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[QUOTE=SwimSays;7226824]Some more details coming out:
[URL]https://nypost.com/2025/03/14/us-news/alleged-customers-at-high-end-brothel-serving-politicians-military-officials-unmasked-in-court-as-salacious-details-of-encounters-revealed/[/URL][/QUOTE]What a joke. I don't even see those type of high details in criminal cases. A lot of careers will be destroyed over this and some of these guys are young.
Do we know for a fact that those caught used their real phone numbers (I. E. Phone numbers that could easily be traced back to them through a paid phone plan)? I've been reading up on several articles and haven't really seen that specific detail.
I think its pretty likely that they did, but curious if you can point out where that detail is mentioned.
[QUOTE=Hyperion11;7226524]Some interesting takeaways. Looks like cops focused on customers with more than 400 messages exchanged with the agency. All accused used real phone numbers, so the cops found them in their database easily, then pulled their RMV picture and compared it with the surveillance videos. I don't know if it was too much work going after the VOIP numbers or it's just a coincidence, but these guys really made it easy to be found. Each case is purely based on the text messages; it remains to be seen how this will play out in court and whether a judge will consider this as enough evidence.
That being said, it was a freaking farce and a sham. The clerk magistrate was clearly decided to approve all criminal charges and nothing said or done mattered to her. Hours and hours of police work, court time, and for what? The only two dudes that showed up in person were the opposite of "influence and power". And don't get me started on the idiots protesting outside the courthouse.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7226905]Do we know for a fact that those caught used their real phone numbers (I. E. Phone numbers that could easily be traced back to them through a paid phone plan)? I've been reading up on several articles and haven't really seen that specific detail.
I think its pretty likely that they did, but curious if you can point out where that detail is mentioned.[/QUOTE]It's in the recordings, you have to watch them. The usual police complaint is that they identified number ending in 'abcd', then they searched it in their database and found it belonging to individual X. Most of the time they also say the same phone number was used when X applied for a passport a number of years ago. In one case the number was linked to the suspect's father, as it looks like he was still on a family plan. That'd be funny, if it wasn't this entire shit show.
Got it, thanks for doing the legwork.
[QUOTE=Hyperion11;7226918]It's in the recordings, you have to watch them. The usual police complaint is that they identified number ending in 'abcd', then they searched it in their database and found it belonging to individual X. Most of the time they also say the same phone number was used when X applied for a passport a number of years ago. In one case the number was linked to the suspect's father, as it looks like he was still on a family plan. That'd be funny, if it wasn't this entire shit show.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7226905]Do we know for a fact that those caught used their real phone numbers (I. E. Phone numbers that could easily be traced back to them through a paid phone plan)? I've been reading up on several articles and haven't really seen that specific detail.
I think its pretty likely that they did, but curious if you can point out where that detail is mentioned.[/QUOTE]They probably gave their full names and IDs like the article says. Wild that people do that.
"And the johns were rigorously vetted before they were allowed to book an appointment, including being required to provide their full names, emails, phone numbers, employer and references, the feds claimed."
Why don't you give them your SSN while you are at it? Lmao just trying to get pussy here, not apply for a mortgage.
That being said, if the "politicians, corporate execs, military officials" don't get called to the stand here in the next few weeks... I hope this entire thing backfires on the state in a public relations way. It probably won't considering our puritan society, but it should because if they just out the commoners who used this service and not the high profile people, it will be seen (and they probably are) protecting the higher class folk. What a waste of state resources.
[QUOTE=Andir;7226787]Still trying to figure out who of them is "elite".[/QUOTE]I'm sure there are a lot of people they didn't name, especially the "elite" that you're talking about. The ones that had to be exposed either didn't care or didn't have the money to fight it. Then again, Bob Kraft couldn't get away from the exposure, just for a handjob.
Regardless of age and how the charges will be added to their records, will effect them for the rest of their lives. One of them worked at one of the top hospitals and can guarantee he isn't going to be allowed to see female patients or even a job in that industry at all.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist420;7227060]"And the johns were rigorously vetted before they were allowed to book an appointment, including being required to provide their full names, emails, phone numbers, employer and references, the feds claimed."
