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[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1353786]As gorgeous as she was (and I have not fucked a woman of Indian descent) I had to let it go. For me two dinner dates would mean at least 3 weeks without SB pussy. To high a price to pay[/QUOTE]And there ends the lesson. You the man!
Cmdr out
With my new SB their were other signs."I am a waitress and part time dancer". So now Big head says where is the upsale. After 30 minutes small talk she says what are you doing later and I should have pounced. Oh well. Live and learn.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1351799]This whole SB thing has caused me to look at HYBs in a different manner. Before I would ogle them discretely and think for a second or two how fun it would be to bang them. Now, as I have come to understand how broad the SB world is, I wonder to myself when I see an HYB if she might be on SA, and I could find her profile. It lends a greater sense of concreteness to my musings, making them a lot more fun. Not an earth-shattering observation, but more of an added perk kind of thing.
Scott[/QUOTE]This made me think of a situation I had over the holidays. I went to the wardens work Christmas party at which were numerous researchers, residents, young Drs and clerical staff. Having attended previous years, I knew there would be numerous HYB's in attendance. In the past I skulked around secretly drooling and depressed over what I could not have. This year was totally different. When the sweet blonde reached for a drink and her dressed hugged that body I smiled and thought "I just had one like that last month." When the hot Hispanic intern with the wonderful ass bent over to pick fom the sandwich table I smiled and thought "My hispanic SB was built just like you. Crazy as hell but boy could she fuck." When the tall, with legs-to-die-for, African American Dr crossed her legs as she sat down at the bar and I glimsped those wonderful thighs I smiled and thought "I have a AA SB whose taller then you whose thighs were wrapped around my ears last week." No depression; no drooling; no skulking. Just the sweet inner satisfaction that can only come from banging SB's. When you're my age and you've had the cum of a 18 year old run down your thighs, the universe is a wonderful place.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1353760]Lit,
If it were me, I would let her know you're still interested, but that you have considerably more experience than when she left in March, and while you may have agreed to 1K then,"x" is the going sugar amount, and is what you are comfortable with now. My guess is that she will acquiesce if you are firm (no pun intended) with her, but as has been stated earlier, you must be prepared to walk away, no matter how loudly Mr J protests. Remind him there's always another baby just around the corner who can be had within your target zone.
Let us know as things develop.
Scott[/QUOTE]Yeah I like this approach. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1353765]My position on pre discussions of sugar has evolved over time. In the beginning I wouldn't discuss it. If they insisted I was out of there. Now I try not to but I will if pushed. Since going to SA I find the pickings are better but they all seem to insist on it. ***Where I'm at now is if it helps them to open their thighs, why not.[/QUOTE]This sounds sensible. My point was you often don't have to talk about the sugar. As for SA, my recollection is that you are supposed to put how much you can pay every month in your profile, so that encourages sugar talk. I'm not a purist. My atf sb4 talks about it all the time, my other atf sb18 never mentioned it.
[QUOTE=Bondo500;1353880]With my new SB their were other signs."I am a waitress and part time dancer". So now Big head says where is the upsale. After 30 minutes small talk she says what are you doing later and I should have pounced. Oh well. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]Bondo, I think if you read through the posts on this thread you will find some good ideas for handling different situations with sbs as well as the answer to your question why we like them better than escorts.
[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1354076]This made me think of a situation I had over the holidays. I went to the wardens work Christmas party at which were numerous researchers, residents, young Drs and clerical staff. Having attended previous years, I knew there would be numerous HYB's in attendance. In the past I skulked around secretly drooling and depressed over what I could not have. This year was totally different. When the sweet blonde reached for a drink and her dressed hugged that body I smiled and thought "I just had one like that last month." When the hot Hispanic intern with the wonderful ass bent over to pick fom the sandwich table I smiled and thought "My hispanic SB was built just like you. Crazy as hell but boy could she fuck." When the tall, with legs-to-die-for, African American Dr crossed her legs as she sat down at the bar and I glimsped those wonderful thighs I smiled and thought "I have a AA SB whose taller then you whose thighs were wrapped around my ears last week." No depression; no drooling; no skulking. Just the sweet inner satisfaction that can only come from banging SB's. When you're my age and you've had the cum of a 18 year old run down your thighs, the universe is a wonderful place.[/QUOTE]It's a wonderful place because females are in it. When I meet an attractive, nicely dressed woman, I look in her eyes while she's talking and think about what's between her legs.
