. Very few charged reasonably like at Kai yuan or Asian flower spa not for FS but extras & even said to me give me what you think is fair & they didn't argue it. Those individuals are gone though & in NY now. I do think $200 is never reasonable given how much they make monthly they can certainly be fine with $70 for massage for an hr & $130 extra equaling $200 for FS. Definitely going to try it next time & onward & say I'm good if they want full service & just start taking the massage. Ofc, I am dude LOL with a high sex drive so it's difficult LOL at times, but you're right. Thanks for the candid advice. Duly noted.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7210802]Gentleman, a friendly reminder that you don't need to pay more, and if you do, you are encouraging them to expect more, and keep asking for higher prices. Two examples that come to mind are Candy on Holgate and Love on Powell.
I have been to many many AMPs in the Portland metro area.
I continue to get an hour of massage and boom boom for 200, half hour 170.
As another gentleman said, if you get push back, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Don't hesitate to walk away if a girl gives you a GPS attitude. If one place says no, the next place will say yes.[/QUOTE]I only do 30 min. I start negotiating for FS at 80 and end up at 100 to 120. Never more than 120. I love the ladies that don't mention money. Sometimes I reward them.
[QUOTE=BluePineapple;7211176]I usually rave about Love. But the rotation lately has been questionable. Save yourself a visit until someone worthwhile shows up.[/QUOTE]Good looking out Brodie I appreciate you. In the next two weeks I plan to during my bday week I plan to hit up two shops & was thinking about that one but likely will go back to nice spa for candy & perhaps go back for MoMo to Candy massage but we'll see.
[QUOTE=DimSumFun;7211222]It's really funny that someone who posts no reviews complain and accuse people of being shills. You can go and look at my posts and call me a shill if you want. Truth is I've frequented two main shops for the past 3 months. I write long reviews because I like writing LOL. I don't have friends who do this hobby so I don't really get to talk about it anywhere else. I'm wondering what people want out of this forum? I guarantee if I write something like "I went to candy. Had a good time" people would get mad at no details. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I was going to respond to him but most don't like to read & have short attention spans & I don't like passive aggressive comments. Furthermore, I'm very direct but I just joined & find value in this forum so I'm not trying to get kicked LOL XD so I said let me not respond. However, being you responded & reflected on things I would have said plus more LOL I had to reply. I agree. I'm the same way. I'm a detailed individual & that's how my brain works. I prefer details. I write how I talk in person being very vivid & expressive etc & English was one of my fav subjects & writing etc so I'm with you on that Brodie.
It is very amusing indeed of his accusations. If he doesn't like it just keep scrolling & find shirt reviews. I personally value details & want to see things through the person's eyes as if I was there, encapsulating the experience in totality. Some of us are just like that. It's no biggy. I don't need to have fillers & or lie about things, as I said in my candy massage review. All in all, short reviews or not I have found value in this thread. We can agree that the common ground is just have details such as name of AMP, perhaps girls & the services they offer & perhaps cost etc. Most short reviews I've seen were lacking in details & most long reviews I've seen were not. Just my perspective.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7211282]I am very new to this AMP shit & got a lot to learn. From my recent experience, an extra $20 isn't prevalent per se. In my recent FS experience at Nice Spa she wanted more than $230 originally so I'm like I had $260 I was okay with spending that. I said no to more as she wanted $300 plus. She definitely had GPS & generally other shops don't haggle but part of my issue is, is that I use public transportation so I'm like shit I'd have to go elsewhere & that takes time LOL so part of it is laziness & just saying fuck it I'll take it but that's one me where I got to say naw fuck it I'm paying this or I'm leaving. I have to have better frame when negotiating etc at these AMP's. I'm curious from your experience though when you pay $200 when they want more do they treat you less & or turn you away & say they're busy when you come back next time? Some have done that to me when I paid less in the past.
It could reduce the quality of service but you're right if I pay more they'll expect more. Very few charged reasonably like at Kai yuan or Asian flower spa not for FS but extras & even said to me give me what you think is fair & they didn't argue it. Those individuals are gone though & in NY now. I do think $200 is never reasonable given how much they make monthly they can certainly be fine with $70 for massage for an hr & $130 extra equaling $200 for FS. Definitely going to try it next time & onward & say I'm good if they want full service & just start taking the massage. Ofc, I am dude LOL with a high sex drive so it's difficult LOL at times, but you're right. Thanks for the candid advice. Duly noted.[/QUOTE]I go to the same places. I give $$ and they know the routine. FS all the way no haggling or I tell them go get me money. Then they stop and proceed with pleasing me.
