Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Hdrk55]I was with Lisa last night.they were slow.she asked me if I wanted 2 girls.I only had an extra 40 bucks so it didnt happen- I didnt see a room w/ a bed.[/QUOTE]

You are talking about the room with a lower mattress, I was told was for wheelchairs LOL swear that is what she said! I had both lisa and coco same time in that room was great! If you have never done it what can I say but it will be the best experience of your life! I went back and forth from one to the other and back again! I am firm with them I do not barter I tell them $ for each girl so $$. 5 out the door pricing!

Jackie at 4s uses way 2much teeth! Went to 4s had Jackie now there are teeth marks a few days later forming a scab. Will never use her anymore. Its good Im not married my wife would prob notice!

First, I have to say that I travel a great deal, and in my limited (but growing) experience I have to say that the 4S in Warren has got to be my favorite AMP. I have now had the pleasure to visit here 4 times, and each visit has produced (way) better than average services for lower than average prices. Gotta love the $10 coupon for the allready low house fee, nice facilities, and 24-hour open sign. Location is perfect for those cross-country trips, right off of I-80.

As an aside, does anyone know of any place worth visiting along I-80 to the is West of Warren? (OH, IN, IL, IA, NE.) I've looked at the forums for these states and it does not appear that anything is too enticing. I can contribute that up in New England, Bridgeport, CT is worth checking out up along I-95. Providence also has some good AMPs, though the FS ones are very pricey.

Today was, frankly, a bit surreal but fun nonetheless. After a long drive from New England, I got there in the rain at about 10:35, and the parking lot was bare. I requested Lisa based on all the rave posts here, and was told she was available. I found her attractive, and playful/fun from the start, though I was having a hard time understanding her. She was quite animated and talkative, and I was catching maybe half of what she was saying and asking me. I'm not normally this obtuse, but I sure was tonight.

Lisa provided a first today, when she stripped after the TS as she was drying me off...excellent touch.

She then guided me into the Sauna, and I thought she might have said that she was going to join me. Well after 5+ hopeful but increasingly hot minutes, my wishful thinking was doused in a big way when the sauna door was opened by another monger. Very bad (for us both, I am sure), and the first time I have ever been on the wrong side of a mixup like that. Now I can see humor in the situation, but when it happened I was in a bit of shock, and pissed off.

Mamasan came a few minutes later (by now I'm sweating) and led me back to my room, saying that Lisa would soon be there. No apologies from her.

Lisa comes in, and asks where I was. I try to explain, and again we are not communicating well. I explain again, and she seems to get it, and seems mad at the other girl (not sure who it was) who told the monger to go in 'my' sauna. Whatever. I'm over it by now, though still kinda sweaty. She notices that, and towels me off and turns the fan on, and I dry up.

She asked if I would take care of her, and how much, and feigned unhappiness with my promise of $. She also told me I had a big ass. Now I'm not exactly skinny at 210 lbs, but I'm sure I'm not as large as many of her clients. Maybe she meant my a**hole? Again, a strange twist to the night.

She is talking nasty (I think, who knows, maybe she was discussing Korean philosophy) and soon HTUM(big)A, very nice.

Another great touch, she asks me if I come slow or fast. I admit to fast, and she assures me that she wants to take her time with me. Really great service imo.

Next funny thing, I flip and she delivers a wonderful BBBJ for a while, with attention to the boys, who dig being included in the festivities. She then asks if I enjoy HFUMA, which I definitely do, so *that* is skillfully added to the BB fun. This is pushing me towards the edge, so I signal her to take it easy.

But of course the miscommunication comedy of errors continues, so she stops, and says "I thought you like that, sorry". I try to explain that I *did* like it (very much thank you, and please don't stop) but too late, we are wrapping up for the main event.

And of course again after a short but enthusiastic span of time, my attempts to tell her to slow down did not work, so CG to reverse CG and I was spent.

I have experienced with other providers a lingering (more massage, or cuddling, or even just talk) when the session ends before the hour is up. Not here...Lisa dressed, and it was time to go.

What a bizzare session, with a mixture of great, awkward, and just strange moments. She got me a drink (Sprite) after telling me that they stock a lot of drinks. I ask if they have beer, and she says yes, then puts her lovely titty in my mouth and says 'this is the beer'. Huh? I still have no idea what that was all about.

