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She has reviews on here which have her Ad attached to them. You can find those by searching for Julia or Sweetcheeks or cheeks or sweetusing the "Search Thread". I saved you some time and attached her Ad from her last review. Hopefully her digits are still good.
[QUOTE=FunInHolland;4737916]Could some one pm me digits for sweet cheeks? Need a massage and lost her number.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the review.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/emily/741265256250[/URL]
[QUOTE=SweetHemiStud;4736883]I had the pleasure of seeing Emily again. No secret that she's my ATF. I reached out to see how she was doing and if she was still working through all of this shutdown horseshit. She is seeing select regulars at her private residence to stay on the DL for the shut down. So good news for those of us who have taken the time to get to know her a little. At this point, bad news for those who've never seen her or who've seen her few and far between. She did mention something about some changes that may be made with her practice in the near future once this pandemic shit flies over. But I'll leave it to her to share the details on a case by case basis at this point. If you are one of her regulars, hit her up, support our local small businesses / sole proprietors during these times.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the review.
[QUOTE=LaVick;4737747]Right before lock down I had the pleasure of seeing Megan. Nice lady the pictures are dated a little. But she was sweet and nice and a good finish. Gave me the whole time and did a real nice job over all. . 6 + tip. Treat her nice and she will treat you nice.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/massage-by-sweet-meganhere-unt/360127328983[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reviews.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-come-see-layla-n/363008443495[/URL]
[QUOTE=Yess Sir;4737444]I did see Layla last week. She met me a a back door to one of the shut down local massage parlors. I will say that she introduced me to a prostate massage which is not the same as massaging just your cock. Eventually I did cum harder than I ever have before.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fature;4736914]Was traveling through town late last week and ended up connecting with Layla. We always have fun together and I feel the $150 fee is fair to me. Her communication skills are what sell me on her. Always quick responses and can usually get me right in.[/QUOTE]
Anybody know where Anita from Wonder (and previously Pacific) went to? I called Wonder in late Feb and they said she no longer works there. She’s my ATF for massage.
If she still is massaging I'm sure it's UTR right now. Anyone have contact info? If so, please PM.
I have seen her in the past and had an outstanding time. PM me for details.
So have been wanting to head up to gr but a little worried especially now with the restrictions set in place. I'm in the lower state and was curious if anyone has made a trip to dream and if so how it went driving wise. Big brain says not to waste my time but the little one keeps chiming in.
Anyone seen her.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/blonde-in-rockford/866634300865[/URL]
[QUOTE=Scott1269;4741433]Anyone seen her.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/blonde-in-rockford/866634300865[/URL][/QUOTE]I booked hhr with her yesterday for $. 0 everything covered, DEFINITELY not GFE and no DATY. Very much a clock watcher, reminded me twice that I only had X minutes left. Nice location but said bed makes too much noise so standing only. Not sure if she would relax more second time but she was very uptight.
[QUOTE=FunInHolland;4737916]Could some one pm me digits for sweet cheeks? Need a massage and lost her number.[/QUOTE]I texted her a few days ago. She is not working until this whole thing blows over.
[QUOTE=Stevede;4739487]Anybody know where Anita from Wonder (and previously Pacific) went to? I called Wonder in late Feb and they said she no longer works there. Shes my ATF for massage.
If she still is massaging I'm sure it's UTR right now. Anyone have contact info? If so, please PM.[/QUOTE]I also would like to see her.
[QUOTE=JMaul;4736269]I can't seem to reply to Benz's post when logged in. All of his posts disappear, so I'll reply to my own.
Based on recent info regarding Ashley:
- prices and services reserved for Frenz of Benz only? What happened to reporting honestly in this review board?
[/QUOTE]I have been a member on this board well before most here. Having "codes" to speak to escorts? This is a board to report findings of the girls we see, good or bad. Prices, services, attitudes, etc. We are not pimps here and this is not a dating site. Benz you have contributed a lot as I did back in the day. Asking other members to get passcodes or prices reserved for friends of Benz in my opinion goes against what this board is about.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr;4744688]I have been a member on this board well before most here. Having "codes" to speak to escorts? This is a board to report findings of the girls we see, good or bad. Prices, services, attitudes, etc. We are not pimps here and this is not a dating site. Benz you have contributed a lot as I did back in the day. Asking other members to get passcodes or prices reserved for friends of Benz in my opinion goes against what this board is about.[/QUOTE]I think many guys here do not like the precedent it sets, feels too much like there is a manager in the mix. But Admin has gone on record as saying he does not really agree with it or like it, but he does not see it as crossing the line into pimping so will not moderate it.
