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[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7424754]Girls probably get 10 to 20 offers of a day, so from their perspective, whoever is willing to give them some compensation for m&g gets priority. I think in their eyes it shows how serious a guy is. I personally had great luck with paid m&g's.[/QUOTE]Or how stupid a guy is. The vast majority of reports I've read on this and other forums is that paid m&g rarely turns into anything more except more demands for money. She gets free dinner / drinks and he pays her just to show up. You don't put a down payment on something unless there's a guarantee you're going to receive what you've contracted for. You going to give money to a car dealership if they are under no obligation to deliver a car to you?

It's free money for her, and proof that he's not very smart and can be taken advantage of.

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7424754]Girls probably get 10 to 20 offers of a day, so from their perspective, whoever is willing to give them some compensation for m&g gets priority. I think in their eyes it shows how serious a guy is. I personally had great luck with paid m&g's.[/QUOTE]I'm sure paid m&g can work out, and I'm glad you've had good experiences with it. I don't think it makes sense though. For a m&g both people are setting aside a couple hours to find out more about each other. I can understand paying for transportation, but I don't think those hours are more valuable to the SB than the SD.

You're right, girls probably do get 10 to 20 offers per day. Similarly, there are plenty of women for the men to choose from, but in order to make anything happen, two people have to take a couple hours to get to know each other.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7424985]Or how stupid a guy is. The vast majority of reports I've read on this and other forums is that paid m&g rarely turns into anything more except more demands for money. She gets free dinner / drinks and he pays her just to show up. You don't put a down payment on something unless there's a guarantee you're going to receive what you've contracted for. You going to give money to a car dealership if they are under no obligation to deliver a car to you?

It's free money for her, and proof that he's not very smart and can be taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]Exactly that. That girl I was talking to was in the fence about sex, tried the help me platonic relationship thing but with some convincing and after talking on video she was a bit more comfortable to do it the whole thing (helps that I don't look bad and not a creep). I have no doubt that she will try to milk the m&g money as much as possible now.

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7425348]Please post photos / screenshots your top girls from Seeking..[/QUOTE]You first.

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7425348]Please post photos / screenshots your top girls from Seeking.[/QUOTE]Mario is a goddamned hero. Taking all this shade, being cool about it, and basically saying "Yep, fine, whatever. Let's just post pics and trade intel."

Outstanding.

You already know this, but not for nothing: It's your money and it's your dick. You do you. Literally nothing else matters.

[QUOTE=Runner2448;7425166]Exactly that. That girl I was talking to was in the fence about sex, tried the help me platonic relationship thing but with some convincing and after talking on video she was a bit more comfortable to do it the whole thing (helps that I don't look bad and not a creep). I have no doubt that she will try to milk the m&g money as much as possible now.[/QUOTE]I also think there's a component here that no one has mentioned yet and that is us getting intel on the girl. If you have a SB that will not meet without a paid meet then you know that she is only interested in the money and will very likely be doing the bare minimum she can to get as much out of you as possible. She's going to have a shitty, all-business attitude in most cases and looks at you as nothing more than an ATM and will treat you accordingly.

However, one that will meet for a vibe check without payment very likely wants more than just the money and this will lead to better experiences. I am under no illusions that the money isn't a requirement but I've had some extraordinary experiences with SBs who have convinced themselves that they aren't engaging in prostitution because they like me or think there's a 'connection. ' Recently had an encounter that was some of the best sex of my life with one like this. We spent several hours fucking and she was out the door when I called her back to give her the greenbacks.

There is also the fact that there are women that will respect you for holding your ground and saying no. I've definitely had this experience in the past. A polite but firm refusal to pay for a m&g can sometimes make her more interested. No woman has any respect for a simp.

Either way, the ones who refuse to meet without payment for a meet are very likely to be the worst experience so what is the point of meeting them? No matter what you're going to be wasting your time and money even if there is sex to be had it's going to be less than what you can get elsewhere for less.

Just say no.

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7425348]Please post photos / screenshots your top girls from Seeking.


