[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4727226]Thanks for the review. She looks nice. What was the damage?[/QUOTE]If I recall. 6 hr /. 4 tip. Perfect for what was offered.
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[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4727226]Thanks for the review. She looks nice. What was the damage?[/QUOTE]If I recall. 6 hr /. 4 tip. Perfect for what was offered.
[QUOTE=BashTheJohnson;4728911]Not worth your time or money. Old pictures, been using them for years. She is closer to 50!! Heavier in person then the pictures. Think she is part of the group of providers that do the bait and switch in GR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel, Bash.
I was able to schedule an appt yesterday with the lovely Layla, the second time in the last couple weeks. If you're freshly showered and virus symptom free, she'll give you specific directions on how to meet her. And, trust me, she is well worth seeing. Her place is squeaky clean and so is she. It goes without saying, the massage is outstanding and this old geezer always leaves with a smile on my face.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4729130]No Serenity is not open.
If a provider is advertising, call or text them.[/QUOTE]
Anyone can pass along intel about her? Posts without a name so not sure how to search her. Thank you!
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/549668205742[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pelorus;4729856]I was able to schedule an appt yesterday with the lovely Layla, the second time in the last couple weeks. If you're freshly showered and virus symptom free, she'll give you specific directions on how to meet her. And, trust me, she is well worth seeing. Her place is squeaky clean and so is she. It goes without saying, the massage is outstanding and this old geezer always leaves with a smile on my face[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. How much $?
[QUOTE=BashTheJohnson;4728911]Not worth your time or money. Old pictures, been using them for years. She is closer to 50!! Heavier in person then the pictures. Think she is part of the group of providers that do the bait and switch in GR.[/QUOTE]Always figured she was just fake. You can tell the picture on black is photoshopped by her stomach.
[QUOTE=Darko9;4730147]Anyone can pass along intel about her? Posts without a name so not sure how to search her. Thank you!
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/549668205742[/URL][/QUOTE]Prior posts have identified her as Ashley. Mixed reviews.
[QUOTE=Gene2;4730348]Prior posts have identified her as Ashley. Mixed reviews.[/QUOTE]She works out of Royal Touch nothing special wants a $ plus tip pretty much won't let you touch her.
Thanks for the review.
[URL]https://escortfish.ch/tel/view/616-202-9217/5/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrHandy;4724395]Been reading for a while, finally decided to make a report. Based on the good reviews, went to see Ari the other day.
No problems setting up a time. Location was discrete.
Massage was very good and playful. Went topless on the flip, and had the most perfect set of fun bags that I have seen or felt in a long time. The ending was darn near perfect, and I'm sure more was on the menu, but I did not partake. Look forward to visiting again.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/private-location-book-appointm/422281228300[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the review.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-come-see-layla-n/363008443495[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pelorus;4729856]I was able to schedule an appt yesterday with the lovely Layla, the second time in the last couple weeks. If you're freshly showered and virus symptom free, she'll give you specific directions on how to meet her. And, trust me, she is well worth seeing. Her place is squeaky clean and so is she. It goes without saying, the massage is outstanding and this old geezer always leaves with a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pelorus;4729856]I was able to schedule an appt yesterday with the lovely Layla, the second time in the last couple weeks. If you're freshly showered and virus symptom free, she'll give you specific directions on how to meet her. And, trust me, she is well worth seeing. Her place is squeaky clean and so is she. It goes without saying, the massage is outstanding and this old geezer always leaves with a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]Please let us know the donation rate.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4731166]Please let us know the donation rate.[/QUOTE]I have seen Layla multiple times over the past year & she has always been a delight in every way. I consider her a friend and, in-as-much as these are difficult times for her, I prefer to offer her asking rate. I'm able and happy to do so, particularly when I know her facilities are safe, clean and discreet.
I hope everyone stays safe.
About a month ago I was looking for a good massage with a HE so decided to try Sweetie out am glad I did. She works out of her residence in a nice quiet NE area. I opted for the HH massage it was very relaxing and hit my problem areas. The flip was nice too and I left happy. She only offers the standard HE no touching and all her clothes stay on. That was fine with me got a nice massage and release and only set me back $60 total. She was easy to set up with. I have see her one more time since that first visit and would recommend if your looking for a good massage the HE is a bonus.
[QUOTE=Pelorus;4732940]I have seen Layla multiple times over the past year & she has always been a delight in every way. I consider her a friend and, in-as-much as these are difficult times for her, I prefer to offer her asking rate. I'm able and happy to do so, particularly when I know her facilities are safe, clean and discreet.
I hope everyone stays safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks. And what is her asking rate?