[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1353786](Edit Delete) I had been communicating with a drop dead gorgeous Indian woman. (Edit Delete) (A)nyway after several back and forth I was clear that she required a couple of dinners before the thighs would open. As gorgeous as she was (and I have not fucked a woman of Indian descent) I had to let it go. For me two dinner dates would mean at least 3 weeks without SB pussy. To high a price to pay[/QUOTE]I like to take beautiful women to dinner and I would have taken her to dinner. That is what she said she needed to be comfortable. I would have let her pick out the restaurants.
P. S. She would have paid very close attention to how I treated the wait staff.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1354150]I like to take beautiful women to dinner and I would have taken her to dinner. That is what she said she needed to be comfortable. I would have let her pick out the restaurants.
P. S. She would have paid very close attention to how I treated the wait staff.[/QUOTE]Golf, I'm glad you mentioned treatment of the wait staff. That's a good explanation for me as to why I like to take potential SBs to lunch / dinner to determine chemistry. I completely walked away from a potential SB once when she was abusive to our waiter for no reason when we first met. It was insane how she acted. I was convinced the waiter went back to the kitchen and told the chef to spit in our food. It was that bad and very embarrassing.
As I've posted before, what I'm looking for is a bit different than most - I think. I'm looking for a long-term SB for more than just the bedroom activities, so chemistry and the ability to adapt to varied settings is important for me. I like to know that when we go out, her behavior is appropriate for whatever situation we're in.
So 95% of the profiles on SA write about travel and fun and on and on. But looks like the experience here is the travelis to the FC to pound their brains out. So do you avoid all the syrup and go for the NSA ones (not many) or is it all just a "front"?
[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1354076]When you're my age and you've had the cum of a 18 year old run down your thighs, the universe is a wonderful place.[/QUOTE]I went back through your posts to see if you wrote this one up, but I didn't find it. Did I miss it? It sounds like a good story.
[QUOTE=Bondo500;1354321]So 95% of the profiles on SA write about travel and fun and on and on. But looks like the experience here is the travelis to the FC to pound their brains out. So do you avoid all the syrup and go for the NSA ones (not many) or is it all just a "front"?[/QUOTE]Bondo,
My experience with what a baby writes on her profile page is that this is her "ideal" situation, the "Prince Charming" scenario, and while you can't just ignore it, I have always proceeded with the assumption that the most important first goal is to get a reply, and not to make sure that their description matches me to a tee. Once you engage in dialogue, you have a chance to plead your case, so to speak, and the seduction begins.
A very hot baby that I successfully bedded told me something that I always think of when communicating with these little fish: "A man falls in love with through his eyes, a woman falls in love through her ears." Something like that; it sounded much better the way she said it, actually, but the point I think she was trying to make is that we men can never forget that the primary channel of communication preferred by these babies is vocal.
Just hitting the NSA ones is tempting, but I have not found them any easier to bed than the "Prince Charming" ones; you still got to talk to them and work your game that way.
Good luck, and don't forget to write,
Scott
[QUOTE=Literal2;1354390]I went back through your posts to see if you wrote this one up, but I didn't find it. Did I miss it? It sounds like a good story.[/QUOTE]No Lit you didn't miss it. I'm going to try andget it out today. I have four I need to report on. Life is good.
[QUOTE=Bondo500;1354321]So 95% of the profiles on SA write about travel and fun and on and on. But looks like the experience here is the travelis to the FC to pound their brains out. So do you avoid all the syrup and go for the NSA ones (not many) or is it all just a "front"?[/QUOTE]Bondo I don't care what they say in their profile unless it specifically says "no sex." I'm not trying to talk anyone in to having sex if they don't want to. If they've decide to give it up, I just want to talk them in to giving it to me. I do pay close attention to what the say in our direct commmunication. To me, that's what counts.
Coolhand
[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1354442]No Lit you didn't miss it. I'm going to try andget it out today. I have four I need to report on. Life is good.[/QUOTE]Four nice fish in the pan. Sounds pretty tasty.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1354391]Bondo,
My experience with what a baby writes on her profile page is that this is her "ideal" situation, the "Prince Charming" scenario, and while you can't just ignore it, I have always proceeded with the assumption that the most important first goal is to get a reply, and not to make sure that their description matches me to a tee. Once you engage in dialogue, you have a chance to plead your case, so to speak, and the seduction begins.