As to jmaul and not being able to see Benz posts, that is because you probably have posted things that were deemed unacceptable when discussing Benz and you went on moderated status. Admin also limits your ability to respond directly to Benz posts once you are on moderation for a violation related to him. I'm not sure why that is, just that it is.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr;4744688]I have been a member on this board well before most here. Having "codes" to speak to escorts? This is a board to report findings of the girls we see, good or bad. Prices, services, attitudes, etc. We are not pimps here and this is not a dating site. Benz you have contributed a lot as I did back in the day. Asking other members to get passcodes or prices reserved for friends of Benz in my opinion goes against what this board is about.[/QUOTE]You're right, we are not pimps and this is not a dating site.
What we do is against the law in Michigan. Call the girl you want to see, ask a new girl all the questions you want, will your questions get answers? Maybe if the girl is stoned and stupid.
Many mongers on here have warned others to not text or say anything that is incriminating. Because it's illegal.
I met Ashley at Serenity and got to know her well, she is not your average provider. She has been working in a new location for over a year and doing well for herself, she does her own screening with the safety net of working in a salon. Since she left Serenity I see her about 3 times a year.
She is currently not working in the safety net of a salon because they are all closed.
You don't need a password from me to call and see her. If you have not seen her before she will not answer any questions, for her safety. If you have not seen her before and you are Frenz of Benz with a password, she will speak openly about services and price. Most good providers want to share that info but can't do it safely. Most mongers can't ask questions safely either. A password helps both monger and provider speak openly safely.
I know you're just asking why in the Fuck some girl wants a password to speak openly about services and price. I've said it many times
Hopefully you have your answer.
SAFETY.
I will repeat for your safety and hers.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL]
I've read a lot of people's comments here about this subject over the years. I fail to see the downside. Benz or any other Monger for that matter setting up some kind of a password system is just an added layer of security for both parties. I've done it for UTR's that I know. Granted that that's mostly because they don't advertise. But ask yourself, if you don't have a friends of Benz system with the girl or you do what's the difference? I don't think he's getting a cut of her earnings but to be honest with you I don't give a shit if he even is. Half the girls we see are giving their money to somebody we probably wouldn't agree with. If Benz or any of us are able to set up a secure system with a password that gets us better rates and some level of security why not do that?
[QUOTE=Benz1;4745452]You're right, we are not pimps and this is not a dating site.
What we do is against the law in Michigan. Call the girl you want to see, ask a new girl all the questions you want, will your questions get answers? Maybe if the girl is stoned and stupid.
Many mongers on here have warned others to not text or say anything that is incriminating. Because it's illegal.
I met Ashley at Serenity and got to know her well, she is not your average provider. She has been working in a new location for over a year and doing well for herself, she does her own screening with the safety net of working in a salon. Since she left Serenity I see her about 3 times a year.
She is currently not working in the safety net of a salon because they are all closed.
You don't need a password from me to call and see her. If you have not seen her before she will not answer any questions, for her safety. If you have not seen her before and you are Frenz of Benz with a password, she will speak openly about services and price. Most good providers want to share that info but can't do it safely. Most mongers can't ask questions safely either. A password helps both monger and provider speak openly safely.
I know you're just asking why in the Fuck some girl wants a password to speak openly about services and price. I've said it many times
Hopefully you have your answer.
SAFETY.
I will repeat for your safety and hers.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monger01;4745488]I've read a lot of people's comments here about this subject over the years. I fail to see the downside. Benz or any other Monger for that matter setting up some kind of a password system is just an added layer of security for both parties. I've done it for UTR's that I know. Granted that that's mostly because they don't advertise. But ask yourself, if you don't have a friends of Benz system with the girl or you do what's the difference? I don't think he's getting a cut of her earnings but to be honest with you I don't give a shit if he even is. Half the girls we see are giving their money to somebody we probably wouldn't agree with. If Benz or any of us are able to set up a secure system with a password that gets us better rates and some level of security why not do that?[/QUOTE]I used to negotiate team rates. After the pimping accusations, I quit discussing price on this board and say the password is for open discussion with the provider. I considered myself a good negotiator.
1 loss for the team, now everyone can call and negotiate on their own.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4745780]I used to negotiate team rates. After the pimping accusations, I quit discussing price on this board and say the password is for open discussion with the provider. I considered myself a good negotiator.
