Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Patriarchist;4963954]When messaging a POT for PPM, this is my preferred method to get digits / off-site as fast as possible.

Let me first start by saying I do not bother with most girls that select "life of luxury" in their profile. That most likely means they want an allowance or want to be wined and dined.

1. Start with a Greeting. Keep it simple. Just ask how they are doing.

2. Ask if they are interested in something casual. If she says no, it saves time and you can move onto the next one. If she says yes or asks for further details, then:

3. Ask for some way to communicate with them off the website. Make it clear that you will be texting though, and not calling, as this could be seen as an invasion of privacy. Do not mention PPM at all until you get offsite or else your account could get flagged.

4. Once you get them offline, ask if they will do PPM; explain what it means if they've never heard of it. At this point, the girl will most likely say yes as they've already indicated they are interested in a casual arrangement. However she may want to meet first for an M&G so it's up to you if you want to invest that kind of time and energy on the POT.

This four step approach has greatly streamlined things for me while using SA. I hope it can be useful to you all too.[/QUOTE]Our methods are very similar. I do hold out a carrot that I am looking to do an allowance if we have chemistry. I use kik or talktone app although with both the messages are sometimes delayed. If the pictures are professional I never send them a message. (They are either high end call girl or looking for money up front. Three years ago you could get a 25-30 single mom for ppm for 200. Now they are asking for 500, with 8 pics in the profile and not one below the breasts. You know that means they are shaped like a Christmas tree!

[QUOTE=Patriarchist;4963954]When messaging a POT for PPM, this is my preferred method to get digits / off-site as fast as possible.

Let me first start by saying I do not bother with most girls that select "life of luxury" in their profile. That most likely means they want an allowance or want to be wined and dined.

1. Start with a Greeting. Keep it simple. Just ask how they are doing.

2. Ask if they are interested in something casual. If she says no, it saves time and you can move onto the next one. If she says yes or asks for further details, then:

3. Ask for some way to communicate with them off the website. Make it clear that you will be texting though, and not calling, as this could be seen as an invasion of privacy. Do not mention PPM at all until you get offsite or else your account could get flagged.

4. Once you get them offline, ask if they will do PPM; explain what it means if they've never heard of it. At this point, the girl will most likely say yes as they've already indicated they are interested in a casual arrangement. However she may want to meet first for an M&G so it's up to you if you want to invest that kind of time and energy on the POT.

This four step approach has greatly streamlined things for me while using SA. I hope it can be useful to you all too.[/QUOTE]I also tend to ignore girls with "life of luxury" selected. As well as girls with photos showing designer bags, expensive cars, and boats. There's also the obvious ones who state they want to go shopping or they're looking for money.

I would not ask a girl if she will do PPM. It's no different than asking if she's a ho. Regardless of what WE think about them, all that matters is what the girls think about themselves and how they view their activity on SA. Unless they're a pro or semi-pro, they don't think of themselves as professional ho's, and asking if they do PPM could be a deal breaker. I originally took that approach and had girls tell me they're not prostitutes, goodbye. Many girls, especially the younger ones, think hey I'm having sex anyway why not get some extra money for it. I've had good success asking what they want for the arrangement rather than asking about PPM directly. Subtle difference on the surface but totally different in the girls' minds. Sometimes they reply with an answer having nothing to do with money. I reply back that I'm asking about the benefit they desire which usually triggers them to focus on the financial aspect. Makes all the difference in the mind of the girl.

Some girls don't want to per-negotiate, they prefer a meet & greet to discuss the arrangement face to face. They want to see who they're doing to determine the level of pain and what they want for it.

[QUOTE=HounDog3;4964188]I also tend to ignore girls with "life of luxury" selected. As well as girls with photos showing designer bags, expensive cars, and boats. There's also the obvious ones who state they want to go shopping or they're looking for money.