[QUOTE=DickRk;7211596]I go to the same places. I give $$ and they know the routine. FS all the way no haggling or I tell them go get me money. Then they stop and proceed with pleasing me.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. That'll be corrected expeditiously. Thanks for the objective constructive criticism.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7211562] I was going to respond to him but most don't like to read & have short attention spans & I don't like passive aggressive comments. Furthermore, I'm very direct but I just joined & find value in this forum so I'm not trying to get kicked LOL XD so I said let me not respond. However, being you responded & reflected on things I would have said plus more LOL I had to reply. I agree. I'm the same way. I'm a detailed individual & that's how my brain works. I prefer details. I write how I talk in person being very vivid & expressive etc & English was one of my fav subjects & writing etc so I'm with you on that Brodie.
It is very amusing indeed of his accusations. If he doesn't like it just keep scrolling & find shirt reviews. I personally value details & want to see things through the person's eyes as if I was there, encapsulating the experience in totality. Some of us are just like that. It's no biggy. I don't need to have fillers & or lie about things, as I said in my candy massage review. All in all, short reviews or not I have found value in this thread. We can agree that the common ground is just have details such as name of AMP, perhaps girls & the services they offer & perhaps cost etc. Most short reviews I've seen were lacking in details & most long reviews I've seen were not. Just my perspective.[/QUOTE]If you look at the AMP Ratings links frequently posted here, you see that there are any number of posted reviews behind a paywall. Price per month is pretty steep, if you ask me. I wonder if this "Cliff Notes" monger would pay for that, and if so, if he would be happy with reviews like, "Went (fill in name of place). Standard finish. Meh massage. Cute girl. ".
Some people just don't like to READ. *Anything*. I'm on the opposite side of that spectrum. And I come here for the DETAILS. I can't STAND reviews so terse that they make me wonder why the f* the dude even posted it.
[QUOTE=Urlboffer;7211945]If you look at the AMP Ratings links frequently posted here, you see that there are any number of posted reviews behind a paywall. Price per month is pretty steep, if you ask me. I wonder if this "Cliff Notes" monger would pay for that, and if so, if he would be happy with reviews like, "Went (fill in name of place). Standard finish. Meh massage. Cute girl. ".
Some people just don't like to READ. *Anything*. I'm on the opposite side of that spectrum. And I come here for the DETAILS. I can't STAND reviews so terse that they make me wonder why the f* the dude even posted it.[/QUOTE]Yeah first time user & still learning this site etc. They don't given the society we live in most have short attention spans, and are wanting results fast on things so they don't care for nuance or substance. We agree there. I'm not into the vague reviews whatsoever. Moreover, I would pay $47-69 or so for reviews on rub maps etc. I'd just come here for reviews & or find other free forums or talk to folks I personally know for real authentic reviews. I'd pay under $20 for it but not that amount near $70 or so.
[QUOTE=GoneIn30;7211043]I've been watching these threads for a couple years now. And all of a sudden people have been posting extremely long reviews. Honestly is seems a little strange to me and it feels like some of them are just using a ton of filler words and over explaining all of the details. Shilling has been a recent topic and I feel like some of this could be that because if a AMP is slow they can have hours to type all of this stuff out and just mentioning a bunch of places to them maybe makes it seem less suspicious, plants the thoughts of visiting some of these lesser known places in our heads without making it seem to favor one more than the other.[/QUOTE]You could be 100% right or 100% wrong! But personally to me, whether they are shilling or whether they are genuine does it really matter?
What category are there?
1) Paid writers?
2) Shop owners & affiliate (working girls) who speak / write fluent English?
3) Regular customers who loves to share or being asked by shop to advertise!
4) Someone who has nothing better to do and just like to make up stories on this forum?
5) ALL OF You. For whatever reason you post on this forum? (Fill in the blank) LOL.
Take away --> THE TRULY INTELLIGENT PERSON IS ONE WHO CAN PRETEND TO BE A FOOL IN FRONT OF FOOL WHO PRETEND TO BE INTELLIGENT.
