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[QUOTE=TSmithers24;5394453]I doubt many will read this all but I've had a ton of success on SA the past two years and wanted to write up how I've had success. This may not be the right site for this but whatever, I'm bored this morning. Might get roasted for this, might not but it has worked for me!
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[QUOTE=TSmithers24;5394453]I doubt many will read this all but I've had a ton of success on SA the past two years and wanted to write up how I've had success. This may not be the right site for this but whatever, I'm bored this morning. Might get roasted for this, might not but it has worked for me!
I have met with almost 20 women from the site over those two years and could've met with probably 10 more. I've also had 3 long term arrangements as well. Probably over half have been what some here call UTRs but I call real everyday beautiful young woman and they have been great! This is how I get THOSE women. If you are looking for STG types, don't read this and good luck. That's not why I'm writing this. This is just my personal experience and strategy and you may have a different one that works for you. Also, this takes a lot of time that you may not have. There are some women that want to get right to the point and if so, I do and will meet them quickly if the price is right. Again, this is not for them but I still go through the beginning part of this process to get them comfortable. Most are much more willing to go lower than what they want with someone they feel comfortable with! My range is 2-4 per meet and have had a lot of success with that with some really hot women and some just above average but I could tell that they would be a great time. Haha!
Here goes. YMMV!
I join the site usually every 6-8 months or so and during that time I build a literal spreadsheet of names and numbers that I get. I start by sending tons and tons of messages to women I'm interested in. It takes time but I read their profiles, mention something from it, explain I have experience, say I'm looking for something long term and ask them to review my profile. The message is very polite, not too long but not just "how are you". My profile is detailed and has the description of a real sugar daddy looking for something long term, which I am but also will do one time meets but don't say that there. Most of these women want to think they are getting what they read about, a real sugar daddy to "take care of them". They don't want to feel like hookers. This is all to get the conversation started and when it does I don't talk about sex or how much or anything like that (unless they do) and just try to have a fun conversation. I am overly nice during this time, compliment them a lot and try to make them laugh or smile. I get a lot of "awww, you're so sweet" and "You aren't like the other guys on here" comments. This gets them to drop their guard a little because they finally met one of the nice guys on SA after so many "How much for how long? "Do you do anal? "Lets meet tonight? The good ones want to be wooed.
When they ask what I'm looking for I say I like to start with per meet and have two to three dates per month. I like fun dates like dinners and drinks, shopping, outdoor activities and even weekend trips later in the arrangement and that once we build trust we can move to an allowance that works for both of us. Then I say that all my previous arrangements involved intimacy as well (I never use the term sex or anything like that just intimacy). Then I ask if that is all OK with them. Some will say sounds good but for how much and I'll ask them to move to text to have the money conversation at this point. Some will say yes and nothing else and I'll also ask to go to text so we can get to know each other further and discuss more.
When we get to text I don't go right into how much or details about what sexual stuff they are OK with unless they ask. I continue just being nice, asking about them, telling them about me, telling them about my previous long term arrangements and other stuff. After a bit of that, it's time to talk money. By this time she is already drawn in. She already knows she's dealing with a normal good guy and not an asshole who's going to just use and abuse her but instead someone who will hopefully stick around for a while. So when she says 4 or 5 or even 6-7 to meet and I say 2-3 she is much more likely to say OK or meet closer to my number because she's comfortable. Some understand that in the end she will get a lot more from one guy over time and have stability. She might get that 4-7 per meet from someone else but will have to meet with a bunch of different guys, deal with the asshole aspect on SA, that danger aspect of meeting many and the money will be more sporadic. The ones who don't realize it, I will actually say that to them and sell them on that point of stability and long term for less and it usually works but some call bullshit saying we'll meet once for low amount and I'll bolt and it's hard to get past. If they agree and they are comfortable, you can read if it's the right time to talk more sexually with them. Most will be good with it and it moves everything along.
Then I ask for a date since we've talked enough where they mostly trust me and we've had some sexual conversations and they know that the first date will end in a room. This whole process saves me from doing a bunch of meet and greets. If I think it's someone I want to start something with then I will do a little something extra for the date. One thing I've found they really like is to find out their favorite drink and then make it in the room for them. We then usually have a great and really comfortable date because of the connection we built in text. In some cases we even skip the outside stuff and I'll bring drinks and order food to the room. Most of my in room time lasts from 3-5 hours and even spent 7 hours with one woman, which was awesome. After the date, it's up in the air how it goes. Sometimes we start something, sometimes we won't. Sometimes I will see them again, sometimes I won't, sometimes they want to see me again, sometimes they won't. Either way it was a great night with a beautiful young lady for the amount I'm looking for.