I would not ask a girl if she will do PPM. It's no different than asking if she's a ho. Regardless of what WE think about them, all that matters is what the girls think about themselves and how they view their activity on SA. Unless they're a pro or semi-pro, they don't think of themselves as professional ho's, and asking if they do PPM could be a deal breaker. I originally took that approach and had girls tell me they're not prostitutes, goodbye. Many girls, especially the younger ones, think hey I'm having sex anyway why not get some extra money for it. I've had good success asking what they want for the arrangement rather than asking about PPM directly. Subtle difference on the surface but totally different in the girls' minds. Sometimes they reply with an answer having nothing to do with money. I reply back that I'm asking about the benefit they desire which usually triggers them to focus on the financial aspect. Makes all the difference in the mind of the girl.

Some girls don't want to per-negotiate, they prefer a meet & greet to discuss the arrangement face to face. They want to see who they're doing to determine the level of pain and what they want for it.[/QUOTE]I always mention the term "casual" because at that point I am already treating them like a prostitute! They know what the website is about: time for money. That is why IMO it is easy to just ask about a ppm-style arrangement after asking about a causal relation. I have found in most cases they will be wiling to agree to it after going to text especially since my pic is verified. Like you say, otherwise it will lead to a lot of M&Gs, and for me, I don't have that kind of time, nor do I want to "talk" with some woman without anything in return, without the promise of meeting a second time, or if details had not been discussed, then without even knowing if her tentative terms for the arrangement would be acceptable to me.

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[QUOTE=JakeRabbit;4965604]Woo hoo! Saving 25% off Premium through Friday gents.

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[QUOTE=DougF;4965348]Can you use an e-gift vanilla visa to pay subscription or do you need the physical card?[/QUOTE]Yes. I have done it.

[QUOTE=Style20;4951322]Well its a free forum and I like to take note just in case one day I want to try.

No offense taking though. I just wish KingOfFours would teach his method on how to get SA free though.[/QUOTE]That you haven't figured it out yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6076945d-af0a-4201-a032-864ba86cc488[/URL]

$150 a week. TO TEXT MESSAGE you as much as I wanted.

This totally takes the cake for the most fucked up girl on the site.

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;4966258][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6076945d-af0a-4201-a032-864ba86cc488[/URL]

$150 a week. TO TEXT MESSAGE you as much as I wanted.

This totally takes the cake for the most fucked up girl on the site.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you're not aware the pro's have pretty much set $200/20 minutes as the standard rate for Skype / FaceTime / Snapchat erotic online sessions. You see it in most of the Boston ads on the oThER site. Didn't check other cities listings but no reason to believe they're any different. I'm in no way defending it. I would NEVER buy an online session. By comparison though $150 for a week is a bargain if she'll go from text to live video. Maybe she's not so fucked up as you believe. Just saying relative to professional escorts.

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;4966258][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6076945d-af0a-4201-a032-864ba86cc488[/URL]

$150 a week. TO TEXT MESSAGE you as much as I wanted.

This totally takes the cake for the most fucked up girl on the site.[/QUOTE]Of course, "I am not looking to meet until I get to know you better" in a profile is a dead giveaway. I never message those girls.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4880cbbd-6f42-4ca2-a5bc-9ea582c0599a[/URL]

Anyone meet this one. Open to pretty much anything but anal. I think she's the desperate type. Quoted me 60 for a car date and a little more for me to take her home. BBFS too.

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;4967384][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4880cbbd-6f42-4ca2-a5bc-9ea582c0599a[/URL]

Anyone meet this one. Open to pretty much anything but anal. I think she's the desperate type. Quoted me 60 for a car date and a little more for me to take her home. BBFS too.[/QUOTE]Surprise she quoted me $25 for videos and 15 $ for nudes. No mention of real meet up at all.

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;4967384][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4880cbbd-6f42-4ca2-a5bc-9ea582c0599a[/URL]

Anyone meet this one. Open to pretty much anything but anal. I think she's the desperate type. Quoted me 60 for a car date and a little more for me to take her home. BBFS too.[/QUOTE]At 60 I'm assuming she is a SW that has discovered SA. Not mush to go one with her pic but how bad can it be for that price LOL?