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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5439974]If there is anyone here that thinks an allowance isn't paying for sex. Please speak up. LOL. Sorry I couldn't help myself.[/QUOTE]For sure, there are many girls who don't believe they are prostituting themselves when they seek out sugar daddies. They think for some reason since they aren't advertising on particular websites and aren't loitering on the street corner, there's something different about it. Obviously, they are wrong. Some girls are super naive, as well. I have a buddy who has a girlfriend that I can't stand (but that's a side issue). One day, we were all hanging out and she starting telling me, in front her boyfriend, mind you, that she was thinking about posting on SA because she "could get $500/ hour just to have dinner with old rich guys. " I, unbeknownst to them, a long time monger, proceeded to tell her that any guy that was going to pay her $500 for dinner was going to expect sex afterward. She tried to argue with me about it, which was ridiculous. I ended up telling her that she would be prostituting herself either way because even if it was just dinner, she would be getting paid a large amount of money to be some random guy's sex fantasy for an hour. I didn't bother telling her that she could also be putting herself in a risky situation by making a random guy feel robbed. I mean seriously, how naive could you be?

From the guy's standpoint, I think every guy knows that an allowance is paying for sex, but in some peoples' mind, being a sugar daddy to some civie is different than paying a prostitute for a quick nut. I guess in some ways it is, and in some ways it isn't. But, it's all prostitution, nonetheless.

So if you are a male pleb king like me, there are certain mandatory youtube channels, such as:

Styxhexenhammer666, gotham chess, German in Venice, edp445 (RIP), Daniel king chess, hoag vlogs, and ohnoosho.

But of seminal importance is soft white underbelly, run by Mark L. Mark apparently is some big deal in the photography ad world and decided that he would interview addicts, hookers, pimps, and other mental defecitives.

Anyhow, from time to time he tries to help out the people on the channel and all he does is complain that he makes no money off the channel, youtube demonetizes him, his keys fall to the floor because of gravity, etc.

He tried to make the channel profitable by selling subscriptions, he got like 500 subs.

So he does it for free, and most of the videos are demonetized. I flag each one.

Anyhoo, if the interviewee. Oh and he is absolutely, oprah included, the worst interviewer. Is a male, he may get them a phone or a sandwich.

But this one, well, he bought her a fucken BMW.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGhQdBizQGg[/URL]

She totaled the beemer and goes on for an hour about how she is trying to stop being a ho.

This guy makes it seems like he is all pure. He has been spotted trolling the fig. He did not give this girl a beemer because of her looks.

*The site posted the pics in a different order than I uploaded them. So, Heather Kim is the tatted girl, Sinvee is the girl in the white lingerie, the IG girl is in the pink, and well, you can see the fatty LOL.

I hope people see this post. I don't know how many of us are on this thread, but I think it's the only appropriate place. There has been an ongoing debate in the Asian / kgirl threads about certain girls being fat (or not). There's all this argument about subjectivity vs. Objectivity, etc. I am going to post some pics here to try to clarify my position on body interpretation and "fatness. " I hope others will engage and give their opinion, whether or not is coincides with my own.

The first set of pictures is an Instagram model who seems to have a very softcore OF page. The second set is retired provider Heather Kim. The third set is Sinvee, who has been hotly debated in the Asian / Kgirl threads. I find all three of these girls to be gorgeous and would be very pleased to find similar girls behind the door. In my mind, they are "thick" and "curvy," but they are not "fat." Yes, they have thick thighs, a big waist, and you can't see their ribs, hip bones, or spine. However, I also do not see fat rolls, or cottage cheese thighs, and while they are not "skinny" or "spinners," I think they are overall healthy women who are not in bad shape.

The last girl is a random Reddit girl who I think is indisputably fat, and unhealthy; she is indeed generously endowed with fat rolls. I would walk out if I found her behind the door.

Except for the girl with big belly, none of those girls are fat. I may walk out on that girl, keyword [B]may[/B], because of her face. Asian culture is different. Some Korean girls think they are fat even when I thought they had no extra fat. You will get a lot of arguments from Asian guys. It's almost like a girl is fat if she's not on a diet or working out.

[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;5440693]*The site posted the pics in a different order than I uploaded them. So, Heather Kim is the tatted girl, Sinvee is the girl in the white lingerie, the IG girl is in the pink, and well, you can see the fatty LOL.

I hope people see this post. I don't know how many of us are on this thread, but I think it's the only appropriate place. There has been an ongoing debate in the Asian / kgirl threads about certain girls being fat (or not). There's all this argument about subjectivity vs. Objectivity, etc. I am going to post some pics here to try to clarify my position on body interpretation and "fatness. " I hope others will engage and give their opinion, whether or not is coincides with my own.

The first set of pictures is an Instagram model who seems to have a very softcore OF page. The second set is retired provider Heather Kim. The third set is Sinvee, who has been hotly debated in the Asian / Kgirl threads. I find all three of these girls to be gorgeous and would be very pleased to find similar girls behind the door. In my mind, they are "thick" and "curvy," but they are not "fat." Yes, they have thick thighs, a big waist, and you can't see their ribs, hip bones, or spine. However, I also do not see fat rolls, or cottage cheese thighs, and while they are not "skinny" or "spinners," I think they are overall healthy women who are not in bad shape.

