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[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3741290]Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?[/QUOTE]Ozium air sanitizer works pretty well.
She got out for under $100 On Amazon. Works great.
I think this is it...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JAP7388/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[QUOTE=DrDave39;3741780]Chloe Starr has some machine that is a "smoke eater"- I'm super sensitive but couldn't smell any smoke whatsoever. By the way, thank you for working on this- smoke is both a major turnoff for me, and a red flag when I come home. I've had to stop seeing several providers I really liked because of this. You will increase your appeal- good move!
The good dr.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3741290]Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?[/QUOTE]You can rent an ozone generator from a tool rental. But people shouldn't be there while it's running. It works and is not expensive.
[QUOTE=LoveThyTitties;3741965]You can rent an ozone generator from a tool rental. But people shouldn't be there while it's running. It works and is not expensive.[/QUOTE]This is a cheap alternative: you can offer your clients a heavy plastic bag to keep their clothes in while they're with you. It's certainly not the best solution, but it would add one more layer of protection.
[QUOTE=RowJimmy;3741851]Ozium air sanitizer works pretty well.[/QUOTE]You can find Ozium at auto stores like Pep Boys, Auto Zone, etc. It works treating killing off smoke and pet smells.
[QUOTE=TennVols77;3741540]ODOR XIT is supposed to be a fine product. Never have used it, but, people swear by it.[/QUOTE]Works very well, and is available in small spray bottles that are easy to take with you. They also have a couple of different air purifier products. And, their HQ is in West Chester, so you're supporting a local business.
[QUOTE=LoveThyTitties;3741965]You can rent an ozone generator from a tool rental. But people shouldn't be there while it's running. It works and is not expensive.[/QUOTE]This is to everyone who responded! I really appreciate your input and ill start looking into these things and get ir done! Everyone have a great fuuuuuckinnn Thursday LOL.
[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3743698]This is to everyone who responded! I really appreciate your input and ill start looking into these things and get ir done! Everyone have a great fuuuuuckinnn Thursday LOL.[/QUOTE]I guess sharing a smoke between rounds is out of the question now. LOL.
[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3743698]This is to everyone who responded! I really appreciate your input and ill start looking into these things and get ir done! Everyone have a great fuuuuuckinnn Thursday LOL.[/QUOTE]Your fucking welcome! LOL.
[QUOTE=LoveThyTitties;3744811]Your fucking welcome! LOL.[/QUOTE]Did you have a good fuuuckin Thursday? LOL.
[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3744826]Did you have a good fuuuckin Thursday? LOL.[/QUOTE]Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you!
[QUOTE=ProVid;3738146]Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
[HR][/HR]
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.[/QUOTE]I've been in the hobby since '11 and am a VIP member of the #1 provider / client verification site on the web with 20+ provider okays and have written over 50 reviews on anoThER site. I'm not trying to impress anyone (not that anyone would give a shit), just want to establish that I've been around the block a time or two.
Yes, someone having good reviews and charging $500.00/ hr doesn't make them a great provider, been there and done that. But what I do when checking out a provider is look at the reviews, if a client gives a rating of 9 or 10, I check out the clients history. If he consistently gives out 9's and 10's like candy at holloween, I'll take his review a little less seriously. Conversely, if that reviewer has a history of thoughtfully giving out different grades, I'll give his rating a little more weight. This has helped me to find providers that dish out the type of service I prefer. I still get disappointed from time to time but it happens less frequently. When I write a review I not only relate the mechanics of my session, I try to relate the overall atmosphere.
I have not seen Molly nor have I seen the video, but I'm one of the 'most guys' that have no problem seeing a provider who is working and being friendly in the process. If she wasn't working, there would be no need of a 'donation', of course she's working. As far as finding a provider who 'enjoys fucking me on a primitive level', I have no delusions as to what's happening here, as RogerOver so eloquently put it, "if you want to test out that 'love thing', stop paying. Having said that, I enjoy a session more if a provider seems to enjoy our time together and even more if I'm convinced she does. I've also seen providers that I got the impression they wished they were anywhere else doing anything other than what they were doing- I don't call on these a 2nd time. I tried to set up a session with Molly, but she didn't accept my references for whatever reason. Her screening process is her screening process and I didn't take it personal.
There was a post in here (not sure which forum) where a hobbyist said if he was impressed with a provider, he would take them out to lunch or dinner. Personally, I'm not interested in having a meal with an escort any more that she might be interested in going out with me. If I feel a provider has gone the extra mile, I'll drop a 50 or c-note on top of the envelope on my way out. This is what she's there for and the great service is what I'm there for. Besides, I might get preferred booking status if I call on her again.
