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I realize this isn't the purpose of the forum and I apologize to Mr Jackson ahead of time. I am in search of a good friend to this forum MG (mature gentleman). He has given me and others many reports and referrals in the past. I sent him a shout and it came back as undeliverable. I don't know if he retired or had to change his handle. If he is around or anyone knows of his e-mail or USASG handle please forward it to me. And again I apologize to all of you and Mr Jackson for this post. Thanks SO
Here's a thought. Did you for one minute ever think that some of these girls have families, boyfriends, husbands, children? No, I didn't think so!
What you are putting out there in print is making its way back to the girls and some have decided to fight back. It will be simple. We are slowly starting to figure out who you are, that's right, some of us have brains, can you believe it.
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?
[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]My friend, if you are speaking about today, that was me in the next room.
J. Was just about finished with me when the door chimes and she had to leave to open it for you. I had started out at the gym earlier this morning and that experience left me with an aching back. Jessica does give a great massage.
LE does patrol the street regularly to look for chronic meter violators such as BostonAMP. The tickets are $10. Next time I will park at McD's or Dunkin's up the street.
BTW, I actually went over to WW last night but because of heavy Monger traffic I had to wait: 45. Normally I wouldn't mind taking a nap on the table, but as it happened, I got an emergency message on my cell phone while waiting, so I quietly left; later called J. , who kindly let me return this AM.
Methinks WW is getting too popular. They were sure busy last night and earlier today.[/QUOTE]Lol, Sorry about the interruption. You know I always wondered why the mamasans can't answer the damn door since they aren't busy anyway. The same thing happened to me while I was at FY too.
Hey all,
I thought I would post an old trip I had to Lily massage in Watertown. It was back in November or so.
Short and sweet version. So-so massage with no extra anything, no roam and no finish. It started promising but the girl that started the massage, the one that seemed to point to a thumbs up, swapped out with a different gal and the new girl was all business.
Not sure why they switched but I didn't even get a DIY.
J4f
Hope there are no typo's!
[QUOTE=B Fun]
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]
I am not sure your post was directed at my previous one, but I will respond assuming it was. First, there is no chance "Kelly" was her real name. One thing she did not look was stupid. B Fun, do [i]you[/i] give your real name to some guy you just met?
Second, the purpose of this forum is to provide "consumer report"-style feedback. There is no way to do that without SOME way of identifying the provider -- and that's what "nom de guerre" are for.
And third, if you find my lame pun ("AMP-ly demonstrates her lack of underwear") degrading and insensitive, then you should be in a different line of work. Titillating the man is part of your job. Commenting on the technique is part of this forum's purpose. Other mongers will choose to visit or not visit her based on my feedback -- and in fact one already inquired, which means my "degrading and insensitive" comment just got Kelly more business. Even though [i]I[/i] am not going back to her.
This describes alomost all of us. You forgot your biggest complaint, CHEAP!
"Warn us" I think it will work. We're scared now. We're so scared.... we'll just stay away.
[QUOTE=B Fun]
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]
I had been interested in learning more about a provider in Canton who posts regularly (number ending in 8059.) A quck search of the board revealed only a passing reference or two, saying she was hot, but, at least in one case, it was draped the whole time.
Saw her advertising in RI which got my radar up a bit. Called her and it was in a hotel. She asked "do I need to bring my table or is the bed fine?" Radar up again so I went for it. Quoted $80 for sweedish or $100 for deep tissue.
Arrived, and she is more cute than hot in my opinion. Asian, but I think more of an Asian mix. Young, spinner type. Again, a cute girl.
Massage was pretty good. She claims to be certified. It was decent enough to think that might be true, but not so good that I am convinced. it was undraped the entire time so I was feeling good about what was going to happen.
No teasing at all while face down. Flipped, still undraped, but still no teasing. We're in a hotel in Pawtucket, RI so I figure I have nothing to lose so I outright ask. She says yes, but it is extra. Expected that and was happy by the development.
Now this is where things get just plain silly. She wanted:
$60 extra for a clothed HR with NO touching
$100 extra for a topless HR with NO touching.
$150 for a nude HR with touching (but she was very clear it was just touching up top and)
Said she will do FS for certain people (claims to be picky, but would do so with me) for $300. Yes, $300. Wow, lucky me.
Bottom line...avoid. SHe's one of those that seems to feel she is doing you a favor by offering extras. She seems paranoid, frigid, etc. so even if one was so inclined to spend $380 for FS (shaking my head just thinking about such a ridiculous figure) I have to think it would be about as fun as screwing a blow up doll.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I did opt for the 60 option as I was there and thinking a bit with the little head. Convinved her to take top off but she kept bra on. Wow, again, lucky me. HR was uninspired and mechanical at best.
