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[QUOTE=PhatDaty; 1719585]We are seeing a whole bunch of this lately, and given our incredibly fair market, one has to ponder why anyone would be scanning the ads on this board and then feel the need to make some derogatory comment or another directed at a provider, usually in the wrong thread, about their rates being entirely high?

Why do you think this is happening?

My only thought is that the dudes that do this have premature ejaculation problems, and they are worried that laying down $200 to $300 per hour would result in six minutes of fucking and forty-four minutes of awkward silence.[/QUOTE]Well personally I feel like if a gent is willing to give whats requested then a little patience and dedication isn't much to ask for. Theres alot of poor providers lately so guys are not so willing to do whats asked but at the same its so many that try to get more in 15 / than can fit. When all he would have to do is just give whats asked. I'm sure she would be willing to give more as well.

[QUOTE=Dick Her Down;1718847]I had a dream with her yesterday. Looks better in person then the pictures. She's worth more then her rate. Cute, sexy body big juicy perfect perky titties, curvy body and nicely trimmed. She has a great attitude very sweet will convernsate with you. No rush and works till you're pleased. Great BBBJ and tight twat will let you handle your business in any position. Definately a repeat.[/QUOTE]Agreed agreed agreed and I concur. As stated before some of the best natural breasts you'll see on a lady. I got a room and wasn't rushed and no clock watching at all. A definite would see again for me. Hopefully per our conversation once she gets shyt straightened out the teeth will be taken care of. Maybe just a tiny bit hood but has a wonderful attitude.

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[QUOTE=PhatDaty; 1719585]We are seeing a whole bunch of this lately, and given our incredibly fair market, one has to ponder why anyone would be scanning the ads on this board and then feel the need to make some derogatory comment or another directed at a provider, usually in the wrong thread, about their rates being entirely high?

Why do you think this is happening?

My only thought is that the dudes that do this have premature ejaculation problems, and they are worried that laying down $200 to $300 per hour would result in six minutes of fucking and forty-four minutes of awkward silence.[/QUOTE]The fact is a girl can charge whatever she wants. If her rate was too high for what she is offering then she wouldn't get any business. These girls are clearly making enough money because they are still here and their rates are not going down. That is proof enough that their rates are not too high.

There are some girls on here that are just not my type. I wouldn't see them for any price. Since they are not what I'm into I'm not qualified to make any comments on them. Would you ask a guy who hates beaches for his opinion on South Beach? Not if you want any useful information. The only reason to write something bad about a provider is if you had a bad experience with her.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty; 1719490]First of all this is the proper place to put your post, not in Escort Review section. The Escort Review Section is reserved for friggin' reviews, or exchanges of information cogent to the review that is posted.

Second, SinfulDreams (Ally) has a right to choose to charge whatever she feels the market can bear. She sure seems to get plenty of positive reviews, so apparently, her business model is sound. I have seen her a couple of times, and I can tell you that she provides a good session. I just choose not to see her any longer for personal reasons (that are between her and I) , that have nothing to do with her rate or the quality of the session she provides. I promise you she will fuck your brains out.

PD[/QUOTE]I agree with Mr. DATY.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;1719585]My only thought is that the dudes that do this have premature ejaculation problems, and they are worried that laying down $200 to $300 per hour would result in six minutes of fucking and forty-four minutes of awkward silence.[/QUOTE]I'm kinda shy, so awkward silence is something I expect. Heh. Not that I would begrudge a provider to charge what they wanted. If it's too high, I'll move and to someone else, or only see them as special occasion when I can save up for it.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;1719964]I'd thought about by the ladies giving a by the inch discount but that might have made some guys really depressed about not being created equal[/QUOTE]If you're going to pay by the inch, do you pay before or after the session? That could mean a big price difference.

ED states that "these girls are clearly making enough money because they are still here and their rates are not going down. That is proof enough that their rates are not too high."

Possibly faulty logic, good sir. If they were making (and saving!) enough money, I suspect many would be out of here in a flash so they wouldn't have to suffer the presence of the fat, old, ill mannered, disgusting, perverted individuals who often seem to populate this activity.

On the other side of the equation, regardless of price, most of these ladies do not seem to understand the simple premise that they would maximize their revenue not by maintaining an unacceptably high (for most) price, but rather by lowering their price to the point where they maximize their volume, and thus revenue. Stated more simply, they sit by the phone waiting for a very small segment of the market to call and pay their price to support an aura of exclusivity when they could be working their tails off (pun intended) at a somewhat lower hourly or half hourly rate. Again, such a pricing strategy might enable many to retire well before their charms wear too thin and before they reach the point that the mere act of answering another call repels them!