[QUOTE=Pelorus;4732940]I have seen Layla multiple times over the past year & she has always been a delight in every way. I consider her a friend and, in-as-much as these are difficult times for her, I prefer to offer her asking rate. I'm able and happy to do so, particularly when I know her facilities are safe, clean and discreet.
I hope everyone stays safe.[/QUOTE]That was in response to someone asking what the donation rate was? OK, what is here "asking rate"?
[QUOTE=Pelorus;4732940]I have seen Layla multiple times over the past year & she has always been a delight in every way. I consider her a friend and, in-as-much as these are difficult times for her, I prefer to offer her asking rate. I'm able and happy to do so, particularly when I know her facilities are safe, clean and discreet.
I hope everyone stays safe.[/QUOTE]Oh ok, what is her current asking rate? It used to be something crazy like 150 for 45 min. And that was pretty much for just a HJ.
[QUOTE=Darko9;4730147]Anyone can pass along intel about her? Posts without a name so not sure how to search her. Thank you!
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/549668205742[/URL][/QUOTE]She has morphed in and out of the names Winter, Ashley, and London for awhile now. I met her twice when she did outcall. First time went off without any hiccups. Nice body, good time. The second time she grabbed the cash and ran. Too bad, she has a smoking little body on her but once a thief, always a thief. I think you would be wise to stay away from her.
[QUOTE=BackToTheWall;4733257]She has morphed in and out of the names Winter, Ashley, and London for awhile now. I met her twice when she did outcall. First time went off without any hiccups. Nice body, good time. The second time she grabbed the cash and ran. Too bad, she has a smoking little body on her but once a thief, always a thief. I think you would be wise to stay away from her.[/QUOTE]Is this the same Winter that used to work at one of the spas, I think MBD or maybe Serenity?
[QUOTE=BackToTheWall;4733257]She has morphed in and out of the names Winter, Ashley, and London for awhile now. I met her twice when she did outcall. First time went off without any hiccups. Nice body, good time. The second time she grabbed the cash and ran. Too bad, she has a smoking little body on her but once a thief, always a thief. I think you would be wise to stay away from her.[/QUOTE]She has been working out of Royal Touch starting tip is $ and she won't let you touch her.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4733279]Is this the same Winter that used to work at one of the spas, I think MBD or maybe Serenity?[/QUOTE]She use to work at Serenity.
Shitty attitude but had a nice body.
Massage sucked also!
Stay safe.
Two track.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4733226]Oh ok, what is her current asking rate? It used to be something crazy like 150 for 45 min. And that was pretty much for just a HJ.[/QUOTE]With all due respect to senior members, I'm not comfortable in quoting Layla's asking rates. I think she would be happy to provide that info directly to you as her contact info is prominently displayed on her posting on STG. What I have been paying is the same as when I first saw her over a year ago, 0. 6 door fee and 1. 0 tip. Yes, perhaps that is on the high side but, it is what I'm comfortable with. Hope that satisfies your query.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4733226]Oh ok, what is her current asking rate? It used to be something crazy like 150 for 45 min. And that was pretty much for just a HJ.[/QUOTE]If that's accurate, that is indeed ludicrous for a simple rub and tug from a 45 year old lady! I have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions? Are there any more objective guys who have seen her care to provide a little information on her cost / service? Also what area of town I would have to travel to?
[QUOTE=Toes63;4733316]She has been working out of Royal Touch starting tip is $ and she won't let you touch her.[/QUOTE]I've touched Ashley plenty of times any where I want except FIV and FIB. It's the approach that matters to a lot of these girls, I never use the grab and go approach. They don't like scratchy dirty fingernails in their pussy either. I respect their boundaries and usually get what I need.
Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.
While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.
She's no longer at Royal which gives her more flexibility on cost and rules.
She's offering Massage and cfs to generous sanitized gentleman without the grab and go attitude. After she returns to Royal there will be No cfs option. Rules are Rules. Frenz of Benz can have open conversation with Ashley using a password.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL]
Met her while backpage was live and while she offered FS. Never paid her asking price. Seen her downtown at a festival, not worth the 150 $ in the looks department. If I recall I paid like. 40 or. 60 for each date.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;4734207]If that's accurate, that is indeed ludicrous for a simple rub and tug from a 45 year old lady! I have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions? Are there any more objective guys who have seen her care to provide a little information on her cost / service? Also what area of town I would have to travel to?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Benz1;4734689]I've touched Ashley plenty of times any where I want except FIV and FIB. It's the approach that matters to a lot of these girls, I never use the grab and go approach. They don't like scratchy dirty fingernails in their pussy either. I respect their boundaries and usually get what I need.
Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.
While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.
She's no longer at Royal which gives her more flexibility on cost and rules.
She's offering Massage and cfs to generous sanitized gentleman without the grab and go attitude. After she returns to Royal there will be No cfs option. Rules are Rules. Frenz of Benz can have open conversation with Ashley using a password.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn, that is a nice ass!
