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[QUOTE=OPIllini;1397689]As of February 2, 2012 Lavish's license is revoked. Also Eclipse and Zenobia's are on this week's hearing list. Seems to me Uncle Leo's paying more attention to the LMPs in Chicago.[/QUOTE]I noticed SUNKISS spa on the list, which supposedly offers no extras. Yet, they still end up on the list. Maybe at least theyll start to realize they can make more money quicker by just being what they advertise as since they will get shut down regardless of compliance.
[QUOTE=OPIllini;1352233]I've seen it and mostly it's spot on. But I, too, wonder if it's another trap that LEO has set up for those who post there.[/QUOTE]Well, it looks like RubMaps, which has free for a long time, is going to start charging for 'premium' content ($14. 95 per month). I think I'm going to cancel my membership there because IMHO mongers should NOT have to pay to get inside info on MPs / providers. That's why I'm appreciative of this site; Jackson allows us to use private messaging so that we can share details without saying too much on the forums and putting our ATFs in jeopardy.
[QUOTE=Westend Monger; 1396812]Good afternoon Gents! Just moved to the Oak Brook area and I'm looking for AMP's and incall providers near me. I am a senior member in good standing from VA. Hoping the locals here will lend some helpful advice. I have read through several pages of several forums, but I don't know the area well enough to know what's near me and what isn't- so please don't "RTFF" me.
Thanks!
Maple my favorite out west. RTFF still great advice for this area!
CTm
I haven't gotten around to responding to anyone. I'm sorry but I really haven't had time to but I did check my inbox and damn about 20 members wanted info. As I said in my report ill be responding to seniors at least to most of them. But before please keep in mind that YMMV and as I said and it's something you'll see for yourself if you go to the place why I say that she is one of the oldest when compared to the rest that work there. You probably can't get anymore than a HJ from any of them. Anyways ill be sending the name of the place and the name of the woman. Sorry but I forgot to ask her what days she's there as I wasn't really planning on going back soon as my funds are still not great.
Stay safe
[QUOTE=Casper27; 1397783]I haven't gotten around to responding to anyone. I'm sorry but I really haven't had time to but I did check my inbox and damn about 20 members wanted info. As I said in my report ill be responding to seniors at least to most of them. But before please keep in mind that YMMV and as I said and it's something you'll see for yourself if you go to the place why I say that she is one of the oldest when compared to the rest that work there. You probably can't get anymore than a HJ from any of them. Anyways ill be sending the name of the place and the name of the woman. Sorry but I forgot to ask her what days she's there as I wasn't really planning on going back soon as my funds are still not great.
Stay safe[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Check your mail.
[QUOTE=Eddinger;1397717]I noticed SUNKISS spa on the list, which supposedly offers no extras. Yet, they still end up on the list. Maybe at least theyll start to realize they can make more money quicker by just being what they advertise as since they will get shut down regardless of compliance.[/QUOTE]This is not a surprise. Just about all reports say you get good-excellent massage and leave smiling and happy.
[QUOTE=OPIllini;1397689]As of February 2, 2012 Lavish's license is revoked. Also Eclipse and Zenobia's are on this week's hearing list. Seems to me Uncle Leo's paying more attention to the LMPs in Chicago.[/QUOTE]There is a two mile area in the city which had 11 MP last year about this time. 4 have been revoked. I don't know why another closed. But 5 closed in the last year. That leaves 6 standing. Out of those 6, 2 are on the list, and one was on the list. In about the last 2 years certain kinds of MP probably were targets (Rose, Relax, China and so on) , that was the first round. Now the another type is the target. Just look at the different massage sites you can see what was similar about most of the MP that were closed, and that are now being closed. The number of walk in MPs went down, but the number of "call in" MPs went up. And it looks like LMPs are taking a big hit on the "walk ins".
[QUOTE=Eddinger;1397717]I noticed SUNKISS spa on the list, which supposedly offers no extras. Yet, they still end up on the list. Maybe at least theyll start to realize they can make more money quicker by just being what they advertise as since they will get shut down regardless of compliance.[/QUOTE]You're right Eddinger; I just noticed they had hearings the week of February 21. Good pickup. THAT is a surprise because like you said they're reportedly legit.