Overall, an evening that I will definitely remember, and I'll rank it as an above average session. I'd repeat for sure, though the description of Kay's excellent English make me think that I'd enjoy her company next time if I had a choice.

I'm back in the car (2 others in the lot now) by 11:25, so it ended up being about 50 minutes.

Nice post, just a point of info tho. She wasn't saying you have a fat ass, she said SHE has a fat ass LOL. It's one of her lines she uses to all her customer's to which she expects you to say something like " Oh no you have a beautiful ass ". Last time she used it on me I told her thats ok i like fat ass's reminds me of black girls.

Her expression was priceless!

Odd, re: Lisa ... I seem to remember her English being better, and she's been here for years ... huh

Maybe not so odd (for Lisa, that is) to act like she didn't understand English very well. Everything seems to fit the usual Lisa experience. In that regard, Lisa has a reputation of being quite savvy and crafty so there's a good chance it was just a ploy on her part. For instance, she was known to lie to customers about her old name (Micki), I guess in an effort to check them out. Someone would come in and ask if she was 'Micki' and she would reply, "How do you know Micki? She's not here anymore. I'm Lisa". Likewise, the strange beer exchange is pretty much a typical Lisa response. That sounds exactly like something she'd say and do.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Odd, re: Lisa ... I seem to remember her English being better, and she's been here for years ... huh[/QUOTE]
I've always had a little trouble understanding her as well. No more than with most other AMP girls, though.

Have made a few stops at Tokyo with really nothing new to report. Most have been with Jennifer. The more you see her the better the visits get. TS show the most improvement.

The last visit was the new girl Ruby. I asked many times and that was the best I could understand. I think I understood maybe three words she said the whole time. Couldn't understand a thing she said. Very high pitched voice with a lot of laughing. TS was nothing out of the ordinary. Back to the room $ was taken care of. She liked watching in the mirror the whole time. Much of the service was standing. She eventually laid on the table while continuing BBBJ with me standing. If you have ever seen an Hentia cartoon movies she could have been the voice behind them. Any contact was followed with high pitched sounds from her. Finished in the chair in front of the mirror with squeals I'm sure anymore could have heard that was in the place. Not saying it was me. Her high pitches were a bit of a turn on.

She was taller than most with average body. She said 28 with younger than most appearance. Ended with great massage and more giggling. Place was dead when I got there with no one coming in for the 1-1/2 hour visit.

[QUOTE=Malvolio]She then guided me into the Sauna, and I thought she might have said that she was going to join me. Well after 5+ hopeful but increasingly hot minutes, my wishful thinking was doused in a big way when the sauna door was opened by another monger. Very bad (for us both, I am sure), and the first time I have ever been on the wrong side of a mixup like that. Now I can see humor in the situation, but when it happened I was in a bit of shock, and pissed off.[/QUOTE]Find that kind of funny myself. I've noticed they are usually very careful to keep clients from seeing each other. Only time I have is when someone walked it as I was exiting.

Saw Jackie the other night had a good time and got some chiropractic work. Got to agree with an earlier post, she gives a toothy bj. Does have a good body.

When is the best time to visit 4s?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Barber Shop]Nice post, just a point of info tho. She wasn't saying you have a fat ass, she said SHE has a fat ass LOL. [/QUOTE]Very funny, and a perfect example of the almost constant mix-ups I was having that night. Thanks for clearing this up. Of course just between you and me and Jackson, her ass is to die for.

I'd like to point out that I'm not fingering Lisa for the blame for the communication troubles. I had driven over 700 miles that day, and was under a bunch of stress with other things going on. I was kinda in a haze. I've had other sessions with providers who are uncertain of their English, and basically do not even try to talk. In constrast, Lisa's attitude was awesome, and her talk was fun and engaging. I was just a step behind her all night.

I expect to be heading back through Warren in a few weeks. Stay tuned!

Got Jackie at 4S and she promised me two pops for extra 20 above the standard $. First was DT BBBJCIM and I thought that would be it. Then she gave me a long and relaxing massage, lay down with me and we got going again. I took the second serving in MISH.