A very hot baby that I successfully bedded told me something that I always think of when communicating with these little fish: "A man falls in love with through his eyes, a woman falls in love through her ears." Something like that; it sounded much better the way she said it, actually, but the point I think she was trying to make is that we men can never forget that the primary channel of communication preferred by these babies is vocal.
Just hitting the NSA ones is tempting, but I have not found them any easier to bed than the "Prince Charming" ones; you still got to talk to them and work your game that way.
Good luck, and don't forget to write,
Scott[/QUOTE]This is good advice. The only thing I would add is that when you are first trying to make contact, I found it helped me to show I wasn't a robo-mailer by using some language from her profile. Once she responds, my experience is just as Scott and Cool say.
[QUOTE=Literal2;1354484]The only thing I would add is that when you are first trying to make contact, I found it helped me to show I wasn't a robo-mailer by using some language from her profile. Once she responds, my experience is just as Scott and Cool say.[/QUOTE]Right on. It doesn't have to be much, but some inclusion that shows you read their text. I found that the more I said in the initial contact, the lower my response rate was. Three or four well-crafted sentences to start out with, and then on the second contact I allow myself a little more room to stretch out. The seduction has begun by this point, and you need to have your wits about you.
On another topic, I have started to email with that Latina spinner that used to work for me. Now before you attack, here is my plan: I will rely on the anonymity of the SA site and the internet in general (remember I do not use my real name, or even one close to my real name, on the site and obviously will not send her any photo that shows my face) to flirt with her for a while, with the goal of getting her to send me some naked pictures of herself, which I can then use for all sorts of fantasy games. If all I get is dirty talk,that may just suffice. The game is already afoot, and I must say I am finding it extremely enjoyable. The only problem for me is that it has once again planted the idea in my head of fucking hot Latina spinners, so I am simultaneously pursuing another one, a body double if you will, with whom I have plans to meet on Monday for coffee. She has already indicated that if things go well, we could easily repair to her apartment for some hot yoga instruction. What a great world this is, no?
Keep up the good work, and keep on posting.
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott;1354496]I have started to email with that Latina spinner that used to work for me. Now before you attack, here is my plan: I will rely on the anonymity of the SA site and the internet in general (remember I do not use my real name, or even one close to my real name, on the site and obviously will not send her any photo that shows my face) to flirt with her for a while, with the goal of getting her to send me some naked pictures of herself, which I can then use for all sorts of fantasy games. If all I get is dirty talk,that may just suffice. The game is already afoot, and I must say I am finding it extremely enjoyable. The only problem for me is that it has once again planted the idea in my head of fucking hot Latina spinners, so I am simultaneously pursuing another one, a body double if you will, with whom I have plans to meet on Monday for coffee. She has already indicated that if things go well, we could easily repair to her apartment for some hot yoga instruction. What a great world this is, no?[/QUOTE]I like that game. There's something about anonymously seducing a girl you know that's exciting. Like you were feeling up your neighbor's wife in a dark theater. Her body responds to your touch but she doesn't even know it is you. Sex is like electricity, it runs through everybody all the time. When you seduce a girl anonymously, or through a fictional identity, you strip the insulation off the power cord.
You are plenty smart enough so don't let me lead you into something you will regret. Your approach to your former subordinate is partly fantasy anyway. Watch out. Why not extend your effort with the girl you truly and secretly lust for? Get her to meet you someplace it's hard to see your features clearly. Wear a simple disguise. Glasses, hat. Speak as little as possible, using a fake accent. Explain for security you can only spend a few minutes with her in public. Have a prepared fucking chamber nearby. Say you love a romantic encounter. Slip her a key and ask her to precede you, turn out all lights and wait for you in bed. Tell her to help herself to the open bottle of champagne in the ice bucket and pour you a glass. Mention there is a small gift for her on the bedside table but not to open it. Give her 15 minutes, then quietly enter the room using another key. Turn on the ipod you left hooked up to some speakers near the door. Remove your clothes in the dark, creep into bed beside her and fuck her violently, making sure she cums at least twice. While she's recovering from her ecstasy, or maybe just using the bathroom, quietly put your clothes back on and leave. Be sure to pick up the ipod. Don't worry about the speakers, she'll never take them. You won't have much time so I suggest you chug the glass of champagne on your way out. This should enhance the effect.
See, it's all planned. All you have to do is figure out what music to load in the ipod and what's in the gift box.