[QUOTE=OPIllini;1399421]You're right Eddinger; I just noticed they had hearings the week of February 21. Good pickup. THAT is a surprise because like you said they're reportedly legit.[/QUOTE]If you look at my older thread, I reported that one of my monger buds was getting a massage when the place was raided and all the girls ran out the back. They may be legit but none of their therapist had licenses hence the raid.
[QUOTE=Sticky Rice;1399459]If you look at my older thread, I reported that one of my monger buds was getting a massage when the place was raided and all the girls ran out the back. They may be legit but none of their therapist had licenses hence the raid.[/QUOTE]Anybody know if Sunkiss is on the list because of MTs with no licenses or because of extras? The list posting of the hearing dates for all the MPs on the web dontt say what the violation is.
[QUOTE=Sticky Rice;1399459]If you look at my older thread, I reported that one of my monger buds was getting a massage when the place was raided and all the girls ran out the back. They may be legit but none of their therapist had licenses hence the raid.[/QUOTE]Does anybody know if the reason for Sunkiss being on the list is MTs with no licenses or extras? The hearing notice on the web for all MPs don't list the violations, how do you find out why MPS on the list?
It's been a long time! I have left the mongering seen for a little while. Just because it has been getting risky and a little boring as well. I usually only see my regulars. But, I had to take a break. So, I decided to call up one of my regulars the other day. And all I can say is wow. She was 10 times better then the last time I have seen her. I guess, getting experience helps, LOL. I really never go to this place for massages. Except when one certain gal was there. But she left this place a while a go. Anyways. I paid $.20 for the hour. She is definitely not the clock watcher. Actually they have to knock on the door to tell her time is up. EVERYTIME. Tip was. 60 and all I can say everything and I mean everything was on the menu. Only complete GFE masseuse that I know. Well worth every penny. This is all I will broadcast on here. Due to the fact, we are losing great quality people because we broadcast a little to much on here. I am willing to trade and discuss with only long time seniors I can trust.
HAPPY MONGERING AND BE SAFE OUT THERE!
Just sharing information so we all know. 1. She is not the one on the add. Fake pictures. I stayed because it was an appointment that was late at night. 2. It was not a message. It was a body rub only. She was more like a very curvy asian with big D's. She was good on performance. Out of $.2 not bad for a quick one. Not going back.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-touch-massage-29/10883427[/url]
Visited there last Friday around 3pm, business as usual, and it was busy. Waited 30mins in the car before going in. Wanted to go to. 5/30mins but it does not include TS. End up paying. 6/45mins with TS + $.3 tips.
Anyone ever run into Coco from Seven Stars or did she disappear once that places shuttered?
[QUOTE=Davidonecall; 1401547]Just sharing information so we all know. 1. She is not the one on the add. Fake pictures. I stayed because it was an appointment that was late at night. 2. It was not a message. It was a body rub only. She was more like a very curvy asian with big D's. She was good on performance. Out of $.2 not bad for a quick one. Not going back.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-touch-massage-29/10883427[/url][/QUOTE]This ad says the location is 38th & honore. That is right around the corner from the wolcott location
Advertised. Is this the same location. 38xx s wolcott?
It sounds different the phone number is not the same. The place on wolcott is in a downstairs location
With a massage table in a side room. I will probably try some time if they are not the same
[QUOTE=Toosweet1975; 1401307]It's been a long time! I have left the mongering seen for a little while. Just because it has been getting risky and a little boring as well. I usually only see my regulars. But, I had to take a break. So, I decided to call up one of my regulars the other day. And all I can say is wow. She was 10 times better then the last time I have seen her. I guess, getting experience helps, LOL. I really never go to this place for massages. Except when one certain gal was there. But she left this place a while a go. Anyways. I paid $.20 for the hour. She is definitely not the clock watcher. Actually they have to knock on the door to tell her time is up. EVERYTIME. Tip was. 60 and all I can say everything and I mean everything was on the menu. Only complete GFE masseuse that I know. Well worth every penny. This is all I will broadcast on here. Due to the fact, we are losing great quality people because we broadcast a little to much on here. I am willing to trade and discuss with only long time seniors I can trust.
