Korean Agency BB

[QUOTE=TheAbc;6432042]I'm looking at this at the other side of this equation. I've done this long enough that it's been there done that and it's a shell of what it used to be for me. Ater visit number 100+ or whatever I'm at, I leave the session feeling empty and wanting more. Part of me thinks that I'm missing the thrill of the chase of a normal person and more importantly, having a girl who is at least attracted to me instead of feigning interest and attraction because she has to put up an act as part of her 1 hour obligation. I'm not saying it's all good to on the dating side, I know it has its issues but I'd like to give it a shot since seeing garden tools is getting old.[/QUOTE]Makes perfect sense if that's where you're at with the hobbying scene. I'm extremely selective when it comes to dating a civvie, so unless I happen to meet one who really strikes my fancy, I'm just not interested enough in the whole cat and mouse routine it usually takes to establish a relationship with a chick. I don't overdue it with seeing providers so I rarely if ever get burned out or bored with it.

[QUOTE=TheAbc;6432042] I'm looking at this at the other side of this equation. I've done this long enough that it's been there and it's a shell of what it used to be for me. After visiting number 100+ or whatever I'm at, I leave the session feeling empty and wanting more. Part of me thinks that I'm missing the thrill of the chase of a normal person and more importantly, having a girl who is at least attracted to me instead of feigning interest and attraction because she has to put up an act as part of her 1 hour obligation. I'm not saying it's all good on the dating side, I know it has its issues but I'd like to give it a shot since seeing garden tools is getting old. [/QUOTE]Trust me that there is a thrill in dating civilians. It is a good feeling to know that you are not one of the ten guys during the one day who just CIP her and there is a sincerity behind a civilian smile when she is spending time with you.

It is smart plan to transition into civilian dating life and once in a while to hit a "Cum and Run" with a K-girl for fun.

[QUOTE=JoseMan;6431826]You brought up three good points.

Point#1: I am sorry that I brought up the marriage part but I think we can agree that 80% of the girls are looking to marry someone rather than being on standby girlfriend.

Point#2 : You wrote that "A good date usually will pay for your dinners occasionally too so there is a good reciprocation that reveals the character of who you are with. " Yes. It will show class, commitment and also a level of care on behalf of your girl friend.

Point#3: "At $500 I'll be out, just because I respect myself too much and don't want to be an idiot. But that's just me. " I am with you 1000%.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheAbc;6432042]I'm looking at this at the other side of this equation. I've done this long enough that it's been there done that and it's a shell of what it used to be for me. Ater visit number 100+ or whatever I'm at, I leave the session feeling empty and wanting more. Part of me thinks that I'm missing the thrill of the chase of a normal person and more importantly, having a girl who is at least attracted to me instead of feigning interest and attraction because she has to put up an act as part of her 1 hour obligation. I'm not saying it's all good to on the dating side, I know it has its issues but I'd like to give it a shot since seeing garden tools is getting old.[/QUOTE]Good information guys. I love you!

I also respect all the Korean providers and their smile service which we all adore. I can just want to add that I play both sides. But we should love ourselves more, meaning, Love Yourself. Money is shit, and then we die.

Temptation is a fools game unless you have a strategy. Buy your own benzo.

Fuck me!

[QUOTE=Kayo4;6430235]You don't have to speak Japanese fluently to get BB in Japan but yeah it's UTR. I have never asked directly, it just happens. It's all up to the girl and if she likes you. The first time I went bare with a girl in Tokyo was my second visit to one of the higher end soaps in Yoshiwara. The first time they only gave me a choice of two gaijin friendly girls, but I got a bigger selection of girls this time since I was repeating and the girl I chose was surprisingly the one from her photo, hot as fuck and dressed to the nines. The only Japanese I knew was hi and a polite honorific, which I stammered looking at her beauty, and she replied with the same honorific, giggled and started the instant blowjob right there. Then after taking off her evening gown and laying down spreading her legs, I just stood there with my hard on waiting for her to put the cover on. After a moment, she just smiled, grabbed my cock and pulled me in. It was my first CIP in this hobby. One of those moments and girls you remember forever haha.

