Seeking Arrangement and Other Dating Site Reviews

[QUOTE=MasterLink;5383940]With all due respect, my experiences are very different. This is not to say that you are lying or anything like that. I'm just saying in my experience, hot 20 years old, are not around for that kind of money. A couple of girls I hooked up with in the past who were young and hot and charged little money still had other issue (drugs for example). For the most part though over the last year and a half, no hot girl that is around 20 years will do anything for $200 - $300.


The pictures you posted, are they just random girls pictures??

Or are they from SA?? Cause I've never come across those girls or their profiles.

Besides that, there are a million profiles on SA showing hot ass girls who are clearly fake and scammers. So I wouldn't put too much stock just on the photos. Unless you know those girls are real?[/QUOTE]The blonde on a bottom is "Emma. " She was on SA a a few years ago. I never tried because of schedules, thought she might be a fake, and looked very young. She is now a Instagram "model" with over half a million followers. A number of fellow members reported great sessions with her at very low prices.

The girl on top left looks familiar with me. I feel as if I had interactions with her that never panned out.

I am also down on SA regarding the quality of girls and their asking prices. However I had an SB a few years ago who also is very popular on the internet. We had a multi year arrangement. She was strikingly good looking- to the point where celebrities DM her to meet up. We agreed on $200 per meet, but she later confided that she would have done it for free. She liked the sex, liked the naughtiness, liked older men.

Unfortunately I haven't seen much of this lately.

[QUOTE=MasterLink;5383940] Unless you know those girls are real?[/QUOTE]Ohh they're very real, and were on SA. Other members have had them and can talk about them (if they so desire).

They are out there, but they're not going to show up on your doorsteps knocking. It will take some work, and some luck.

Until recently, I was seeing a UConn junior for nothing more than 100-200, and sometimes just a few Nike giftcards. She runs and play basketball, so she is firm and tight everywhere.

I am sure one day you will find a young hottie and don't have to pay 500-600 for them, or whatever it is you're paying now.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;5383524]I humbly disagree. Hot 20 something year old can be had for 100-200. You just need to play your game right and know when to strike.

Here are a few samples. I am sure some mongers on here got in their panties repeatedly for under 200.[/QUOTE]The one on the right is now called Emma Kotos and banged her on the regular for $200, but she said anytime I was short on cash she was OK with $100. I ended up "short" every 3rd date or so. The one on the right was one of the 3 girls that robbed the sailor in Manchester.

[URL]https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-manchester-sailor-robbed-20180323-story.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=MyHobby;5384595]The one on the right is now called Emma Kotos and banged her on the regular for $200, but she said anytime I was short on cash she was OK with $100. I ended up "short" every 3rd date or so. The one on the right was one of the 3 girls that robbed the sailor in Manchester.

[URL]https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-manchester-sailor-robbed-20180323-story.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Too left is a robber too, I think? That's where I knew her from. I also had an agreement to meet her but things didn't feel right so I (thankfully) cancelled.

[QUOTE=Sutigel2;5384617]Too left is a robber too, I think? That's where I knew her from. I also had an agreement to meet her but things didn't feel right so I (thankfully) cancelled.[/QUOTE]Sorry meant to say one on the left. Emma is a sweet, sexy, kinky, beauty. I really miss her.

They robbed me a few years ago.

The one on the right had a profile on Seeking. She shook me down for a couple hundred. I just took the L that day and learned. The other girls were in the car. They are no good. Be careful.

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[QUOTE=MyHobby;5384595]The one on the right is now called Emma Kotos and banged her on the regular for $200, but she said anytime I was short on cash she was OK with $100. I ended up "short" every 3rd date or so. The one on the right was one of the 3 girls that robbed the sailor in Manchester.

[URL]https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-manchester-sailor-robbed-20180323-story.html[/URL][/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MyHobby;5385449]Sorry meant to say one on the left. Emma is a sweet, sexy, kinky, beauty. I really miss her.[/QUOTE]That's right. The one on the left is Alyssa. She was a good cheap fuck for about a year and a half until she started shaking guys down. I believe her gf at the time got her into robbing guys.

P.S.: The gf (5'11 slim back girl. Brae I think was her name, is now doing modeling in NYC).

Are you saying Morgan O'Connell is aka Emma Kotos? They look very different to me.

[QUOTE=MyHobby;5385449]Sorry meant to say one on the left. Emma is a sweet, sexy, kinky, beauty. I really miss her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;5387328]Are you saying Morgan O'Connell is aka Emma Kotos? They look very different to me.[/QUOTE]That's not what he's saying. If you follow the thread, another girl in that lineup of previously posted pictures is Emma.

Which one?

First he said the one on the right. That would be Braelan Debeatham. But she doesn't look like Emma to me.

Then he said the one on the left. That would be Morgan O'Connell. She also does not look like Emma to me.

The one in the center (Alyssa Sorgio) looks the most like Emma.

[QUOTE=Sutigel2;5387553]That's not what he's saying. If you follow the thread, another girl in that lineup of previously posted pictures is Emma.[/QUOTE]

Never mind. I get it now.

[QUOTE=Sutigel2;5387553]That's not what he's saying. If you follow the thread, another girl in that lineup of previously posted pictures is Emma.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sutigel2;5387553]That's not what he's saying. If you follow the thread, another girl in that lineup of previously posted pictures is Emma.[/QUOTE]Correct, Morgan is a fat assed want to be thug.

[QUOTE=BigBoss203;5380884][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bda6a525-b0ed-46dd-8f01-832ea0b7d055[/URL]

Wants $200 located in Bethel. Says she can host and drive. Likes red wine. When it comes down to setting up the date she says "Okayy sounds good, but quick question are you fine with sending at least 50 upfront? Cause a lot of people from that site like to cancel. ".