Let's focus on why this forum was created and just enjoy the journey ^_^
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7211282]I am very new to this AMP shit & got a lot to learn. From my recent experience, an extra $20 isn't prevalent per se. In my recent FS experience at Nice Spa she wanted more than $230 originally so I'm like I had $260 I was okay with spending that. I said no to more as she wanted $300 plus. She definitely had GPS & generally other shops don't haggle but part of my issue is, is that I use public transportation so I'm like shit I'd have to go elsewhere & that takes time LOL so part of it is laziness & just saying fuck it I'll take it but that's one me where I got to say naw fuck it I'm paying this or I'm leaving. I have to have better frame when negotiating etc at these AMP's. I'm curious from your experience though when you pay $200 when they want more do they treat you less & or turn you away & say they're busy when you come back next time? Some have done that to me when I paid less in the past.
It could reduce the quality of service but you're right if I pay more they'll expect more. Very few charged reasonably like at Kai yuan or Asian flower spa not for FS but extras & even said to me give me what you think is fair & they didn't argue it. Those individuals are gone though & in NY now. I do think $200 is never reasonable given how much they make monthly they can certainly be fine with $70 for massage for an hr & $130 extra equaling $200 for FS. Definitely going to try it next time & onward & say I'm good if they want full service & just start taking the massage. Ofc, I am dude LOL with a high sex drive so it's difficult LOL at times, but you're right. Thanks for the candid advice. Duly noted.[/QUOTE]Valid point, except if I *feel* something is a fast food value I will paid <$200 and if something its luxury food value then I will go over $200.
Then if its 2nd visit, I will pay base on past experience and build from that.
If one is just there for quick release and just to fill up their belly, then $200 standard rate is perfectly fine too. Quick and easy
Or if you like some foreplay and massage before the main course and booked a 1 hour session and had a great time. Then pay what you think it's worth and not what it should worth. Especially those who has tried 4 hands and 6 hands and has achieved King of the World.
Of course, being a regular you get perks and special treatments ^_^ for those that made it there.
I don't know, I feel like we should also take inflation into account, after all it doesn't worth the same year by year. JK $_$
[QUOTE=SageSix;7213448]Valid point, except if I *feel* something is a fast food value I will paid <$200 and if something its luxury food value then I will go over $200.
Then if its 2nd visit, I will pay base on past experience and build from that.
If one is just there for quick release and just to fill up their belly, then $200 standard rate is perfectly fine too. Quick and easy
Or if you like some foreplay and massage before the main course and booked a 1 hour session and had a great time. Then pay what you think it's worth and not what it should worth. Especially those who has tried 4 hands and 6 hands and has achieved King of the World.
Of course, being a regular you get perks and special treatments ^_^ for those that made it there.
I don't know, I feel like we should also take inflation into account, after all it doesn't worth the same year by year. JK $_$[/QUOTE]Very valid & fair pts indeed I have paid premium or more because of the nuance of the overall experience with mostly one woman who really takes a liking to me & I to her. She has been total GFE with me & has texted me often & to me it's worth it. It all depends on what one values in said experience & how they feel within that experience with said masseuse. It's subjective at best. I don't believe personally folks paying $80 for FS as some have suggested or $200 total unless & I could be wrong but imo, unless:
1. Women is older & not as much clients.
2. Chemistry with said girl & being a regular going to see her weekly-monthly or in between that time frame.
3. Not as attractive.
4. Slow days & she'll take just about anything.
Again I can be wrong with any of these. However, I think at best perhaps $240-300 with hr massage plus FS. Of course as you indicated their is a possibility of skipping massage & just sex for $140-200 etc or even getting 30 minute massage than FS. Not saying it's impossible & that it couldn't be any reason that I didn't listed. I'm just under that belief for most folks that it's $240-300 areas particularly for 60 min massage than FS etc or perhaps they can even mean just a BBBJ or CBJ, hand job with massage etc so who knows but yeah is what it is. If folks can get less for a massage plus FS cool. Think either way it's worth a shot to get lower esp if they get 3-4 customers a day at $100 min per day that's $300 in a day & $8400 a month. I'm sure a percentage goes to shop & they may get 70 or so Maybe 50/50 split between owner of shop & masseuses. Either way monthly low in they can make between $4000 & as high as 8 k-10 k & that's untaxed ofc. I think it's fair for $200 overall for a massage & poonani. Think more clients will frequent more but I get it supply & demand. For me I'm only going mostly once a month & at times twice a month so I don't mind paying slightly higher than most. However, negotiations tactics should be discussed some all open to it thanks for sharing your perspective.