I've had luck getting bare with two deriheru girls in my two visits to Japan after it reopened from COVID. Both spoke pretty good English, and it happened naturally in the initial DFK / groping phase. I guess the girls were feeling it. One told me after BBFSCIP that it definitely wasn't her style to do that, then proceeded to BBBJ and then let me give her a facial for the 2nd round.

It's the same story in the rest of Asia (Korea, Vietnam.). Or course some girls are a straight no and will jump off if your bare cock comes any near her love hole. Some girls will let you on a 2nd, 3rd visit. Macau and HK are now open. I probably should visit the old haunts there for some legit hot Chinese girls if I get a chance fly over again this year. Damn, I miss Asia.[/QUOTE]So I follow a tiktok channel called "cabatok". The girls in the videos are gorgeous but I can't really figure out what they really do. Are they Jav actresses, KTV girls, escorts, or Japanese social influencers?

[QUOTE=SuperMan333;6432187]So I follow a tiktok channel called "cabatok". The girls in the videos are gorgeous but I can't really figure out what they really do. Are they Jav actresses, KTV girls, escorts, or Japanese social influencers?[/QUOTE]It's a tiktok account used to bring business / exposure to cabaret girls, kabajō, or [URL=google.com]キャバ嬢[/URL]. Just google it. Very similar to Korean karaoke helper girls but more YMMV.

[QUOTE=TheWhiteDenzel;6431836]Relationships, for me, are overrated and almost always an inevitable bore and or pain in the ass. Who needs to see the same fucking person almost daily and have to either conceal things from them or let them know where you are and who you're with and what you're doing etc.? Not me, that's for damn sure. All the energy and little mind games and being on your best behavior and often simping etc., that most guys go through in those initial stages of dating. No thanks. I relish my personal freedom and independence far too much to have to compromise it for some chick. I love the directness of hobbying. Text a booker, take a drive and boom, you're behind closed doors being intimate with a woman whose job is to please you. After you've gotten that itch scratched and, if you're lucky, engaged in a bit of affection and enjoyable verbal interaction, you're out the door and back to your life, with no female to report to. I'm very secure in my looks and ability to snag a quality woman if I chose to put the energy (and finances, as either way you're going to pay) into it, but I've found that hobbying just makes me a happier less stressed man. To each their own of course.[/QUOTE]Can't agree with you more. Love being independent and free, no girl to to answer too and most important being able to screw different girls at anytime. Fled out to HK in TJ screwed 2 HOT Latinas and came back home to Vegas to screw a KGirl. Why go through the relationship bore where itll eventually go down hill somewhere down the road.

[QUOTE=TheWhiteDenzel;6431836]Relationships, for me, are overrated and almost always an inevitable bore and or pain in the ass. Who needs to see the same fucking person almost daily and have to either conceal things from them or let them know where you are and who you're with and what you're doing etc.? Not me, that's for damn sure. All the energy and little mind games and being on your best behavior and often simping etc., that most guys go through in those initial stages of dating. No thanks. I relish my personal freedom and independence far too much to have to compromise it for some chick. I love the directness of hobbying. Text a booker, take a drive and boom, you're behind closed doors being intimate with a woman whose job is to please you. After you've gotten that itch scratched and, if you're lucky, engaged in a bit of affection and enjoyable verbal interaction, you're out the door and back to your life, with no female to report to. I'm very secure in my looks and ability to snag a quality woman if I chose to put the energy (and finances, as either way you're going to pay) into it, but I've found that hobbying just makes me a happier less stressed man. To each their own of course.[/QUOTE]We all enter this hobby for various reasons and hopefully it fulfills what we are seeking from it. Your take on relationships is darker and more cynical than most but if this hobby is works for you, then that's all that matters. I do, however, want to say that if you have to conceal things and play mind games during the beginning phases of dating then there might be more at play. From my experience, it's usually the middle to late stages where you both have a better understanding of each other and you reach the point of how serious you want to be where things either fall apart or develop into a more long term commitment.