Key terms to use: arrangement, intimacy, connection, trust.
Be nice, be respectful, treat like you would a woman you are trying to make your girlfriend and you will get very far.
Yes, it's a lot of work but to me personally it's worth it. I enjoy the hunt and getting to know these young women. That's not for everyone. I like the longer term stuff while sprinkling in some one nighters for some variety. For those that read this far, I'm surprised but glad you did.[/QUOTE]This is a winning formula for sure. This is my general approach as well. If you are looking for a real UTR or long term thing with someone that is not an STG girl, this approach should help you get there. YMMV, of course.
[QUOTE=TSmithers24;5394453]I doubt many will read this all but I've had a ton of success on SA the past two years and wanted to write up how I've had success. This may not be the right site for this but whatever, I'm bored this morning. Might get roasted for this, might not but it has worked for me!
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For those that read this far, I'm surprised but glad you did.[/QUOTE]We are on the same page for technique especially the spreadsheet part. I need that to keep everything organized. Whether for a winner or someone who didn't work out. Having the history is a date saver, so to speak. I've had my share of good numbers on SA with my best work in the Fall and Winter when women have less to do vs summertime. Nice job on your side!
BMD.
[QUOTE=Drewonhere;5394496]Hopefully you won't get a bunch of "yeah, buts" piling on. You keep doing you. This is exactly the type of info needed in the SA forums. And then everyone can take away what they want and leave the rest.
Thanks for sharing![/QUOTE]Appreciate the positive responses.
I rejoined two weeks ago. I have 9 or 10 in my spreadsheet already but dropped two that were too clingy. Already met a 25 yr old latin nanny who met me directly in the room for 2. 5 and spent 3. 5 hours and did everything really well. I will see her again but she's not a long term one. Second one I saw was a 22 year old nerdy girl that was very shy. Her texting was sporadic but I wanted to meet her. Finally set a date and time and I had a feeling she wasn't going to show. She showed up and I could tell was super nervous. She told me she only set up one date from the site so far and it was in NYC and the guy didn't show. She also said she got so nervous that morning that she wasn't going to show but how nice I was in text made her comfortable enough. I had asked in text what her favorite fruit was and looked up a cocktail based on that fruit and brought the ingrediants. She cut up the fresh fruit while I was mixing the drinks and that totally loosened her up. After a few drinks we had fun for about 2 hours and she was really good as well. Nice body too! Might see her again as well but not long term.
Next week I have a 30 yr old blonde lined up who's already sent me multiple pics and vids and looks really sexy. That should be fun!
But the one I'm looking to hang with long term is a 21 yr old college student and would be the best looking I've ever met on SA. She was really into texting so I waited 5 days to talk ppm after she was a bit hooked and boy did it work. Her last arrangement was very high and I believe her. She also told me it lasted two months and she really couldn't stand the guy. So I pulled the consistency, stability and actually hanging with some one you enjoy line with her from my other post and she agreed to my number. I didn't think she would. Can't wait to meet her in two weeks.
They are out there! Good luck!
[QUOTE=TSmithers24;5395045]Appreciate the positive responses.
I rejoined two weeks ago. I have 9 or 10 in my spreadsheet already but dropped two that were too clingy. Already met a 25 yr old latin nanny who met me directly in the room for 2. 5 and spent 3. 5 hours and did everything really well. I will see her again but she's not a long term one. Second one I saw was a 22 year old nerdy girl that was very shy. Her texting was sporadic but I wanted to meet her. Finally set a date and time and I had a feeling she wasn't going to show. She showed up and I could tell was super nervous. She told me she only set up one date from the site so far and it was in NYC and the guy didn't show. She also said she got so nervous that morning that she wasn't going to show but how nice I was in text made her comfortable enough. I had asked in text what her favorite fruit was and looked up a cocktail based on that fruit and brought the ingrediants. She cut up the fresh fruit while I was mixing the drinks and that totally loosened her up. After a few drinks we had fun for about 2 hours and she was really good as well. Nice body too! Might see her again as well but not long term.
Next week I have a 30 yr old blonde lined up who's already sent me multiple pics and vids and looks really sexy. That should be fun!