Please report back to the group when you're done. Of course, please continue writing up all your other excellent adventures as well.
CSB13 (18yrs. 5'6, C cup pierced, just above spinner body) I have now moved to SA from SD4Me. This fresh face 18 yr old caught my eye. She had been on SA only three weeks. Series of back and forth texts to finally agreed to meet. There was no discussion of sugar on either side. She had one M&G since being on SA and said the guy was a "creep" I was the second. She said she lived with her Mother and had no car so I was going to have to pick her up. Procured a FC fairly close to where she lived. She wanted me to pick her up in the parking lot of the apartment complex. Turns out it was a series of complexes so it was a game of "Find the Pea." Finally make contact and she jumps in. For a second I thought I was looking at my neighbors daughter.
The essence of the girl next door look except for a coupe of facial piercings, which she proceeded to take out as soon as she got in. There must have been a look on my face because she reached over and hugged me and said "everything was cool." The drive to the FC took about ten minutes and the small talk that took place can best be described as "bubble gum." By the time we got to the FC I was wondering if I had made a mistake. What was obvious was there was no intellectual connection at all. None, not a bit. I got worried and asked to see her I'd. She was 18, and closer to 18 than 19. At that point she started to undress and to undress me. Then she proceeded to lick and nibble on little "C" and that conversation did make a connection. Now we are both naked and she demonstrates top tier oral skills. At this point I decide that having a intellectual connection was overrated. Now we're naked on the bed and I dive straight between her thighs. I don't know when the last time was you eat some teenage pussy but for me it's been decades. Just to sweet. Climbed on top and had a wonderful two hours.
The thing is I can't tell you how good it was because all that kept going through my mind was "I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old." I know she came because my thighs were coated with her cum, but for the life of me all I could think was "I'm fucking a 18 yr old." Finished, dressed, placed sugar in her purse and we headed back. On the way back my concerns about the importance of a intellectual connection returned. Next day get text complaining about the amount of sugar and that I had fucked her pussy so raw she was afraid her boyfriend would be able to tell. (I smiled) Her expectations reflected significant GPS so I declined a subsequent meet.
Two days later received a text significantly reducing the sugar to my max SB amount. I agreed (just one more time) but then she wanted to restrict the amount of time so as to try to reduce the damage to her pussy. I declined saying I would only accept the restrictions of last time which were no restrictions. I held my breath during the ride to the FC and tried to focus on what was to come but it was tough. I wish I could tell you more about her fucking skills but the same thing happened."I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old." On the ride back and I was able to pick out of the "bubble gum" torrent boyfriend issues (he can't support us) and a previous BF being released from custody. I made the decision at this point that this would be it. I noticed later she had canceled her profile on SA.
A month after this she contacts me, swears she's rid herself of BF's and wants to see me. Little head takes over and I agree. Pick her up, same intellectual disconnect is there but fun commences when we arrive at FC. I can now report that the pussy was super tight and super wet and extremely responsive. I haven't seen her again (my choice) but it is a wonderful memory.
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[QUOTE=Bus Nut;1352172]As for reserving a room, try this approach. Go to the library or use your secure computer and go to Priceline. Com, use "Name Your Own Price" and use the SB's prepaid card. If your deal is accepted the room is prepaid on that card.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1355370]"I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old."[/QUOTE]What a great experience.
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Gentlemen,
Off in half an hour to reacquaint myself with the details of SB5, a gorgeous Brit ex-pat whom I had let slip away in favor of fresh conquests. She informed me not too long ago that she no longer has a roommate, thus can easily accommodate our activities chez elle. Scottie and I are ready, and I have carved out a three hour chunk to make sure all bases are well touched upon. If you have never heard a baby moan to you,"fuck me harder, I'm your sl*t" in a high-class British accent, well, you just haven't lived.
In other news, I have a second overnight, this one out of town, scheduled with my ATF. So excited. And my M&G with my little Latina body double tomorrow afternoon.
Lastly, I hate to bring it up for fear of jinxing things, but my Irish / Cherokee baby has reconnected, and appears contrite and eager to make amends. This I will not let myself get too far out in front of like before, but wouldn't it be nice? "Yes" is the answer.
Life is good,
Scott
Scott, I hope you get all these babes. You are a happy warrior. Keep it up. Keep us posted.