[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6432311] We all enter this hobby for various reasons and hopefully it fulfills what we are seeking from it. Your take on relationships is darker and more cynical than most but if this hobby is works for you, then that's all that matters. I do, however, want to say that if you have to conceal things and play mind games during the beginning phases of dating then there might be more at play. From my experience, it's usually the middle to late stages where you both have a better understanding of each other and you reach the point of how serious you want to be where things either fall apart or develop into a more long term commitment. [/QUOTE]If you want have a relationship, get a Latina woman or Vietnamese woman and if you want cream pie a woman, go to K-girls. Huge majority of Korean women are voided of any true emotions. K-girls are built to have sex without any emotions; it is fairly amazing on what they can do. Just do 1/2 hour with them, cum and run.

[QUOTE=SuperMan333;6432187]So I follow a tiktok channel called "cabatok". The girls in the videos are gorgeous but I can't really figure out what they really do. Are they Jav actresses, KTV girls, escorts, or Japanese social influencers?[/QUOTE]They seem like hostess girls to me. You see their ads everywhere in Shibuya and Shinjuku / Kabukicho. Mainly for business meetings or the lonely business man after a long day of work. Pay for the company of a young, gorgeous girl to drink with and YMMV on anything more. Culturally, pretty much the modern day version of a geisha. Not my style (plus almost 100% need to speak Japanese) and heard horror stories of girls racking up high bills for the uninformed. Always touts outside trying to lure guys in. I'd rather try my luck with a civvie. I see the well dressed hotties in the streets and metro in Tokyo and wonder if they are just coming home from their corporate job or on their way to work one those clubs. Some girls do both; legit career by day and do the side gig at night. There are so many layers within the scene in JPN there's something for everyone. Too bad most are not foreigner friendly / require Japanese. Sometimes if you have a Japanese friend, it opens the door. It's a straight no go to foreigners for many places, but on my own, I've been able to crack some through effort / research and using the right manners. I've had great experiences even with the limitations.

[QUOTE=TheWhiteDenzel;6431836]Relationships, for me, are overrated and almost always an inevitable bore and or pain in the ass. Who needs to see the same fucking person almost daily and have to either conceal things from them or let them know where you are and who you're with and what you're doing etc.? Not me, that's for damn sure. All the energy and little mind games and being on your best behavior and often simping etc., that most guys go through in those initial stages of dating. No thanks. I relish my personal freedom and independence far too much to have to compromise it for some chick. I love the directness of hobbying. Text a booker, take a drive and boom, you're behind closed doors being intimate with a woman whose job is to please you. After you've gotten that itch scratched and, if you're lucky, engaged in a bit of affection and enjoyable verbal interaction, you're out the door and back to your life, with no female to report to. I'm very secure in my looks and ability to snag a quality woman if I chose to put the energy (and finances, as either way you're going to pay) into it, but I've found that hobbying just makes me a happier less stressed man. To each their own of course.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheAbc;6432042]I'm looking at this at the other side of this equation. I've done this long enough that it's been there done that and it's a shell of what it used to be for me. Ater visit number 100+ or whatever I'm at, I leave the session feeling empty and wanting more. Part of me thinks that I'm missing the thrill of the chase of a normal person and more importantly, having a girl who is at least attracted to me instead of feigning interest and attraction because she has to put up an act as part of her 1 hour obligation. I'm not saying it's all good to on the dating side, I know it has its issues but I'd like to give it a shot since seeing garden tools is getting old.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6432311]We all enter this hobby for various reasons and hopefully it fulfills what we are seeking from it. Your take on relationships is darker and more cynical than most but if this hobby is works for you, then that's all that matters. I do, however, want to say that if you have to conceal things and play mind games during the beginning phases of dating then there might be more at play. From my experience, it's usually the middle to late stages where you both have a better understanding of each other and you reach the point of how serious you want to be where things either fall apart or develop into a more long term commitment.[/QUOTE]Even in this hobby as it is with a normal relationship, if you click with a girl and she checks all you boxes, seeing others girls isn't quite the same, so I get what Abc is saying. BC is right in that everyone does this for their own reasons, and if you're not feeling it your probably have to take a step back. I'm kinda figuring that out now since most of my rotation for the last nine months is gone and none of the new girls I've tried, even though they were fun, hasn't given me quite the same vibe. Probably need a break to recalibrate.