Why don't you give them your SSN while you are at it? Lmao just trying to get pussy here, not apply for a mortgage.
That being said, if the "politicians, corporate execs, military officials" don't get called to the stand here in the next few weeks... I hope this entire thing backfires on the state in a public relations way. It probably won't considering our puritan society, but it should because if they just out the commoners who used this service and not the high profile people, it will be seen (and they probably are) protecting the higher class folk. What a waste of state resources.[/QUOTE]One dude is kind of corporate executive, leading a drug developing company in the field of oncology. Well, if his company is successful, give him all the hoes he wants for free!
[QUOTE=SwimSays;7226824]Some more details coming out:
[URL]https://nypost.com/2025/03/14/us-news/alleged-customers-at-high-end-brothel-serving-politicians-military-officials-unmasked-in-court-as-salacious-details-of-encounters-revealed/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's funny. They list all the purported VIP clients and specify that there was even a radiologist among them! Imagine that? That's like nailing the Secretary of State or something.
[QUOTE=BboyHeyMan;7226690]The hearings and articles are flaring me up for some reason. Since the next two hearings are Mar 21 and Mar 28 would we have been notified by now if we were summoned? What is the likelihood there will be another wave of charges for more clients?[/QUOTE]All the summons went out in December / January 2024. I believe they were delivered certified mail so you would've had to sign for it or a notice would be posted on your door about the mail.
As for any more charges. I can't see how they'd find any of this worth their time. The media sensationalized this into some high profile sting, now everyone's realizing these are just normal every day people. Sinking more hours into that investigation to charge a bunch of nobodies with misdemeanors would be beyond stupid.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;7227106]That's funny. They list all the purported VIP clients and specify that there was even a radiologist among them! Imagine that? That's like nailing the Secretary of State or something.[/QUOTE]And the Epstein list is still hush. Wonder why?
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;7227106]That's funny. They list all the purported VIP clients and specify that there was even a radiologist among them! Imagine that? That's like nailing the Secretary of State or something.[/QUOTE]And the radiologist dude is even not a doctor. He is a technician!
I'm sure a few of you have done this but I'm curious about traveling with a provider. Good idea or bad idea? Worth it or not? A few years ago I had one provider ask me if I wanted to travel with her. (Full disclosure, I never saw her professionally. We had a platonic non pay relationship. We hung out several times, dinner, lunch, shopping, discussing the business etc.) We ended up having a falling out so it never happened but I'm wondering what it would have been like if we had. There are a few that I have been with that I've considered asking. Two are currently active and the others have now retired or moved away so I missed my chance. Do you pay them for the entire time? Do you just pay for their trip? Or what? The trip I am thinking about would be to another country so they'd need a passport.
[QUOTE=JackADogov;7227495]I'm sure a few of you have done this but I'm curious about traveling with a provider. Good idea or bad idea? Worth it or not? A few years ago I had one provider ask me if I wanted to travel with her. (Full disclosure, I never saw her professionally. We had a platonic non pay relationship. We hung out several times, dinner, lunch, shopping, discussing the business etc.) We ended up having a falling out so it never happened but I'm wondering what it would have been like if we had. There are a few that I have been with that I've considered asking. Two are currently active and the others have now retired or moved away so I missed my chance. Do you pay them for the entire time? Do you just pay for their trip? Or what? The trip I am thinking about would be to another country so they'd need a passport.[/QUOTE]Honestly taking a provider out of the country for your first vacation together is a bad idea and opens you up to potentially a ton of B. S. I'd start with an overnight or a weekend away somewhere drivable and work your way up from there once you know you guys are compatible in more ways than just between the sheets.
[QUOTE=SwimSays;7227636]Honestly taking a provider out of the country for your first vacation together is a bad idea and opens you up to potentially a ton of B. S. I'd start with an overnight or a weekend away somewhere drivable and work your way up from there once you know you guys are compatible in more ways than just between the sheets.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Your points are valid and you're 100% right about the potential B. S. involved going out of the country. I like the idea of an overnight first before anything else.