[QUOTE=EricDraven; 1720066]The fact is a girl can charge whatever she wants. If her rate was too high for what she is offering then she wouldn't get any business. These girls are clearly making enough money because they are still here and their rates are not going down. That is proof enough that their rates are not too high.

There are some girls on here that are just not my type. I wouldn't see them for any price. Since they are not what I'm into I'm not qualified to make any comments on them. Would you ask a guy who hates beaches for his opinion on South Beach? Not if you want any useful information. The only reason to write something bad about a provider is if you had a bad experience with her.[/QUOTE]

I think most agree that fee discretion is a womans choice to set and a mans choice to accept or reject. However there is one more variable that needs to be in the equation. Not all ladies stick to their fee scale. Some advertise one fee then adjust according to their needs. If business has been good they might lower to attract new clients or they may also lower their fees for their regulars so they don't stray. It has been an option practiced for a long time on other boards. It is not poor practice to ask for a package or a deal and it is the ladies right to say yes or no. Just thought it should be considered. If a man can get total GFE from a lady who is a benjamin less and can see her more often then it is an option for consideration. Happy Easter

[QUOTE=Sinful Dreams;1720327]I agree, and once you are a regular of mine, I do discount our sessions, and there are quite a few who get that gift. But a regular doesn't constitute as seeing one or two times. Just an FYI as some may think.[/QUOTE]When high quality ladies as your self are letting us in the door for much less if we see them regularly. Which begs the question, is there any set number of visits to be considered a regular and if so, what would they be. Most men love ladies Smart men love ladies who allow them to see them at a rate they can be regulars. Your point is true and well taken

[QUOTE=Puntang Man;1720489]When high quality ladies as your self are letting us in the door for much less if we see them regularly. Which begs the question, is there any set number of visits to be considered a regular and if so, what would they be. Most men love ladies Smart men love ladies who allow them to see them at a rate they can be regulars. Your point is true and well taken[/QUOTE]

I don't think it would be fair for any provider to be expeted to say,"See me for X amount of times and you will get discounts.". This is not Subway where one used a punch card to earn points towards a free sub.

As previously stated, a discount is a [i]gift[/i], and as such it can be given anytime solely upon the discretion of the person giving the gift. I'm sure if Ally meets a gentleman who she would like to see more often for any reason, (funny, charming, intelligent, has the best shaped penis on the planet and it hits her G-spot perfectly each time, etc.) , she would be inclined to bestow that [i]gift[/i] sooner than some guy who was a complete douche, had bad hygene, always shows up late, etc.

Discounts are earned in a multitude of ways, and can be rescinded anytime.

[QUOTE=Tuffy12;1720307]On the other side of the equation, regardless of price, most of these ladies do not seem to understand the simple premise that they would maximize their revenue not by maintaining an unacceptably high (for most) price, but rather by lowering their price to the point where they maximize their volume, and thus revenue. Stated more simply, they sit by the phone waiting for a very small segment of the market to call and pay their price to support an aura of exclusivity when they could be working their tails off (pun intended) at a somewhat lower hourly or half hourly rate.[/QUOTE]Two Words For You: [b]Justin Verlander[/b]

He is going to be making $875, 000 every five days during baseball season!

People are willing to pay a guy that kind of money because his arm is highly desired. Some providers have highly desired punanies, and can command what might seem an outrageous fortune for their services, but hinting at a salary cap, or how they should market themselves and craft their business model is about as futile as bitching that there is no salary cap in baseball and Justin Verlander ought to lower his price and pitch more games. We live in a capitalistic economy and the market determines rate. Just like some teams are willing to pay players these outrageous salaries, somebody out there is paying these ladies these rates, so more power to them.

I have always thought professional athletes are kissing cousins to professional escorts as both are using their bodies to entertain other human beings for money.

When I was young and stupid in the hobby, on more than one occasion absolutely wasted ridiculous sums of money on more than a few famous porn stars. Your jaw would drop at the names and the fees. If I could go back in time, I would slap myself in the head, because other than the namebrand novelty, the reality is some of our mid-level providers are just as pretty and some of them fuck better! When you pair that with the notion that one session with a "celebrity" could have bought me more than a handful with a Cincinnati gal that was just as hot and maybe even more skilled.