Also as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, no BBBJ is a deal breaker for me but I won't do BBFS. I know there's a chance of contracting something via BBBJ, but it's miniscule and almost automatic from BBFS.
Not looking for a pissing contest, this is just my humble opinion. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3738146]Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
[HR][/HR]
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.[/QUOTE]I pay attention to very very few reviewers here in regards especially to appearance but also to performance. I look mostly at the ripoff reviews as I find them the most informative. There are some reviewers here I pay zero attention to as every single provider they are with is great, mind blowing etc. Some others too that describe a provider as attractive and she is, at least in my opinion, flat out unattractive. We all have our standards and preferences but a lot here, once again in my opinion, have very low standards. And to them, whom some are "highly regarded" reviewers, I pay no attention. There are about 2 mongers here I listen to their opinion. Most of the time if they rate a provider not well or so so they are attacked by the group that loves her. I pay attention the individual and not the group. So I agree that a great review on here doesn't necessarily mean the provider is great. Not only does YMMV apply to the providers, but also TWGS to the reviews. Taken With a Grain of Salt.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3738146]Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
[HR][/HR]
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.[/QUOTE]I pay attention to very very few reviewers here in regards especially to appearance but also to performance. I look mostly at the ripoff reviews, no shows, crickets and bait and switches as I find them the most informative. There are some reviewers here I pay zero attention to as every single provider they are with is great, mind blowing etc. Some others too that describe a provider as attractive and she is, at least in my opinion, flat out unattractive. We all have our standards and preferences but a lot here, once again in my opinion, have very low standards. And to them, whom some are "highly regarded" reviewers, I pay no attention. There are about 2 mongers here I listen to their opinion. Most of the time if they rate a provider not well or so so they are attacked by the group that loves her. I pay attention the individual and not the group. So I agree that a great review on here doesn't necessarily mean the provider is great. Not only does YMMV apply to the providers, but also TWGS to the reviews. Taken With a Grain of Salt. And I suppose to others you can take that opinion with me.
[QUOTE=LoveThyTitties;3745257]Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you![/QUOTE]Yea cause you would have had way more fun lmao!
Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off!
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3751414]Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off![/QUOTE]You sir are my hero. I have 0 game that's one of the many reasons I'm on here.
[QUOTE=AceJohnson;3746250]I've been in the hobby since '11 and am a VIP member of the #1 provider / client verification site on the web with 20+ provider okays and have written over 50 reviews on anoThER site. I'm not trying to impress anyone (not that anyone would give a shit), just want to establish that I've been around the block a time or two.
Yes, someone having good reviews and charging $500.00/ hr doesn't make them a great provider, been there and done that. But what I do when checking out a provider is look at the reviews, if a client gives a rating of 9 or 10, I check out the clients history. If he consistently gives out 9's and 10's like candy at holloween, I'll take his review a little less seriously. Conversely, if that reviewer has a history of thoughtfully giving out different grades, I'll give his rating a little more weight. This has helped me to find providers that dish out the type of service I prefer. I still get disappointed from time to time but it happens less frequently. When I write a review I not only relate the mechanics of my session, I try to relate the overall atmosphere.
I have not seen Molly nor have I seen the video, but I'm one of the 'most guys' that have no problem seeing a provider who is working and being friendly in the process. If she wasn't working, there would be no need of a 'donation', of course she's working. As far as finding a provider who 'enjoys fucking me on a primitive level', I have no delusions as to what's happening here, as RogerOver so eloquently put it, "if you want to test out that 'love thing', stop paying. Having said that, I enjoy a session more if a provider seems to enjoy our time together and even more if I'm convinced she does. I've also seen providers that I got the impression they wished they were anywhere else doing anything other than what they were doing- I don't call on these a 2nd time. I tried to set up a session with Molly, but she didn't accept my references for whatever reason. Her screening process is her screening process and I didn't take it personal.
There was a post in here (not sure which forum) where a hobbyist said if he was impressed with a provider, he would take them out to lunch or dinner. Personally, I'm not interested in having a meal with an escort any more that she might be interested in going out with me. If I feel a provider has gone the extra mile, I'll drop a 50 or c-note on top of the envelope on my way out. This is what she's there for and the great service is what I'm there for. Besides, I might get preferred booking status if I call on her again.
