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[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2849833]I loved the stories and they shaped me into the freak I am today. Life was simple back then.
I guess this is one of those times that we may disagree. I completely agree with your philosophy, but you or many other main stream providers may have already seen him. He is a persona on this board but nobody really knows who he is. The only thing that is somewhat trackable is his attitude and writing style. Even those could be a character he portrays only here. However unless he gives his handle on this board before a visit, you will never know who is knocking at the door. The best thing to do is to ignore him, but there are too many pricks in this yard to do that. Pricks meaning anyone that posts in this thread.
Geez as well as you know Ilapp hasn't he already conveyed to you that I have no character? He knows that I am truly an asshole.
[BLUE]While jerking off isn't as much fun as getting your dick sucked it does take care of business. A2[/BLUE]
I especially like jerking off while watching freckled porn on my 85" UHDTV and with "3d" it's almost like getting my dick sucked. Hey does anyone know how to clean a TV screen?[/QUOTE]Windex or lens cleaner. LOL!
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[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2856867]I have not seen Heidi but have multiple personal friends who have. Their opinions widely very from yours. She may not be a Rhodes Scholar but how many of us are. Even if that is the case, is that really necessary? If you have a bad experience, feel free to give your review and why you were not pleased. However, bad mouthing a young lady just based on a conversation with her is not warranted. If you had read previous reports on her, there is a high likelihood that you were not speaking with her anyways. Comments like that is why The Prickyard was created.
Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]If you head west on I-80 from Salt Lake City, you'll see the Morton plant, where small mountains of salt are piled, waiting to be purified and shipped to packing facilities. It's one of the few things to see between SLC and the Nevada line where I once won about $400, which paid for an interesting trip to a brothel in Wells, Nevada. But that's not important.
Until someone gives a review that reads like a real review, I take it with a grain, or a bucket of salt. It's too easy to drop a name, mimic an earlier review and add to your post count. Hell, I mentioned freckles a few times early on, to build my credibility.
With the Heidi reference, I'm reminded of something I noticed when I began to use TripAdvisor. It started with a review for a hotel I was considering in Bogota. The reviewer completely trashed the place, Staff rude, building was a dump, very dangerous area, etc. Reading further uncovered the real issue. He reserved a room, but didn't pay attention to the email from the hotel telling him to call the hotel if he was arriving after 10 pm, with his arrival time. When he arrived, the door was locked, so he began kicking and hitting the door and screaming. The desk clerk was afraid to unlock the door, so the customer went to another hotel.
I stayed there and everything was perfect, except for the construction in the area, which started at 7 am and sometimes went until 10 pm.
My suspicion is that the reviewer either failed Heidi's verification, or made an error which caused him to be turned down. That's when the "I'll show her" attitude kicks in.
Annoying voice? No problem. There is a simple, spelled BBBJ, solution. As smart as a box of rocks? Once again, no problem. Just ask "Do you know the difference between CIM and a diamond ring?" When she says "No" tell her, "Here's your diamond ring. ".
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[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2857738]You're kidding right? This is some strange April Fools prank. Surely it's not possible to be a senior member without knowing who Mmgeg is. Certainly any senior would know how to use the search function to find one of the 45 different posts in 3 threads mentioning Mmgeg. And there's no way you'll convince me that someone, after reading her USAClassified ad would think she's either a massage parlor or a BP advertiser.
Good thing I lost my faith in humanity long ago, or I would be disappointed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DaveRue;2857570]Dude, you posted the same request in the massage parlor thread. Mmgeg is NOT a massage parlor and has never posted an ad on BackPage. So why would you ask about her in these threads? I said this in your other post, You are a senior member who asks for a lot of intel with little to share. Do some research in the correct thread. I would expect this behavior from a newbie not a senior.[/QUOTE]I failed to respond to this last night because there was more pressing matters of a red nature.
Should we expect anything else from a monger who over the last 5 years has requested info 32 times and only provided info 4 and that info was very short or of little benefit.