As a person that sets my own fees for the things I do, I fully understand when to sell high and low, and most of these ladies do too. We don't have to explain to our clients why we set our rates the way we do, or in any way take their advice, but a smart contractor in any business is always in tune with what the market will bear for your services.

In other words, this whole discussion is about as useful as Sisyphus rolling the big boulder up a hill. Those that question rates will never get a satisfactory answer, nor will anything they post impact a lady's business model. All you can do is vote with your wallet, and hope other guys are doing the same, and let the forces of the market do the rest.

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[QUOTE=D Nut; 1720541]I don't think it would be fair for any provider to be expeted to say,"See me for X amount of times and you will get discounts.". This is not Subway where one used a punch card to earn points towards a free sub.

As previously stated, a discount is a [i]gift[/i], and as such it can be given anytime solely upon the discretion of the person giving the gift. I'm sure if Ally meets a gentleman who she would like to see more often for any reason, (funny, charming, intelligent, has the best shaped penis on the planet and it hits her G-spot perfectly each time, etc.) , she would be inclined to bestow that [i]gift[/i] Sooner than some guy who was a complete douche, had bad hygene, always shows up late, etc.

Discounts are earned in a multitude of ways, and can be rescinded anytime.[/QUOTE]Many ladies want regulars for assurance of revenue. However WHAT IS A REGULAR customer in numbers of visits to ladies. It varies. Ladies should chime in on this but do agree with DN that this is not a bid for bootie proposition. Speaking just for me, ask me what I want and I will tell you. If you can provide it then let's talk particulars, how many times I have to see you, package deals, do we have the same likes. With the multitude of "good" providers subjective designation, bartering is not out of the question. If I am going to spend my resources it will be for what I enjoy or I will say no. If the lady is agreeable yes is a good start. If not, then there are other options and boundaries to explore. No disrespect to ladies. I have what they want, they may have and provide what I need. Matching up menu with resources is what it is all about. Have a Happy Easter ladies and gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Puntang Man;1720576]However WHAT IS A REGULAR customer in numbers of visits to ladies.[/QUOTE]That will vary not only lady to lady, but perhaps lady and client to lady and client. I would never expect that to be announced. I have several arrangements with ladies I see regularly, and I keep my mouth shut about that rate. I am not sure you should expect a published answer on this, as such arrangements, like it or not, are very much YMMMV.

I know many of you disagree with my approach to the hobby (see my post down in the rant / rave / opinion section about the guide to to ultimate GFE) , ut I will bet you dollars to donuts, I can get better sessions, and better prices just based on my frequency, and on treating them well.

If you are trying to get a better rate or become a regular, my general advice to any guy that will listen, is to start with some good old fashioned kindness. Yes, dollars are king in this industry, but you would be surprised at what a small token / gesture of kindness will accomplish. Being a decent human being (and a clean one) that helps a lady whistle while she works will get you better traction every day of the week. This isn't just in the hobby. It works in every sector of the service industry. I am also nice to my plumbers, electricians, and HVAC people. I offer them a cold beverage when they are working. I make sure they are comfortable. If they are working long or hard, I buy them lunch etc.

People might think this is stupid, but it works. I get charged the same rates for service on my home without increases for over ten years from these folks, because I am a great, regular customer. Not only is the price good, the workmanship is always outstanding. I have found this is also true in the hobby. Folks can whine that this isn't fair, but it really is how the world works. If guys are expecting their dollars or arrangements to be the same as everybody else, they are in for a real big surprise, except they probably aren't going to know, because sure am not going to ruin a good thing I have going with a provider by making such great deals public. I am however willing to share the secret of my success, and that is treat the ladies well, and you will be treated well in return.

[QUOTE=Maloney5354; 1718360]I tend to agree with all the comments about this girl! She defiantly doesn't know the meaning of spinner! That aside the only reason that she keeps capturing my interest are those wonderfully big bobbies! If anyone has seen her recently please let us know your thoughts and experiences. From what I'm seeing on the forum just one or two good reviews and she will be a busy girl!

Safe and happy hunting![/QUOTE]She is unattractive in person bum looking teeth are mangled plus vagina has a nasty smell to it. Thats why I only got a average BJ. Only positive thing about this girl is her boobs thats all. I would choose hot squirt or someone else on backpage instead of her.