Unlike most of the girls we are all debating price about, she is that fuckin hot that I get how she commands hi rates. I won't pay it. But I get it.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4734689]I've touched Ashley plenty of times any where I want except FIV and FIB. It's the approach that matters to a lot of these girls, I never use the grab and go approach. They don't like scratchy dirty fingernails in their pussy either. I respect their boundaries and usually get what I need.
Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.
While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.
She's no longer at Royal which gives her more flexibility on cost and rules.
She's offering Massage and cfs to generous sanitized gentleman without the grab and go attitude. After she returns to Royal there will be No cfs option. Rules are Rules. Frenz of Benz can have open conversation with Ashley using a password.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]
Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.
I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.
If not, it doesn't look or sound honest.
I saw several reports of very poor service and thievery. Has she made up with any of these people? In fact, I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL]
[QUOTE=Blackfire;4734207]If that's accurate, that is indeed ludicrous for a simple rub and tug from a 45 year old lady! I have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions? Are there any more objective guys who have seen her care to provide a little information on her cost / service? Also what area of town I would have to travel to?[/QUOTE]I've seen Layla a few times - 3 total I think. Both at the MP and privately. The price of admission is what keeps me from seeing her more frequently.
Personally I find her demeanor quite enjoyable, part sexy, part devilish, part MILF who gets turned on by teasing you. I'd say her massage is average with what you find in GR. If she opened up a little more of the GFE playbook at the same rate I'd be a frequent flyer.
Service wise she was more open to activity earlier on than she is now. If I'm spending $150 I would like GFE but I will say that she makes up for it partly with her spunky personality. She's like the mom you definitely want to fuck, she's knows it and she won't let you, but she uses that to tease and make the experience enjoyable.
I would definitely recommend once, maybe twice to see if she meets your expectations with costs being considered. Maybe you'll hit it off, maybe not. IMO it's worth trying.
Stay safe out there.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;4734207]have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions?[/QUOTE]I strongly believe that's included and Why it's higher than normal. Her friend Justice (see link below) explained to me many moons ago. Justice was pushing to do the prostate thing which I kept declining. Saw her twice, but man, was she lobbying for it. Anyway, her explanation in what she (and Layla) do is the prostate massage as part of their schtick that most mongers who see them want. So basically, if you take into consideration that the full time + no extra tip + the tip of their finger massaging your prostate, while being nice looking ladies -- you realize why $150 out the door for 45 m isn't a bad thing. Assuming you're a fan of the prostate probe, of course.
[QUOTE]Met her while backpage was live and while she offered FS. Never paid her asking price. Seen her downtown at a festival, not worth the 150 $ in the looks department. If I recall I paid like. 40 or. 60 for each date.[/QUOTE]To be fair though, when times change, things differ in what they want / expect / get. I wouldn't expect her or anyone else with a flow of hungry monger customers for upper-level massages at 150, negotiating over text for even just 100 for full service side-dates.
[QUOTE]Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've noticed you always pointing that out. But during roughly the same times that you would, being established at Serenity, others would repeatedly have issues with her on the small and big side of things. I never saw it as a toss-up of neg / pos reviews. Mainly not good, where her attitude / POV out of the gate was never great. I do want to try myself, but I feel like I'd be telling myself "I told you so", turning into a pay-a-lot-she's-hot-and-lets-you-know-that in a not-much-more than standard massage ops. But from your feedback, it sounds like If one were to get in her comfort zone, she can be a pretty decent hot-pricey-option.
[QUOTE]'m straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing. Didn't seem like her, from the looks of it. Both lots of tattoos, same genre of look & hair color, but other than that, I'm not seeing it (cut off face in posted pics though). Could be, though, maybe. Maybe changed things up, maybe used pics of someone who looks kinda like her, who knows.
If its the old Wynter from Serenity the archives are chock full of shitty reviews of her. I think the only positive reviews came from Benz. I suspect based on his luck with finding talent over the years that Benz is much more charming than most of us frankly. Its a great advantage. I try to be respectful when I'm with the girls but I'm not all that charming. The 2 things are similar, but not exactly the same.
[QUOTE=JMaul;4735162]Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.
I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.
If not, it doesn't look or sound honest.
I saw several reports of very poor service and thievery. Has she made up with any of these people? In fact, I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JMaul;4735162]Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.
I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.
I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]The answer is yes she had a baby 7 months ago. And her itiy bitty titties have improved. I hadn't seen or heard from her in awhile until she started sending me her pregnancy nudes. Bonus pics that she knows I would never share without her permission. It seems like nobody on this board knows her. A couple hints just in case you take the plunge, she's very young looking and a natural beauty no makeup required her looks seem to attract those who are feverishly seeking the very young. If she detects a pedophile personality, she gets grumpy. She loves a good foot massage, I always start with giving her a foot massage to completely relax her. I've brought her chocolate from Sweetlands too.