I am guilty (possibly more than anyone) of playing around on the board with fun time posts. However, when the time calls, I share the info that I know when requested and attempt to watch out for my fellow monger. Even those that I do not personally know. Whether or are a long standing senior or a newbie, have fun on the forum but don't simply be a leech.
Indy Guy.
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What the hell was that?
[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2859972]It's usually because they have a regular that they don't want to lose, that has paid more than you, for longer. Or because they passed out because of drugs. Get used to sitting outside a place for an uncomfortable amount of time, then watching the last banged dude's silhouette walk from the porch to his car. Then you saying "well, I've sat here for an extra hour. Might as well. " and then you get Hep see or whatever. Welcome to the modern monger. Do you want a wh. Sex worker that is addicted to heroine, meth, or crack? Because those are your options. You won't get a Julia Roberts virgin w. Sex worker here.[/QUOTE]The thread is called "USA Adult Classifieds. Advertiser Reviews", not "Make Unwarranted Accusations About People You Don't Know. " If an advertiser provides poor service or tries to scam people, then a bad review / warning is justified. However, attacking the advertisers is not only out of line, it's bad for business.
Advertising works when it brings in customers, which brings in more advertisers, which brings more customers.
Do you run some investigative service, where mongers call you when a provider doesn't respond, or changes an appointment? Then you rush over to find out why? Otherwise, how do you know the most common reason for cancellations?
Have you seen BreSexi? Why do you assume she's a white, diseased drug addict? I'm fairly certain you're wrong on all 3 counts.
The only thing you got right is still screwed up. In case you haven't noticed, Julia Roberts is white. Unless specified, everyone assumes any person being compared to Julia Roberts is also white. I'm assuming you mentioned Julia Roberts because of the movie "Pretty Woman" (although the way your logic seems to work it could be because of The Beatles "White Album" Why attach the word "virgin"? Maybe you didn't understand the movie, but Julia Roberts played the role of an experienced prostitute. Most of us figure that rules out virgin.
The point is, nobody is expecting to find a white, virgin, experienced streetwalker who looks like Julia Roberts, especially when they are contacting a well and often reviewed black escort.
The big question is, why are you here? It's obvious you have no respect for the providers, you seem to consider them all diseased addicts with no integrity. You don't seem to be interested in either partaking of any of the services which are discussed here, or in offering any useful advice. From what I've seen, the only thing you have to offer, I can get better and fresher from any pasture.
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[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2860468]The thread is called "USA Adult Classifieds. Advertiser Reviews", not "Make Unwarranted Accusations About People You Don't Know. " If an advertiser provides poor service or tries to scam people, then a bad review / warning is justified. However, attacking the advertisers is not only out of line, it's bad for business.
Advertising works when it brings in customers, which brings in more advertisers, which brings more customers.
Do you run some investigative service, where mongers call you when a provider doesn't respond, or changes an appointment? Then you rush over to find out why? Otherwise, how do you know the most common reason for cancellations?
Have you seen BreSexi? Why do you assume she's a white, diseased drug addict? I'm fairly certain you're wrong on all 3 counts.
The only thing you got right is still screwed up. In case you haven't noticed, Julia Roberts is white. Unless specified, everyone assumes any person being compared to Julia Roberts is also white. I'm assuming you mentioned Julia Roberts because of the movie "Pretty Woman" (although the way your logic seems to work it could be because of The Beatles "White Album" Why attach the word "virgin"? Maybe you didn't understand the movie, but Julia Roberts played the role of an experienced prostitute. Most of us figure that rules out virgin.
The point is, nobody is expecting to find a white, virgin, experienced streetwalker who looks like Julia Roberts, especially when they are contacting a well and often reviewed black escort.