[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6432311]We all enter this hobby for various reasons and hopefully it fulfills what we are seeking from it. Your take on relationships is darker and more cynical than most but if this hobby is works for you, then that's all that matters. I do, however, want to say that if you have to conceal things and play mind games during the beginning phases of dating then there might be more at play. From my experience, it's usually the middle to late stages where you both have a better understanding of each other and you reach the point of how serious you want to be where things either fall apart or develop into a more long term commitment.[/QUOTE]I didn't say the possibility of concealing things happens in the initial phase of dating. I said it often arises after you've seen the same woman day in and day out. It's either that or regularly letting her know your whereabouts and things of that nature. The mind games I referred to in the beginning stages of dating was just a way to allude to all the "saying the right things", trying to figure out if she really digs you (or if you dig her), trying to impress her, often pretending to be interested in whatever she's yapping about etc. We men often engage in when attempting to woo a woman. I just don't need a woman in my life on a regular basis to give the energy to all that.

[QUOTE=Kayo4;6432336]They seem like hostess girls to me. You see their ads everywhere in Shibuya and Shinjuku / Kabukicho. Mainly for business meetings or the lonely business man after a long day of work. Pay for the company of a young, gorgeous girl to drink with and YMMV on anything more. Culturally, pretty much the modern day version of a geisha. Not my style (plus almost 100% need to speak Japanese) and heard horror stories of girls racking up high bills for the uninformed. Always touts outside trying to lure guys in. I'd rather try my luck with a civvie. I see the well dressed hotties in the streets and metro in Tokyo and wonder if they are just coming home from their corporate job or on their way to work one those clubs. Some girls do both; legit career by day and do the side gig at night. There are so many layers within the scene in JPN there's something for everyone. Too bad most are not foreigner friendly / require Japanese. Sometimes if you have a Japanese friend, it opens the door. It's a straight no go to foreigners for many places, but on my own, I've been able to crack some through effort / research and using the right manners. I've had great experiences even with the limitations.[/QUOTE]Tokyo has tons of smoke shows when you walk throughout the day. You'll never see this concentration of well put, good looking women in LA. For all the people I know personally who has gone to Japan, none has ever told me of the opportunities that you might have there if you figure it out. Everyone just does the usual sight seeing stuff but never tell me about the women. I'm working on getting my bankroll and trying to be semi conversational to see where it takes me on my next trip there.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNdJFesjY0Y[/URL]

Check out the beginning of this documentary, a bunch of johns get busted in the bay area trying to hookup with hookers. One guy even asks for no condom fucking over the phone.

They're all out of shape and just looking to get their rocks off. Gives you an idea of what kgirls go through.

One dude is so panicked talking to the police hahaha.

[QUOTE=Kayo4;6432339]Even in this hobby as it is with a normal relationship, if you click with a girl and she checks all you boxes, seeing others girls isn't quite the same, so I get what Abc is saying. BC is right in that everyone does this for their own reasons, and if you're not feeling it your probably have to take a step back. I'm kinda figuring that out now since most of my rotation for the last nine months is gone and none of the new girls I've tried, even though they were fun, hasn't given me quite the same vibe. Probably need a break to recalibrate.[/QUOTE]Lately on how it's been for me is like this. Sometimes I see a girl for the first time and she's a dud, I never go back. The ones that I think I'll click with, I'll try a 2nd or 3rd time. After those post first visits, the girl just declines and the service goes down hill because they get lax and do less. It's a negative vicious cycle I hate experiencing. Maybe I'm quite particular and really need specific boxes to check for me to really like someone. One thing that I loved with a girl I clicked with was the positive attitude I got every time I saw her, easy going, and let me try what I wanted without any attitude. Most other girls I saw usually had something missing that I wanted out of a session as they loved to stick to vanilla acts or their routine. The things I wanted weren't crazy or harmful, maybe just out of the ordinary so I don't think I was out of the realms of asking.

Seems like Miso is still out of town, any girls who have similar body type? Miss fucking that small and tight body of Miso's. Sub 5'0 less than 100 lbs with a/b cups