Correct, I might have been her only good review on this board but she's still in the business and has a clientele that might not read this board.
After reading recent comments about her, I sent her a message and she sent this back to me.
I had my child 7 months ago and went threw a crazy break up of course I had to change things up become new and improved.
Young girl having a baby and breaking up with the daddy. Might make her grumpy, she seems to be over it. And she's offering CFS looks like a lot has changed.
Ashley is a very cool drug free provider for me.
If Frenz of Benz want to speak to her openly about price and menu, I have a password you can use to have that conversation.
Stay safe everyone.
[QUOTE=JMaul;4735162]Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.
I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.
If not, it doesn't look or sound honest.
I saw several reports of very poor service and thievery. Has she made up with any of these people? In fact, I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't seem to reply to Benz's post when logged in. All of his posts disappear, so I'll reply to my own.
Based on recent info regarding Ashley:
- prices and services reserved for Frenz of Benz only? What happened to reporting honestly in this review board?
- you need to buy her things and service her to get her in a good mood.
Still need to clarify on the pics: are they her or not? Did she score a whole new set of ink?
I wouldn't think of myself as rude but I don't think I'm up for the task that's been laid out to please this girl. Maybe a few people will have a positive experience with her and care to write a legitimate, honest review.
Having a young child is a rough time and I do wish her the best though. Maybe a return back to the biz means better attitude / service.
I'd have to agree with Benz on Ashley. I've seen her numerous time including once since her maternity leave. Ashley is perhaps a bit guarded till she is comfortable with someone and a little respect goes a long way with her. After getting to know her I began offering her a massage before getting mine. I've been very happy with all my appointments! She's a beautiful young lady that is working hard to provide for her child. She's definitely one of the best looking women offering massage in GR and that's going to command a higher price.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4735957]The answer is yes she had a baby 7 months ago. And her itiy bitty titties have improved. I hadn't seen or heard from her in awhile until she started sending me her pregnancy nudes. Bonus pics that she knows I would never share without her permission. It seems like nobody on this board knows her. A couple hints just in case you take the plunge, she's very young looking and a natural beauty no makeup required her looks seem to attract those who are feverishly seeking the very young. If she detects a pedophile personality, she gets grumpy. She loves a good foot massage, I always start with giving her a foot massage to completely relax her. I've brought her chocolate from Sweetlands too.
Correct, I might have been her only good review on this board but she's still in the business and has a clientele that might not read this board.
After reading recent comments about her, I sent her a message and she sent this back to me.
I had my child 7 months ago and went threw a crazy break up of course I had to change things up become new and improved.
Young girl having a baby and breaking up with the daddy. Might make her grumpy, she seems to be over it. And she's offering CFS looks like a lot has changed.
Ashley is a very cool drug free provider for me.
If Frenz of Benz want to speak to her openly about price and menu, I have a password you can use to have that conversation.
Stay safe everyone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Benz1;4734689]While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/you-like-it-i-love-it/906555331226[/URL][/QUOTE]Were you wearing a stormtrooper helmet for PPE or was that her request?
I had the pleasure of seeing Emily again. No secret that she's my ATF. I reached out to see how she was doing and if she was still working through all of this shutdown horseshit. She is seeing select regulars at her private residence to stay on the DL for the shut down. So good news for those of us who have taken the time to get to know her a little. At this point, bad news for those who've never seen her or who've seen her few and far between. She did mention something about some changes that may be made with her practice in the near future once this pandemic shit flies over. But I'll leave it to her to share the details on a case by case basis at this point. If you are one of her regulars, hit her up, support our local small businesses / sole proprietors during these times.
Was traveling through town late last week and ended up connecting with Layla. We always have fun together and I feel the $150 fee is fair to me. Her communication skills are what sell me on her. Always quick responses and can usually get me right in.
Right before lock down I had the pleasure of seeing Megan. Nice lady the pictures are dated a little. But she was sweet and nice and a good finish. Gave me the whole time and did a real nice job over all. . 6 + tip. Treat her nice and she will treat you nice.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/massage-by-sweet-meganhere-unt/360127328983[/URL]
Could some one pm me digits for sweet cheeks? Need a massage and lost her number.
My go to girl moved out of state.
Senior members please send me a message on a good girl that will toss my salad at a reasonable price. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Underdog1495;4738006]My go to girl moved out of state.
Senior members please send me a message on a good girl that will toss my salad at a reasonable price. Thanks[/QUOTE]I saw Layla and she introduced me to a prostate message. I cam harder than I have in a very long time if ever.