[URL]Seeking.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]RTFF, dude.

At least Angelina's new profile pic shows more of her natural look.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8e2a9d5-9991-4a92-8766-1a33002a57c4[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4d90b36-d834-439c-9759-33b4e63fabed[/URL]

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/aberdeen-wa/female-escorts/caucasian_w/feelin-real-naughty-n-horny-th/127263282620[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7425738]At least Angelina's new profile pic shows more of her natural look.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8e2a9d5-9991-4a92-8766-1a33002a57c4[/URL][/QUOTE]Jesus, give it up. She's a complete boner-killer.

You are absolutely right, the best experiences I've ever had from SA cost nothing more than a bottle of cheap booze. The best you can hope for with a girl wanting a paid meet and greet is 1 k+ for 20 min of starfish position.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7425578]However, one that will meet for a vibe check without payment very likely wants more than just the money and this will lead to better experiences. I am under no illusions that the money isn't a requirement but I've had some extraordinary experiences with SBs who have convinced themselves that they aren't engaging in prostitution because they like me or think there's a 'connection. ' Recently had an encounter that was some of the best sex of my life with one like this. We spent several hours fucking and she was out the door when I called her back to give her the greenbacks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7425801][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4d90b36-d834-439c-9759-33b4e63fabed[/URL]

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/aberdeen-wa/female-escorts/caucasian_w/feelin-real-naughty-n-horny-th/127263282620[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/members/samanthasextoy.635295/[/URL]#xfmgMedia.

Samanthasextoy.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7425802]Jesus, give it up. She's a complete boner-killer.[/QUOTE]That pic is down right scary looking. Perfect for Halloween coming up if your into the ghouls look LOL.

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7425738]At least Angelina's new profile pic shows more of her natural look.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8e2a9d5-9991-4a92-8766-1a33002a57c4[/URL][/QUOTE]At this point I am going to start thinking you are her. This can't be real.

[QUOTE=MarioBrother;7425738]At least Angelina's new profile pic shows more of her natural look.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8e2a9d5-9991-4a92-8766-1a33002a57c4[/URL][/QUOTE]Her totally natural lips? Her totally natural implants?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6bbc3b64-9e61-45a3-b513-f8f7dec83e0c[/URL]

Any experience with this one?

All I do is have a list. Girls who show up and fuck are pretty high on the list. How high is a question of how cute they are, how much they will cost me, how many skills they bring to the table, and how much trouble they will inevitably be for me.

Girls who want a compensated M&G are further down the list.

Girls who are clearly psychotic, who hit me up for money from the start, who obviously never want to meet in the flesh, are obvious drug addicts, or who are physically unattractive in one way or another go to the bottom.

Oh, and girls who are asking for ridiculously high levels of compensation obviously just don't want to meet up or put any effort into it at all so they are way down the list.

[QUOTE=BoredTooEasily;7425511]Mario is a goddamned hero. Taking all this shade, being cool about it, and basically saying "Yep, fine, whatever. Let's just post pics and trade intel."

[/QUOTE]Coming to a web site and saying "hey let's do precisely what this website was built for" doesn't really impress me. I think Mario needs to learn a bit more about the game we're all playing so he doesn't get played.

Been mentioned here before. Some of you said she's "way too fat" but I also know how harshly you judge and will call any girl without a 6-pack "chunky". I like a lot of body types including a curvy, thick but not fat, girl but we clearly disagree on what constitutes fat. Some extra padding can be sexy and some of you pervs are missing out but to each their own.

So I reached out and took a shot. Seems eager over text, came to an agreement and made plans for a couple days out. Verified day of and I drove an hour to a hotel near her. Then it was "oh, are you there?" Yeah, I told you what time I'd arrive. Oh, I have to get ready, it will be 30-45 minutes. This pissed me off but I was there so I waited.

A few minutes later she asked for a picture of the money. Huh? When I ask why she said she's been scammed before and wants to see the money and how the best situations have been where the guy has just had the money on the nightstand when she walks in. I responded how I've had women walk in, grab the money, and leave. (I haven't but I know it happens) The she said she just need to see it when she arrived.

