Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Maashady;3889843]I didn't catch a post on this place so I decided to swing late one evening. Pretty awkward layout. Open layout with a couple massage areas towards the back separated by walls that did not go to ceiling, no doors for privacy just a curtain that was pulled back. Was already there so decided to go ahead with 60 min. At first I thought I was the only one there. Massage was OK, no hint of extras. About midway through I could here this drunk ass in the space next to me just giving his provider the most difficult time. At one point he got up and walked around in my space to talk to my provider. I kindly got up and escorted his ass right out the front door went back to my spot and got the rest of my time. I don't think I will try this place again.[/QUOTE]Man, that is really messed up. I don't think I would blame it on the spot unless they should have taken that customer in in first place. In that case I guess I do blame them.

I've never had that happen. I guess that's what happens when you don't have doors. I do not like there partial walls and curtains. I know they do that too look legit, but it's a real problem if you don't your privacy.

Sounds like you didn't get the Shanghai bait and switch. It worked out good for me. I got the legit massage for 45 minutes and then got the relief pitcher who let me hit a homerun!

[QUOTE=NitroPimp;3890330]Man, that is really messed up. I don't think I would blame it on the spot unless they should have taken that customer in in first place. In that case I guess I do blame them.

I've never had that happen. I guess that's what happens when you don't have doors. I do not like there partial walls and curtains. I know they do that too look legit, but it's a real problem if you don't your privacy.

Sounds like you didn't get the Shanghai bait and switch. It worked out good for me. I got the legit massage for 45 minutes and then got the relief pitcher who let me hit a homerun![/QUOTE]Kinda ruined the mood! Ha. I will stick with the private rooms in the future.

[QUOTE=Maashady;3889843]I didn't catch a post on this place so I decided to swing late one evening. Pretty awkward layout. Open layout with a couple massage areas towards the back separated by walls that did not go to ceiling, no doors for privacy just a curtain that was pulled back. Was already there so decided to go ahead with 60 min. At first I thought I was the only one there. Massage was OK, no hint of extras. About midway through I could here this drunk ass in the space next to me just giving his provider the most difficult time. At one point he got up and walked around in my space to talk to my provider. I kindly got up and escorted his ass right out the front door went back to my spot and got the rest of my time. I don't think I will try this place again.[/QUOTE]I stopped at that place once a couple of years ago. Once was enough for me. There is absolutely no privacy there. And the MT sneezed on me not once but twice. I mean she didn't even cover her mouth or turn her head. I felt the spray hit my back. LOL.

Tried what used to be 52nd street with Tina and Coco. It's been remodeled (dang was it a dump before) and has all new ladies. I drew Casey also. Massage was OK, but not great. Much too soft. No HE after the flip either, although she did some teasing. I'm surprised she didn't ask me to self-serve, but maybe she could tell I wasn't into it. It might be the new ownership stressing no HE's (same owner as 65th, peony, and another one I always forget about).

[QUOTE=Cabbie2;3874782]Yeah I would like to know also. Can appts be made, how to contact.[/QUOTE]Anyone want to leave a hint as to where this place is or?

[QUOTE=AddictedToAmp;3897548]Tried what used to be 52nd street with Tina and Coco. It's been remodeled (dang was it a dump before) and has all new ladies. I drew Casey also. Massage was OK, but not great. Much too soft. No HE after the flip either, although she did some teasing. I'm surprised she didn't ask me to self-serve, but maybe she could tell I wasn't into it. It might be the new ownership stressing no HE's (same owner as 65th, peony, and another one I always forget about).[/QUOTE]Well, I would say this. As I gather my intel I have surmised that 80% of K-town spas can be divided amongst 2 owners. This is interesting because if they talk to each other, soon they can build a Monger Data Base. Hey, truthfully when they hear a Monger is reviewing them, they talk. I say Review, Review, Review. Deny, Deny, Deny. Add to that the CC Camera and they can review us. Take a still and pass it around? Paranoia? Reality. Remember they have a huge advantage. Networking. Yes, those innocent questions, like you been here before? Did she (Stroke motion) ? Well, I used to always answer yes to show the girl that is what I want from her also. But lately I have been quiet. Most of these girls know each other. I am not paranoid, just want the other members who don't know, to know. Loose lips sink ships. Keep your knowledge of other spas and practices in your head when you're on the table. Mainly in the affiliated spas. I was recently asked about another spa that I had been to. The questions were prying. My first mistake was to say yes, I was there. I bailed with oh yeah 2 years ago. Oh 2 yeah ago? End of conversation. A little paranoia goes a long ways. Keep your bragging to yourself with the spa girls and if you have good or bad experience come here and tell.