1 loss for the team, now everyone can call and negotiate on their own.[/QUOTE]Benz1. You have helped me tons of times as well as this board. Yes the negotiating and password system works great for me. TY for what you do. Stay safe my friend. MM686.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4745780]I used to negotiate team rates. After the pimping accusations, I quit discussing price on this board and say the password is for open discussion with the provider. I considered myself a good negotiator.
1 loss for the team, now everyone can call and negotiate on their own.[/QUOTE]I know for a fact that Benz doesn't receive freebies ect for helping the ladies out. I know several of these ladies personally, and communicate frequently with them. Does he get a "better" appointment than most guys? You bet! As anybody does when they build a relationship and trust with a lady.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4745780]I used to negotiate team rates. After the pimping accusations, I quit discussing price on this board and say the password is for open discussion with the provider. I considered myself a good negotiator.
1 loss for the team, now everyone can call and negotiate on their own.[/QUOTE]Sounds more like a Monger Union Leader! *smile*.
I can see why people would raise their eyebrow, due to having to be "cool" with Benz, and that "pressure" or potential pressure not being a fan of, and what it Could lead to, over time, I guess.
But essentially it just sounds like "He's cool in the forums, he's been around the block. You're good," and verification that you are.
That said, I would think the girls should just hop on here, and a guy send them a message. She can look up his posts, and get a feel for herself. Although I don't think a ton of the girls are going to be putting forth all that effort, tho!
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4746582]Sounds more like a Monger Union Leader! *smile* [/QUOTE]Interesting thought.
This actually might be the the problem or where it started.
Many moons ago I started using passwords for any and all senior members.
I took one for the team with a very young skinny tattooed girl with the hobby name of Crystal, she gave great head and I negotiated 70 for HHR. She had an older white security guy in the living room of a house on the westside. Mentioning all of this to help a few mongers remember her.
I asked her what it would be worth to her to have 10 maybe more nice guys that show up on time. 70 per hhr? She smiled and said sure. Set up a password and and the fun begins. Until someone started taking videos of her when she said No. She told me not all my friends are nice.
That lead me to screening out the members with angry, argumentative postings or redactions assuming they are members that can't follow rules. Some members have taken it personally about me being a jerk when they only needed to be looking in the mirror.
Those who have gotten angry about my method of screening have confirmed that they are probably not nice enough to represent our team.
She agreed to see only me and a few others that she liked on our team. During my next appointment I found out she had habits that were not visible she confessed she shot up in her feet and that's why she always wore socks. Later we got a review stating that she took a mongers money to a van in front of the house and returned with a bag. She still provided service to the monger.
Regardless the outcome on her being a junkie, I realized I should still continue screening so the girl is safe and we are on our best behavior while representing the team. One bad apple and she won't trust any of us.
Since the pimping accusations, I no longer negotiate rates for the team. I consider that a loss for our team. If the Benz Bashing ends, I might start team negotiations again.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4746760]Interesting thought.
This actually might be the the problem or where it started.
Many moons ago I started using passwords for any and all senior members.
I took one for the team with a very young skinny tattooed girl with the hobby name of Crystal, she gave great head and I negotiated 70 for HHR. She had an older white security guy in the living room of a house on the westside. Mentioning all of this to help a few mongers remember her.
I asked her what it would be worth to her to have 10 maybe more nice guys that show up on time. 70 per hhr? She smiled and said sure. Set up a password and and the fun begins. Until someone started taking videos of her when she said No. She told me not all my friends are nice.
That lead me to screening out the members with angry, argumentative postings or redactions assuming they are members that can't follow rules. Some members have taken it personally about me being a jerk when they only needed to be looking in the mirror.
Those who have gotten angry about my method of screening have confirmed that they are probably not nice enough to represent our team.
She agreed to see only me and a few others that she liked on our team. During my next appointment I found out she had habits that were not visible she confessed she shot up in her feet and that's why she always wore socks. Later we got a review stating that she took a mongers money to a van in front of the house and returned with a bag. She still provided service to the monger.
Regardless the outcome on her being a junkie, I realized I should still continue screening so the girl is safe and we are on our best behavior while representing the team. One bad apple and she won't trust any of us.
Since the pimping accusations, I no longer negotiate rates for the team. I consider that a loss for our team. If the Benz Bashing ends, I might start team negotiations again.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Pimping? Since when? I guess I missed the post or I'm not on here enough anymore. Been dealing with trying get myself healthy. Benz you helped everyone in some way. Whether they want to mention it or not! Your system has been way more reliable than STG or anything else out there that I've experienced! I'm thankful for everything you've done, and I can't thank you enough for help and advice you given me! I know as soon as this thing clears up I'll be in touch buddy! I trust you, stay safe! Irish.
