[QUOTE=Nighthawk55]But the chances of bumping into my boss / father-in-law / neighbor / church pastor / co-worker are a lot less.[/QUOTE]
True dat....and seeing them naked in the locker room too.
Printable View
[QUOTE=Nighthawk55]But the chances of bumping into my boss / father-in-law / neighbor / church pastor / co-worker are a lot less.[/QUOTE]
True dat....and seeing them naked in the locker room too.
[QUOTE=Nighthawk55]But the chances of bumping into my boss / father-in-law / neighbor / church pastor / co-worker are a lot less.[/QUOTE]What do you really think they could say if they saw you? You know why they are there.
While I think Dart's creativity about suing CL will have little to no impact on the overall prostitution business, you cannot disregard all the crap LE sees from the other side: the young women duped or forced into the business, the violence they see, the ties to drugs and addiction, young girls who know no better taken advantage of by scum. You cannot see this crap on the street every day and not want to make it better. (I am NOT talking about consensual sex for money between adults who are consciously making the choice to engage).
Dart himself said on a radio interview last week that prostitution has been around for thousands of years and he does not see it ending. But he is concerned about the welfare of the women he sees as having no choice.
You don't have to be LE to agree with some of his viewpoints. I'm not LE and I can find validity in some of what he is saying. We will all be better served if he does in fact prevent some of these abuses.
Chi
[QUOTE=Marak5]Not!
Only worse are the CPD.
He's going to shut down prostitution in cook county? Sure Tom! Next step, cut off every guys dick!
This sucks for the low budget monger. The upper income can afford escorts in hotels. How is the little guy supposed to get his?
I guess 1 girl got strangled off there which is sad but cook county is a large county. All the better to regulate the massage parlors and put something up like fkk in germany or the brothels in reno.
This is a battle that can't be won and never will be won, especially not by the sheriffs of cook county. Even todd stroger has been caught laughing out loud at the sheriffs. Tom Dart wants to put out a forest fire with a cup of water.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicag0]While I think Dart's creativity about suing CL will have little to no impact on the overall prostitution business, you cannot disregard all the crap LE sees from the other side: the young women duped or forced into the business, the violence they see, the ties to drugs and addiction, young girls who know no better taken advantage of by scum. You cannot see this crap on the street every day and not want to make it better. (I am NOT talking about consensual sex for money between adults who are consciously making the choice to engage).
Dart himself said on a radio interview last week that prostitution has been around for thousands of years and he does not see it ending. But he is concerned about the welfare of the women he sees as having no choice.
You don't have to be LE to agree with some of his viewpoints. I'm not LE and I can find validity in some of what he is saying. We will all be better served if he does in fact prevent some of these abuses.
Chi[/QUOTE]Now that's what I call a liberal.
So I made my way over to senina on friday night to take the 4 hand plunge. Got Lisa (who I had seen before but didnt remember her name) and another girl with a L name, but i cant remember it. I walked upstairs to see all of the girls watching TV( if i would have know they were slow I could of had my pick of the litter). Once I saw lisa i remembered her, unfortunelty. She give a poor massage, pinching and moving around, and moving to quickly. The other girl was good, but it was to hard to focus on just one girl. Good finish I suppose, although the other girl didnt seem to be to much into it. paid about what I though I would have upon previous posts. Overall Id say the expierence was a 7.5 might repeat some day, but definelty with different girls.
[QUOTE=Humpty Hump]My find, young early 20's college student. Perfect English. 5' 7" 115lbs porcelain skin, very attractive. Square shaped glasses and long brown hair. Looks like a normal trendy Asian girl you would see hanging out in CT drinking bubble tea with her friends.
Didn't offer the full menu, pretty positive she would for a repeat visitor - side conversation we had, but did offer to remove t n b for bbbj. She admitted that she was a little expensive but offered a discount for next time. 40 for 30 + 1. Very cute giggle, and said I never do this.[/QUOTE]It sounds amazing if true.
[QUOTE=Fumfn69]Now that's what I call a liberal.[/QUOTE]More like a conservative Christian.
There is no doubt exploitation goes on. As a monger, you have to decide if you can live with that. However, ALL pros are certainly not exploited.
It it looks like the girls who staff your local AMP live there, they are being exploited. If they can come and go, not so much. If your escort speaks no English, chances are... exploited. If she speaks English and works out of her own apartment, not so much.
You have to decide how much you care.
Prositution is not victimless, but, in total numbers, pales compared to the crap that goes on in Cook Co. There are more crooked cops operating in Cook county than sex workers.