Driving around town around 2 pm and noticed it was back open (haven't kept up with this site much since the big shut down). Rang the bell, Denver hit looking MT let me in. American 40's age I'd guess, DDs, little pouch. Got a little excited at the size of her chest so I went in for a 30. Decent massage, nothing special. A little teasing while working the thighs so I thought it was going to be good. Then she tells me my 30 is up, no flip at all. Got dressed, walked out of the room, take my water. As I'm turning around to leave she asks if I'm ripping her today. I smiled, said no, and left. So steak sauce is now my only option seeing as I haven't a clue where this "Asian hotel" is. On the flip side, the newer MT at steak sauce popped me once before the flip and twice after the other week. Very nice message as well.

Stopped in last week, two girls working both young and cute. How'd this place get so busy? Standard questions on the table. This lady has some experience with legit massage. Said her name but I would hack it? Recommend her as the best legit in k-town. Think she's the owner. Wonder about the other one. Older, cuter 40 +, Very slim and nice small cleavage. No release but good massage. Over tipped in hopes of future considerations.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe88;3899507]Driving around town around 2 pm and noticed it was back open (haven't kept up with this site much since the big shut down). Rang the bell, Denver hit looking MT let me in. American 40's age I'd guess, DDs, little pouch. Got a little excited at the size of her chest so I went in for a 30. Decent massage, nothing special. A little teasing while working the thighs so I thought it was going to be good. Then she tells me my 30 is up, no flip at all. Got dressed, walked out of the room, take my water. As I'm turning around to leave she asks if I'm ripping her today. I smiled, said no, and left. So steak sauce is now my only option seeing as I haven't a clue where this "Asian hotel" is. On the flip side, the newer MT at steak sauce popped me once before the flip and twice after the other week. Very nice message as well.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure she isn't obligated to take care of you. You aren't obligated to tip but throw her a $5 to for crying out loud.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe88;3899507]. Rang the bell, Denver hit looking MT let me in. American 40's age I'd guess, DDs, little pouch. Got a little excited at the size of her chest so I went in for a 30. Decent massage, nothing special. A little teasing while working the thighs so I thought it was going to be good. Then she tells me my 30 is up, no flip at all. Got dressed, walked out of the room, take my water. As I'm turning around to leave she asks if I'm ripping her today. I smiled, said no, and left. .[/QUOTE]No name? Hey, if they don't deliver, post their name, the boss will read it here and congratulate them.

You know, I always introduce myself and if they don't reciprocate, I ask them. It breaks the ice. It may show them that you are "just a monger" and not LE.

Do what you want for a tip but that's their only income. I hope they get a cut of the house fee.

My question. "Denver hit looking MT" What does that mean?

[QUOTE=Lemeduyu;3900507]I'm pretty sure she isn't obligated to take care of you. You aren't obligated to tip but throw her a $5 to for crying out loud.[/QUOTE]If you went to a regular American massage place, I'm sure you would tip, even though you didn't get a HE. Giving massages, especially therapeutic, non-happy massages, is a lot of physical work and it kills your body over time. I've seen some older MT's with really messed up hands. It's a lot harder work than waiting tables, and we all tip after the meal, right?

