Sugar Baby

Thank you, every point you've listed was spot on.

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5848714]This is a cross post I've shared in the Los Angeles sugar thread, seeing so many scammer related posts here. These are some basic guidelines for newer SDs to save time and money, remain safe, and increase your chances of success:

1. Never send any money before meeting. Not. One. Cent. Only scammers will ever ask for money before meeting. Never accept "online arrangements until we can meet," or send money "to show that you're serious," or fall for sob stories about overdue bills or emergency car repairs, etc.

2. Never pay for a meet and greet: no play, no pay. Anyone who demands this is a scammer and a hustler, no ordinary girl or experienced sugar baby will request this. Your time is far more valuable than that of any entitled bottom feeder.

3. Should the profile not have any full body pictures, or use all sorts of wacky filters, request unedited full body photos or a video call before meeting. Fatties and fuglies will zoom in on their face and use deceptive angles and filters to conceal how gross they truly are. Don't let an overfed catfish waste your time.

4. Set expectations ahead of time, be clear and confident about what you are looking for. Never settle for less, or allow her to move the goal posts. Girls appreciate clarity and your direction.

5. Don't get stuck on any one chick, expecting her to be "the one. " Many girls can be fickle, and may disappear without notice. Always keep more in the pipeline.

6. Make sure to tell your potential SB that "you are looking for a regular connection with someone that appreciates you and wants to make you happy, someone who will do whatever it takes to please you. " This is to ensure she gives it her all. Whether you actually intend to continue seeing her is up to you, but this keeps away time wasters and discourages bad lays.

7. Meet & greets should be in a setting with an easy out, preferably a casual public setting. Meet for coffee / tea, ice cream, or drinks. A sit down lunch or dinner can be awkward if a fat and / or ugly chick shows up, or if the girl turns out to be a rude pig with a nasty attitude. You select the place to meet: don't have a gold digger or rinser drag you to a high end restaurant, or a rob direct you to a place where your defenses are neutralized.

8. Never accept a date where a "gay friend" or "sister" shows up with her "for her safety. " This is a hustler, a dinner who're who wants to treat her buddy or her pimp to a restaurant meal at your expense, or shake you down in some other way. If a normal girl were really concerned about her safety, she would not agree to meet you under any circumstance.

9. Do not engage in altercations or arguments with scammers, hustlers, rinsers, dinner WGs or any other bottom feeders when messaging or texting. They may retaliate by reporting you to the site under false pretenses, and try to get you suspended or banned. Simply stop engaging them, report them if inclined to do so, and move on to the next POT.

10. Don't be afraid to discuss expectations beforehand, but move the conversation off site as soon as you can. Use neutral terms on the site, and at the beginning of texting to avoid bans and suspensions. Once the girl demonstrates she's DTF, be as transparent as you like.

11. Never pay any cash at the beginning of the date. Always after visiting the FC to avoid cash and dash, or bait and switch situations.

12. Keep talking and texting to an efficient minimum, moving the conversation to an in-person date as soon as you can. Otherwise momentum will be lost, and time wasted. Your POT is getting countless offers, and will accept someone else's proposal if you don't retain her interest.

13. You call the shots, you set the terms, this is your arrangement. You are a sugar daddy, not a trick. There are more prostitutes on the site since FOSTA made it harder for them to operate elsewhere, but never let them set the tone. Never accept a prostitute's rules, or more specifically, her pimp's rules. If she drops escort terminology or rules, don't engage her, or risk being banned. Keep her in the streets of Skid Row for the chumps.

14. Remain tenacious and alert: online dating can be a minefield, but there are still gems to be found. Trust your instincts: if something feels off, it probably is. If things feel great, keep a guarded optimism until reaching the FC.

15. Last but definitely not least: Have fun and stay positive!! Approach each interaction on its own terms. Have a friendly and approachable profile: use well lit photos of you in a number of interesting environments or engaging in entertaining activities. Have fully filled out sections in coherent sentences that convey your personality and what you're looking for in very general, easy to understand terms. Any negativity or complaints in your profile can deter a connection with quality girls. Keeping a comfortable, playful environment and good vibes in every step of your interaction with your POT will increase your chances of success.

Feel free to share more tips on this thread. Also be sure to check out the Richmond, Virginia Sugar Baby threads, which have contributors from around the country sharing their best tips. Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5848714]This is a cross post I've shared in the Los Angeles sugar thread, seeing so many scammer related posts here. These are some basic guidelines for newer SDs to save time and money, remain safe, and increase your chances of success:

1. Never send any money before meeting. Not. One. Cent. Only scammers will ever ask for money before meeting. Never accept "online arrangements until we can meet," or send money "to show that you're serious," or fall for sob stories about overdue bills or emergency car repairs, etc.