So I'm out 140 for a decent massage and lacluster HR. I am an experienced and normally level headed hobbiyist and have walked away from many situations so a bit pissed at myself for giving the extra 60, but what can I say, it was late in the day, I had to get home and had no other options.
Write this so anyone else curious like I was chooses to avoid. She thinks far too highly of herself. There are better out there. Better in quality. And better in looks, though she would probably disagree.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=B Fun]Here's a thought. Did you for one minute ever think that some of these girls have families, boyfriends, husbands, children? No, I didn't think so!
What you are putting out there in print is making its way back to the girls and some have decided to fight back. It will be simple. We are slowly starting to figure out who you are, that's right, some of us have brains, can you believe it.
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ? [/QUOTE]Ok, lets try having an open conversation. And make it work for all involved.
A) are some people morons. Yes, simple answer.
B) will people figure out who people are on here yes (and you. A particular american spa who has gotten waaay too much publish lately).
C) I would say that people can give out names or abbreviated names to conceal those that cannot defend themselves. If there is something that was written down that was degrading. Pm those people to edit the information.
D) I would also say that if there is something that would increase your level of service, please by all means help us morons out. On the other hand if you get $60 for a HJ, because you are simply the best. But fail miserably to measure up. Then it is what it is.
There are certain facilities that I no longer visit for certain reasons of my own. A) the owner posts fake positive reports, b) Outlandish tipping requests, c) over population and reports regarding it.
To end it all on a happy note. Keep up the good work! Fight for what you deserve! And when you least expect it you will find a gem.
[QUOTE=B Fun]Here's a thought. Did you for one minute ever think that some of these girls have families, boyfriends, husbands, children? No, I didn't think so!
What you are putting out there in print is making its way back to the girls and some have decided to fight back. It will be simple. We are slowly starting to figure out who you are, that's right, some of us have brains, can you believe it.
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]Here's a thought, if you really are a girl from one of the spa's, how about trying to develop a better working relationship with your customer base instead of ranting over something as trivial as mentioning someone's fake name? We are here to assist one another with reviews of our experiences so others will know where to go and where not to go in order to meet their expectations. Naming a girl is the only way to share our experience, especially with Asian spa's. How else do we describe a girl...she was Asian, short, with black hair...that doesn't narrow it down too much. We do our best to be discreet, but it's a fine line to walk when trying to recommend a place or specific girl, while trying not to spell everything out for the whole world to decipher.
As for personal hygiene, yes, clients should at the very least shower, trim their fingernails and pop a breath mint before arriving at the spa, even if they offer showers at the spa, why go there all funky? Also, subtle behavior will be more rewarding than going right for the goods. If you attempt to jam your finger up a girls ass from the start, that's not cool. Start off slow and work your way into a girl's comfort zone. She'll let you know if you're going too far, and you won't risk turning her off and/or scaring her off from the start.
Providers should be a little more forthcoming too. If early in the session a guy is stroking your leg, yet you have no intention of providing a HE, then be up front about it from the start, don't lead them on by allowing us to touch and then leave us hanging at the end. I understand you need to be cautious about undercover stings, but I've been to spa's that will flirt and allow touching for an entire hour and then offer no options at the end.
Lastly, try to do something about the constant interruptions at these spa's. There is no reason a girl should have to stop in the middle of a massage to answer her cell phone or leave the room to greet another customer. If you are that busy pay someone to handle all calls and walk-ins. Some visits I was interrupted about 5 or 6 times in one hour, to me that's unacceptable.
Most of us appreciate a good massuese, and we are only trying to give her some more business and help her out by recommending others about her, and at the same time we help one another out. We aren't trying to get her in trouble or jam her up in any way. So if you are truly acting in the interest of the girls, how about meeting us halfway and letting us know the do's and don'ts and what YOUR expectations are for a happy and pleasant experience for both parties involved? Let's work with one another, not against...cool?
Read many but still undecided on which RI AMP is the best, also in value.
I'm thinking that 40 for a BJ in an AMP shows good negotiating skills.
[QUOTE=B Fun]
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]
Have you spent any time in the RI Forum? Great source for info. The top spots in my opinion FS Japan Spa, Harmony and Central Health, but have lately seen good reports on One Spa and Diamond. For HJ only, Lily, Pleasant and No. Main St. All of the last 3 also provide a very good massage as well. My personal favorite is Harmony and a provider named Miki. It has been a while so not sure she is still there, but she is very hot and into giving good service. Gina at Pleasant is also very good.