The big question is, why are you here? It's obvious you have no respect for the providers, you seem to consider them all diseased addicts with no integrity. You don't seem to be interested in either partaking of any of the services which are discussed here, or in offering any useful advice. From what I've seen, the only thing you have to offer, I can get better and fresher from any pasture.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. This is not directed at FarEastMan but just in general. Apparantly in '16, many mongers have made resolutions to take a high and mighty, holier than you approach. Remember guys, you are contacting them for their service. Everyone is saying that there is more where she came from. Keep in mind, there are more of us than there is of them. A provider generally is not going to suffer and disappear because you do not like her or did not see her. For every monger that is on this board, there is 10 that are not and the ratio gets even bigger for BP girls.
Sincerely signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (This may be my new signature strictly for this thread).
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Here is a scenario. You are a single man. You go on a personal website to meet a lady. She catches your interest. She has a classy profile picture. However, she also has a picture from a recent vacation to the beach. It is a sexy picture of her in a bikini. Now you proceed to contact her and successfully work out a date. You meet her. Are you going to immediately start talking about how sexy her picture is? Worst yet, tell her you found it so hot that you were touching yourself while looking at it. If you did, are you going to get a second date? Worst yet is if you talked about this before the first date. You wouldn't even get the first date and would likely get your number and profile blocked.
Now flip this to the escort business. Who gives a fuck if a provider has done porn? All that means if you can get a preview of the skills that the lady may possess. If you like it so much sit at home and jerk off to it before and appt or do that then stay home and save the money. Keep in mind that the scene may have took several takes and face it guys none of us are porn stars even if she can fake it so well that you think you are for an hour.
Even though they may work in the sex industry, they are people bottom line. They enjoy the men that are gentlemen and will treat them respectable. I have had monger friends tell me you need to go see lady X. She will fick your brains out. Do you think I am ever going to say that to her over text or even face to face? Fuck no! Many guys on this board talk about learning so much from Ilapp, FF, and me (many others should also be included in that). Well take a lesson from one of those guys. Don't be that way. You want a GFE. Well it goes both ways. There is a certain provider I know that says I am a BFE. She loves it, wants to see me, and this causes our times to be great. As my good friend BG says, "give and get respect. " Notice that starts with give respect. Once you do, the respect will be returned ten fold.
Sincerely signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (although never a prick to the ladies).
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Just a thought
Perhaps this should go in general reports, but it'll get out there nevertheless. Freckle Freak, the man responsible for the newbie's suggestions thread, would be a good person to start a new thread, based on his genuine care for all of us here. Especially seeing that the newbie forum is considered mandatory reading in many other parts of the country. What I'm suggesting is an advice thread aimed towards the providers who are new to this industry, and a few seasoned veterans who could use some helpful hints. Ilaap, Indyguy and Sara would be great contributors to this thread. New providers need helpful hints about timekeeping, cleanliness, personal safety, and all around good business practices. They should also be made aware of the ramifications of poor service. (Think Leslie) and the damage it can do to their reputation. The rules may not even allow this thread, I'm not sure. And FF is probably a busy man, so I'm okay getting a FO from FF for even suggesting this. Some girls I've met along the way really seem to have a good heart, and I try to give my advice as I think might help them, but lets face it, I'm still a bit green here. Me trying to tackle this monumental task is like putting a second grader in charge of NASA. I welcome everyone's input on this, here in the public forum!! Thanks! Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2860569]Here is a scenario. You are a single man. You go on a personal website to meet a lady. She catches your interest. She has a classy profile picture. However, she also has a picture from a recent vacation to the beach. It is a sexy picture of her in a bikini. Now you proceed to contact her and successfully work out a date. You meet her. Are you going to immediately start talking about how sexy her picture is? Worst yet, tell her you found it so hot that you were touching yourself while looking at it. If you did, are you going to get a second date? Worst yet is if you talked about this before the first date. You wouldn't even get the first date and would likely get your number and profile blocked.
Now flip this to the escort business. Who gives a fuck if a provider has done porn? All that means if you can get a preview of the skills that the lady may possess. If you like it so much sit at home and jerk off to it before and appt or do that then stay home and save the money. Keep in mind that the scene may have took several takes and face it guys none of us are porn stars even if she can fake it so well that you think you are for an hour.