Also as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, no BBBJ is a deal breaker for me but I won't do BBFS. I know there's a chance of contracting something via BBBJ, but it's miniscule and almost automatic from BBFS.
Not looking for a pissing contest, this is just my humble opinion. Be safe and have fun, Ace.[/QUOTE]"enjoying sex on a primitive level" is not "love". I think you are unclear about the broad distinction between those two concepts.
You can have primitive sexual chemistry with someone and not even like them. And You can care deeply for someone, admire them, think they are beautiful and perfect in their imperfections. You can dedicate your life to them, and they to yours. And after all of that admiration and love, you can still have lame sex because underneath all the high-level valuation and emotional interactions, you don't have that animal lust thing.
Primitive chemistry isn't something you can choose to have or not. It can't be faked. It's not PSE or GFE. It's something else. And reviews don't help with that.
I am happy for you for your success, but what relevance does your success bring to a website where men share info so that their brethren can attain sexual satisfaction?
This is my problem with all of the reviews about UTR women who don't want to see others.
We all would be better served if you sent you review to Penthouse for their "Penthouse Letter Forum".
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3751414]Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BTBear;3753006]I am happy for you for your success, but what relevance does your success bring to a website where men share info so that their brethren can attain sexual satisfaction?
This is my problem with all of the reviews about UTR women who don't want to see others.
We all would be better served if you sent you review to Penthouse for their "Penthouse Letter Forum".[/QUOTE]That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3753167]That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".[/QUOTE]It's nice to brag every once in a while. IlvblkGrls has provided tons of great information to the site, where else will you find like minded people to share a "win" with. It's not excessive or over the top so doesn't bother me a bit.
I get where you are coming from BT but I don't think it's a big deal when it's contributing members that do it. A guy with 3 posts? yeah I'd give that a thumbs down.
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3753167]That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".[/QUOTE]That's funny as hell, I think you told BTBear to quit being a Douchbag in the most polite manner. Maybe that's the point though, maybe he's in here trolling because he can't attain sexual satisfaction! Haha Time to lighten up, it's Friday after all.
Golfguy, playing through.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3752384]"enjoying sex on a primitive level" is not "love". I think you are unclear about the broad distinction between those two concepts.
You can have primitive sexual chemistry with someone and not even like them. And You can care deeply for someone, admire them, think they are beautiful and perfect in their imperfections. You can dedicate your life to them, and they to yours. And after all of that admiration and love, you can still have lame sex because underneath all the high-level valuation and emotional interactions, you don't have that animal lust thing.
Primitive chemistry isn't something you can choose to have or not. It can't be faked. It's not PSE or GFE. It's something else. And reviews don't help with that.[/QUOTE]ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
OK, I'm not naming names here; this is advice for all you nubes.
Sending a PM to a senior asking more detail about one of our conquests is fine. Asking for advice is fine. I try to be a helpful monger.
But seriously, I've seen every one of your posts; (and yes it's pretty easy to see every post you made) and all you do is ask how about this girl, or that girl, or who is in Florence, or how can I see so and so if I have no reviews or references.
Dammit man Read the fucking forum. Or learn to use the search feature. See some ladies, and post some reviews (so providers can look you up).
Most of all, quit relying on others to do your homework. And no, I'm not answering that last PM. Figure it out.
[QUOTE=AceJohnson;3753944]ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.[/QUOTE]Ace- same here, no kids but her desire went to zero in her mid 40's at menopause onset. Our relationship is clearly better now that I hobby (not really sure if she knows or not) - I realized for many years I was simply low level angry at her-"You are the reason I don't have a sex life". Now that that is not the case, I am happier and better to her- and to myself.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.
[QUOTE=DrDave39;3755801]Ace- same here, no kids but her desire went to zero in her mid 40's at menopause onset. Our relationship is clearly better now that I hobby (not really sure if she knows or not) - I realized for many years I was simply low level angry at her-"You are the reason I don't have a sex life". Now that that is not the case, I am happier and better to her- and to myself.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.[/QUOTE]I don't even need to change a single word.
Smiles.
[QUOTE=AlfReady;3755628]OK, I'm not naming names here; this is advice for all you nubes.
Sending a PM to a senior asking more detail about one of our conquests is fine. Asking for advice is fine. I try to be a helpful monger.
But seriously, I've seen every one of your posts; (and yes it's pretty easy to see every post you made) and all you do is ask how about this girl, or that girl, or who is in Florence, or how can I see so and so if I have no reviews or references.