Cool, I've never fucked an 18 YO, at least not since I was 20. I did have a wild time in the VIP with an 18YO stripper but it stopped short of a release for me. She climaxed though. I pursued an 18 and 19 YO last year for weeks and each agreed to meet me but disappeared as the time to meet approached. I stopped trying after that. I concluded they are too unreliable. But you give me new hope. Who knows what the future will bring.
[QUOTE=Literal2;1356132]Cool, I've never fucked an 18 YO, at least not since I was 20. I did have a wild time in the VIP with an 18YO stripper but it stopped short of a release for me. She climaxed though. I pursued an 18 and 19 YO last year for weeks and each agreed to meet me but disappeared as the time to meet approached. I stopped trying after that. I concluded they are too unreliable. But you give me new hope. Who knows what the future will bring.[/QUOTE]Lit;
Just remember, the pussy was wondrous. The mind was a bottomless pit where I was afraid to wander. Very afraid. Don't know about every case but that was my experience.
[QUOTE=Coolhand2; 1356141]Lit;
Just remember, the pussy was wondrous. The mind was a bottomless pit where I was afraid to wander. Very afraid. Don't know about every case but that was my experience.[/QUOTE]Now that I think of it, when I first started mongering, an 18 YO escort appeared in my hotel room. She said she had been a dancer since she was 15, had been abused and was full of rage. I told her I was sorry for her experiences and that we didn't have to do anything. She said she wanted to proceed but only one pop. I was unfamiliar with the terminology at the time and asked, what does that mean? She said, think about it, you'll figure it out. Eventually she lay down on the bed and I took off her clothes. I lay beside her and caressed her. I licked her pussy a little bit. Eventually I sat up and rubbed her clit with my thumb until she came. Mr Johnson was worried about the situation and there was no vitamin v to reassure him, so I never penetrated her. When she left she said thank you.
During email exchange with a pot SB meeting place and time was set. She wanted to talk sugar. If they insist I'll talk about it. But, I don't negotiate. My thoughts are that if they have a specific amount in mind they are not going to be happy with any less. As suggested on this forum, I have the amount I'm willing to part with and I stick with it. Pot SB relates a story that she had a wonderful SD that visited her 4 times a monthat1K per visit. In addition the relationship lasted six months. A 24K part time job. Not bad work if you can find it. LOL I reply that's nice what is the minimum amount of sugar you need to make you happy. Her reply $$$$/visit. My reply, no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. Next day writes me and says $$$/visit or whatever you think is fair. I tell her once again no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. She writes back a nasty message to me stating she doesn't understand why I won't give her a chance. I'm laughing to myself.
Still looking for my first success.
Cmdr out
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1356367]During email exchange with a pot SB meeting place and time was set. She wanted to talk sugar. If they insist I'll talk about it. But, I don't negotiate. My thoughts are that if they have a specific amount in mind they are not going to be happy with any less. As suggested on this forum, I have the amount I'm willing to part with and I stick with it. Pot SB relates a story that she had a wonderful SD that visited her 4 times a monthat1K per visit. In addition the relationship lasted six months. A 24K part time job. Not bad work if you can find it. LOL I reply that's nice what is the minimum amount of sugar you need to make you happy. Her reply $$$$/visit. My reply, no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. Next day writes me and says $$$/visit or whatever you think is fair. I tell her once again no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. She writes back a nasty message to me stating she doesn't understand why I won't give her a chance. I'm laughing to myself.
Still looking for my first success.
Cmdr out[/QUOTE]Commander,
Just for laughs, ask her if she would consent to a "test drive." My research has shown that such a thing sometimes is attainable, though I have never had the temerity to suggest it myself. What do you have to lose?
If you are rebuffed, you are no worse than where you are now, and if cleared for landing, what a great story you can tell.
Keep up abreast,
Scott
[QUOTE=Literal2;1354823]I like that game. There's something about anonymously seducing a girl you know that's exciting. Like you were feeling up your neighbor's wife in a dark theater. Why not extend your effort with the girl you truly and secretly lust for? Get her to meet you someplace it's hard to see your features clearly. Wear a simple disguise. Glasses, hat. Speak as little as possible, using a fake accent. Explain for security you can only spend a few minutes with her in public. Have a prepared fucking chamber nearby. Say you love a romantic encounter. Slip her a key and ask her to precede you, turn out all lights and wait for you in bed. Tell her to help herself to the open bottle of champagne in the ice bucket and pour you a glass. Mention there is a small gift for her on the bedside table but not to open it. Give her 15 minutes, then quietly enter the room using another key. Turn on the ipod you left hooked up to some speakers near the door. Remove your clothes in the dark, creep into bed beside her and fuck her violently, making sure she cums at least twice. While she's recovering from her ecstasy, or maybe just using the bathroom, quietly put your clothes back on and leave. Be sure to pick up the ipod. Don't worry about the speakers, she'll never take them. You won't have much time so I suggest you chug the glass of champagne on your way out. This should enhance the effect.[/QUOTE]Lit,
While I appreciate your confidence in me, I have to admit that my balls are nowhere near big enough for what you suggest, though it does add imagery to my fantasy (thank you). I feel that naked pictures are close at hand, however, and I am thinking I will share them if I can crop her face out.
