NDS/King (and Milk) Noobie Protocol
[QUOTE=JakeIsThe1;5326461]So I'm pretty new to AMPs and I've only been to a couple that are local to me and only got a he at 2 of them that was just a HJ but I'm planning on making the drive out to Nds to get a mostly guaranteed FS. Everyone's been saying $$ 4 45 and I'm just tryina figure out how it works there. Are why'all paying the house fee and then tipping the rest to her or are you paying in full up front and getting the FS and considering the the $$ upfront cost as the tip included and not giving her anything else. (that's kinda what I'm picking up not sure though) I'm sure that it's somewhere buried in the forms but I went back a ton of pages and couldn't find it so any advice on what to do at nds so I don't seem like a total idiot and give out more than I needed to. Ngl as stupid as it seems I'd really appreciate a quick breakdown from someone who regulars there on how it goes down start to end.[/QUOTE]I'll offer to elaborate on what Nudeed summed up a couple of posts below, as I am ALSO one who abhors uncertainty and ambiguity in these transactions. Even at my ripened old age after 41 years of hobbying, I MUCH prefer to know as much as I can about a place BEFORE I walk in. This includes the pricing, the customary transaction process, any red-flags to avoid, and what to expect with the session (i.e. are Table Showers available, are they offered before or after service, or any "key words or phrases" that may be helpful, etc.). So what follows is intended as a Noobie Primer to benefit all the new guys that are probably wondering the same things.
So, at New Day Spa (on Sandlake Road directly across from the Chili's restaurant adjacent to the Florida Mall complex), you will be greeted by the girl that will provide your service (UNLESS you ask for someone else). NDS does NOT employ a mamasan or manager, so you MAY get away with lying about having been there before, BUT DON'T DO IT. If asked if you've been there before, say exactly this: "I've been going to Milk Spa, but a buddy told me I might like this place better." This response is both unverifiable AND it offers your girl the opportunity to provide you with extra-mind-blowing service in an attempt to win your repeat business permanently, while also conveying that you're somewhat experienced in the art of AMP engagements (whether you are or not).
You may see an 8. 5"x11" laminated placard in the lobby with a price breakdown for 60/45/30 minutes, but don't dwell on that. For your first time there, you want the full hour experience, which is $80. Your attendant probably won't ask for that "house fee" until she's led you to the massage room and asks you how long you want to stay. There are two ways to go at this point:
#1: You say one hour and she asks for the house fee, which you hand her at that point ($80). Upon entering the massage room is also where they'll do the perfunctory "LE Check" which may include a hug, kiss, or embrace. When this occurs, it is imperative that you respond with return hug, kiss, embrace AS WELL AS a gratuitous grab of a tit or pussy (which they believe LE would NOT do. I dunno if LE would do that or not, but if YOU don't respond accordingly, you risk being thought of as potential LE and your experience will suffer tremendously). Once past this point, the girl will take the money and leave the room to prepare the table shower, or otherwise get ready. During her absence, you undress COMPLETELY and await her return (maybe 5 minutes if they're not slammed busy). Just sit on the table with the spare towel draped over ONE leg (exposing yourself in a way LE would not do). Upon her return, she'll lead you off to the table shower (see MANY other posts for descriptions of that experience). After the table shower and return to your room, if you have NOT yet paid the tip, she may ask you to lay face down and do some massage, or she may immediately jump to the question of "What do you want?" (with no massage even attempted). If there is a "face down" massage offered first, that question will be immediately asked upon the "flip. " When asked "What do you want", you say exactly this: "EVERYTHING" (this is the common euphemism for full service). She may ask to be paid, or rub her fingers together (universal "money" gesture), at which point you have to stop, get up, dig CASH out of your wallet or pocket and pay her. At NDS, the standard tip for 60 minutes of FS is $160 ($140 for less time if you paid for less than an hour upfront). She will probably leave the room with the money and return (5 minutes) to start the fun part of the session. If you MAKE THE MISTAKE of asking her "how much" tip she needs, that will be a red-flag to her that you may be LE trying to get her to state a specific dollar amount... I would expect things to go south very quickly following such a mistake.
THAT scenario is what a typical NEW customer might experience, however, once you've become a regular, the following scenario is much more common. In fact, I recommend the following scenario even for FIRST TIME customers as a way to avoid a lot of disruption in the flow of the session and to convey to your girl that you are an "experienced" hobbyist, even if at OTHER places:
#2: You say one hour and, before she even asks, you just immediately hand her TWO folded stacks of bills, one at a time. First, you hand her a folded stack of bills totaling $80 (for one hour) and say exactly this: "Here's the house fee", followed by immediately handing her the second stack of folded bills totaling $160 (for one hour of FS) and say exactly this: "... and I'll go ahead and pay your TIP now." An alternative method that some guys like is just to have the $240 total in one single folded stack of bills and say "Here's for everything" (or other phrases of similar meaning). The LE check will go down the same as described above (and you respond as described above). Same as scenario #1, the girl will take the money and leave the room to prepare the table shower, or otherwise get ready. During her absence, you undress COMPLETELY and await her return (maybe 5 minutes if they're not slammed busy). Just sit on the table with the spare towel draped over ONE leg (exposing yourself in a way LE would not do). Upon her return, she'll lead you off to the table shower (see MANY other posts for descriptions of that experience). Now here's the benefit of paying that tip upfront: After the table shower and return to your room, there is no discussion/questions about "what you want", there is no time wasted on a lame massage, there is no "face down" and flip, there is no interruption to get up and pay more money. Your girl may still leave the room for a couple of minutes (or may not) to get "supplies", clean up, or whatever, but as soon as she's back you're off to the races and start the fun part right away and you have more time for that portion of the session.