HAPPY MONGERING AND BE SAFE OUT THERE![/QUOTE]This is an excellent place for information but as you spead the information to mongers then Uncle Loe gets the information then shuts them down. I too have ran across some nice hotties that I would like to share with the board but then Uncle Leo with just take that information and harass the women. Hard decisions sometimes!
It is a different location. I have been to both locations and they are different. Wolcott have a message table but not honore.
[QUOTE=Skonsk; 1402434]This ad says the location is 38th & honore. That is right around the corner from the wolcott location
Advertised. Is this the same location. 38xx s wolcott?
It sounds different the phone number is not the same. The place on wolcott is in a downstairs location
With a massage table in a side room. I will probably try some time if they are not the same[/QUOTE]
Was driving on Oakton. Not sure what the cross street was. Just west of Harlem or Waukegan Road.
Saw a sign that said Kings Massage. I think it was kings ). Anyway it was right before a highschool.
Drove by and didn't check it out cause I would rather go to asian apts. Looking for full service extras and not just a happy ending.
Was at work and an associatte said they provide full serive and you have a choice of girls.
Anyone been there or have any intel. PM if you don't want to post.
I haven't been there before but one of my "go to" masseuses highly recommends it. I didn't think there were extras provided there; just a full legit spa. Please backchannel me if I'm mistaken. That would be awesome if I'm wrong!
[url]http://www.kingspa.com/[/url]
BJ001.
[QUOTE=GoldenGreek; 1402977]Was driving on Oakton. Not sure what the cross street was. Just west of Harlem or Waukegan Road.
Saw a sign that said Kings Massage. I think it was kings ). Anyway it was right before a highschool.
Drove by and didn't check it out cause I would rather go to asian apts. Looking for full service extras and not just a happy ending.
Was at work and an associatte said they provide full serive and you have a choice of girls.
Anyone been there or have any intel. PM if you don't want to post.[/QUOTE]
This is the place next to H-Mart. It is a legit spa, largely serving a Korean / Chinese customer base. Whole families go there and spend the day.
Any action there would be very surprising.
[QUOTE=GoldenGreek; 1402977]Was driving on Oakton. Not sure what the cross street was. Just west of Harlem or Waukegan Road.
Saw a sign that said Kings Massage. I think it was kings ). Anyway it was right before a highschool.
Drove by and didn't check it out cause I would rather go to asian apts. Looking for full service extras and not just a happy ending.
Was at work and an associatte said they provide full serive and you have a choice of girls.
Anyone been there or have any intel. PM if you don't want to post.[/QUOTE]
If you are a monger, do not go looking here. Men, women, and families go; people often stay for hours. Full service, right, for a legit spa. Seriously, a great place to take a date, relax, get an awesome massage, good Korean food, etc. On the west coast, especially LA, you can find places like this. It fits in perfectly with the way massage is going in Chicagoland.
CTm
TOFT. Fellas this place is legit period. Not for mongers. Its $25 just for admission $70 for accupressure massage for one hour and $90 for swedish. You can't pick your massuese and you need an appoitment. They have a series of saunas in the common area where you can go with the other guests and everyone where's a t-shirt and shorts uniform. They have a lounge and movie room along with steam showers in the mens facilities which I didn't partake. Its quite an elaborate spa. Just not for mongers. Upon a google search I did see a review from a gay site that some action can be had. For gays."Not that theres anything wrong with that." During the massage you required to wear the shorts and draped the whole time. Not sure swedish is any different. Also the massage is done with the doors open. One interesting thing was that the attendant asked if I was there before. I said yes and she asked if I went thru the back or left side. Its appears the swedish is done in the back. Dunno if you bastards try this place get the swedish so we can rule this place out as bullshit as far as extras. The only other intresting part is that its 24 hour. So perhaps the rules are laxed after midnite or so.
If Kings Spa is "near a high school" then don't even think about asking for a happy ending. That could get you a felony charge with very serious and expensive legal problems.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tui-namassage-u-will-find-our-touch-delightfully-soothing-and-powerfully-healing-23/10953445[/url]
No action here, but a seriously good massage though. Only 1 lady though.