Feel free to share more tips on this thread. Also be sure to check out the Richmond, Virginia Sugar Baby threads, which have contributors from around the country sharing their best tips. Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing with us! These are some solid tips and I'll have to check out the Richmond, VA thread.

Not much to look at but I can confirm firsthand = True GFE. I will not repeat as I said in a previous secondhand review, not my type. It was a wham bam thank ya man and she was gone faster than Hunter sniffs coke off a hooker's ass. I am going to see if my regular, Nikki, is back at Ocean Star this month. Lovely Lady was good in a pinch when the well was dry.

Stay hungry.

Harry P.

[QUOTE=Joey2017;5618670]Recently met with this one today, she came over and as soon as we entered my room, she started removing her clothes. She's tall, thick body. DATY, BBJ was really good, almost lost my load had to switch to control the pace, went inside her and BBFSCIP, we took a little break and talked, she started BBJ again, got little man up, and then I had to go doggy to see her fat ass, came all over her ass and back. Damage was $$ I probably won't repeat, the looks are not there for me but it was fun.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8cced07-9b79-451f-b64d-0bab52a6694f[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joey2017;5618670]Recently met with this one today, she came over and as soon as we entered my room, she started removing her clothes. She's tall, thick body. DATY, BBJ was really good, almost lost my load had to switch to control the pace, went inside her and BBFSCIP, we took a little break and talked, she started BBJ again, got little man up, and then I had to go doggy to see her fat ass, came all over her ass and back. Damage was $$ I probably won't repeat, the looks are not there for me but it was fun.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8cced07-9b79-451f-b64d-0bab52a6694f[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't see the link. She either got banned or blocked me. Do you have any pics you can post? Interested in trading numbers for another girl in the area, pm me.

[QUOTE=Eroniatele;5840172]Not good looking at all but damn, every hole any order! She a nasty freak and the BBBJ was one of the better I've had!!

Might see her again as she was on the low side of allowance too good for a quick dbl nut sesh.[/QUOTE]Care to share her info? Pm me.

[QUOTE=BestDjInOhio;5856982]I can't see the link. She either got banned or blocked me. Do you have any pics you can post? Interested in trading numbers for another girl in the area, pm me.[/QUOTE]She set up a new profile. If you invite her over make sure you throw her ass in the shower.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/437ea53c-711b-4d37-aca3-efac08fbfff9[/URL]

I am new to the SD / SB thing. I have an account setup, but I don't know how much to reveal about myself in the profile.

I really don't want to add a picture, just in case.

What is typical for a SD to include in the profile to be of interest to the best SBs out there? I can afford just about anything. My income is near 7 figures annually.

I am really just looking for drop dead gorgeous, in their 20's or early 30's and amazing experiences in life.

Thanks for any advice you can share.

[QUOTE=Bertil;5858534]She set up a new profile. If you invite her over make sure you throw her ass in the shower.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/437ea53c-711b-4d37-aca3-efac08fbfff9[/URL][/QUOTE]I had no BO problems, but her breath was awful when she visited me.

[QUOTE=AnonName757;5860708]I had no BO problems, but her breath was awful when she visited me.[/QUOTE]Her breath was horrible man. The first time she visited I thought it may have just been a bad day but the 2nd time it was the same thing. And it wasn't BO but her pussy was smelling a bit foul. I told her to shower up and it didn't do a thing. She likes CIP and that might have something to do with it. After a few deposits in there and no douching I can only imagine. She's one of the few that I turned down when she wanted it raw. It's a shame because she is a fun girl and likes to please.

[QUOTE=BoomGoRocket;5860202]I am new to the SD / SB thing. I have an account setup, but I don't know how much to reveal about myself in the profile.

I really don't want to add a picture, just in case.

What is typical for a SD to include in the profile to be of interest to the best SBs out there? I can afford just about anything. My income is near 7 figures annually.

I am really just looking for drop dead gorgeous, in their 20's or early 30's and amazing experiences in life.

Thanks for any advice you can share.[/QUOTE]With that kind of cash you don't have to try hard. Just watch out for the scammers man they are everywhere these days. Not many legit SD's nowadays just escorts in there. The legit SD's don't really get posted about because of the time and effort it takes to snatch one up. Drop dead gorgeous? That is a subjective matter for sure. It's going to take some work for what you are looking for but with that kind of cash it makes things a bit easier. Just don't let them milk you for everything without even getting a dick sucking. Read the post down below about the tips. Very good advice on there. Good luck.