My perspectives on this are.
I can find incall providers (some I've already seen and had a pleasurable time with) for a price range from $160 - $220 for a hh that I know I won't have to haggle or negotiate with at all (there's only ONE reason to visit them, and a massage ain't it! I'll get to see a photo of them beforehand, or have met them already, and I'll pretty much know what I'm getting into.
So, to ME, the key allure for an AMP is 1) Variety and 2) a fairly reliable price cap; but one I'll have to negotiate for; luckily, my negotiations have been short (and sweet). The downsides are 1) Not having a preview 2) the language barrier, which pretty much prohibits any kind of "connection" and 3) the limitation to just Asian women.
Thus, it kind of depends on what I'm looking for in the moment. If I just need a release without any connection, the AMP is probably a better bet than a higher rate (where you're talking $240 - 300 for a hh) for new "strange" that you can preview first, and read reviews of ahead of time, but risk is, you don't know what the chemistry will be. Even with reviews and previews, you will at times be disappointed. Late last year I saw a very well reviewed and previewed provider who I thought would rock my world, and I was completely underwhelmed, almost to the point of wishing I had never bothered. Them's the breaks sometimes.
If I want to be sure I won't be disappointed, or don't want to spend / risk a lot, I can always return to one I've seen before (one provider I know I can see for a "grandfathered" 220 rate is possibly the best in the business, but of course, she's also very familiar now and doesn't fit the bill if I want "variety"; I go catch up with her about once per year).
I guess the short answer (for those of you who don't like these long-winded posts): Depends.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7213466]Very valid & fair pts indeed I have paid premium or more because of the nuance of the overall experience with mostly one woman who really takes a liking to me & I to her. She has been total GFE with me & has texted me often & to me it's worth it. It all depends on what one values in said experience & how they feel within that experience with said masseuse. It's subjective at best. I don't believe personally folks paying $80 for FS as some have suggested or $200 total unless & I could be wrong but imo, unless:
1. Women is older & not as much clients.
2. Chemistry with said girl & being a regular going to see her weekly-monthly or in between that time frame.
3. Not as attractive.
4. Slow days & she'll take just about anything.
Again I can be wrong with any of these. However, I think at best perhaps $240-300 with hr massage plus FS. Of course as you indicated their is a possibility of skipping massage & just sex for $140-200 etc or even getting 30 minute massage than FS. Not saying it's impossible & that it couldn't be any reason that I didn't listed. I'm just under that belief for most folks that it's $240-300 areas particularly for 60 min massage than FS etc or perhaps they can even mean just a BBBJ or CBJ, hand job with massage etc so who knows but yeah is what it is. If folks can get less for a massage plus FS cool. Think either way it's worth a shot to get lower esp if they get 3-4 customers a day at $100 min per day that's $300 in a day & $8400 a month. I'm sure a percentage goes to shop & they may get 70 or so Maybe 50/50 split between owner of shop & masseuses. Either way monthly low in they can make between $4000 & as high as 8 k-10 k & that's untaxed ofc. I think it's fair for $200 overall for a massage & poonani. Think more clients will frequent more but I get it supply & demand. For me I'm only going mostly once a month & at times twice a month so I don't mind paying slightly higher than most. However, negotiations tactics should be discussed some all open to it thanks for sharing your perspective.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Urlboffer;7214183]My perspectives on this are.
I can find incall providers (some I've already seen and had a pleasurable time with) for a price range from $160 - $220 for a hh that I know I won't have to haggle or negotiate with at all (there's only ONE reason to visit them, and a massage ain't it! I'll get to see a photo of them beforehand, or have met them already, and I'll pretty much know what I'm getting into.[/QUOTE]Great add & I enjoy in depth responses so thank you for that. Yeah I usually do an hour & than boom boom or 15 minutes of massage than flip than boom boom.