At this point I was definitely not going to show her the money without some form of LEO check because my spidey sense was tingling. She had asked me a couple times to let her know what room I was in and I didn't react to that request at all but kept texting her about when she was going to arrive. Never had any intention of getting a room until I saw her in person in case she really was too fat! She said she was getting in the shower and then went completely radio silent.

After several texts asking if she was ready I said that I was leaving and still nothing. Very fucking odd especially since I was getting all the pleas for assistance with rent the previous couple days which I did not do, of course. Also fairly sure she didn't show up and see me and leave because i was in a very secluded, shaded spot and there was very little activity in the area. She was also online on the site when I got back to my place.

Ho-dar says she's a scammer / rob but a shitty and amateurish one. I will verify what others have said, though. The pics on the site are or old or are shopped to look about 20-30 lbs lighter than the pics she will send you in text.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d6d39d3-38f0-4ac9-8bd4-ad2872c3d577[/URL]

[QUOTE=Runner2448;7425993]At this point I am going to start thinking you are her. This can't be real.[/QUOTE]I think you are right, I read through all of Mario's posts and they are almost all about Angelina including the most recent one in the Vegas forum saying she is visiting there. Why would he feel it necessary to post that there? And now her profile is taken down on SA.

"Vegas visit.
Looks like Angelina is visiting again:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8e2a9d5-9991-4a92-8766-1a33002a57c4[/URL]"

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[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7428575]Been mentioned here before. Some of you said she's "way too fat" but I also know how harshly you judge and will call any girl without a 6-pack "chunky". I like a lot of body types including a curvy, thick but not fat, girl but we clearly disagree on what constitutes fat. Some extra padding can be sexy and some of you pervs are missing out but to each their own.

So I reached out and took a shot. Seems eager over text, came to an agreement and made plans for a couple days out. Verified day of and I drove an hour to a hotel near her. Then it was "oh, are you there?" Yeah, I told you what time I'd arrive. Oh, I have to get ready, it will be 30-45 minutes. This pissed me off but I was there so I waited.

A few minutes later she asked for a picture of the money. Huh? When I ask why she said she's been scammed before and wants to see the money and how the best situations have been where the guy has just had the money on the nightstand when she walks in. I responded how I've had women walk in, grab the money, and leave. (I haven't but I know it happens) The she said she just need to see it when she arrived.

At this point I was definitely not going to show her the money without some form of LEO check because my spidey sense was tingling. She had asked me a couple times to let her know what room I was in and I didn't react to that request at all but kept texting her about when she was going to arrive. Never had any intention of getting a room until I saw her in person in case she really was too fat! She said she was getting in the shower and then went completely radio silent.

After several texts asking if she was ready I said that I was leaving and still nothing. Very fucking odd especially since I was getting all the pleas for assistance with rent the previous couple days which I did not do, of course. Also fairly sure she didn't show up and see me and leave because i was in a very secluded, shaded spot and there was very little activity in the area. She was also online on the site when I got back to my place.

Ho-dar says she's a scammer / rob but a shitty and amateurish one. I will verify what others have said, though. The pics on the site are or old or are shopped to look about 20-30 lbs lighter than the pics she will send you in text.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d6d39d3-38f0-4ac9-8bd4-ad2872c3d577[/URL][/QUOTE]I posted something about her cause she is also on SB. She was pitching the same thing about needing the money. Wanted me to send money so she can send me content first until we could meet up. Never sent her the money. Sucks that happened to you but thanks for doing a write up of her.

[QUOTE=Pawghtr16;7428819]I posted something about her cause she is also on SB. She was pitching the same thing about needing the money. Wanted me to send money so she can send me content first until we could meet up. Never sent her the money. Sucks that happened to you but thanks for doing a write up of her.[/QUOTE]I lost a couple hours with traffic. It's part of the game. Not out any money. Pretty sure she was setting me up for a grab and dash maybe with a partner because of her repeatedly asking me what room I was in. When I mentioned that I'd had girls grab the money and run out she responded with "Oh wow! I don't think I'd ever have the balls to do that!" with a big smiley face which convinced me that was exactly what she was planning.