The last girl is a random Reddit girl who I think is indisputably fat, and unhealthy; she is indeed generously endowed with fat rolls. I would walk out if I found her behind the door.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5439974]If there is anyone here that thinks an allowance isn't paying for sex. Please speak up. LOL. Sorry I couldn't help myself.[/QUOTE]I lost a buddy over his sugar habit. He would regale me with his tales of allowances, "dates", fucking, etc, and said that it was really just like normal stuff. Every once in a while he actually met some deskhen shitbag girls looking to make some money on the side after being dumped by their husband. He maintained that he was not paying for sex, and one girl actually took a trip with him to vegas. It ended after that because he realized just how toxic she was.

My friend did not date the AA, which I see some do and are getting wholesale pricing.

So, I told him, look dude, I agree, you are not paying for sex, you are paying too much for sex.

He cut me off as a friend. Funny thing was he was divorcing his wife, but he kept a diary of his sugar cunts, and she found it. It made the divorce much more painful for him.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5440971]I lost a buddy over his sugar habit. He would regale me with his tales of allowances, "dates", fucking, etc, and said that it was really just like normal stuff. Every once in a while he actually met some deskhen shitbag girls looking to make some money on the side after being dumped by their husband. He maintained that he was not paying for sex, and one girl actually took a trip with him to vegas. It ended after that because he realized just how toxic she was.

My friend did not date the AA, which I see some do and are getting wholesale pricing.

So, I told him, look dude, I agree, you are not paying for sex, you are paying too much for sex.

He cut me off as a friend. Funny thing was he was divorcing his wife, but he kept a diary of his sugar cunts, and she found it. It made the divorce much more painful for him.[/QUOTE]What I find even more hilarious are the guys that do not pay the girl cash directly or an allowance, but drive a 6 figure auto, rent 4/5 star rooms, take the girls shopping, get bottle service at the club and go to mastros and the like and say, "I never pay for sex". Yes they get to enjoy the dates as well but please bro (whoever you may be) get off your high horse. On this site (except for the very high rollers), we are paying far less & having to put up with an equal amount less of the BS that comes with civi dating, a GF or SO. I have had 5 or 6 for real SB GF's and every one cost me emotionally and except for 2 far more financially.

Of the two that were reasonable (both of whom I fucked about 200 times each), one had a decent job, and the other had two other better paying SD's, one of whom she eventually ran off with and got married.

I love it, mufftime / Toungstens post discrediting monger about his review got moved here.

He's now furious on the TER board trying to come up with evidence that that review was fake. His evidence is "booker and manager deny it" and that the reviewer gives Lmao.

Damage control posts are sooo cute.

[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;5440693]*The site posted the pics in a different order than I uploaded them. So, Heather Kim is the tatted girl, Sinvee is the girl in the white lingerie, the IG girl is in the pink, and well, you can see the fatty LOL.

I hope people see this post. I don't know how many of us are on this thread, but I think it's the only appropriate place. There has been an ongoing debate in the Asian / kgirl threads about certain girls being fat (or not). There's all this argument about subjectivity vs. Objectivity, etc. I am going to post some pics here to try to clarify my position on body interpretation and "fatness. " I hope others will engage and give their opinion, whether or not is coincides with my own.

The first set of pictures is an Instagram model who seems to have a very softcore OF page. The second set is retired provider Heather Kim. The third set is Sinvee, who has been hotly debated in the Asian / Kgirl threads. I find all three of these girls to be gorgeous and would be very pleased to find similar girls behind the door. In my mind, they are "thick" and "curvy," but they are not "fat." Yes, they have thick thighs, a big waist, and you can't see their ribs, hip bones, or spine. However, I also do not see fat rolls, or cottage cheese thighs, and while they are not "skinny" or "spinners," I think they are overall healthy women who are not in bad shape.

The last girl is a random Reddit girl who I think is indisputably fat, and unhealthy; she is indeed generously endowed with fat rolls. I would walk out if I found her behind the door.[/QUOTE]Fat girls are tighter and get wetter.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5440666]So if you are a male pleb king like me, there are certain mandatory youtube channels, such as:

Styxhexenhammer666, gotham chess, German in Venice, edp445 (RIP), Daniel king chess, hoag vlogs, and ohnoosho.

But of seminal importance is soft white underbelly, run by Mark L. Mark apparently is some big deal in the photography ad world and decided that he would interview addicts, hookers, pimps, and other mental defecitives.

Anyhow, from time to time he tries to help out the people on the channel and all he does is complain that he makes no money off the channel, youtube demonetizes him, his keys fall to the floor because of gravity, etc.

He tried to make the channel profitable by selling subscriptions, he got like 500 subs.

So he does it for free, and most of the videos are demonetized. I flag each one.

Anyhoo, if the interviewee. Oh and he is absolutely, oprah included, the worst interviewer. Is a male, he may get them a phone or a sandwich.