Than rest of time massage in areas of need. It's definitely a risk going to new places etc & wasting time & perhaps money. I have some go to places where rate is fairly guaranteed at $260 for hr massage plus boom boom etc, but it's far for me living in Beaverton in the Tanasbourne area to go over to Holgate in deeper Portland SE etc. I'm definitely either going there for my bday next week plus or a spot I go to in Beaverton they're at least 2-3 options I have but I do want to at least have 10 options on familiarity where what you're describing per se in your review is the dynamic for me & any way you slice it it's trial & error initially for everyone.
The saying for me is you got to be willing to take L's at times in life overall with anything to get to the W's. As for photos yeah I'd text places & they provided photos & the main go to's for me mostly was accurate with slight enhancement & it was great. At this pt though I am considering just going in for FS especially being it's going to make it cheaper or half hour. Some of the places I go to the massage is solid. I do have my main go to spot called aloha massage in Beaverton when I just want an excellent massage & healing I go there only. They're times I went to a AMP to get off etc then headed there after to get an hr massage cause most of these AMP the massage ain't legit plus lots of sexual touching etc LOL & light touching to stimulate and get man X hard LOL etc.
I would think they want house fee of massage so as a rookie AMP guy, didn't know that was an option to just get right into the action but wouldn't mind it. $160-220 yeah that's solid. Lowest I paid was about $180-$220 with someone I built chemistry with but ofc most men like new poonani LOL so it is what it is but like you said it's always good to have ole reliable in your pocket to pull out when needed. So I got to be smarter about this as a rookie AMP dude just starting like a month to 2 months or so now.
Yeah the language barrier LOL in the middle of massage etc phones got to be pulled out LOL and time taken away just to communicate properly LOL so yeah it can take away from quality & time & make things a little unpleasant but once those kinks are worked out you good. For me Asian women are my favorite ethnic of women with Latina being second. I don't mind just FS by Asian women mostly etc. I would like variety of different ethnic ofc, but I don't think their is an MP place that isn't Asian that offers FS etc to my knowledge unless you do escorts, street walkers or peeps advertising themselves on Craigslist & other sites in which I'm not as interested in personally but I'd be open to it but idk seems even more risky than an AMP or meeting up at a hotel or these agencies type of stuff.
The girls do tend to alternate too in these AMP's so that also can be a problem cause if you like one she can go to a different state as some of the ones I liked have or just overall another shop but that's why you get their numbers ofc & they tell you where they went to as some girls I frequent with do. That's true on previews / reviews. I went to a place called nice spa in Beaverton where a bud of mine previewed a girl named Eengie. I had a disappointing experience with her, as she complained about my dick being too big & said she liked small dicks plus she was very pushy on tips & asked me in middle of sex if I came already LOL trying to rush me & cut out time short of an hr to HH smh & went to deal with likely a regular. I'll never see her again. Massage was okay though. Yeah, I'm glad my homie enjoyed himself but me yeah it was disappointing. However, another girl came in name candy who was older but a sexy MILF with a banging body as she didn't charge for a HJ, plus some BJ action and boob action etc & some massage. I should of got her. I'm generally into younger women but always wanted to fuck a MILF. I would of had a great time with her but yeah just to lend to your example of previews / reviews of places I never been to plus no pics of girls either & relying on my homie's review of girls plus she wasn't as attractive as he said either which is subjective ofc but to him she was a 7, to me a 6 but her tatas were natural & she didn't really have an ass LOL as he said but yeah, it happens learning experience but it lead me to candy who didn't charge extra & told me even for HJ & BJ plus being able to fill up on her, no extra charge. She finished what Eengie didn't plus set the table for when I see her next time.
Yeah I hear ya bro. $220 grandfather rate is solid so yeah I feel you. Great stuff man. Thanks for sharing. I can't wait for my bday weekend near mid March. I may try two one reliable & another new one or that candy chick at nice spa. Be well AMP brother salute.
[QUOTE=Urlboffer;7214183]My perspectives on this are.
I can find incall providers (some I've already seen and had a pleasurable time with) for a price range from $160 - $220 for a hh that I know I won't have to haggle or negotiate with at all (there's only ONE reason to visit them, and a massage ain't it! I'll get to see a photo of them beforehand, or have met them already, and I'll pretty much know what I'm getting into.