Dammit man Read the fucking forum. Or learn to use the search feature. See some ladies, and post some reviews (so providers can look you up).
Most of all, quit relying on others to do your homework. And no, I'm not answering that last PM. Figure it out.[/QUOTE]I just had a guy pm me asking all kinds of questions about a provider asked me if I had pictures or where she advertises and if she previously worked at any clubs, and if I was willing to share digits, with a read receipt. First I had no pictures and if I did I wouldn't send them to him, the provider is and was on a few sites he knows her name and knows his way around a computer well enough to get on here and pm me how come he can't just find the info himself? As far as where she works or used to work why do I give a f##k about what she used to do for a living? And giving him a phone number he can find on his own I think not. I'm not going to call dude out by handle but I am going to say dude if you're reading this that's why I didn't help you. HL29.
[QUOTE=AceJohnson;3753944]ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you 'get it' better than you think. It took me two years to take the dive. Lust and love, life is better with both. Thanks for your thoughtful post.
My personal experience has been whether married or with a g / f the sex falls off, and in my case drastically. Even as a young man with a constant boner. As the cliche goes, for every beautiful woman there's a man (or woman) bored with her pussy.
I've been single essentially since 98 so the hobby for me is a convenient way to avoid being bitched at and quite honestly, I can be a jerk at times and I hate it when I go there. I had a g / f for a short while in the early 90's and we went to club 440 to spice things up. For you married gents who are lucky enough to wake up to a woman who loves you, you might want to think about gently bringing this up. Great people, a lot of fun, and it might rekindle the passion! And if not, well you both can get laid and see some fun sights!
Just a thought, I know unrealistic for some but might work for some. JJ.
If I troll a post like this does it fall under the useless drama category or the good old fun category? Not here to piss off A2! "Has any one seen her. She answered my message she is 39 and pretty. She's past Amelia. Very quick responce from Her. Her rates for FS are good. She is also a bareback provider. She's Outcall only. I'm going to visit her soon. Any info and one I can share her digits. ".
[QUOTE=JimJaimes;3756225]My personal experience has been whether married or with a g / f the sex falls off, and in my case drastically. Even as a young man with a constant boner. As the cliche goes, for every beautiful woman there's a man (or woman) bored with her pussy.
[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. I'm married. She started to unilaterally change the rules once we had kids and the house in the 'burbs. That crap messed with my head for a while. But one day, I realized I no longer cared. Was kind of easy to not care since I was getting it on in the hobby with young women half my age or less. I would have thought she'd have called me out by now on the lack of action at home, but nope. If she hasn't questioned me by now, she's probably not going to so long as I remain discreet.
[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3756371]I know what you mean. I'm married. She started to unilaterally change the rules once we had kids and the house in the 'burbs. That crap messed with my head for a while. But one day, I realized I no longer cared. Was kind of easy to not care since I was getting it on in the hobby with young women half my age or less. I would have thought she'd have called me out by now on the lack of action at home, but nope. If she hasn't questioned me by now, she's probably not going to so long as I remain discreet.[/QUOTE]That could be my story. My wife started to loose interest in her late forties. She turned of the tap because she didn't want to get pregnant and didn't want to use birth control. I figured I could hold out until after she went through the change. That plan worked not at all. After the change she just lost all interest in intimacy. I found this site and have been able to take care of my needs and she is perfectly happy with our platonic relationship. I really believe that the hobby has saved my marriage. Very strange but true. I didn't sign up to lead the life of a monk, so now I have a great relationship, kind of friends without benefits. I just outsource that part of my life.
[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3756442]That could be my story. My wife started to loose interest in her late forties. She turned of the tap because she didn't want to get pregnant and didn't want to use birth control. I figured I could hold out until after she went through the change. That plan worked not at all. After the change she just lost all interest in intimacy. I found this site and have been able to take care of my needs and she is perfectly happy with our platonic relationship. I really believe that the hobby has saved my marriage. Very strange but true. I didn't sign up to lead the life of a monk, so now I have a great relationship, kind of friends without benefits. I just outsource that part of my life.[/QUOTE]The hobby only saves a marriage if the wife knows and agrees to it. If she doesn't know and would divorce you if this knowledge came to light then that's not saving anything. Most guys just don't want to pay the price to be free.
Single, attractive women have been giving men Blowjobs, endless sex, and the occasional backdoor to make them fall in love and marry them. As we all know The Blowjobs are the first to stop, we may still get a half hearted blowie or a pump or two into that sweet butt on our birthdays but even those fall off. It's not long before "hurry up" "make it quick" and "are you done yet" is replaced by complete lack of any kind of sexual activity. It's no wonder the "Oldest Profession" has been around for so long, one thing is certain if the wife won't give it up, plenty of others will.