On another note, I had an almost mystical reuniting with my very dirty British baby yesterday, about which I will post later. Words like "pus*y","co*k","sl*t", the classic "fuck me harder" and any more you can think of are somehow, at least for me, almost unbearably erotic when said with a Princess Di accent. Good God!
Latina body double was a no-show, and I'm done. Just too flaky, and fucking time is too hard to secure to have it be iffy that the required other half will show or not. Out of town over-nighter with my ATF now looks dubious as well, but in town is solid, so I have that to look forward to for next week.
Irish Cherokee continues to show positive signs. I really, really do not want to get my hopes up on this, but she is so naturally beautiful, and I would so like for it to work out, it's hard not to think about it in the positive. I am trying not to push on a string, but it requires all my meager will power to do so. Wish me luck, my brothers.
Scott
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1356367]Her reply $$$$/visit. My reply, no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. Next day writes me and says $$$/visit or whatever you think is fair. I tell her once again no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. She writes back a nasty message to me stating she doesn't understand why I won't give her a chance. I'm laughing to myself.
Still looking for my first success.
Cmdr out[/QUOTE]Cmdr is a tough negotiator. You might consider an alteration in your tactic and you will surely have your first conquest before you with this SB.
She is asking you for a chance. Obviously she is inexperienced, as well as are you. Why not tell her what you are willing to pay and let her respond.
In fact, I would write back to her, apologetically, and tell her that you thought it over realized that maybe you were being too harsh by not making an offer to her of what you are willing to pay, and let her know XX. See what her response is back to you. She wants the gig, and likely needs the gig (or maybe gag) , and you should give her the opportunity, IMO.
Since you've had a rough edge or two here to start with this little dolly, you might even arrange to meet her outside the FC for a drink, with the understanding that as long as you are both in good humor after consumption of a bevg, that you will head to the FC. This way if she is anything but eating out of your hand, then no dice. But that is just how I would handle such and encounter. Others will surely differ here.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1356367]During email exchange with a pot SB meeting place and time was set. She wanted to talk sugar. If they insist I'll talk about it. But, I don't negotiate. My thoughts are that if they have a specific amount in mind they are not going to be happy with any less. As suggested on this forum, I have the amount I'm willing to part with and I stick with it. Pot SB relates a story that she had a wonderful SD that visited her 4 times a monthat1K per visit. In addition the relationship lasted six months. A 24K part time job. Not bad work if you can find it. LOL I reply that's nice what is the minimum amount of sugar you need to make you happy. Her reply $$$$/visit. My reply, no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. Next day writes me and says $$$/visit or whatever you think is fair. I tell her once again no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. She writes back a nasty message to me stating she doesn't understand why I won't give her a chance. I'm laughing to myself.
Still looking for my first success.
Cmdr out[/QUOTE]SubCom, this is the classic argument with an sb. I always try to avoid these. Sometimes it's not possible I know.
Re her 1K per visit backdoor man, suggest you tell her to go back to him. There are many many other sbs available.
Re the lower amounts, you are well off to kiss her goodbye and move on if she's not worth it to you.
Could she be worth it? Well: if she's a dog to you, no. But then why do you want to fuck her?
If she's drop dead gorgeous and moves like a dancer, maybe. The price is around the higher end escort price so it falls into the category of baseline sugar which is normalized escort prices for the locale plus or minus based on factors. It's a negotiation and sometimes you have to do it. My opinion is it is always better to avoid talking about sugar up front.
But wait. Didn't she leave you an opening? She said "whatever is fair."
Why say no?
Say ok. Take her to your fucking chamber and fuck her. Afterwards give her what you think is fair. If she comes back again, the prior negotiation was irrelevant. If she doesn't, at least you have fucked her.