So my best guess is that she knew I'd be on the lookout for that and decided it wasn't worth the confrontation/risk.

Started chatting with this one, switched to text quickly. Seemed cool and we got to discussing amounts fairly quickly. She didn't want to say an amount so I offered what is pretty much what I have offered in the past. She came back with 600-1000 depending on what we did. When I told her that I wasn't comfortable with that much she said we could start at 600 and go from there. Pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de3df49a-888c-4b54-b8ba-d548cdc22bec[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7430437]Started chatting with this one, switched to text quickly. Seemed cool and we got to discussing amounts fairly quickly. She didn't want to say an amount so I offered what is pretty much what I have offered in the past. She came back with 600-1000 depending on what we did. When I told her that I wasn't comfortable with that much she said we could start at 600 and go from there. Pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de3df49a-888c-4b54-b8ba-d548cdc22bec[/URL][/QUOTE]Even when I have the opportunity to do those amounts I profusely refuse to even entertain those offers.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7430437]Started chatting with this one, switched to text quickly. Seemed cool and we got to discussing amounts fairly quickly. She didn't want to say an amount so I offered what is pretty much what I have offered in the past. She came back with 600-1000 depending on what we did. When I told her that I wasn't comfortable with that much she said we could start at 600 and go from there. Pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de3df49a-888c-4b54-b8ba-d548cdc22bec[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely not worth it. Good response.

[QUOTE=Pawghtr16;7428819]I posted something about her cause she is also on SB. She was pitching the same thing about needing the money. Wanted me to send money so she can send me content first until we could meet up. Never sent her the money. Sucks that happened to you but thanks for doing a write up of her.[/QUOTE]You both dodged a bullet. She got beat by the ugly stick. Needs like 10 k worth of dental work. She is UGLY, has absolutely no time management skills, and is just one of the worst experiences I have ever had in seeking. Stop giving this fat piece of crap the time of day.

This one literally has a pro ad on her profile, LOL. Not interested in her but just had a laugh that she got that profile approved. "The Asian luxury provider you've been looking for".

They are so goddamned strict with some things (if you put the word 'arrangement' in a DM they will pop up a warning) but they let this through, LOL. Also she's clearly got a massive case of GPS from the way her ad is written. And naming yourself after a disney character is a massive turn off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c60437ce-e2d0-4d1a-9052-6e9070c5de94[/URL]

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7430841]This one literally has a pro ad on her profile, LOL. Not interested in her but just had a laugh that she got that profile approved. "The Asian luxury provider you've been looking for".

They are so goddamned strict with some things (if you put the word 'arrangement' in a DM they will pop up a warning) but they let this through, LOL. Also she's clearly got a massive case of GPS from the way her ad is written. And naming yourself after a disney character is a massive turn off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c60437ce-e2d0-4d1a-9052-6e9070c5de94[/URL][/QUOTE]Agree, this is a straight up escort ad, worthy of tryst.

The hypocrisy of Seeking is why they don't get my money.

To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ".

NSA. No Strings Attached.

Has anyone else found some (or many) women on SA actually believe that NSA means that the arrangement comes with no expectations (strings) for them to do anything? In the past month, I've had multiple conversations with people trying to redefine the term to mean that.

Like what? Just me?

[QUOTE=CameraShy;7431231]Has anyone else found some (or many) women on SA actually believe that NSA means that the arrangement comes with no expectations (strings) for them to do anything?[/QUOTE]Who hasn't found that is the easier question to answer. To us NSA (rightly) means there is no obligation outside the terms of the arrangement but within the arrangement there are definitely expectations around service for compensation. A lot of women think it means we pay them just for drawing breath.

On the other hand, I've also found women who do get it and enjoy those expectations, those are great situations.

[QUOTE=CameraShy;7431231]To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ".

NSA. No Strings Attached.