[QUOTE=IrishGuy77;4746944]Pimping? Since when? I guess I missed the post or I'm not on here enough anymore. Been dealing with trying get myself healthy. Benz you helped everyone in some way. Whether they want to mention it or not! Your system has been way more reliable than STG or anything else out there that I've experienced! I'm thankful for everything you've done, and I can't thank you enough for help and advice you given me! I know as soon as this thing clears up I'll be in touch buddy! I trust you, stay safe! Irish.[/QUOTE]Yeah Benz. Seems like no good deed goes unpunished. Not that I'm totally in sync with your program but you are a great help and generous with your connections and thoughts.
Too bad a few outliers have to be so negative and vocal. Piss on that.
Smilin man out.
And. Thanks Benz.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4746760]
That lead me to screening out the members with angry, argumentative postings or redactions assuming they are members that can't follow rules. Some members have taken it personally about me being a jerk when they only needed to be looking in the mirror
.[/QUOTE]Luckily for me Benz hasn't been too strict on the argumentative post aspect of this LOL.
Curious if any one has acted on this ad?
Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4746582]That said, I would think the girls should just hop on here, and a guy send them a message. She can look up his posts, and get a feel for herself. Although I don't think a ton of the girls are going to be putting forth all that effort, tho![/QUOTE]They used to do this with the other boards. We had a lot more participation with them. Back in the day a provider, if in conversation about being trusting or safety, would say something like "yea I checked out your posts" or something to that nature. Some still may. I agree, I don't think the girls put out that type of effort now. They may squawk if they read some negative press about themselfs but for the most part I think they just watch us monger about here. Quality / experienced girls know what to look and listen for when you approach them.
I sure am having to do a lot of reading here to find something related to the topic of the thread.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4747213]Curious if any one has acted on this ad?
Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.[/QUOTE]Is there a link?
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4747213]Curious if any one has acted on this ad?
Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.[/QUOTE]NJ care to post a link?
[QUOTE=GRJack;4747810]I sure am having to do a lot of reading here to find something related to the topic of the thread.[/QUOTE]I apologize GRJack this should have been in General reports.
It started with questions about a massage girl named Ashely. It started with Why does anyone need a password to see her. You don't call her, set an appointment. If you want to ask questions about HJ, BJ or Cfs you need a password to get your questions answered. It's kind of a safety thing.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL]
[QUOTE=EngrGuy;4747881]NJ care to post a link?[/QUOTE]Crap forgot the link. Don't tell Bloozer!
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/joyy/199218431350[/URL]
After seeing some of the talk on here I decided to try to set something up with Ashley. Easy to set up and reasonable rates. Let me know to meet her at a hotel off 28th st. Let her know I arrived and she told me what door to meet her at. As I parked I saw a girl let a guy in and didn't think anything of it. Let her know I was there and immediately got a call from her. She said she let the wrong guy in and now didn't have anywhere to meet. Said I would have to wait. Thought about it for a minute and decided it all seemed too strange to me. Let her know I would just try to set something up a different time. She thanked me and apologized. I'm sure there is more to the story but didn't want to wait around to find out. Just wanted to share my experience.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL]
Set up an appt with Brittany awhile back now. Easy set up and a nice location. Rate was $ for 30 minutes. Massage was good, she likes to talk a lot but it does make you feel comfortable. Body slide and standard HJ on the flip. I will say everything seemed clean and I appreciated that. Left a tip and had some small talk on the way out. Everything was good but nothing special.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/blonde25/838331048614[/URL]
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The next time you mention the name Benz I'm banning you.
I'm not trying to "protect" him, I don't know him. This thread is about massage parlors not your obsession with him.
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[QUOTE=ClarkEtt;4749042]After seeing some of the talk on here I decided to try to set something up with Ashley. Easy to set up and reasonable rates. Let me know to meet her at a hotel off 28th st. Let her know I arrived and she told me what door to meet her at. As I parked I saw a girl let a guy in and didn't think anything of it. Let her know I was there and immediately got a call from her. She said she let the wrong guy in and now didn't have anywhere to meet. Said I would have to wait. Thought about it for a minute and decided it all seemed too strange to me. Let her know I would just try to set something up a different time. She thanked me and apologized. I'm sure there is more to the story but didn't want to wait around to find out. Just wanted to share my experience.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like she doubled booked your time and went with the first guy that arrived. You got an apology and the option of sitting around in a hotel parking lot waiting for her to be done with the other guy. You made the right choice by leaving. Time is money and she wasted yours.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4747213]Curious if any one has acted on this ad?
Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.[/QUOTE]She use to give a great massage!
I use to see her every 7-10 days when she was at 28/ eastern.
Then she was trying to manage / run the place off Division /44th.
I had an appointment with her that sucked.
She let massage room 9 times for minutes at a time. The last time she came back in room and told me I had to go and that she was going to have to owe me 20 minutes that she was shorting me.
I explained l felt she owed more since I paid for an hour and I was only there a half hour, plus she left the room 9 times!
She didn't feel the same.
Whatever, take care Joy.
10 hours later she's drunk, blowing up my phone telling me how upset she was I didn't leave her a tip and she knows she gives best massage in GR.
I asked her not to call or text me as she's going to cause problems for me.
She demanded 100 tip!
Nope, not doing that for the maybe 5 minute massage that I already had 60 into.
Crazy!!
I hung up.
She then called several times over the next hour (11 pm) then left a shitty voicemail that went on so long my voicemail disconnected.
I blocked her # and haven't reached again, for obvious reasons! LOL.
YMMV!
Good luck guys and stay safe!
Twotrack.
[QUOTE=ClarkEtt;4749060]Set up an appt with Brittany awhile back now. Easy set up and a nice location. Rate was $ for 30 minutes. Massage was good, she likes to talk a lot but it does make you feel comfortable. Body slide and standard HJ on the flip. I will say everything seemed clean and I appreciated that. Left a tip and had some small talk on the way out. Everything was good but nothing special.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/blonde25/838331048614[/URL][/QUOTE]$100 for 30 m for standard massage HJ -- And tip? Yikes. She works on her own (no cut to a parlor), and I know that her experience is more fruitful and all, but unless she's going by the standard 40/ hhr -- I believe a tip isn't expected to be given, unless it's an upsell beyond standard-ops on the flip.
[QUOTE]Sounds like she doubled booked your time and went with the first guy that arrived. You got an apology and the option of sitting around in a hotel parking lot waiting for her to be done with the other guy. You made the right choice by leaving. Time is money and she wasted yours. [/QUOTE]Yeah, that's pretty ballsy by her -- two guys, same time, same door. The only way I'd try again with her would be "Okay, I'm on my way. I'm not in a double-booking foot race to the door this time, right? *smiley*" If she gets upset, then, well, that only strengthens the notion that she has a bug up her arse. If she chuckles with it and apologizes and says No way, not making that mistaken again -- Hmmm, Alright, let's try this out.
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4749883]$100 for 30 m for standard massage HJ -- And tip? Yikes. She works on her own (no cut to a parlor), and I know that her experience is more fruitful and all, but unless she's going by the standard 40/ hhr -- I believe a tip isn't expected to be given, unless it's an upsell beyond standard-ops on the flip.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this, I'm still learning what the going rates are.
Not completely new to the hobby but first time posting.
Saw Blond25 several weeks ago. Overall the experience was 6/10. Ending was good but massage was just OK. She talked the entire time and kind of seemed like she was just passing time to get to the ending. I would have liked more teasing and generally just more effort during the massage portion.
Setup was easy and in-call is clean and convenient. Damage was 1. 8/ hr. Probably won't repeat anytime soon.
Has anyone seen this Angel. Not much luck in the search feature. Thanks.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/angel-baby/198388320787[/URL]
Sadly that's become a moving target. Before BP went down parlors had door rates $40 half and $60 hour.
For a topless HJ it was expected you'd tip the door fee. So half hour with topless happy ending was 40 door +40 tip.
You might tip an extra 20 for a great experience but that was the default rates most places. A few exceptions existed but generally that was the deal. Anything more than HJ was negotiated. I paid 80-100 tip for BBBJ to a few that offered it. I paid 100 or more for FS for those that offered that.
Then BP went down. Prices went crazy. I had a girl at Pacific explain to me that a lot of former mongers who used BP became parlor customers and the girls all raised their tip fees. I was told 100 tip for topless HJ by not so hot girls repeatedly to the extent I flat stopped seeing massage girls. I can get GFE escort service from several girls for under 100 half total so why am I going to pay 140 for a halfass massage and a topless HJ?
Fuck that.
That's my opinion. No offense to guys here paying top dollar. But I'm not paying it.
[QUOTE=ClarkEtt;4751416]Thanks for this, I'm still learning what the going rates are.[/QUOTE]