Is it true that if a spa gets busted and the owner does not do any work there, the owner can easily avoid liability by having the MTs sign a contract saying they will only do massage?
I heard this but sounds like bananas.
[QUOTE=Deizel5; 1405054]Is it true that if a spa gets busted and the owner does not do any work there, the owner can easily avoid liability by having the MTs sign a contract saying they will only do massage?
I heard this but sounds like bananas.[/QUOTE]As an owner of the business registered with the state, the owner would be responsible for anything that happens with that business, including what the independent technicians do.
Its like when you hire a general contractor and he gives the work to his subs, if hissuns mess up the work, he's still liable.
Are those the girls as advertised?
[QUOTE=Mecca1; 1404526][url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tui-namassage-u-will-find-our-touch-delightfully-soothing-and-powerfully-healing-23/10953445[/url]
No action here, but a seriously good massage though. Only 1 lady though.[/QUOTE]
Needed a massage and have been here once before, so went on a sunny weekend late morning. No appointment needed. Passed on making any special MT request, saw 2 girls there. Neither was the same as the previous time, better younger. My first time was early last year, older 40's for sure, flat ass, on the freakin phonce talkin to one of you guys. No name. But massage was legit. And she greased my tools, gushed white lithium grease all over the palace, hot towels for the king, $ lighter at the end of the day.
This time met Kim, asian korean from CA pushing 40, black tights on slender with a dress, no bra, wears hot pink, some flab midsection. Divorced, nice attitude and personality, not jaded. EXCELLENT (9/10) massage! I have a back like a board and she walked on it using balance straps and all of her weight, about 130, 5'5". She is good, and I did get the TS but I'm not the TS type and its not my thing. No play.
So after the back walk deep tissue comes the hot oil swedish and a steam towel. I am left to relax a minute or two and on return the steam towel comes off and a pat dry. She then does the flying lotus soft touch thing, with tips of fingers all over my backside, that is sensual and I have to readjust something underside. Flip. Oil. About 50 strokes and moby dick spouted. I didn't roam this one. Nice foot massage with finger snapping the toes for a final relax. 7.4
[QUOTE=Sticky Rice; 1405698]As an owner of the business registered with the state, the owner would be responsible for anything that happens with that business, including what the independent technicians do.
Its like when you hire a general contractor and he gives the work to his subs, if hissuns mess up the work, he's still liable.[/QUOTE]Not exactly, Sticky. Were it that way, the owners of Fedex and UPS would be criminally responsible for the drugs and other contraband that get shipped that way and the phone company would be liable for all the defamation and harassment, and hotel owners would be responsible for prostitution despite their honest ingnorance of it.
Criminal responsibility for any serious crime requires two things. A forbidden act and an improper mental state, an intention or a knowledge of certain circumstances. Lawyers call those two things an Actus Reus and a Mens Rea, and until they come together, there is no crime. Knowledge and intent are usually proven by circumstantial evidence of that knowledge or intent, unless the defendant is dumb enough to have said it out loud to a witness, to have been wiretapped saying it, or has made a statement to the officers.
No, some contract isn't enough for the owner to walk if the circumstances establish his guilty knowledge and intent, and in fact, such an agreement just might get shoved up his tailpipe in court as evidence of his knowledge and a flimsy attempt to circumvent the law.
Some serious crimes in some places don't require a Mens Rea, like statutory rape in a few states like Florida, New York and Utah, and it's seldom required in minor traffic and regulatory offenses, but for heavy-duty crimes in general, such as pandering, it's essential.
[QUOTE=XXXlaw; 1405866]Not exactly, Sticky. Were it that way, the owners of Fedex and UPS would be criminally responsible for the drugs and other contraband that get shipped that way and the phone company would be liable for all the defamation and harassment, and hotel owners would be responsible for prostitution despite their honest ingnorance of it.
Criminal responsibility for any serious crime requires two things. A forbidden act and an improper mental state, an intention or a knowledge of certain circumstances. Lawyers call those two things an Actus Reus and a Mens Rea, and until they come together, there is no crime. Knowledge and intent are usually proven by circumstantial evidence of that knowledge or intent, unless the defendant is dumb enough to have said it out loud to a witness, to have been wiretapped saying it, or has made a statement to the officers.