I stopped at 4S planning some good GFE with Lisa. Mamasan said she was off and I knew whoever else was there would be "strange". Unfortunately I got Jackie. I know Mamasan told her I had been there before; but I got a lame TS and when we got back to the room the whole thing just got awkward. She claimed to have just arrived from L.A., to not speak English, not know what was going on etc. etc. Finally I handed her $, after waiting way too long she returned and started the infamous toothy BBBJ. She was so mechanical I got sick of it and turned her around in front of the mirror, bent her over and finished her off hard and fast. IMHO avoid Jackie like the plague.

Poontoligist,

I feel your pain. That's the worst thing in the world at that time. Making the drive there. Paying all that money. (In my budget, it's a large chunk), and being let down. I think we should all flat out avoid Jackie so management will maintain a stock of high quality providers. I will leave if Mikki/July/Coco isn't available. Or at the very least, I will refuse Jackie. It's just too much money not to be treated right.

Are there any AMP's or jack shacks around that have American girls? I'm not so much into the oriental scene. Thanks for any reports.

Ohioman

[QUOTE=Ohio Man61]Are there any AMP's or jack shacks around that have American girls? I'm not so much into the oriental scene. Thanks for any reports.

Ohioman[/QUOTE]Gemini in Warren. No FS, though.

I'm planning a trip to 4S in a couple of weeks and would like to see Lisa. Does anyone know if she is still there? I saw a report recently that she was 'on vacation'. Usually at an AMP, this means she's gone. I know Lisa from her days back here in Michigan and would love to see her again! Replies or PM's would be greatly appreciated, along with any other info on 4S.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Worker]I'm planning a trip to 4S in a couple of weeks and would like to see Lisa. Does anyone know if she is still there? I saw a report recently that she was 'on vacation'. Usually at an AMP, this means she's gone. I know Lisa from her days back here in Michigan and would love to see her again! Replies or PM's would be greatly appreciated, along with any other info on 4S.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
On the day of my unfourtunate experience with Jackie I was told Lisa would be back that night or the next day. On vacation usually means on the rag. "She no here" means she's gone!

Where do you get the coupon for 4S? What paper?

Thanks

The Akron Beacon Journal paper runs them sometimes in the sports section.

[QUOTE=Worker]Where do you get the coupon for 4S? What paper?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Worker]Where do you get the coupon for 4S? What paper?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
I believe the Plain Dealer runs them on Tuesdays and Thursdays in the sports section.

Hey Guys,

I've heard the great things of the Warren AMPs. I will be in Cleveland Monday night/Tuesday day and am considering a drive down from Cleveland Tuesday morning to check out 4S. I'd appreciate just a bit of info, PM if you'd like, on door fee and confirm if it's address is on State Rt 5 in Newton Falls. Thanks. Any body need any info on Memphis or St. Louis, I'll be glad to reciprocate.

Based on previous reports, I asked for Jennifer. Don't know if it was her but the girl that was sent in was medium height, nice looking, and tan, so I took her. She had bolt-ons and might have been late-twenties/early thirties on the American scale (which means probably forties on the Asian scale). Standard menu and service for the area, which is to say, pretty good.

While she might not be in the 'superstar' class of Lisa at 4S, it's nice to have a little variety and, so far, the gamble has paid off at Tokyo lately. For those seeking a change of pace from the admittedly superior service at 4S, Tokyo seems to be viable alternative lately. In fact, I suspect the same outfit may run both places since the house fee sign in the entrance foyer at Tokyo is exactly the same as 4S.

Stopped in 4S last Tuesday. Hooked up with "Janie". I was surprise that no TS was offered. Got right to the massage. Decent massage. Then a nice ending with her on the table and me standing mish then finished with her on the table and me standing behind her doggie. Then she wanted to cuddle. Then to my surprise she even offered to let me sleep there overnight. She was very very tired. I did not take her up on the overnight lodgings since I already had a hotel room next door. Janie is a 8 in looks and a 10 in service and attitude. Have fun and be safe.

[QUOTE=MikedD]Stopped in 4S last Tuesday. Hooked up with "Janie". I was surprise that no TS was offered. Got right to the massage. Decent massage. Then a nice ending with her on the table and me standing mish then finished with her on the table and me standing behind her doggie. Then she wanted to cuddle. Then to my surprise she even offered to let me sleep there overnight. She was very very tired. I did not take her up on the overnight lodgings since I already had a hotel room next door. Janie is a 8 in looks and a 10 in service and attitude. Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]

If you'd eaten the cost of the hotel room and stayed there anyway, you might have gotten breakfast and service (again) when you woke up! Nice report, regardless.