With respect, my take is you are trying to protect your dignity in the negotiations when there's no reason to do that.
All you have to do is fuck her.
So fuck her.
Keep us posted.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1356751]Lit,
While I appreciate your confidence in me, I have to admit that my balls are nowhere near big enough for what you suggest, though it does add imagery to my fantasy (thank you). I feel that naked pictures are close at hand, however, and I am thinking I will share them if I can crop her face out.
On another note, I had an almost mystical reuniting with my very dirty British baby yesterday, about which I will post later. Words like "pus*why","co*k","sl*t", the classic "fuck me harder" and any more you can think of are somehow, at least for me, almost unbearably erotic when said with a Princess Di accent. Good God!
Latina body double was a no-show, and I'm done. Just too flaky, and fucking time is too hard to secure to have it be iffy that the required other half will show or not. Out of town over-nighter with my ATF now looks dubious as well, but in town is solid, so I have that to look forward to for next week.
Irish Cherokee continues to show positive signs. I really, really do not want to get my hopes up on this, but she is so naturally beautiful, and I would so like for it to work out, it's hard not to think about it in the positive. I am trying not to push on a string, but it requires all my meager will power to do so. Wish me luck, my brothers.
Scott[/QUOTE]Good luck Scott. You are number one on the Leader Board by my count, but don't slack off, several sb mongers are closing in on you.
Sorry for not getting back here sooner, forgot which area this thread is under. With that in mind, if I could suggest to Jackson, it might be a good idea to move this thread out into the separate area for other "specialist" threads. Make it easier to find for everyone who might be interested.
Set a profile up on SA w / pic, but haven't 'pulled the trigger' on making it a paid-for account yet. A large part of that is the lack of any real prospects in the area I was hoping to "fish" in. Something like eight from a large-ish university town I had hoped would be a 'happy hunting ground', and more than half of those haven't been accessed for months. Guess patience is the watch-word.
Good luck to all, and hoping I have something to report here someday soon.
Scott & Lit,
Masterful advice well written and taken. An email has been sent requesting a "test drive" in the fucking chamber. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. She is not that high on the hotness scale. She is a MILF in her 40's, average across the board.
I see the need to reevaluate my perspective. I'm going to do my best to keep from getting caught up in the game at the expense of the objective: Getting SB's into the fucking chamber and the panties on the floor.
Cmdr out
[QUOTE=Castlerae;1356772]***forgot which area this thread is under. With that in mind, if I could suggest to Jackson, it might be a good idea to move this thread out into the separate area for other "specialist" threads. Make it easier to find for everyone who might be interested.***Good luck to all, and hoping I have something to report here someday soon.[/QUOTE]Castle, it is ok with me if it is ok with the others and Jackson to move the thread. It's been suggested before and we have enough contributors from outside the Richmond area now.
[QUOTE]I see the need to reevaluate my perspective. I'm going to do my best to keep from getting caught up in the game at the expense of the objective: Getting SB's into the fucking chamber and the panties on the floor.[/QUOTE]Subcmdr, the magic of the fucking chamber is when you get an sb into it, her panties will automatically drop off. She's already made the decision. You don't have to ask "will you let me fuck you?" you just have to say "let's meet in my room." If she shows up, she will let you fuck her. In my experience this is a difference between sbs and escorts.
[QUOTE]***arrange to meet her outside the FC for a drink, with the understanding that as long as you are both in good humor after consumption of a bevg, that you will head to the FC***[/QUOTE]Vroom, I agree this is a logical intermediate step if one is needed.
[QUOTE]While I appreciate your confidence in me, I have to admit that my balls are nowhere near big enough for what you suggest, though it does add imagery to my fantasy (thank you). I feel that naked pictures are close at hand, however, and I am thinking I will share them if I can crop her face out.[/QUOTE]Scott, the way you are gong I think you could probably pull it off, but you're right, it's risky. It's fun to think about though. Re naked pix, I got several the other day from one of my out of state sbs I hadn't heard from for a while. One was of her dripping pussy, which was nice. She proceeded to masturbate with a dildo while texting me. I'd like to share this stuff but won't because she took the pix and so perhaps could identify them, although I guess a dripping pussy is just a dripping pussy and not like a fingerprint or anything. I do like to take my own pix and post them here from time to time, but I'm the only person who can tie the pic to the girl.