So, to ME, the key allure for an AMP is 1) Variety and 2) a fairly reliable price cap; but one I'll have to negotiate for; luckily, my negotiations have been short (and sweet). The downsides are 1) Not having a preview 2) the language barrier, which pretty much prohibits any kind of "connection" and 3) the limitation to just Asian women.
Thus, it kind of depends on what I'm looking for in the moment. If I just need a release without any connection, the AMP is probably a better bet than a higher rate (where you're talking $240 - 300 for a hh) for new "strange" that you can preview first, and read reviews of ahead of time, but risk is, you don't know what the chemistry will be. Even with reviews and previews, you will at times be disappointed. Late last year I saw a very well reviewed and previewed provider who I thought would rock my world, and I was completely underwhelmed, almost to the point of wishing I had never bothered. Them's the breaks sometimes.
If I want to be sure I won't be disappointed, or don't want to spend / risk a lot, I can always return to one I've seen before (one provider I know I can see for a "grandfathered" 220 rate is possibly the best in the business, but of course, she's also very familiar now and doesn't fit the bill if I want "variety"; I go catch up with her about once per year).
I guess the short answer (for those of you who don't like these long-winded posts): Depends.[/QUOTE]Before 2020 there were a few apartment / motel setups for 1. 6 for the hour. The quality of the girl was always a crapshoot but at least there was a bed. Sometimes you get a fat, ugly and sometimes you may get a cute spinner. Come to think of it, the massage girls these days many seem into pleasing and less robotic dead fishes like before.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7213466]Very valid & fair pts indeed I have paid premium or more because of the nuance of the overall experience with mostly one woman who really takes a liking to me & I to her. She has been total GFE with me & has texted me often & to me it's worth it. It all depends on what one values in said experience & how they feel within that experience with said masseuse. It's subjective at best. I don't believe personally folks paying $80 for FS as some have suggested or $200 total unless & I could be wrong but imo, unless:
1. Women is older & not as much clients.
2. Chemistry with said girl & being a regular going to see her weekly-monthly or in between that time frame.
3. Not as attractive.
4. Slow days & she'll take just about anything.
Again I can be wrong with any of these. However, I think at best perhaps $240-300 with hr massage plus FS. Of course as you indicated their is a possibility of skipping massage & just sex for $140-200 etc or even getting 30 minute massage than FS. Not saying it's impossible & that it couldn't be any reason that I didn't listed. I'm just under that belief for most folks that it's $240-300 areas particularly for 60 min massage than FS etc or perhaps they can even mean just a BBBJ or CBJ, hand job with massage etc so who knows but yeah is what it is. If folks can get less for a massage plus FS cool. Think either way it's worth a shot to get lower esp if they get 3-4 customers a day at $100 min per day that's $300 in a day & $8400 a month. I'm sure a percentage goes to shop & they may get 70 or so Maybe 50/50 split between owner of shop & masseuses. Either way monthly low in they can make between $4000 & as high as 8 k-10 k & that's untaxed ofc. I think it's fair for $200 overall for a massage & poonani. Think more clients will frequent more but I get it supply & demand. For me I'm only going mostly once a month & at times twice a month so I don't mind paying slightly higher than most. However, negotiations tactics should be discussed some all open to it thanks for sharing your perspective.[/QUOTE]I only do 1/2 and 80% of the time tip 120.10% of the time 100. I have never paid more than 140.
[QUOTE=Pdx503;7214663]Before 2020 there were a few apartment / motel setups for 1. 6 for the hour. The quality of the girl was always a crapshoot but at least there was a bed. Sometimes you get a fat, ugly and sometimes you may get a cute spinner. Come to think of it, the massage girls these days many seem into pleasing and less robotic dead fishes like before.[/QUOTE]There are still quite a few in Portland and is not open to public, like they only take customer in from referral basis. They also have enough customer basis that they don't need to advertise. Of course, the starting rate are $300, different kind of clientele than average AMP clients.
Those girls are usually much younger in 20 - 25 range with more Intune skills to their own racial ethnics clientele. Once a while they will have Japanese rotation and girls that actually played a roled in Japanese AV and they offer BBFS and for those that love BB, you are in luck. But very rare in Portland, easy to find in LA and NewYork.