[QUOTE=AddictedToAmp;3909488]If you went to a regular American massage place, I'm sure you would tip, even though you didn't get a HE. Giving massages, especially therapeutic, non-happy massages, is a lot of physical work and it kills your body over time. I've seen some older MT's with really messed up hands. It's a lot harder work than waiting tables, and we all tip after the meal, right?[/QUOTE]I have to agree with no tipping. If service is lousy at the restaurant, don't tip, right? These are untrained women for the most part. A professional massage therapist, on the other hand is trained in the practice and usually are much less. There is a reasonable expectation that more is expected from these ladies. $5 doesn't go very far so the same message being sent. Everyone has their own standards but a lousy massage with no HE would qualify as a no tip for me. I once left without tipping at peony because of this.

[QUOTE=Axel6;3909630]I have to agree with no tipping. If service is lousy at the restaurant, don't tip, right? These are untrained women for the most part. A professional massage therapist, on the other hand is trained in the practice and usually are much less. There is a reasonable expectation that more is expected from these ladies. $5 doesn't go very far so the same message being sent. Everyone has their own standards but a lousy massage with no HE would qualify as a no tip for me. I once left without tipping at peony because of this.[/QUOTE]He didn't say it was a bad, no effort, untrained massage. Just disappointed in the lack of a flip and happy endingness. Actually I had the same woman over there (with the boobs) she is licensed, trained, pretty good, puts a ton of effort into it. Just can't do HE's due to heavy pressure from the boss, and because that boss unfortunately reads this page.

When I go to an AMP I do not tip for the massage. Most of the massages are lackluster to begin with. The door fee is the tip for the massage, especially at places like Shanghai, Main, or NRS. Sunflower and Oriental both did better with the massages, but it was never a tipping issue for me because they knew why I was there and provided the services that justified the tip received.

When I want a real massage, where they use oils / lotions to relax the muscles and dig deep I tip around 20. My AMP tip is based upon these things.

1. Finishing, and the quality of the finish. Was it good, rushed, jackhammer, etc.

2. How I finish. HE, BJ etc. Good service. Part of a good tip is already deciding if I'll be back to see this one. I tip better with ones I want to see again.

3. roaming etc.

4. Overall attitude. If I don't feel important, then my wallet doesn't get lighter.

I am generous with good service after the massage, in which case the tip isn't an issue. If the massage is good, but not spa levels good, I may leave something like 10. But these places are not spa level massages, and they know why we're there. They're trying to take advantage of the type of monger that is either new or feels guilty about not tipping. Tipping at these places is for post massage.

Kitty.

[QUOTE=KneadinKitty;3910673]When I go to an AMP I do not tip for the massage. Most of the massages are lackluster to begin with. The door fee is the tip for the massage, especially at places like Shanghai, Main, or NRS. Sunflower and Oriental both did better with the massages, but it was never a tipping issue for me because they knew why I was there and provided the services that justified the tip received.

When I want a real massage, where they use oils / lotions to relax the muscles and dig deep I tip around 20. My AMP tip is based upon these things.

1. Finishing, and the quality of the finish. Was it good, rushed, jackhammer, etc.

2. How I finish. HE, BJ etc. Good service. Part of a good tip is already deciding if I'll be back to see this one. I tip better with ones I want to see again.

3. roaming etc.

4. Overall attitude. If I don't feel important, then my wallet doesn't get lighter.

I am generous with good service after the massage, in which case the tip isn't an issue. If the massage is good, but not spa levels good, I may leave something like 10. But these places are not spa level massages, and they know why we're there. They're trying to take advantage of the type of monger that is either new or feels guilty about not tipping. Tipping at these places is for post massage.

Kitty.[/QUOTE]Question. So is it standard, let's say if a massage is $60, she charges an extra $30 For a sensual full body, for you to give a tip on top of the 90 or do you consider the 30 the tip? Because then she might as well be legit and just do regular massage for 60, and get a 10 or 20 dollar tip, and not have to go through the extras for just that extra $10. I understand if it's a crappy massage the answer would be no. But if its one of the best you've had but she didn't allow roaming would you still tip on top of the 90?