Even though they may work in the sex industry, they are people bottom line. They enjoy the men that are gentlemen and will treat them respectable. I have had monger friends tell me you need to go see lady X. She will fick your brains out. Do you think I am ever going to say that to her over text or even face to face? Fuck no! Many guys on this board talk about learning so much from Ilapp, FF, and me (many others should also be included in that). Well take a lesson from one of those guys. Don't be that way. You want a GFE. Well it goes both ways. There is a certain provider I know that says I am a BFE. She loves it, wants to see me, and this causes our times to be great. As my good friend BG says, "give and get respect. " Notice that starts with give respect. Once you do, the respect will be returned ten fold.
Sincerely signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (although never a prick to the ladies).[/QUOTE]I was just about to write something on that subject and you beat me to it. I'll write it anyway.
Imagine you have a hot, single neighbor. One night you look out your window and she's doing every position with some guy, and she left the drapes open. If you go over the next day and tell her what you saw she'll probably be pissed. Not only will you never get the free show again, but you'll never have the chance to be the star. However, if you keep your mouth shut and treat her right, a few months down the road you might be laughing about it with her.
If a provider has made porn, unless she brings it up, don't mention it. She may be embarrassed, she may be mad because she got cheated on the deal, or she may feel you will have unreasonable expectations.
If a provider doesn't want to see you because you mentioned seeing her porn, try to understand it from her view. It's something that makes her uncomfortable and if she's not comfortable, don't expect a session.
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[QUOTE=Kyussfan;2860621]Perhaps this should go in general reports, but it'll get out there nevertheless. Freckle Freak, the man responsible for the newbie's suggestions thread, would be a good person to start a new thread, based on his genuine care for all of us here. Especially seeing that the newbie forum is considered mandatory reading in many other parts of the country. What I'm suggesting is an advice thread aimed towards the providers who are new to this industry, and a few seasoned veterans who could use some helpful hints. Ilaap, Indyguy and Sara would be great contributors to this thread. New providers need helpful hints about timekeeping, cleanliness, personal safety, and all around good business practices. They should also be made aware of the ramifications of poor service. (Think Leslie) and the damage it can do to their reputation. The rules may not even allow this thread, I'm not sure. And FF is probably a busy man, so I'm okay getting a FO from FF for even suggesting this. Some girls I've met along the way really seem to have a good heart, and I try to give my advice as I think might help them, but lets face it, I'm still a bit green here. Me trying to tackle this monumental task is like putting a second grader in charge of NASA. I welcome everyone's input on this, here in the public forum!! Thanks! Happy hunting![/QUOTE]KY, I get your point but here are my initial thoughts. Most of the newer providers that would truly benefit from this are not on this board anyways. Question is do we really want them here? Hopefully A2 won't slap me for this but I do not want every new provider that someone goes to see to be told about the board. This already happens too much. This really opens the whole community to elevated risk. The newer providers are the ones with DANGEROUS business practices. I for one do not want an H user getting busted and handing over her account to try and soften her blow. Most of the providers that are on this board are more of the examples that we wish they all were. Yes, there can be issues with some of them but they are the exception rather than the rule. I am not sure what any of use are going to tell Sara, MMGEG, Emme, Natalie, etc. That they don't already know. If we do have a concern or suggestion then we generally share it with them directly for consideration.
Please understand I do like the suggestion. I am just skeptical of the value without opening it up for too much risk. Not sure about everyone else but I personally do not want a Leslie, a little redhead spinner that keeps getting popped or a similar provider on the board.
That being said, if there is enough support for it, I would even be willing to create and moderate. If any one of us bow out from the board, we could hand over reigns to someone else. Other thought guys? (To save space dont reply to report, just post a new report)
Indy Guy.
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Don't
[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2860338]Anyone know of any providers in the Cumberland area? AMP would be fine too.