But the one I'm looking to hang with long term is a 21 yr old college student and would be the best looking I've ever met on SA. She was really into texting so I waited 5 days to talk ppm after she was a bit hooked and boy did it work. Her last arrangement was very high and I believe her. She also told me it lasted two months and she really couldn't stand the guy. So I pulled the consistency, stability and actually hanging with some one you enjoy line with her from my other post and she agreed to my number. I didn't think she would. Can't wait to meet her in two weeks.
They are out there! Good luck![/QUOTE]I have to agree with you. Yes it is a lot more work and more expensive but in the end for me it is safer and enjoyable experience. I'm not going to end up with some pimped out crackhead from STG. Really there is no comparison.
Currently I'm seeing a girl from SA and it is on a semi casual basis e. G. We don't have regular occurring schedule. We keep in contact with each other and when I feel the urge for a release we schedule with a 2-3 days notice, but I probably see her about twice a month (since about February) . Attractive, fit, mid-20's with regular job and is doing this for the extra money and as she's told me out of boredom. She's the 6th girl in the last year I've met from SA and I follow almost the same routine as you do except I don't keep a spreadsheet, maybe I should but ALL have be great experiences.
[QUOTE=PopPoppy70;5396148]I have to agree with you. Yes it is a lot more work and more expensive but in the end for me it is safer and enjoyable experience. I'm not going to end up with some pimped out crackhead from STG. Really there is no comparison.
Currently I'm seeing a girl from SA and it is on a semi casual basis e. G. We don't have regular occurring schedule. We keep in contact with each other and when I feel the urge for a release we schedule with a 2-3 days notice, but I probably see her about twice a month (since about February) . Attractive, fit, mid-20's with regular job and is doing this for the extra money and as she's told me out of boredom. She's the 6th girl in the last year I've met from SA and I follow almost the same routine as you do except I don't keep a spreadsheet, maybe I should but ALL have be great experiences.[/QUOTE]Share some links.
Quote Originally Posted by OldPup.
I had high hopes for Sophie. We were scheduled to meet at 3. She texted that she was leaving and could definitely make 3:15 at the latest, then kept texting me until 3:30 that she was stuck in traffic. I left at 3:40. Maybe her phone died?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c13c1...e-bc8de73fd85f[/URL]
No $ in advance and she was pleasant all the way though to the silence. Not sure why something like this happens.
[QUOTE=BuckCock;5378759]She's on her 3rd or 4th profile. Her name was Ivy a few years ago. Never met her, at the time she would text once or twice a day. Conversations would be like: Her hey are you busy tonight? ME: no I'm free after 3 pm HER: I get home from work at 5 ME: Lets meet at _ around 6 radio silence.[/QUOTE]I noticed that her profile was still up SA so I decided to text her and say whatsup.
She was very apologetic and then surprised that I would give her another chance. We met last night outside a Dunks, quickly moved next-door to USA (thank you Blue) and had a great time. She was a half hour late but kept me informed the entire time. I'm confident that she just underestimated the time it would take to commute after getting out of work in Springfield. I had to rush away afterwards because of a commitment I didn't want to be late to but otherwise it couldn't have gone better. I was just reading on here that, with SA, patience has it rewards, and now I am a believer.
[QUOTE=OldPup;5400847]Quote Originally Posted by OldPup.
I had high hopes for Sophie. We were scheduled to meet at 3. She texted that she was leaving and could definitely make 3:15 at the latest, then kept texting me until 3:30 that she was stuck in traffic. I left at 3:40. Maybe her phone died?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c13c1...e-bc8de73fd85f[/URL]
No $ in advance and she was pleasant all the way though to the silence. Not sure why something like this happens.
I noticed that her profile was still up SA so I decided to text her and say whatsup.
She was very apologetic and then surprised that I would give her another chance. We met last night outside a Dunks, quickly moved next-door to USA (thank you Blue) and had a great time. She was a half hour late but kept me informed the entire time. I'm confident that she just underestimated the time it would take to commute after getting out of work in Springfield. I had to rush away afterwards because of a commitment I didn't want to be late to but otherwise it couldn't have gone better. I was just reading on here that, with SA, patience has it rewards, and now I am a believer.[/QUOTE]Giving SA girls a second chance is definitely a good idea. Of course, not all do, but, patience can be rewarded. I was supposed to meet a girl last Monday, she canceled last minute, forgot about an appointment or something. Was very apologetic and we set something up a few nights later. Fantastic date, beautiful woman, definitely someone I want to see on a regular basis.