This protocol would also apply to their sister location, King Spa, (north side of E.Colonial less than a quarter-mile east of Dean Rd), as well as many other typical FS AMPs. HOWEVER, the separate and totally different AMP location at MILK SPA runs a slightly different and somewhat unique protocol, as briefly described below:
MILK SPA does, in fact, employ both a manager (youngish, beautiful Keiko) and a mamasan (cleaning/laundry lady), so the upfront transaction is different. First of all, Keiko predominately ONLY offers 45-minute sessions for a total of $200 (which would typically break down as $60 house fee +$140 tip). The experience is remarkably similar to the 60-minute session ($240 total) at NDS/King, and a lot of customers will "save" the 40 bucks at NDS/King by just paying out $200 and expect 45 minutes (although some report getting only 30 minutes at NDS/King). The primary difference at Milk Spa is that, upon entry to the front lobby, you will see only a small, waist-high service window with a curtain behind it, and ALL you will see is a mysterious right hand tapping her nails on the small counter. This is Keiko's signal to slide $200 through that window and stand there and wait (while she counts it). When Keiko confirms you've given her $200, she knows you "know the procedure" from there and she will open the interior door and lead you to a room. Upon Keiko's departure, you undress COMPLETELY (as described above at NDS) and expect a similar LE Check when your attendant finally enters your room in a skimpy teddy outfit. Keiko is somewhat notorious for being a bit of an ice-queen, so don't piss her off or you'll never get back into this place again... if she asks if you've been there before, DO NOT FIB (she will know), so you would say exactly this: "I've been going to King Spa, up the road, but a buddy told me I might like this place better." If you're polite and respectful, she will be the same and actually quite pleasant once she gets to know you. Keiko will NOT be your attendant for the massage session, so don't even get your hopes up, at least not on a first (or even fifth) visit. Depending on how "slammed busy" they are, you will wait anywhere from 5 minutes (not busy... but that's rare) to as much as 30 minutes! Before Keiko leaves you upon taking you to your room, it would not be out of line to POLITELY and RESPECTFULLY just ask her how long the wait will be. Whatever her answer may be, expect the actual wait to be a bit longer! After your girl first arrives and does the initial "greet and grope", she will leave to get the table shower ready and when she returns, she will usually be totally buck-naked to take you to the table shower. Fun proceeds from there as described in the many many posts throughout this thread.
Thank you all, so excited, a few more questions for the pros.
Thank you for all the responses, it looks like a parlor is the way to go for me.
I want this to be the most mind blowing experience of my life. I've fantasized about this for my entire life.
If need be I'd rather pay more and have a queen rather than pay less and go to a creature. I want a perfect ten. I want someone that will absolutely take their time, build up the tension, tease the hell out of me, and make me explode.
So can someone please explain how does this work? Like, do you just get assigned to someone or do you get to pick her out of a line up? I much prefer Spanish women. Are all of these women oriental? That's never been my preference, but maybe I should give it a shot.
1) Do any of these places in / around Orlando have Spanish or white girls? Is it ALL Asian?
2) Is there a way to request the girl (s) start out wearing Slutty lingerie?
3) Will the girls all be lined up for me to choose from (this is what I want) out of a lineup? Or am I just assigned someone?
4) Is two girls an option? If so Where can I Find a place that will allow ME to pick 2 girls?
5) Do any of these places have extremely Late night hours? Like 1 am ish?
6) Will these girls at the massage parlors do Nuru?
7) If I tip well is there a chance I can get some foot play as well as a HE?
8) Finally, I know that my list of requests is ridiculously long, and I'm asking for quite a bit, as I want to do this right the first time. I am absolutely willing to fly to another city on the East Coast to get what I'm looking for. If anyone can give me advice, I'd prefer to stay in Florida, preferably Orlando.
9. I want a ten. How do I sure did I get a premium girl / girls? I'm guessing some of these places have the reputation for providing extremely beautiful girls?
Thank you!
Your expectations are already way too high
I'll say it again. Your expectations are already way too high. What you are looking for is in Thailand or China at the soapy massage or hotel brothels.
[QUOTE=Rasagenor;5328637]Thank you for all the responses, it looks like a parlor is the way to go for me.
I want this to be the most mind blowing experience of my life. I've fantasized about this for my entire life.
If need be I'd rather pay more and have a queen rather than pay less and go to a creature. I want a perfect ten. I want someone that will absolutely take their time, build up the tension, tease the hell out of me, and make me explode.
So can someone please explain how does this work? Like, do you just get assigned to someone or do you get to pick her out of a line up? I much prefer Spanish women. Are all of these women oriental? That's never been my preference, but maybe I should give it a shot.
1) Do any of these places in / around Orlando have Spanish or white girls? Is it ALL Asian?
2) Is there a way to request the girl (s) start out wearing Slutty lingerie?
3) Will the girls all be lined up for me to choose from (this is what I want) out of a lineup? Or am I just assigned someone?
4) Is two girls an option? If so Where can I Find a place that will allow ME to pick 2 girls?
5) Do any of these places have extremely Late night hours? Like 1 am ish?
6) Will these girls at the massage parlors do Nuru?
7) If I tip well is there a chance I can get some foot play as well as a HE?
8) Finally, I know that my list of requests is ridiculously long, and I'm asking for quite a bit, as I want to do this right the first time. I am absolutely willing to fly to another city on the East Coast to get what I'm looking for. If anyone can give me advice, I'd prefer to stay in Florida, preferably Orlando.
9. I want a ten. How do I sure did I get a premium girl / girls? I'm guessing some of these places have the reputation for providing extremely beautiful girls?
Thank you![/QUOTE]