I suspect one of my neighbors is a provider of some sort, but she doesn't have a website; any advice on how to break the ice?[/QUOTE]If one of your neighbors is some kind of provider, she probably doesn't want you to know. The last thing she needs is a pathetic dipshit of a neighbor who will call the police if she won't give him freebies.
Why do you suspect she's a provider? Is she a white, drug addict with Hepatitis? You just said that's what all providers are.
Why would you even think she has a website and what makes you certain you could find it? From what I've seen from your posts, you couldn't find your own ass with a flashlight, a map and a Sherpa guiding you.
Your neighbors, whether bankers or providers, have a right to their privacy, especially if they are providers. I hope nobody on the board is stupid enough to help you invade your neighbors privacy. However, you've proven that level of ignorance is already present, so I suppose it's a possibility.
Here's why that is a really bad idea.
Back in the 90's I had a stripper friend. Earlier in her career she had been a national act, but she was over 30 and no longer semi-famous. She danced a lot of bachelor parties and had an ad in the Yellow Pages.
One year the phone company messed up her ad. Instead of putting her work phone number and p. O. Box address, they put in her home phone number and address. Within 2 weeks of the new phone books coming out she received several death threats, a whole bunch of obscene phone calls, an attempted break in, an attempted rape and had all her tires slashed. She had to move, put her new apartment in a friend's name, get a new, unlisted phone number, a new car and get rid of her personalized license plate. The last I heard she was suing PacBell.
All that because someone accidentally took away her privacy.
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Catch 22
Indyguy made a very valid point. My mama once said before she cancelled her oxygen subscription " Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it". I for one, don't tell the girls about our clubhouse nor do I discuss it, unless they already have a membership badge. However, many of them seem to find the entrance to the Batcave somehow! But you're right, giving the launch codes to raw recruits could cause us unnecessary headaches. My homemade moonshine already does that for me. Man. Now I'm lost. I'm agreeing with Sir Indyguy, so now I'll wait for the other knights of the monger table to respond. How do we guide the ones that need guidance, and still defend the castle at the same time? Pipe dream? I'd like to hear what everyone thinks!!
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Spoon feeding
[QUOTE=Kyussfan;2860621]Perhaps this should go in general reports, but it'll get out there nevertheless. Freckle Freak, the man responsible for the newbie's suggestions thread, would be a good person to start a new thread, based on his genuine care for all of us here. Especially seeing that the newbie forum is considered mandatory reading in many other parts of the country. What I'm suggesting is an advice thread aimed towards the providers who are new to this industry, and a few seasoned veterans who could use some helpful hints. Ilaap, Indyguy and Sara would be great contributors to this thread. New providers need helpful hints about timekeeping, cleanliness, personal safety, and all around good business practices. They should also be made aware of the ramifications of poor service. (Think Leslie) and the damage it can do to their reputation. The rules may not even allow this thread, I'm not sure. And FF is probably a busy man, so I'm okay getting a FO from FF for even suggesting this. Some girls I've met along the way really seem to have a good heart, and I try to give my advice as I think might help them, but lets face it, I'm still a bit green here. Me trying to tackle this monumental task is like putting a second grader in charge of NASA. I welcome everyone's input on this, here in the public forum!! Thanks! Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Ummmm, I think what you are suggesting runs a chance of crossing that fine line that could result in "promoting" charges. They also have to want the help. There are three separate ladies that were reached out to because of bad experiences that either wouldn't take the time or make the effort to get the help you suggested and I'll be darned if I will spoon feed them. I'll help anyone but not at the risk of exposing myself to potential problems or if they won't at least make an effort to follow through. I have offered to help with safety, but those other issues deal with common sense and common courtesy and if they don't know or exhibit those things now, I don't know that I could help. Providers can be catty and don't necessarily want told how to run their business. A few months back in another city a girl on BP included her hotel and room number in her ad I reached out and asked if she was trying to get busted. I was told to go f*€k myself that it was her business.
On those occasions that there is a provider that needs assistance and you think I might be able to assist in keeping them safe, don't just have them contact me. Please give a heads up.