[QUOTE=GoldenRule;3911058]Question. So is it standard, let's say if a massage is $60, she charges an extra $30 For a sensual full body, for you to give a tip on top of the 90 or do you consider the 30 the tip? Because then she might as well be legit and just do regular massage for 60, and get a 10 or 20 dollar tip, and not have to go through the extras for just that extra $10. I understand if it's a crappy massage the answer would be no. But if its one of the best you've had but she didn't allow roaming would you still tip on top of the 90?[/QUOTE]Know if the house fee is $60 and you get good service you tip on top of that only. So if I go to an AMP and get a good HJ only with no FIV or titty action I will tip $40. If she brings her titties out for you that's worth at least $50. That's not $50 on top of the $40 just $50. If I get some FIV and some titty action to me that's worth $60 on top of the house fee only.

The list can go on and on different combinations. With all the above and maybe a CBJ 80 bucks is the usual standard but some charge $100. It really depends on the girl. The better-looking they are the more they will try to extract. Right after the tease and post flip they kind of got you where they want you. You're eager for the finish and they're eager for the tip how far were you bend? I've been in that situation and offer too much when they start shaking their head no. That's the one you really got to watch. That's when the little head starts thinking. The big head has to be involved too.

With an older 50 + provider, they know you won't go to high with them. I've had many of them allow FIV with the titties out and still go for the $40 tip. Just remember this. Be fair with him too. Sometimes the tip is her only income. I hope they do get a portion of the house fee.

I hope that helps. Do not offer more then the guidelines above or they will expect it every time. Especially if you find an ATF and continue to see her.

[QUOTE=JustAMonger;3911450]Know if the house fee is $60 and you get good service you tip on top of that only. So if I go to an AMP and get a good HJ only with no FIV or titty action I will tip $40. If she brings her titties out for you that's worth at least $50. That's not $50 on top of the $40 just $50. If I get some FIV and some titty action to me that's worth $60 on top of the house fee only.

The list can go on and on different combinations. With all the above and maybe a CBJ 80 bucks is the usual standard but some charge $100. It really depends on the girl. The better-looking they are the more they will try to extract. Right after the tease and post flip they kind of got you where they want you. You're eager for the finish and they're eager for the tip how far were you bend? I've been in that situation and offer too much when they start shaking their head no. That's the one you really got to watch. That's when the little head starts thinking. The big head has to be involved too.

With an older 50 + provider, they know you won't go to high with them. I've had many of them allow FIV with the titties out and still go for the $40 tip. Just remember this. Be fair with him too. Sometimes the tip is her only income. I hope they do get a portion of the house fee.

I hope that helps. Do not offer more then the guidelines above or they will expect it every time. Especially if you find an ATF and continue to see her.[/QUOTE]Some solid advice, guidelines perfect. Thanks.

[QUOTE=GoldenRule;3911058]Question. So is it standard, let's say if a massage is $60, she charges an extra $30 For a sensual full body, for you to give a tip on top of the 90 or do you consider the 30 the tip? Because then she might as well be legit and just do regular massage for 60, and get a 10 or 20 dollar tip, and not have to go through the extras for just that extra $10. I understand if it's a crappy massage the answer would be no. But if its one of the best you've had but she didn't allow roaming would you still tip on top of the 90?[/QUOTE]Since it's an odd hobby that we're in, I'm not sure anything is standard (like how to tip at a restaurant, which has standard guidelines but not rules) but certain types of tipping above the extra fee can score you better extras in the future. Also, if she knows that you'll pay a little more for extras / service, she'll be happier to see you again, which has led me to some fun times with some MP's (missing sunflower right now).

From a technical perspective, all $ exchanged in the backroom is a tip, although it may be for extras. She may charge you 30 for a special massage, but I usually add a little more in if it's someone I know I want to see again, or someone who does an excellent job (which means I'll probably see her again).

