[QUOTE=DogginUSA;2474176]Drugs. Lots of drugs.[/QUOTE]Anyone know who the provider is?
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[QUOTE=DogginUSA;2474176]Drugs. Lots of drugs.[/QUOTE]Anyone know who the provider is?
[QUOTE=Wrecker1;2474371]Anyone know who the provider is?[/QUOTE]I believe the fellow hobbyist that know who and why wouldn't pass that information along. The article explains a lot about a trafficking victims flight. Trust of discretion in the hobby goes both ways.
[QUOTE=TrailerGuy;2474678]I believe the fellow hobbyist that know who and why wouldn't pass that information along. The article explains a lot about a trafficking victims flight. Trust of discretion in the hobby goes both ways.[/QUOTE]The former provider appears to be going to great lengths to avoid being linked to her past. We all need to honor those wishes.
The [I]Tennessean[/I] story is probably intentionally vague or misleading on a number of points. I respect her desire to help others who want out of the life, and she is pretty brave to speak out publicly if she is indeed being pursued in the way the story states.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=TrailerGuy;2474293]Gentlemen, it is a very interesting story. It is only part of the whole story of some lady's experience in the lifestyle. It sounds like the dark side of the lifestyle. Its not uncommon for the trafficking stories to get lost because they are still running from pimps and influences to keep them doing what returns them money. Yes sometimes drugs are involved but a majority of the time its the money. As the old saying goes " money is the root of all evil". I have had several conversations with a few providers that have come and gone. Some were getting S. S. Disability and needed to supplement and others just loved sex and figured they would get paid for it till getting tied up with the uncle. Its hard to say its just drugs until the whole story is know.[/QUOTE]Some thoughts:
--We've seen any number of providers charged with Promoting in cases that would not appear to warrant it. It's disconcerting to sees that this provider attempted to get LEO to deal with her pimp but they failed to do so. Selective enforcement?
--It was ultimately clients who helped her exit. One wonders how the writer felt about having to portray mongers in a positive light.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;2475074]Some thoughts:
--We've seen any number of providers charged with Promoting in cases that would not appear to warrant it. It's disconcerting to sees that this provider attempted to get LEO to deal with her pimp but they failed to do so. Selective enforcement?
--It was ultimately clients who helped her exit. One wonders how the writer felt about having to portray mongers in a positive light.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]The charges of promoting increase bail costs. Which most bail bond companies don't like to take a big chance on someone from out of town. It holds them till court. The writer more than likely didn't look at that aspect of that.
I'm sure many people on this board has at some point helped a provider out. Some more than others.
[QUOTE=TrailerGuy;2474293]Gentlemen, it is a very interesting story. It is only part of the whole story of some lady's experience in the lifestyle. It sounds like the dark side of the lifestyle. Its not uncommon for the trafficking stories to get lost because they are still running from pimps and influences to keep them doing what returns them money. Yes sometimes drugs are involved but a majority of the time its the money. As the old saying goes " money is the root of all evil". I have had several conversations with a few providers that have come and gone. Some were getting S. S. Disability and needed to supplement and others just loved sex and figured they would get paid for it till getting tied up with the uncle. Its hard to say its just drugs until the whole story is know.[/QUOTE]No doubt there are several factors / reasons how a provider ends up in the lifestyle, some by choice others not so. I am very well aware of that and that is the reason why I stated in my original post that I would only "stick to this story". At the very least, it's all about choices this educated provider made, some which are obviously not mentioned, and don't forget she had people who offered to help but she chose not to accept. I have heard of mongers offering to help certain providers get out of the lifestyle but for some reason they choose not to accept the help. I could go on and on regarding this topic but that would be a long read.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;2475074]Some thoughts:
--We've seen any number of providers charged with Promoting in cases that would not appear to warrant it. It's disconcerting to sees that this provider attempted to get LEO to deal with her pimp but they failed to do so. Selective enforcement?