[QUOTE]On another note, I had an almost mystical reuniting with my very dirty British baby yesterday, about which I will post later. Words like "pus*y","co*k","sl*t", the classic "fuck me harder" and any more you can think of are somehow, at least for me, almost unbearably erotic when said with a Princess Di accent. Good God![/QUOTE]Scott, you are something else. Inspirational. I think those Brit accents are sexy too but I've never fucked one. I'm pretty sure I'd like it though because every time a girl tells me "fuck me harder" in [B]any[/B] accent, it commands my attention.
Please keep us posted on your baby count, which I think you said is 16 so far. Leadership has its duties. Several of the mongers here, Cool for example, may be closing in on you. I might try to run you down and pass you myself, assuming I can stay out of the nursing home for another few months.
Still a novice at this game and have only been pursuing the SBs through CL and other sources so far. I plan to join either SB4Me or SA within the next few weeks to start the new year out right. Meanwhile, I have a 3rd meeting with by current SB tonight and am really looking forward to seeing her. It's been several weeks and she is having trouble with the rent, so there is plenty of incentive for the both of us. She is the same 30 yo that I have been in contact with since Nov. She really seems to enjoy our sessions and we both leave the FC plenty drained. I'll report on my future activities after joining a regular site. You have all been a tremendous inspiration to get me moving in 2012.
Scott,
This reminded me of a special little **** I met when I was 18 & traveling through Europe. She was Italian, with dark brown, curly hair and vividly blue eyes. An absolutely incredible body. Spoke English quite well, but it's an amazing turn on to hear all in-situ fuck phrases in Italian. Oh the memories.
Thanks to all the contributors. I've been reading this thread for months. Just haven't started pursuing SBs yet. I'm living vicariously through your stories.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1356751]Lit,
On another note, I had an almost mystical reuniting with my very dirty British baby yesterday, about which I will post later. Words like "pus*why","co*k","sl*t", the classic "fuck me harder" and any more you can think of are somehow, at least for me, almost unbearably erotic when said with a Princess Di accent. Good God![/QUOTE]
Gentlemen,
Imagine my surprise and delight when I opened my email this morning and found these from my former employee. Hooray! Rather than making me feel like enough is enough, however, they make me want to fuck her so badly I can clearly hear the "slap, slap slap" of me pounding her wet pussy. Insanity doesn't just creep up on you, my brothers, it hits in a flash.
Enjoy,
Scott.
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[QUOTE=Seanrinva; 1357120]Scott,
This reminded me of a special little * I met when I was 18 & traveling through Europe. She was Italian, with dark brown, curly hair and vividly blue eyes. An absolutely incredible body. Spoke English quite well, but it's an amazing turn on to hear all in-situ fuck phrases in Italian. Oh the memories.
Thanks to all the contributors. I've been reading this thread for months. Just haven't started pursuing SBs yet. I'm living vicariously through your stories.[/QUOTE]Sean,
I had a similar experience in college while I was living in France. One of the things I remember so vividly, besides the fuck-talk in French, was her vast lingerie wardrobe. Always matching, always interesting and alluring, and always fun to look at and remove. I actually thought long and hard about dropping out of school and moving in with her. Ah youth!
When you finally take the SB plunge, let us know. You will find everyone on this thread more than happy to help and share advice.
Good luck, and don't forget to write,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott;1357132]<edit del>found these from my former employee. Hooray! Rather than making me feel like enough is enough, however, they make me want to fuck her so badly I can clearly hear the "slap, slap slap" of me pounding her wet pussy. Insanity doesn't just creep up on you, my brothers, it hits in a flash.[/QUOTE]Scotty,
Those are some fine looking photos. We can see the alure of the days back when in the copier room; hmmmm.
Back when you originally posted about this former ee' being found on SD site, I was going to comment then, but decided to refrain.
My original thought then when first reading about your plans to pursue and see if you couldn't entice her to send photos was, Oh boy. Scotty's will power will be under assault soon, and doubtful that once you get some encouragement from a half-begging naked Latino gal, that little Scotty is going to be able to refrain.
So I suppose I am saying that you will be parting her flesh within say, the next 3 weeks, or so. And then what? This will be another fine fix little Scotty has gotten ole Dad into.
Still time to block the email address or her acct on SD4M, before you end up taking the plunge. Think, use the BIG head sir. But, it sure would be fun to dive into, no doubt.
All the best to you on your decision, Vroom.