Also, you have every right to ask for the table shower if it isn't offered. By the sound of your report she might have wanted to skip it from being so tired.

I had a really great massage with Jackie a couple of years ago. She took great care of me and put me to bed and told me to catch some sleep. My "wake up call" was a really awesome blow job. Didn't get breakfast. Have to work on that.

[QUOTE=Virile Vito]If you'd eaten the cost of the hotel room and stayed there anyway, you might have gotten breakfast and service (again) when you woke up! Nice report, regardless.

Also, you have every right to ask for the table shower if it isn't offered. By the sound of your report she might have wanted to skip it from being so tired.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if Kay is still at 4s ? also any description of the new girl Janie, size,rack, etc. So it's Lisa?Mickey, Kay, Jackie & Janie there goes the rent money........Doc.

Is that the same Kay that used to work in Painesville as a stripper?

I know this is the Warren board, but it would not hurt to look at the information on the Silver Spa in the Cleveland Massage area.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=693583#post693583[/url]

The police interviewed several guys after stopping their cars. The guys told the police they paid for sex inside the spa. The police busted the spa, and those guys will be the State's witnesses, and perhaps will themselves be prosecuted based upon their own statements.

[QUOTE=Valdez]I know this is the Warren board, but it would not hurt to look at the information on the Silver Spa in the Cleveland Massage area.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=693583#post693583[/url]

The police interviewed several guys after stopping their cars. The guys told the police they paid for sex inside the spa. The police busted the spa, and those guys will be the State's witnesses, and perhaps will themselves be prosecuted based upon their own statements.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who is in the know about the Warren area. (They work in the county LE and we were talking the other night.)

This friend tells me that all the spas in the Warren area. 4S, Oriental, Tokyo, Suzi Kim's and all the rest are under watch by LEO.

Watch your backs guys.

I was also told that banks are being contacted about credit cards and also that this board is monitored by LE to learn as much as possible.

If you are from out of state, the FBI gets involved because of interstate transaction involving a crime. The FBI is also involved because of the people who own these places are mostly in other states or countries. If you are from out of state, and are seen entering a spa in the Warren area, expect a visit to your door from the FBI.

License plates are being run and photos are being taken.

The same thing was done in the last few years in Ashtabula county closing the three spas there. Toledo is also on the list, with one closing and more to come according to this friend. Geauga county just closed Silver as everyone knows and there is one more on the list (the one just down the road)

Loose lips sinks ships and everyone on this site did a good job letting LEO know what was up.

[QUOTE=Jeep56]I have a friend who is in the know about the Warren area. (They work in the county LE and we were talking the other night.)

This friend tells me that all the spas in the Warren area. 4S, Oriental, Tokyo, Suzi Kim's and all the rest are under watch by LEO.

I was also told that banks are being contacted about credit cards and also that this board is monitored by LE to learn as much as possible.

If you are from out of state, and are seen entering a spa in the Warren area, expect a visit to your door from the FBI.

License plates are being run and photos are being taken.

[/QUOTE]

You mean the police know the spa's in warren offer more than a great rub down? LOL! Of course they do. AMP's have been around all over the country for years & years. Truth is when the people who run the AMP's stop bribing the police, then they will shut them down. And do you think the FBI is going to visit all the people from out of state who visit a jack shack? Seriosuly? You believe this? 1000's of PA people alone have been to Ohio spas. I would hope the FBI has better things to do. Like catching Islamic Terrorists for starters. And as far as plates being run and photos being taken...than happens everyday no matter where you go or live. Big deal. Worst case senerio? I get caught screwing a *****. I think I can deal with that. I wouldn't call it the crime of the century.

[QUOTE=Streetwize]You mean the police know the spa's in warren offer more than a great rub down? LOL! Of course they do. AMP's have been around all over the country for years & years. Truth is when the people who run the AMP's stop bribing the police, then they will shut them down. And do you think the FBI is going to visit all the people from out of state who visit a jack shack? Seriosuly? You believe this? 1000's of PA people alone have been to Ohio spas. I would hope the FBI has better things to do. Like catching Islamic Terrorists for starters. And as far as plates being run and photos being taken...than happens everyday no matter where you go or live. Big deal. Worst case senerio? I get caught screwing a *****. I think I can deal with that. I wouldn't call it the crime of the century.[/QUOTE]
Thank you street! Give me a break! The only reason Silver got raided is because it's right in the middle of there town. Once the right person got wind of what goes on in this places and makes a complaint or complaints thats when leo gets involved.