--It was ultimately clients who helped her exit. One wonders how the writer felt about having to portray mongers in a positive light.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]It does not surprise me that LEO failed to deal with her pimp, "selective enforcement" it is. Unfortunately there is too much room for discretion in how LEO goes about enforcing the laws and also pursuing cases. I understand sometimes they don't have the man power but I have seen too many examples of LEO simply just not going out of their way to pursue certain crimes. Be it because they don't have the time, they have no idea who they are looking for, or simply because the person reporting it "deserves what they got" for their involvement in the case. Also, some cases are just not as important as others so they are at the very low end of the totem pole.
Subject of the article sounds a lot like the great AJ.
[QUOTE=JLBloveshe;2476927]Subject of the article sounds a lot like the great AJ.[/QUOTE]You know, I have no idea of who it sounds like.
I never assume. It makes an ass out of you and me.
I just saw this:
[URL]http://www.scrippsmedia.com/newschannel5/news/Police-Raid-Strip-Club-For-Allegedly-Selling-Painkillers-To-Patrons-304517691.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=RebelKnight13;2477318]I just saw this:
[URL]http://www.scrippsmedia.com/newschannel5/news/Police-Raid-Strip-Club-For-Allegedly-Selling-Painkillers-To-Patrons-304517691.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Note the reply in the comments there:
"Gabrielles Nashville · Dancer at Gabrielle's VIP Club.
It wasn't a co owner. This isn't the whole story. Got to love the drama of the news. ".
Also, the MNPD twitter feed says:
"Narcotics detectives raiding Wicked Angels strip club. Co-owner dealing painkillers to patrons. ".
Notice they don't say "alleged". Hello, libel suit!
-Jeepster1.
Be careful and do you homework.
[URL]http://www.wsmv.com/story/29137239/tbi-arrests-14-in-human-trafficking-crackdown[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jwstn;2479750]Be careful and do you homework.
[URL]http://www.wsmv.com/story/29137239/tbi-arrests-14-in-human-trafficking-crackdown[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]http://clarksvillenow.com/local/multiple-clarksville-residents-charged-with-human-trafficking/[/URL]
Now let's see if I've got this straight:
1. Women who have pimps are considered victims, and get off scot-free.
2. Women who don't have pimps are being classified as mere evil worthless prostitutes, thus are arrested and given permanent records and public shaming in the media.
3. Net result: Women are incentivized to get pimps.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;2479894][URL]http://clarksvillenow.com/local/multiple-clarksville-residents-charged-with-human-trafficking/[/URL]
Now let's see if I've got this straight:
1. Women who have pimps are considered victims, and get off scot-free.
2. Women who don't have pimps are being classified as mere evil worthless prostitutes, thus are arrested and given permanent records and public shaming in the media.
3. Net result: Women are incentivized to get pimps.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]Darned if you don't have me all discombobulated.
If those in the sex business are innocent victims if they have a pimp (and are thusly spared arrest), while the independent.
Ones are arrested, then why don't we, as mongers, get pimps?
We could claim to be victims. And with pimps handling our 'business arrangements' for us, all the hassles of providing.
References to providers would be eliminated.
Yes, we might need to be availiable to 'service' the ladies at their beckon call. But what a small price to pay.
I'm sure others can provide even other benefits.
BB.
[QUOTE=BabblinB;2480134]Darned if you don't have me all discombobulated.
If those in the sex business are innocent victims if they have a pimp (and are thusly spared arrest), while the independent.
Ones are arrested, then why don't we, as mongers, get pimps?
We could claim to be victims. And with pimps handling our 'business arrangements' for us, all the hassles of providing.
References to providers would be eliminated.
Yes, we might need to be availiable to 'service' the ladies at their beckon call. But what a small price to pay.
I'm sure others can provide even other benefits.
BB.[/QUOTE]Would we get some cool cars out of this?
I need an Escalade to haul some lumber.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=JLBloveshe;2476927]Subject of the article sounds a lot like the great AJ.[/QUOTE]It's not her. I've seen her picture. Honestly it doesn't take a lot of detective work to find it.