[QUOTE=ManapuaMan;5131810]On the way to Lex Brodie's today saw a sign on a small building across where Ward Bank of Hawaii used to be with that name on it. Anyone try the place? Anything good there?
MP Man.[/QUOTE]That's young skye's new place.
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[QUOTE=ManapuaMan;5131810]On the way to Lex Brodie's today saw a sign on a small building across where Ward Bank of Hawaii used to be with that name on it. Anyone try the place? Anything good there?
MP Man.[/QUOTE]That's young skye's new place.
[QUOTE=MeCook;5131425]I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.
The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.
The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.
We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.
I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.[/QUOTE]I think most Koreans potentially interested in opening a place have decided it's not worth the risk here and have gone elsewhere on the mainland. Even Happy decided to get out.
No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.
[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;5134294]I think most Koreans potentially interested in opening a place have decided it's not worth the risk here and have gone elsewhere on the mainland. Even Happy decided to get out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DeeJohn808;5134417]No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.[/QUOTE]Yes Dee John, I was thinking that too. I don't mind to pay more for higher quality talent, but I would be very pissed to pay more for that low quality service that we are getting from the Chinese connection style service at century center. The women better have decent hygiene, good looks, attitude and service. Otherwise, I will probably be sitting it out for a very long time, and head back into the hostess bars.
Top tier girls versus the low quality girls. I know that they all will claim to be the best girl around, but we should know better.
[QUOTE=DeeJohn808;5134417]No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.[/QUOTE]I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.
Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.
[QUOTE=Sidekick501;5134719]I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.
Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.[/QUOTE]Small package of fresh spring mix is 6 dollars here. Big one 8 bucks. In mainland it was half price.
What about commercial rental? Unlike mainland massage shop (remote location), damn one unit in packed town. High rental.
Can girls come by car as many illegal residents do in mainland? No. Only legal one without record feel safe and some girls (they got arrested or I'd-checked up in other states) got freaked in airport. And now test and quarantine.
Anyway compared to mainland raid, hps is almost angel. Before mainland les just drag girls in thong and only fishnet dress into van. On the street in cold weather pros got lined up till investigation was done. And was "one girl caught then take any human in that shop into custody first".
But hpd's way became more sneaky and meaner. Once I'd checked up or investigation, pros may get sudden warrant after 3 months or 6 months or even after 1 year. Just leaving Hawaii was the best choice for some.
There must be reason when girls and shops suddenly stop ads and avoid reviews.
Then worse came. Shops and girls kept very very low. Even appointment with stranger scared them. Many left from fear then coronavirus. But soon money will be the reason. Young quick visitors disappear owing to job loss, stable grannies will hesitate visiting cause they worry about their own health and life itself.
Keep a few leftovers now though they may not be ideal girl unless we can win in freebie competing jungle war against younger, fitter dudes. To hungry men, even 1 dollar gas station donut can be diamond. Sad truth for a while.
[QUOTE=Restless1728;5132557]That's young skye's new place.[/QUOTE]Sorry that is not skye's place it was a misunderstanding!
[QUOTE=Restless1728;5136373]Sorry that is not skye's place it was a misunderstanding![/QUOTE]I already drove all the way down there.
[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;5136445]I already drove all the way down there.[/QUOTE]So who's there if not Skye? Thanks.
[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/honolullu-near-waikiki/6474360.html[/URL]
This ad mentions the Lydia that was there at Hunnewell before briefly, has anyone been able to get a response?
[QUOTE=ACupOfTea;5139981][URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/honolullu-near-waikiki/6474360.html[/URL]
This ad mentions the Lydia that was there at Hunnewell before briefly, has anyone been able to get a response?[/QUOTE]That's the pic that Pali used for Lydia, but the 275 number is for a massage place by Don Quijote. I tried texting, no response.
[QUOTE=Sidekick501;5134719]I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.
Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.[/QUOTE]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.
Anyway that's what I think.
Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there!
[QUOTE=Museki;5140298]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.
Anyway that's what I think.
Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there![/QUOTE]Yes, l would definitely pay more to see my ATFs again. I noticed most decent K providers in the mainland are $300 and up. Only Chinese is still $200. Better to save your money for oversea.
[QUOTE=Museki;5140298]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.
Anyway that's what I think.
Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there![/QUOTE]I want to help them get minimum income to stay in Hawaii.
High cost of living and now no more very generous LE policy. No reason for working girls to stay in Hawaii. So I want the left girls to get at least minimum income to stay in Hawaii. Now it may be impossible to bring top girls to come for a while or for a few years.
I know one girl with 10-15 regulars. The reason she could stay in Hawaii is that she has special old haole guy friend who happily understand her situation and pay a lot more to make her stay in Hawaii. That man's gift is basic income so she can give as good service as before with flat rate fee. Thanks for generous old gentleman.
When most places don't want risk of new clients (now rumors are going there are suspicious activity against them) and most of the left rely on not many regulars, and many guys can not spend money as much as before a month too. Just adding 10 dollars to them will make them encouraged.
[QUOTE=Museki;5140298]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.
Anyway that's what I think.
Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there![/QUOTE]No flames from me. I have thinking that I would need to pay more money to see the quality girls like before. Definitely don't want to pay more and still get junk service or from old ladies.