Set up a meet and greet with her a couple of months ago with option top play right after and she stood me up. No call, no show, guess I lucked out!

[QUOTE=Bertil;5861035]Her breath was horrible man. The first time she visited I thought it may have just been a bad day but the 2nd time it was the same thing. And it wasn't BO but her pussy was smelling a bit foul. I told her to shower up and it didn't do a thing. She likes CIP and that might have something to do with it. After a few deposits in there and no douching I can only imagine. She's one of the few that I turned down when she wanted it raw. It's a shame because she is a fun girl and likes to please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Captainv;5861087]Set up a meet and greet with her a couple of months ago with option top play right after and she stood me up. No call, no show, guess I lucked out![/QUOTE]It's funny you say that. She stood you up for good reason. She told me there's a few times that she has met guys for the meet and greet and then they haul ass LMAO. I'm assuming she thought you would do the same but who knows. There are better options for sure.

[QUOTE=Bertil;5861100]It's funny you say that. She stood you up for good reason. She told me there's a few times that she has met guys for the meet and greet and then they haul ass LMAO. I'm assuming she thought you would do the same but who knows. There are better options for sure.[/QUOTE]I saw her over a year ago, but never again. She 1) could not host, 2) did not have her own transportation, and 3) was bigger and more sloppy looking than her pictures portrayed. Also, as many of you have mentioned once the cloths came off the smell was undeniable. I'm really sensitive to BO and personal smells and if its an offensive one that just kills the mood for me. She had the nerve to mention bb and cip? I thought to myself this must be a joke. So if she's still carrying herself like that she deserves to get walked out on. The one thing that gets me with some of these women on seeking is that they want to not be treated like a traditional provider, but they fuck and want to get paid like one, yet at the same time know nothing about personal hygiene. Shout out to all the main stream providers that can have high mileage AND keep their box clean and free of smells at the same time! LOL!

Let me also just take a moment to also make a PSA and say guys lets all do better with having higher standards. Smelly boxes and sloppy presentation should be unacceptable no matter the donation. Yes we all know that the appeal of seeking as well as all other SD sites are that you can find utrs that will do ANYTHING. Obviously the most appealing are the ones that do BBFS w or w / o CIP, but there's no reason we all need to jump at someone that's sub-standard just because they offer this. The vets that have been doing this for a while already know, but for those that don't I'll let you in on a "secret" most of the women on that sight will do bare. Even the ones that say no will eventually do it once they trust you. You just have to have a bit of suave and technique to how you approach it. Asking right away will make them think you do this all the time and scare them off. Just take it easy as if you find a good sb she will be submissive and do whatever you want no questions asked. Point being the legit and clean women that do this won't be advertising this all out in the open it takes some patience, but your patience will reward you dividends if you play your cards right. I'll stop my rambling and step off my soapbox now.

So GPS is out of control. You'd think with inflation and the price if gas these girls would be more realistic. I blocked this one so you'll have to search for her. She said she'd never done this before and said PPM sounded great. I asked her what an hour of her time would cost and she said I'm new, never done this before. I offered 200 for an hour. She said, "LOL, that seems really low for an hour of my time, how about 400?" I said that's a bit unrealistic and judging by what the girls on that site tell me, you'll be hard pressed to find that. She than said, yeah I've been doing this a while, I get that amount all the time. I said, than why did you message me? Go hit up one of the guys that's paying you that and than I blocked her. Fucking liar.

[QUOTE=Jimmy379;5862582]So GPS is out of control. You'd think with inflation and the price if gas these girls would be more realistic. I blocked this one so you'll have to search for her. She said she'd never done this before and said PPM sounded great. I asked her what an hour of her time would cost and she said I'm new, never done this before. I offered 200 for an hour. She said, "LOL, that seems really low for an hour of my time, how about 400?" I said that's a bit unrealistic and judging by what the girls on that site tell me, you'll be hard pressed to find that. She than said, yeah I've been doing this a while, I get that amount all the time. I said, than why did you message me? Go hit up one of the guys that's paying you that and than I blocked her. Fucking liar.[/QUOTE]This one had a fat ass I wanted to put on my face. She wanted 400 but I countered with 200. She said she wasn't interested in playing and I kept it moving since she told me she's not into ass play. I'm sure she can be had for less but like I said I didn't try to go further.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/572b2275-b476-4aae-9294-13897b36d3f8[/URL]

This one was cool with 200. But she wanted 200 to have dinner LMAO. These girls crack me up. As if me taking them out to dinner is a privilege. They are delusional.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/126715e3-b687-49ff-a290-5a70b59a3f8d[/URL]