So, and this is me, if she charges 30 and grabs me and just pounds, there is nothing else given, I could have done that at home, for free. Everything that happens in the back is about service, I've had amazing HJ where I've dropped an extra 20 on top of the post door fee. If I get what I want, which is free roaming, tits in face w / suck, BJ usually covered, FS, or even a good HJ I tip more than quoted. If I plan on cumming back, I want her to remember me as being generous. It has led me to more FS after previously having just HJ or BJ.

If she goes out of her way to make you feel happy or special, then give something to show your gratitude. If she just pounds like a jackhammer, NRS a few times, nothing extra.

It's a learning curve, once you've done it a few times you start to get the hang of it. Be confident, naked, and start roaming while on your stomach to signal that you're interested in more. Just a simple leg rub can send the proper message. If shot down, don't be pushy or overly apologetic, just go on with your day.

This may not be a great post, seeing as to the current state of things in town.

Kitty.

So I haven't been since they mooved from wells to fastenal. So I get to wells and its the gop office, so I call then google. Ah ha got it. Drive there go in and "you want massagy", yes. How long. 2 hour, oh 2 hour, ok you pay now $120. Masssage was spa quality. Half way through she starts teasing heavily. Then she flips me blows my mind and finishes another hour of massage.

[QUOTE=KingFitter;3915538]So I haven't been since they mooved from wells to fastenal. So I get to wells and its the gop office, so I call then google. Ah ha got it. Drive there go in and "you want massagy", yes. How long. 2 hour, oh 2 hour, ok you pay now $120. Masssage was spa quality. Half way through she starts teasing heavily. Then she flips me blows my mind and finishes another hour of massage.[/QUOTE]Interesting, If it's going to be one of those long massages it's best to try for two! I did that at 65th Street, one early one late!

Anyone try the new girls at 109.

[QUOTE=Cabbie2;3916524]Anyone try the new girls at 109.[/QUOTE]What new girls?

[QUOTE=Zeuss;3917074]What new girls?[/QUOTE]Young dark haired girl, just saw her said hi she seemed very shy. I would have tried her but already had apt with my regular.

[QUOTE=Zeuss;3917074]What new girls?[/QUOTE]I don't know if she's new her name is Mena. On the heavy side. But happy personality. Very friendly and willing to please.

[QUOTE=NitroPimp;3921055]I don't know if she's new her name is Mena. On the heavy side. But happy personality. Very friendly and willing to please.[/QUOTE]Glass's dyed blond hair, accent? Pm me details I will return mine.

[QUOTE=Cabbie2;3916524]Anyone try the new girls at 109.[/QUOTE]Curious what place is referred to as 109, I am interested in checking this place out. PM me if you prefer to not share details on here. Thanks!!

[QUOTE=SSMan;3921863]Curious what place is referred to as 109, I am interested in checking this place out. PM me if you prefer to not share details on here. Thanks!![/QUOTE]Old Grand, just Google "Gurnee bodyworker".

Went to pink, formerly 52nd which I used to go to often with coco. Opted for an hour. Massage was ok. Not the worst but not the best. Pushed for SS at the end but I'm not into that. Anyone have any different experience here yet? I miss 52nd!

[QUOTE=Wildcat1010;3923512]Went to pink, formerly 52nd which I used to go to often with coco. Opted for an hour. Massage was ok. Not the worst but not the best. Pushed for SS at the end but I'm not into that. Anyone have any different experience here yet? I miss 52nd![/QUOTE]I also went to Pink once I think it was Coco. I avoided any contact. Not attractive at all and did not want to be offered SS. My question is, in a legit MP, why even offer SS? ?

Just stopped in to see what it was all about. Unless my gears are parking down the street I never see any cars in their lot.

[QUOTE=NitroPimp;3924011]I also went to Pink once I think it was Coco. I avoided any contact. Not attractive at all and did not want to be offered SS. My question is, in a legit MP, why even offer SS? ?