[QUOTE=Chicag0]While I think Dart's creativity about suing CL will have little to no impact on the overall prostitution business, you cannot disregard all the crap LE sees from the other side: the young women duped or forced into the business, the violence they see, the ties to drugs and addiction, young girls who know no better taken advantage of by scum. You cannot see this crap on the street every day and not want to make it better. (I am NOT talking about consensual sex for money between adults who are consciously making the choice to engage).
Dart himself said on a radio interview last week that prostitution has been around for thousands of years and he does not see it ending. But he is concerned about the welfare of the women he sees as having no choice.
You don't have to be LE to agree with some of his viewpoints. I'm not LE and I can find validity in some of what he is saying. We will all be better served if he does in fact prevent some of these abuses.
Chi[/QUOTE]The very act of criminalizing prostitution, just like prohibition and the criminalization of drugs, has led to an increase in violent crimes. The act of prostitution in and of itself, when consented to by two or more adults being of sound mind, does not violate the rights of any other person. Therefore, the act itself should not be illegal. The violence toward providers and the involuntary servitude are separate acts that should be divorced from prostitution and should be pursued vigorously by the people who are paid to protect us from the aggressions and undue influence of others. If those people who are charged with these crimes are given a fair trial and found guilty of the charges, they should be punished to the full extent of the law.
I'm not gonna sit here and defend the morality of prostitution. Anyone who participates willingly in prostitution, whether the provider or the customer, assumes all the risks and responsiblities that go along with it such as disease, unplanned pregnancies, etc. It is not, nor should it ever be, the government's duty to protect a consenting adult from himself and his own actions.
Well said Chi,
CHI GUY FOR MAYOR WHOS WITH ME!!!
Cook Co. Sheriff's Police are under executive order not to ask about immigration status of those they arrest. If they know someone is an illegal, based upon their normal observational skills, they cannot do anything about it. Everytime an illegal is put thru the "catch and release" Cook County legal system, and then commits more crimes, the fault is Tom Dart's for not having taken this illegal scumbag out of circulation. Can we sue Tom Dart for this?
Under most circumstances, prostitution is between two consenting adults. What is the crime here? The sex or the paying of money? If it is sex, then monitor singles bars and create the bedroom police. If it is generosity, I will no longer donate to police charities for fear my monetary donation will be taken as an attempt to receive better, friendlier service. If giving pretty girls monetary attention in hopes of a happy ending is illegal, then we will put countless trendy restaurants out of business. How about it Dart: Sue restaurant owners along with Craig's List?
So, what was the cost??? (Post or PM is fine[QUOTE=TheWoodButcher]So I made my way over to senina on friday night to take the 4 hand plunge. Got Lisa (who I had seen before but didnt remember her name) and another girl with a L name, but i cant remember it. I walked upstairs to see all of the girls watching TV( if i would have know they were slow I could of had my pick of the litter). Once I saw lisa i remembered her, unfortunelty. She give a poor massage, pinching and moving around, and moving to quickly. The other girl was good, but it was to hard to focus on just one girl. Good finish I suppose, although the other girl didnt seem to be to much into it. paid about what I though I would have upon previous posts. Overall Id say the expierence was a 7.5 might repeat some day, but definelty with different girls.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone ever visited this girl? I've seen her posts for a while and just wondered if she delivers. PM me if you like.
Thanks
[url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ers/1073014359.html[/url]
So far I have been called a conservative Christian and a liberal for my views. I am going to run for an Illinois Senate seat. I seem to have both bases covered. When I throw in that I will legalize pot and prostitution, I can't miss!
[QUOTE=Nighthawk55]More like a conservative Christian.
There is no doubt exploitation goes on. As a monger, you have to decide if you can live with that. However, ALL pros are certainly not exploited.
It it looks like the girls who staff your local AMP live there, they are being exploited. If they can come and go, not so much. If your escort speaks no English, chances are... exploited. If she speaks English and works out of her own apartment, not so much.
You have to decide how much you care.
Prositution is not victimless, but, in total numbers, pales compared to the crap that goes on in Cook Co. There are more crooked cops operating in Cook county than sex workers.[/QUOTE]
I went to Ace Spa in Downers Grove for the second time in 4 or 5 years, so I guess I can say this is a new report for me. I don't get out that way too often. I don't rememebr it having a sign out front the last time. But it was not bad. Nice spa, ts, etc. 70 at the door, 40ish, lots of questions as part of the conversation. I must have passed because I left with a HR smile for 60. It could be worth going back, but the time was cut a little short. The tip was a bit much after looking at my watch.
For $60 you werent the only one smiling. Well over the standard $40.