But this one, well, he bought her a fucken BMW.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGhQdBizQGg[/URL]

She totaled the beemer and goes on for an hour about how she is trying to stop being a ho.

This guy makes it seems like he is all pure. He has been spotted trolling the fig. He did not give this girl a beemer because of her looks.[/QUOTE]I've not spent 10 minutes watching his content. Always get this "pimp dressed as a white knight" vibe.

[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;5440693]*The site posted the pics in a different order than I uploaded them. So, Heather Kim is the tatted girl, Sinvee is the girl in the white lingerie, the IG girl is in the pink, and well, you can see the fatty LOL.

I hope people see this post. I don't know how many of us are on this thread, but I think it's the only appropriate place. There has been an ongoing debate in the Asian / kgirl threads about certain girls being fat (or not). There's all this argument about subjectivity vs. Objectivity, etc. I am going to post some pics here to try to clarify my position on body interpretation and "fatness. " I hope others will engage and give their opinion, whether or not is coincides with my own.

The first set of pictures is an Instagram model who seems to have a very softcore OF page. The second set is retired provider Heather Kim. The third set is Sinvee, who has been hotly debated in the Asian / Kgirl threads. I find all three of these girls to be gorgeous and would be very pleased to find similar girls behind the door. In my mind, they are "thick" and "curvy," but they are not "fat." Yes, they have thick thighs, a big waist, and you can't see their ribs, hip bones, or spine. However, I also do not see fat rolls, or cottage cheese thighs, and while they are not "skinny" or "spinners," I think they are overall healthy women who are not in bad shape.

The last girl is a random Reddit girl who I think is indisputably fat, and unhealthy; she is indeed generously endowed with fat rolls. I would walk out if I found her behind the door.[/QUOTE]Imo just like with everything, there are different gradations. The last girls is not just fat, she's obese and is in a bbw territory. You can also be fat without being obese or in bbw territory.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5439974]If there is anyone here that thinks an allowance isn't paying for sex. Please speak up. LOL. Sorry I couldn't help myself.[/QUOTE]Whatever helps someone sleep at night, I suppose.

[QUOTE=Tjinla2001;5441466]Fat girls are tighter and get wetter.[/QUOTE]And, more surface to have "BO"! (body odor).

[QUOTE=Toungsten;5437135]I saw a review of Dana today in which she offered anal which caught my attention immediately. I called and spoke with the booker and manager with whom I'm very familiar and was told emphatically that it is not true. It was posted by someone with notoriously low scores and this one was not much different in spite of the offering of anal. All I can say is that the information I got tells me that we should not go in there with a predisposition for going to the Greek isles. It just ain't going to happen and now puts Dana in an awkward situation.[/QUOTE]Translation = you are the bookers mouthpiece.

What does the guy being a low grader has to do with anything? I've asked you on the other forum and I'll ask you here. Not a gotdamn thing. If you think someone has to get better scorss if anal is offered, this ain't true at all.

I'm glad this post was moved here to fight club. Oh boy am I glad. This means that the system is working and you won't be allowed to shit on peoples opinions and discredit them based on what the booker / girl thinks. Hallelujah! Bros >>>> pros.

[QUOTE=RocketManP;5441502]Imo just like with everything, there are different gradations. The last girls is not just fat, she's obese and is in a bbw territory. You can also be fat without being obese or in bbw territory.[/QUOTE]There is definitely a huge range of body types, and a big gap in body fat percentage between the first three girls and the last one. Likewise, I believe a girl can be thick but not fat, not skinny, but not fat. Thick but not fat is where I would place the first three girls. I actually thought Heather was quite fit when I used to see her. Her body was tight, aside from her jiggly bubble butt, which was a sight to behold.

To Boner's point, there are definitely also cultural differences in perception of weight. Surely in Korea, people would call the first three girls "fat. " Well, I am not Korean and I love me some thick thighs and booty.

[QUOTE=RocketManP;5441540]Translation = you are the bookers mouthpiece.

What does the guy being a low grader has to do with anything? I've asked you on the other forum and I'll ask you here. Not a gotdamn thing. If you think someone has to get better scorss if anal is offered, this ain't true at all.

I'm glad this post was moved here to fight club. Oh boy am I glad. This means that the system is working and you won't be allowed to shit on peoples opinions and discredit them based on what the booker / girl thinks. Hallelujah! Bros >>>> pros.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toungsten;5437135]I saw a review of Dana today in which she offered anal which caught my attention immediately. I called and spoke with the booker and manager with whom I'm very familiar and was told emphatically that it is not true. (…) All I can say is that the information I got tells me that we should not go in there with a predisposition for going to the Greek isles. It just ain't going to happen and now puts Dana in an awkward situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toungsten;5384468]This business is basically YMMV except for the rare provider and even they get criticisms about looks, service, etc. Not to beat a dead horse but. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Why so quiet about 'YMMV' all of sudden?? Oh man. For someone that likely wears tighty-whities with 'YMMV' embroidered on the front, you sure know when to stfu.