Jack
I am definitely becoming a regular at centennial. Maria knows me so well that she doesn’t even take my hf at the door anymore. I almost forgot to pay her on my way out. So anyway, I went to cent and chose Stacy. I almost didn’t pick her because she has a smile like a broken picket feince, but I'm glad I did. The massage was excellent, better than expected, and the teasing was plentiful. On the flip she asked what I wanted and I said fs, and the show was on. Stacy's body isn't perfect, she could lose a few pounds, her tits are a bit saggy, but her ass is big and juicy which is the kind of ass I like. Stacy was a pleasure to be with, she made the session all about me and what I want. I am an ass man, and boy did I have a whole lot of fun with that ass. I had her cowgirl, and doggy and her "gatito" was surprisingly very tight, given what she does for a living. She let me take my time, so I f'ed her real hard till I was weak in the knees. After I was done she gave me a slow HJ while she cleaned me up.
Like I said Stacy isn't the prettiest girl at centennial but she is definitely worth the ride.
Looks - 6
massage - 8
extras - 10
damage - 60 hf, 100 tip
[QUOTE=Wetseeker]Stressed out won't tell you, but I will point out some of your mistakes.
Even the most experience mongers won't do what you did. It sounds like you were listening to that old joke where a guy asks a woman to sleep with him for $1,000. She says yes and then he turns around and says how about 100. She says she is not that kind of woman, he in turn replies well we know what you are that has been established, we are just negotiating a price.
First of all, this was your first time to the place. Second, another monger reviewed and said nothing was available! He probably tried, but that should be a hint that you may run into the same problem. Some providers may wait a time or two before offering anything. Trust sometimes has to be developed. She does not know you from Adam. As far she knows you could be 1-Adam-12 aka LEO. You blatantly implied sex for money right off the bat. Very few providers will bite at that unless they are a crack-head jonesin' for their next hit. If she said NO for 100 she is not going to say yes for 200, 300 or 400. It makes you look like an ass and reinforces that you don't know schitt and you could be a cop on his first under cover assignment. If she does do something she will take the money and condom and say thank you and that is it. She might ask you what you want later.
At a new place you need to be subtle. When you change, there is usually a table where you can empty out your pockets, like keys and cell phones. If you want, you can put a three or four Jacksons in the fold of your cell phone or something or just leave a couple of Jacksons straight out on the table. If she asks what it is four, just say that is tip money. Don't say anything else about extras. If she says that doesn't look like much of a tip, BINGO, then you can say that you have more and that is where the negotiation starts. Let her initiate it though. If she doesn't say anything right away, just go by her response to some of your actions.
To figure out if you are getting warm (how many times have I said this), when she is at the head of the massage table doing your shoulders reach around and run your hands GENTLY, up and down her legs and ass. Sometimes they may go to the top early and you may not feel comfortable right off. I have had other ladies just work from the sides only. When they got near the top around my shoulders, I would let my arm dangle out and start going up and down their thigh. If you get no resistance, you most likely will get a happy ending. If they resist or tense up, forget about it. When you flip, you have more freedom with your arm and you can work on their ass if it is in reach or comes in reach. If I get no resistance to the ass then I go under the shirt. That is when the fun starts.
There are a couple of providers that I have seen for a while. We are comfortable enough to with each other that I usually put the tip out right next to the massage oil, before the massage starts. No need to say a word. Most of the time they will acknowledge it and say thank you. Nothing beats the sound, while your are still on your stomach, of a bra coming off and pants sliding down; then when you flip your provider is buck naked standing next to you, for you to take in.
In summary, you screwed up. A newbie mistake. However, your name and face is Mudd if you ever go back there and try to use that provider. We have all made mistakes the first few times. Just try not to be so stupid next time.
wet[/QUOTE]
I laughed when I read this. How true. I got the Numbskull Award a few weeks back when I asked for a half hour since I was in a rush. I forgot that our Asian friends don't care for that approach. I've done this a few times over the years and it always results in a poor experince even from established providers. Not a newbie but still made a newbie mistake.
Excellent post, Vintage! I am really getting tired of these interruptions, even at the best places. What's worse, you know very well that the time taken out of the room to answer the phones, chat with Mamasan and answer the door for the next Monger is not added back in to the time remaining in a session. In other words, interruptions are irritating, and we the customers are paying for them!
[QUOTE=vintage68]Lastly, try to do something about the constant interruptions at these spa's. There is no reason a girl should have to stop in the middle of a massage to answer her cell phone or leave the room to greet another customer. If you are that busy pay someone to handle all calls and walk-ins. Some visits I was interrupted about 5 or 6 times in one hour, to me that's unacceptable.[/QUOTE]