Use your brain, at all times, but very often, treating these women like you would treat a traditional date and it will pay off more often than not.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f99cce5-dda9-4296-bc52-01e23788a8ca[/URL] this profile is fake. The pics are stolen from an Instagram model beccafreshely.
[QUOTE=XxMarkXx;5402169]Giving SA girls a second chance is definitely a good idea. Of course, not all do, but, patience can be rewarded. I was supposed to meet a girl last Monday, she canceled last minute, forgot about an appointment or something. Was very apologetic and we set something up a few nights later. Fantastic date, beautiful woman, definitely someone I want to see on a regular basis.
Use your brain, at all times, but very often, treating these women like you would treat a traditional date and it will pay off more often than not.[/QUOTE]Her profile is gone.
[QUOTE=OldPup;5400847]Quote Originally Posted by OldPup.
I had high hopes for Sophie. We were scheduled to meet at 3. She texted that she was leaving and could definitely make 3:15 at the latest, then kept texting me until 3:30 that she was stuck in traffic. I left at 3:40. Maybe her phone died?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c13c1...e-bc8de73fd85f[/URL]
No $ in advance and she was pleasant all the way though to the silence. Not sure why something like this happens.
I noticed that her profile was still up SA so I decided to text her and say whatsup.
She was very apologetic and then surprised that I would give her another chance. We met last night outside a Dunks, quickly moved next-door to USA (thank you Blue) and had a great time. She was a half hour late but kept me informed the entire time. I'm confident that she just underestimated the time it would take to commute after getting out of work in Springfield. I had to rush away afterwards because of a commitment I didn't want to be late to but otherwise it couldn't have gone better. I was just reading on here that, with SA, patience has it rewards, and now I am a believer.[/QUOTE]No thanks necessary, that's we we are here. The funny thing is, my first essay girl was the one who told me about the place. It is clean, 50 bucks for 2 hours and there are in the process of redoing their rooms. They're doing the bathrooms, new carpeting in the bedrooms, and painting! They are definitely worth the trip. And there's no hassle. In fact, there's one lady that's on Thursday nights when I go there, that definitely knows me. All she wants is my name and a phone number, usually. Sometimes she asks for my license number. I start filling the card out and she goes, "Don't worry, I know you!
Be careful out there.
Blue.
[QUOTE=BlueFox141;5403504]No thanks necessary, that's we we are here. The funny thing is, my first essay girl was the one who told me about the place. It is clean, 50 bucks for 2 hours and there are in the process of redoing their rooms. They're doing the bathrooms, new carpeting in the bedrooms, and painting! They are definitely worth the trip. And there's no hassle. In fact, there's one lady that's on Thursday nights when I go there, that definitely knows me. All she wants is my name and a phone number, usually. Sometimes she asks for my license number. I start filling the card out and she goes, "Don't worry, I know you!
Be careful out there.
Blue.[/QUOTE]I think they remodeled 10 or so years ago. Nice that they're doing it again. It's the best place on that road. I know the lady you're talking about. She let's me slide on the formalities but I tip her anyway. When I show up she shows a huge smile and hands me a key.
BMD.
Just found this incredibly funny. This one told me her last arrangement ended because he cheaped out on her. Started out at $5 K per meet and he was shortchanging her over time to only $500 per meet.
Hoping nobody actually would believe this. I am not sure I would give $5 k for an overnight with Nicole Aniston or Angela White. OK, that might be something to consider, LOL.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/83943896-66a4-41bb-bb5a-a7e5264629ed[/URL]
[QUOTE=XxMarkXx;5404066]Just found this incredibly funny. This one told me her last arrangement ended because he cheaped out on her. Started out at $5 K per meet and he was shortchanging her over time to only $500 per meet.
Hoping nobody actually would believe this. I am not sure I would give $5 k for an overnight with Nicole Aniston or Angela White. OK, that might be something to consider, LOL.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/83943896-66a4-41bb-bb5a-a7e5264629ed[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a 20 year old chubby kid and a BS artist. She'd be overpriced at 2 bills.
[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5403978]I think they remodeled 10 or so years ago. Nice that they're doing it again. It's the best place on that road. I know the lady you're talking about. She let's me slide on the formalities but I tip her anyway. When I show up she shows a huge smile and hands me a key.
BMD.[/QUOTE]I never thought about tipping her! Nice idea (almost said tip). It's probably worth it. Thanks BMD.
Blue.