Yeah okay.[/QUOTE]Had the same experience. Asked for a pic in the hotel room holding the hotel phone to her ear. Guess what happened then? She never responded. Haha! Please report the profile.

I doubt many will read this all but I've had a ton of success on SA the past two years and wanted to write up how I've had success. This may not be the right site for this but whatever, I'm bored this morning. Might get roasted for this, might not but it has worked for me!

I have met with almost 20 women from the site over those two years and could've met with probably 10 more. I've also had 3 long term arrangements as well. Probably over half have been what some here call UTRs but I call real everyday beautiful young woman and they have been great! This is how I get THOSE women. If you are looking for STG types, don't read this and good luck. That's not why I'm writing this. This is just my personal experience and strategy and you may have a different one that works for you. Also, this takes a lot of time that you may not have. There are some women that want to get right to the point and if so, I do and will meet them quickly if the price is right. Again, this is not for them but I still go through the beginning part of this process to get them comfortable. Most are much more willing to go lower than what they want with someone they feel comfortable with! My range is 2-4 per meet and have had a lot of success with that with some really hot women and some just above average but I could tell that they would be a great time. Haha!

Here goes. YMMV!

I join the site usually every 6-8 months or so and during that time I build a literal spreadsheet of names and numbers that I get. I start by sending tons and tons of messages to women I'm interested in. It takes time but I read their profiles, mention something from it, explain I have experience, say I'm looking for something long term and ask them to review my profile. The message is very polite, not too long but not just "how are you". My profile is detailed and has the description of a real sugar daddy looking for something long term, which I am but also will do one time meets but don't say that there. Most of these women want to think they are getting what they read about, a real sugar daddy to "take care of them". They don't want to feel like hookers. This is all to get the conversation started and when it does I don't talk about sex or how much or anything like that (unless they do) and just try to have a fun conversation. I am overly nice during this time, compliment them a lot and try to make them laugh or smile. I get a lot of "awww, you're so sweet" and "You aren't like the other guys on here" comments. This gets them to drop their guard a little because they finally met one of the nice guys on SA after so many "How much for how long? "Do you do anal? "Lets meet tonight? The good ones want to be wooed.

When they ask what I'm looking for I say I like to start with per meet and have two to three dates per month. I like fun dates like dinners and drinks, shopping, outdoor activities and even weekend trips later in the arrangement and that once we build trust we can move to an allowance that works for both of us. Then I say that all my previous arrangements involved intimacy as well (I never use the term sex or anything like that just intimacy). Then I ask if that is all OK with them. Some will say sounds good but for how much and I'll ask them to move to text to have the money conversation at this point. Some will say yes and nothing else and I'll also ask to go to text so we can get to know each other further and discuss more.

When we get to text I don't go right into how much or details about what sexual stuff they are OK with unless they ask. I continue just being nice, asking about them, telling them about me, telling them about my previous long term arrangements and other stuff. After a bit of that, it's time to talk money. By this time she is already drawn in. She already knows she's dealing with a normal good guy and not an asshole who's going to just use and abuse her but instead someone who will hopefully stick around for a while. So when she says 4 or 5 or even 6-7 to meet and I say 2-3 she is much more likely to say OK or meet closer to my number because she's comfortable. Some understand that in the end she will get a lot more from one guy over time and have stability. She might get that 4-7 per meet from someone else but will have to meet with a bunch of different guys, deal with the asshole aspect on SA, that danger aspect of meeting many and the money will be more sporadic. The ones who don't realize it, I will actually say that to them and sell them on that point of stability and long term for less and it usually works but some call bullshit saying we'll meet once for low amount and I'll bolt and it's hard to get past. If they agree and they are comfortable, you can read if it's the right time to talk more sexually with them. Most will be good with it and it moves everything along.

Then I ask for a date since we've talked enough where they mostly trust me and we've had some sexual conversations and they know that the first date will end in a room. This whole process saves me from doing a bunch of meet and greets. If I think it's someone I want to start something with then I will do a little something extra for the date. One thing I've found they really like is to find out their favorite drink and then make it in the room for them. We then usually have a great and really comfortable date because of the connection we built in text. In some cases we even skip the outside stuff and I'll bring drinks and order food to the room. Most of my in room time lasts from 3-5 hours and even spent 7 hours with one woman, which was awesome. After the date, it's up in the air how it goes. Sometimes we start something, sometimes we won't. Sometimes I will see them again, sometimes I won't, sometimes they want to see me again, sometimes they won't. Either way it was a great night with a beautiful young lady for the amount I'm looking for.

Key terms to use: arrangement, intimacy, connection, trust.

Be nice, be respectful, treat like you would a woman you are trying to make your girlfriend and you will get very far.

Yes, it's a lot of work but to me personally it's worth it. I enjoy the hunt and getting to know these young women. That's not for everyone. I like the longer term stuff while sprinkling in some one nighters for some variety. For those that read this far, I'm surprised but glad you did.

[QUOTE=TSmithers24;5394453]I doubt many will read this all but I've had a ton of success on SA the past two years and wanted to write up how I've had success. This may not be the right site for this but whatever, I'm bored this morning. Might get roasted for this, might not but it has worked for me!

Be nice, be respectful, treat like you would a woman you are trying to make your girlfriend and you will get very far.

Yes, it's a lot of work but to me personally it's worth it. I enjoy the hunt and getting to know these young women. That's not for everyone. I like the longer term stuff while sprinkling in some one nighters for some variety. For those that read this far, I'm surprised but glad you did.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you won't get a bunch of "yeah, buts" piling on. You keep doing you. This is exactly the type of info needed in the SA forums. And then everyone can take away what they want and leave the rest.

Thanks for sharing!