No, some contract isn't enough for the owner to walk if the circumstances establish his guilty knowledge and intent, and in fact, such an agreement just might get shoved up his tailpipe in court as evidence of his knowledge and a flimsy attempt to circumvent the law.
Some serious crimes in some places don't require a Mens Rea, like statutory rape in a few states like Florida, New York and Utah, and it's seldom required in minor traffic and regulatory offenses, but for heavy-duty crimes in general, such as pandering, it's essential.[/QUOTE]Check you inbox Email
Where can I find AMT's that provide actual massages and treat 'extras' as just that; extras?
I've been a lurker for a little while now and want to thank all the seniors who help the less-experienced navigate around the city. With all the caution caused by Uncle L lately, maybe nowis a good time to pose this question.
I've been to a handful of locations so far, and each one seems to specialize only in finger dancing. While all lovely and good, it seems to be far easier to get a handshake than find decent deep-tissue work. I do go to legit places for LMT-quality sessions when I have knots or are cramping, but flirting with dudes is just not my scene. I'd rather have a session with a cute little asian who knows what she is doing and see where my milage gets me.
[QUOTE=Nighthawk55;1153103][url]http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/bacp/supp_info/weekly_hearing_schedules.html[/url][/QUOTE]Today (3/20) Oki Doki's got a hearing with the city, and later this week (3/23) it's Sunkiss' turn. Sunkiss surprises me because though I've never been there I've always known it to be legit. Let's hope both places can stay open as long as possible because let's be honest, once a MP is on the Hit List, they're goners. It's just a matter of how long the owners can stall and stave off revocation before the judge says 'enough's enough'.
[QUOTE=OPIllini;1407350]Today (3/20) Oki Doki's got a hearing with the city, and later this week (3/23) it's Sunkiss' turn. Sunkiss surprises me because though I've never been there I've always known it to be legit. Let's hope both places can stay open as long as possible because let's be honest, once a MP is on the Hit List, they're goners. It's just a matter of how long the owners can stall and stave off revocation before the judge says 'enough's enough'.[/QUOTE]Let's be honest, when Rahmbo or his police chief Charlie McCarthy say to the boys "Go shut down some massage parlors" just WHO do you think they're going to shut down? If you think it's going to be the ones that make a good buck and are, shall we say, openhanded with the boys in blue then you don't know Chicago cops. They've shut down (or driven out of business) at least one completely legit shop that I know of (TLC88). It makes it look like they're doing something, but doesn't effect their 'income'.
Heard good things, anyone else?
[QUOTE=Hooker;1408804]Heard good things, anyone else?[/QUOTE]Which one are you talking about?
Sorry I'm a newbie and looking forward to my future.
Mongers as well as relive some not so distant past it's in hickory just east of Roberts on 95th heard it was run by Asians which is always nice but not sure of name, maybe 7735 w 95th I'll try and get back that wy Again and get a name soon.
[QUOTE=DundzPoker;1408924]Which one are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
Went to Sunkiss recently. Business as usual. Saw Eva who was a tall thin gal with a cute body. Couldn't speak English very well. She gave an awesome massage but didn't offer extras and didn't ask or push for it. Connie was up front and she looked tired and stressed but still looked cute as hell. Would love to hot that sometime.
Anyone heard the results of today's Sunkiss hearing? (Actually, there were two cases.)
If it was bad news, how long can a spa remain open?
I visited these two spas recently.
Forget the girl's name at Harvest. Solid AMP performance, ok TS and massage, fully clothed HE. I was satisfied with the experience, and tipped the standard $.4. And then the drama began. She wouldn't let me leave unless I tipped her more. I asked her to back off or I would not be able to come back. She insisted and recruited the help of another therapist to shake me down. I can be very generous, but tip on my own terms. I don't plan to be back.
Oriental Spa is the former Seven Heaven, on Ashland and Augusta. Beautiful girl, with long hair down to her hips. One of the better massages I've had in a while. Actually, an excellent massage. They charge $.2 extra for a TS. Because I am old, I had some trouble with the ending, so she worked hard. We both left happy.