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Helping the fresh meat
On paper it sounds like a good idea. But in practice, it will never work.
For a brief period (about 20 years) I spent a lot of time in strip clubs. I'm the type of guy who sees and analyzes everything. After several years I learned what worked, how the good dancers made more money than the average dancers and I learned to recognize the effects of different drug use. I watched quite a few dancers go from $500-$1000 a night to begging to get $100 so they could tip out and get their fix.
In addition to all the money I had given, I decided to give my advice. Whenever I spotted a new dancer, I'd spend some time with her, giving her my advice. "Make eye contact ", "Always end a dance with an extra tease", "Don't drink too much and avoid the drugs. " Just a few examples. I'd show them how to bend the rules without breaking them, or how to break them without getting caught.
It did no good at all. A few would get offended, because there's no way a guy who has been hanging out in strip clubs since before she was born could know more about the business than her, on her first day. Most of the rest pretended to listen, but within 6 months they would be sacked up with some ugly dealer, who made them pay all the bills and give free dances to all his friends.
Time and time again I watched bright, young, clean prospects turn into drugged out, worn out wretches.
Eventually I learned a few things. You can't teach someone who doesn't want to learn and you can't help someone who doesn't want help. On the other hand, there's no need to teach someone who really wants to learn, they'll find the best answers.
Just about every one of the new providers has someone "guiding" them. Usually it's a boyfriend / pimp and he has all the answers. On rare occasions the new provider is introduced through someone who really knows how things work. Those are the few who turn into ATFs.
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Other Websites
[QUOTE=Kyussfan;2860621]What I'm suggesting is an advice thread aimed towards the providers who are new to this industry, and a few seasoned veterans who could use some helpful hints. New providers need helpful hints about timekeeping, cleanliness, personal safety, and all around good business practices. [/QUOTE]I believe the board should stay a monger only playground besides a few respected and established providers in the city. It's great to have insight from a provider on the board once in awhile, but new providers serve no purpose here until they have some time in the hobby under their belt. If a new provider wants to build herself into becoming a fantastic provider like many of my "hobby sisters" here. There's plenty of other sources online where she can find information. Honestly do you guys want a bunch of Leslie's lurking the board?
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Good Idea but
[QUOTE=Kyussfan;2860621]What I'm suggesting is an advice thread aimed towards the providers who are new to this industry. New providers need helpful hints about timekeeping, cleanliness, personal safety, and all around good business practices. They should also be made aware of the ramifications of poor service. (Think Leslie) and the damage it can do to their reputation.[/QUOTE]Most of the newer providers even the good ones from BP are given the choice of listening. Most of the time the advice goes in one ear and out the other. Here is not the place to advise many of the addict, loser BP providers because do we really want them reading this board? It's up to them to choose either their poison or antidotes.
Jordan is an example of someone many have tried to help. She has been given advice and she listens to some of it. It's her choice to use the info provided which includes contacting ladies like Sara.
Chloe, now gone, is another example of a drug free provider from BP who I personally had many discussions with about her ramifications of her poor service. She always listened, but did not follow through with the advice. She was a princess in a business that seldom tolerates princesses.
Leslie was given some advice and even told about this board. She is more interested in getting her next fix than making money to improve her life. By her own words she should be "Drug Free" by now, but she isn't. By the way the "guy" everyone is discussing could be her brother, not her BF, so it's best to not assume what you may not really know. Only a few on this board know the difference between the two.
If a provider who comes from anywhere wants help there are mongers and other providers willing to help if they will listen. Most of this is accomplishes through back channels. So kysssfan I will not tell you to FO because your point is valid but just not logically reasonable. Besides, you can help providers by putting up accurate reviews about the hints above and what was good and bad. Believe me the providers will hear about it through other mongers or the phone doesn't ring anymore. That's why "The Type of Service" is a huge impact on the supply and demand in this business. Besides if they will read the newbie blog and the reviews they will quickly learn, if they have enough sober grey matter to absorb it.