Has anyone else found some (or many) women on SA actually believe that NSA means that the arrangement comes with no expectations (strings) for them to do anything? In the past month, I've had multiple conversations with people trying to redefine the term to mean that.[/QUOTE]No, not just you. I have seen an increase on those "platonic only". Like why would I feed you, drink, take trips. And on top of that give you anything?

[QUOTE=CameraShy;7431231]To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ".

NSA. No Strings Attached.

Has anyone else found some (or many) women on SA actually believe that NSA means that the arrangement comes with no expectations (strings) for them to do anything? In the past month, I've had multiple conversations with people trying to redefine the term to mean that.

Like what? Just me?[/QUOTE]Every woman I've met on SA where NSA was a topic of discussion understood it to mean no emotional attachments ie she's not looking for a boyfriend and I'm not looking for a girlfriend and it was well understood that the arrangement would come with certain obligations that both sides had to fulfill.

[QUOTE=CameraShy;7431231]To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ".

NSA. No Strings Attached.

Has anyone else found some (or many) women on SA actually believe that NSA means that the arrangement comes with no expectations (strings) for them to do anything? In the past month, I've had multiple conversations with people trying to redefine the term to mean that.

Like what? Just me?[/QUOTE]Yes, the NSA acronym means nothing.

To some it clearly means "no emotional attachment".

To others it means "I don't have to do anything".

To others it means "NSA, you know, NSA" -- which is even less meaningful.

[QUOTE=Markro3000;7431433]Yes, the NSA acronym means nothing.

To some it clearly means "no emotional attachment".

To others it means "I don't have to do anything".

To others it means "NSA, you know, NSA" -- which is even less meaningful.[/QUOTE]I have a formula that I loosely follow when I first start talking to them to get them to offer details first. Usually if they say 'NSA' before I do then about 90% of the time it means they are using the same way I am.

Throwing this one back after a trial run. Too young for me- the conversation style and content had me rolling my eyes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/87b94337-89e6-460f-9e6c-9b47977a8423[/URL]

19, asked her for ID before I let her in and it all looked legit, she looks very questionable on age so had to be sure. She even has a light lisp to make her seem even younger which was a challenge for me. Rougher looking in person. Huge (for her size, she's short) but firm black-girl-ass, decent tits, maybe a C, but not big enough for decent Russian, tried and quickly gave up. Almost no BBBJ skills, another reason why I don't chase a lot of yung'uns is their lack of experience, the best part of the BJ was her hand.

But she's a super freak who absolutely loves to fuck and her kink is breeding. Walked in pulled her pants off with barely a hello. Claims to be on BC but there's no way to verify of course. 3 bens for as much time as I wanted. Filled her twice and tried my damndest to bust in her mouth for the third but junior was being a lazy kunt . But she never quit working on me and was begging for the load.

She's extremely open about fucking a lot of dudes and is basically a pro but with an honestly great attitude, she was into it as much as I was if not more. If she were a bit mature and hotter she'd be s-tier.

I might go back when I need a low-effort release for that price but she's not going into regular rotation, not that I need an SB to be an MIT grad but jesus christ be able to talk about something other than instagram for fuck's sake. To be clear she wasn't bad in any way but I couldn't handle how immature she sounded.

Go fill her up, you'll make her very happy.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7431914]Throwing this one back after a trial run. Too young for me- the conversation style and content had me rolling my eyes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/87b94337-89e6-460f-9e6c-9b47977a8423[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I used to see her from time to time. It was honestly exhausting and not in a good way.

[QUOTE=Markro3000;7431992]I used to see her from time to time. It was honestly exhausting and not in a good way.[/QUOTE]Major Pro.

[QUOTE=Markro3000;7430984]Agree, this is a straight up escort ad, worthy of tryst.

The hypocrisy of Seeking is why they don't get my money.[/QUOTE]Using different text fonts gets it thought seeking moderation.

If anyone had any experience with her:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/87b94337-89e6-460f-9e6c-9b47977a8423[/URL]

It shows she has been on the site for 9 years.