Just stopped in to see what it was all about. Unless my gears are parking down the street I never see any cars in their lot.[/QUOTE]I stopped in there recently on a weekend about an hour before closing time. No cars in the lot. Turns out there were two guys in there; one getting a massage, one waiting. Awkward. Apparently it's still shameful to park there, even though the glory days are clearly over at that establishment.

[QUOTE=AddictedToAmp;3925584]I stopped in there recently on a weekend about an hour before closing time. No cars in the lot. Turns out there were two guys in there; one getting a massage, one waiting. Awkward. Apparently it's still shameful to park there, even though the glory days are clearly over at that establishment.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is akward. Usually they put you in a room to wait.

Ahhhh. Still parking a block away are they?? Interesting.

Who was working? I'm sure someone came out to greet you!

Did you recognize CoCo?

Man it sucks around here! 60 year olds giving hjs if were lucky! We need to open up a club members only and have sexy asian women on tap. Who's in? LOL.

[QUOTE=Mmaforever;3926565]Man it sucks around here! 60 year olds giving hjs if were lucky! We need to open up a club members only and have sexy asian women on tap. Who's in? LOL.[/QUOTE]Members only great idea and the house and girls could make serious $.

Saw Yuyu again. Same story as usual. Worth a visit. There was a different new girl tucked away in the back kitchen / laundry / dining room. I don't think it was the girl Anne or Tina or whateve her name is, nor is it Sophie. This girl doesn't look cute. Sorry, didn't get her name from Yuyu. Another thing. I noticed there is what looks like a massageeee room behind the front desk, across from the short wall rooms. It appears to be a single room (no short walls). I saw a table and it looked like a typical massage room setup. Normally that door is closed to prying eyes. I wonder if they ever use it?

[QUOTE=Kampyone;3927887]Saw Yuyu again. Same story as usual. Worth a visit. There was a different new girl tucked away in the back kitchen / laundry / dining room. I don't think it was the girl Anne or Tina or whateve her name is, nor is it Sophie. This girl doesn't look cute. Sorry, didn't get her name from Yuyu. Another thing. I noticed there is what looks like a massageeee room behind the front desk, across from the short wall rooms. It appears to be a single room (no short walls). I saw a table and it looked like a typical massage room setup. Normally that door is closed to prying eyes. I wonder if they ever use it?[/QUOTE]The other room? Yeah, they use it. Mostly for napping though, LOL!

[QUOTE=NitroPimp;3925787]Yeah, that is akward. Usually they put you in a room to wait.

Ahhhh. Still parking a block away are they?? Interesting.

Who was working? I'm sure someone came out to greet you!

Did you recognize CoCo?[/QUOTE]No Coco. It was Casey and Mee-shell. Seen both, no HE's happened from either, but Michelle's massage was really good, strong. Which I needed, so I was Ok with it. She's older, heavyset, but really nice. Casey's was weak, and she teased a lot but did nothing in the end, which I hate. I'm not really planning to frequent this place anymore though, unless I need a strong legit massage and get to choose which girl I get to see.

[QUOTE=AddictedToAmp;3933325]No Coco. It was Casey and Mee-shell. Seen both, no HE's happened from either, but Michelle's massage was really good, strong. Which I needed, so I was Ok with it. She's older, heavyset, but really nice. Casey's was weak, and she teased a lot but did nothing in the end, which I hate. I'm not really planning to frequent this place anymore though, unless I need a strong legit massage and get to choose which girl I get to see.[/QUOTE]What place is this?

[QUOTE=Cabbie2;3933869]What place is this?[/QUOTE]Look down the page, the title of the post is VIP, it's on 22nd Ave.

[QUOTE=Cabbie2;3933869]What place is this?[/QUOTE]Pink on 52ND. Sometimes you have to click on "View Original Post" once or twice to see what people are replying to, if you haven't read all the earlier comments already.

I recently stopped in and notice some staff changes which is not abnormal in the AMP world.

Through the broken English, sounded like the spa has been sold although I don't know who to.

I hope it doesn't become part of the Fortune 500 of Self Serve Coco's "corporate" spas!

This would be a true kick in the face.