There is no way that the FBI would get involved for a misdemeanor crime. The only thing that they could get this places for would be tax evasion. And as far as this board goes it has nothing to do with any of the bust.

The town that the AMPS are in are very small with no industry. The towns welcome the tax dollars that they pay. If you pay with a credit card then it's better because the Amp have to pay taxes then because they can't hide it.

[QUOTE=Streetwize]You mean the police know the spa's in warren offer more than a great rub down? LOL! Of course they do. AMP's have been around all over the country for years & years. Truth is when the people who run the AMP's stop bribing the police, then they will shut them down. And do you think the FBI is going to visit all the people from out of state who visit a jack shack? Seriosuly? You believe this? 1000's of PA people alone have been to Ohio spas. I would hope the FBI has better things to do. Like catching Islamic Terrorists for starters. And as far as plates being run and photos being taken...than happens everyday no matter where you go or live. Big deal. Worst case senerio? I get caught screwing a *****. I think I can deal with that. I wouldn't call it the crime of the century.[/QUOTE]Just passing information from a friend of mine to everyone so they don't go through what the guys at Silver went through. I bet they have a different attitude than what you have stated. And their wives I bet are not real happy.

From what I have been told, the spas are being investigated by the FBI because of the money being made and the illegal aliens being employed there.
The money is part of a larger ring of international crime that includes drugs, prostitution, and international sex slavery. So it is not just YOU having fun, but a larger picture of an international scope. That is why the FBI is involved. They do not think of it as a little matter not worth their attention.

I went through a little problem a few years ago with a place I was visiting in West Virginia and having the FBI show up at your house and business is not real pleasant. It happened to me and I can attest that I never ever went to another spa ever again. The legal and family problems are just not worth it.

[QUOTE=Valdez]The police interviewed several guys after stopping their cars. The guys told the police they paid for sex inside the spa. The police busted the spa, and those guys will be the State's witnesses, and perhaps will themselves be prosecuted based upon their own statements.[/QUOTE]
This tactic has been used all over the country. Here's another example:[post]486507[/post]. The guys who get stopped and squeal will are almost guaranteed not to be prosecuted for anything or ever have to appear in court or testify. The interviews are used as probable cause to get approval for search warrants or surveillance. They will not hold water in an actual trial because they are hearsay.

The cops may pull you over for alleged or BS minor traffic shit, and then say something like they saw you come out of the spa, followed by threats to arrest or charge you with patronizing or whatever else if you don't answer their questions.

[b]DON'T GET SCARED![/b] There is NOTHING illegal about visiting a spa. No matter what they say, they have no evidence of you doing anything illegal, and no way to prove any charges. They are trying to scare you into snitching. The more you talk, the deeper you will dig your own hole. These assholes are trained liars - don't fall for their bullshit. [QUOTE=Zhuxi]They only have on you what they can prove or what you tell them.[/QUOTE] Remember that you never hear or read the names of the guys who didn't squeal in these situations. As Valdez said, you can always tell them that you will not talk without a lawyer.

Interesting what started all this. Some neighbors by the Silver Spa were curious what really went on there. So a neighbor lady went there and asked if they do manicures, salon services etc. The employee of Silver Spa said something to the effect of "we no service ladies." Which set off alarm bells and was reported to le.

If only the employee of Silver spa said we do theraputic(sp) massages and ladies are welcome this whole thing may have been avoided.

[QUOTE=Jeep56]Just passing information from a friend of mine to everyone so they don't go through what the guys at Silver went through...[/QUOTE]The problem with this is that your LE pal is full of shit, so you're passing on false info that's no good to anybody except prudes and LE.
[QUOTE]From what I have been told, the spas are being investigated by the FBI because of the money being made and the illegal aliens being employed there. The money is part of a larger ring of international crime that includes drugs, prostitution, and international sex slavery. So it is not just YOU having fun, but a larger picture of an international scope. [/QUOTE]
These are the same lies and false but sinister-sounding charges that get repeated every time. "International crime ring", "International sex slavery", (and throw "drugs" in there just for the fuck of it). It sells, it sounds like a Hollywood mafia or conspiracy tale, its an easy way of explaining the unknown.