When I submitted my post, I had second thoughts. This has been a fun and light hearted forum. When no one posted anything for a couple of days I really regretted it, thinking I was a 'killjoy' or mood killer. It's nice to know I'm not the only fisherman in the boat.
Sidney Biddle Barrows, aka the Mayflower Madam, was the owner of one of the most successful escort agencies ever (you should take the time to learn about her if you're not familiar). On an interview on William Shatners' talk show, she looked Capt. Kirk in the eye and said, "These men love their wives and families and don't want to leave them, but there are some things that they're not getting at home and don't want to spend their lives without. And the smart ones seek out the services of escorts, as girlfriends tend to blow up their lives and escorts know the deal". Ms. Barrows also pretty much invented GFE, encouraging her escorts to provide 'GFE' service saying these men just want to be loved. Dennis Hof, brothel owner, said on a talk show that if wives would take care of their husbands, you would immediately put me out of business.
Okay, enough of this shit. Let's get back to having a good time! Be safe and have fun, Ace.
Yesterday and today I have reached out to at least 6 different girls both days only to get no response or a garbled text back and then nothing. I really like the ones that say in there ads don't waste my time text when you are ready to come. LOL.
[QUOTE=Gunman2013;3758134]Yesterday and today I have reached out to at least 6 different girls both days only to get no response or a garbled text back and then nothing. I really like the ones that say in there ads don't waste my time text when you are ready to come. LOL.[/QUOTE]Very simply it is too many guys and not enough girls. Supply and demand. When I got into this, it was the other way, but not any more. Plus when I got into this less than half the girls had a habit, now most do. Which means if they have money they are enjoying a high instead of making money,
ST.
[QUOTE=KMaltese;3758489]I'm just having a bad day in the hobby. After no luck with LaceyFoxx I contacted Hannah. She responded quickly and we set a time. She then requested a face photo, which I sent, but she went completely dark after that. Now I know I'm not a great looking guy but I didn't think I was that ugly. Oh well, on to the next attempt.[/QUOTE]So now your photo belongs to a hooker. On her phone no less. Why would anyone send a photo to someone they don't know who makes their living fucking strangers for, cash? What is she loses that phone? What if uncle LEO gets a hold of it? God gave us a brain for a reason, you should use it.
Golfguy, playing through.
[QUOTE=GolfGuy;3758501]So now your photo belongs to a hooker. On her phone no less. Why would anyone send a photo to someone they don't know who makes their living fucking strangers for, cash? What is she loses that phone? What if uncle LEO gets a hold of it? God gave us a brain for a reason, you should use it.
Golfguy, playing through.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't send a photo of myself to a hooker just because either she wants my money or not, if you're a true hooker you're going for the money and what I look like shouldn't matter. I do know that Hannah won't see AA men he doesn't mention if he is AA or not. But Golfguy Uncle LEO having her phone with his picture means and is nothing. Unless they are involved with a felony or something crazy is just another picture. He said he got stood up so if you could explain what Uncle LEO would do with his picture I'd sure like to know. Sometimes I think people believe the police have nothing to do but run down some photo in a hookers phone, now if something grave happened to her that's one thing, but just a photo because they caught her hooking and he wasn't there sorry just another photo. HL29.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3758551]I wouldn't send a photo of myself to a hooker just because either she wants my money or not, if you're a true hooker you're going for the money and what I look like shouldn't matter. I do know that Hannah won't see AA men he doesn't mention if he is AA or not. But Golfguy Uncle LEO having her phone with his picture means and is nothing. Unless they are involved with a felony or something crazy is just another picture. He said he got stood up so if you could explain what Uncle LEO would do with his picture I'd sure like to know. Sometimes I think people believe the police have nothing to do but run down some photo in a hookers phone, now if something grave happened to her that's one thing, but just a photo because they caught her hooking and he wasn't there sorry just another photo. HL29.[/QUOTE]If they bust her and find 20 guys photos connected with numbers it would be easy for them to identify him as a known John in any other stings they may run. Especially with all the cameras everywhere (like hotels that have prostitute problems) and with facial recognition technologies well, pretty much anything can happen. I'd they seize her phone they could find you and question you which certainly wouldn't be a pleasant experience, especially if you were married.
Golfguy.