The market rate for AMP isn't worth it for most of those girls to venture out and for us monger to experience.
Sometimes we might get lucky, few have rotation in AMP once a while but only in busier AMP stores.
[QUOTE=Zippy69;7214821]I only do 1/2 and 80% of the time tip 120.10% of the time 100. I have never paid more than 140.[/QUOTE]Cool. Is that from initially & new ones you visit or from ones you frequent & are considered a regular client, and by frequent I'm talking going once or more within a month? Also, I'm curious on the level of attraction which I know it's subjective, but from your perspective are the ones you get for that price between 6-7 in looks etc & are of youth you know 20-25 maybe tops 30 in age? Not saying you can't but I am under the belief that, that it's on average mostly unlikely that someone can do hh or hr plus boom boom for that price. I could be wrong but most in this forum & folks I know who do the AMP stuff paying between $220-300 with hr or hh massage plus FS. I'd like to know the places these folks are going to cause I feel like some context is needed to assess this in totality. I am curious to know full details for folks like yourself who are paying around $140-200 for hh or hr & FS, respectfully.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7215210]Cool. Is that from initially & new ones you visit or from ones you frequent & are considered a regular client, and by frequent I'm talking going once or more within a month? Also, I'm curious on the level of attraction which I know it's subjective, but from your perspective are the ones you get for that price between 6-7 in looks etc & are of youth you know 20-25 maybe tops 30 in age? Not saying you can't but I am under the belief that, that it's on average mostly unlikely that someone can do hh or hr plus boom boom for that price. I could be wrong but most in this forum & folks I know who do the AMP stuff paying between $220-300 with hr or hh massage plus FS. I'd like to know the places these folks are going to cause I feel like some context is needed to assess this in totality. I am curious to know full details for folks like yourself who are paying around $140-200 for hh or hr & FS, respectfully.[/QUOTE]If you are paying anything over 220/ hr total at an AMP I think you're overpaying. At least in my limited experience. I've had young, attractive under 30 women for my last 4 visits and never paid over 200 total. All were full service, 2 were very GFE and included BBBJ. At this point I don't bother trying to haggle over 180 vs 200. When it's tip time I just hand over the remainder of my 200 after the house fee. I get smiles, her dress vanishes and the fun starts. I'm there to fuck, not to spend my time pissing off the lady I'm about to stick my dick in to save 20 bucks. However, I'm not going to pay way more than needed.
The alternative to AMPs are regular providers that cost at least 250-300/ hr on the low end, are hard to schedule, flaky, sometimes ghost or cancel and often have all kinds of rules or other personal issues.
200/ hr for GFE FS without having to schedule, hot towel after and water on the way out? It's a pretty damn good deal.
[QUOTE=Mixedplate89;7215210]Cool. Is that from initially & new ones you visit or from ones you frequent & are considered a regular client, and by frequent I'm talking going once or more within a month? Also, I'm curious on the level of attraction which I know it's subjective, but from your perspective are the ones you get for that price between 6-7 in looks etc & are of youth you know 20-25 maybe tops 30 in age? Not saying you can't but I am under the belief that, that it's on average mostly unlikely that someone can do hh or hr plus boom boom for that price. I could be wrong but most in this forum & folks I know who do the AMP stuff paying between $220-300 with hr or hh massage plus FS. I'd like to know the places these folks are going to cause I feel like some context is needed to assess this in totality. I am curious to know full details for folks like yourself who are paying around $140-200 for hh or hr & FS, respectfully.[/QUOTE]I try to stay between 140 and 180. I have never paid more then $$. Never even bring that much with me. I have done both 30 and 60 min depending on my mood and the girl.
I have been to many of them regularly with girls ranging in looks from 5-9. Always FS. Don't matter, price won't go past $$. I had above excellent service with Momo at candy last week for 60 min and she happily took the 1. 8 total from me. I would have given the entire $$ but a Jackson must have fell out in my car seat.
I also don't know anyone else paying more than $$. You and maybe one other guy here are the ones I see offering over $$ to $$.
For a short period there was a gal named Linda at Sakura. Maybe 5'1", very petite, A cup with eraser nipples and tight little ass. Haven't been able to find her again or anyone that fits close to this description in all my visits. If anyone knows of a gal that meets this body type please let me know. Thank you!