AMPs are an industry. These these sorts of charges cannot encompass the complexity and depth of it. They could not hope to adequately explain what happens and why. They vastly underestimate the capability and worth of those do business in it - mostly women. As if there are no circumstances, from the wide-ranging to the personal, associated with them.

But when the Feds and FBI have had to put their cards on the table in the courtroom, these charges turned out to have been a bluff - on the public and in the court. When cases have made it that far, the "sex slave" charges have been quietly dropped. The reasons why were too blatantly obvious in the government's own evidence to make their claims believable. In the most recent case, they did not even try to bring these charges.

There's nothing like the p4p industry to show you just how ignorant some people can be.

The problem with dismissing the Federal aspect of LE regarding AMPs is that the Feds [i]were[/i] involved in the recent massive southwestern Indiana AMP busts (mainly Lawrenceburg) which effectively shut them all down. From what could be gathered from the indictments, there were a lot more Federal and state LE being utilized than any local LE. In fact, I'm not sure there were [i]any[/i] local LE involved in the L'burg busts.

Although it wouldn't seem likely to be happening in Warren, the reports did state in the Indiana AMP raids that there were northern Ohio AMP connections. It's worth noting that the Toledo and Austintown AMPs were recently shutdown, too. So there's definitely a precedent. However, I don't think it was so much the FBI as INS that was involved and I can't really feature the INS knocking on people's doors just to harass them about visiting an AMP.

Regardless, it sucks that they've got all that Homeland Security/Patriot Act money floating around that they have to use to fight 'terrorism'. Coincidently, the busts conveniently just 'happen' a few months before the national election.

[QUOTE=Virile Vito]The problem with this is that your LE pal is full of shit, so you're passing on false info that's no good to anybody except prudes and LE.

These are the same lies and false but sinister-sounding charges that get repeated every time. "International crime ring", "International sex slavery", (and throw "drugs" in there just for the fuck of it). It sells, it sounds like a Hollywood mafia or conspiracy tale, its an easy way of explaining the unknown.

AMPs are an industry. These these sorts of charges cannot encompass the complexity and depth of it. They could not hope to adequately explain what happens and why. They vastly underestimate the capability and worth of those do business in it - mostly women. As if there are no circumstances, from the wide-ranging to the personal, associated with them.

But when the Feds and FBI have had to put their cards on the table in the courtroom, these charges turned out to have been a bluff - on the public and in the court. When cases have made it that far, the "sex slave" charges have been quietly dropped. The reasons why were too blatantly obvious in the government's own evidence to make their claims believable. In the most recent case, they did not even try to bring these charges.

There's nothing like the p4p industry to show you just how ignorant some people can be.[/QUOTE]Tell what you think to the judge. I'm sure he will be very interested in your view of the AMP industry. Hell, I'll bet he or she will even want to give you a medal. (sarcasm off).

The point of all the charges is to shut the places down. That's all they really want along with all the lawyers making money and the LEO's get their paycheck for doing something. In that regard, I agree with you totally.

I was told that spas in Ohio are being targeted and I guess that the only ones open now are in Warren and surrounding areas.

A few years ago, I was visited by the FBI for going to the spa at Willow Grove in West Virginia. They came to my house and also to my business to talk to me. It was not pleasant and they got little from me except it was a bit embarrassing to have the FBI over.

I could not care less if you go to these places or not. I just want everyone to know that Warren and outlying areas are not immune from the FEDS. The payoffs to the police and sheriff do no good when the FBI gets involved. And from what my LE friend says, the ax is about to fall in Ohio.

[QUOTE=DrDetroit]Does anyone know if Kay is still at 4s ? also any description of the new girl Janie, size,rack, etc. So it's Lisa?Mickey, Kay, Jackie & Janie there goes the rent money........Doc.[/QUOTE]Kay is still there. Saw her Friday. Everything was covered, even the bj.

[QUOTE=C P Guy]Kay is still there. Saw her Friday. Everything was covered, even the bj.[/QUOTE]CBJ? Fuck that. I'll never see Kay.