Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Spot on TM!

As someone who has made A LOT of money in the IT business, it's difficult for me to bad mouth the Internet, but I think you're right. For every good purpose it serves, there are probably 3 that aren't so good.

Not the least of which is ruining human social skills. Every day I see at least one example of a parent engrossed in their phone while their kid tries fruitlessly to get their attention.

I've often mused that a huge worldwide EMP detonation might not be a bad thing. Obviously there would be mass casualties in the beginning of people who couldn't survive without creature comforts & gadgets. But Bocephus had it right, "A Country Boy can Survive" !

[QUOTE=TMeister;3637387]I think all this public-shaming about "sexual harassers" is just a sign and symptom of a bigger problem, which is the Internet being used for all the wrong reasons.

Once an asteroid hits or Kim Jong wipes out humanity with his nukes, some future civilization is going to study 20th-21st century culture and see that the Internet was a wonderful idea but ultimately a really bad amplification system for the worst of human behavior. Whereas other tech innovations like electricity and automobiles had a mostly upside, future historians will regard the Internet as mostly bad and a tool for an infinite amount of wicked uses. Modern society did very well for hundreds of years with only the printing press, but giving instant worldwide mass communication to every single human on Earth is just a recipe for Armageddon. Think about it and I'm sure you'll agree.[/QUOTE]

It was a good run. But I don't have the stomach for this hobby any longer. Without going into detail I have finally acquired an incredible situation for myself that now leaves me completely, and ironically, distracted from the hobby. For the first time EVER I am now not only compelled to give up the hobby, I honestly don't find myself that interested even in checking-in to the board here just to see what's going on. I still occasionally do for entertainment. But it's now been weeks since participating. And after this post I see myself signing-in less and less until I'm probably soon not going to be checking-in at all. This comes after over 40 years of mongering on four continents around the world and the small fortune spent supporting it. Most importantly, I have no regrets!

I've seen and experienced it all. And though I'm as fit as I was in my twenties, I cannot mentally keep up with the volume of trials, tribulations, and troubles associated with today's current version of the hobby any longer. Some may say I'm wimping out. I think it's more like I'm mentally worn out. I mostly attribute this to direct and indirect byproducts of the heroin epidemic. I've never experienced anything like it since my first encounters with it starting around seven years ago. Before these past few years, the volume of thievery, lies, deceptions, stray needles and paraphernalia left in my car and / or hotel bathrooms, dope sick sob stories, blah blah blah was nowhere near as high as it is now. And then finally around a month ago I had my first terrifying encounter with a gorgeous high-end passed-out provider who finally woke after an hour (and just before I was about to sacrifice everything to do the right thing and call for an ambulance). No, I won't name names here. For me, it's simply time to retire.

Don't get me wrong. I not only had a blast over the past decades (and I've had some absolutely amazing experiences), I learned a lot about myself and what I've concluded about the true nature of humanity.

Though some of you may be thinking, "he'll be back. " I won't. Even if what I believe I've finally established for myself now turns out to be a drastic miscalculation (which of course is always a possibility), I'm settled with my "mexit" (short for monger-exit). Not sharing details about this, but for the first time I am completely undistracted from my personal path. It's actually sort of weird to no longer be hobby-distracted during a relationship commitment. And I'm enthusiastically embracing it.

I'm sharing this with the team now because this site has been a most amazing resource for both my later years of hobby successes and my safety. I especially wish to thank Jackson and A2 for making it happen and dealing with the crap that comes along with it (including some from me). It's kept us all informed and as safe as possible given we all have no choice but to be UTR ourselves. Thanks as well to my brother mongers for your PMs, advice, and rants. And for those of you just getting started on this board, my unsolicited advice is:

- NEVER reveal your real name to anyone.

- NEVER use anything other than a burner phone (app phone numbers suck and I'm still not convinced they're as UTR as anonymously cash-purchased burner phones IMHO).

- and NEVER lend a thing (cash or otherwise) that you'll ever expect returned.

Safe travels and good hunting, my friends. It was a good run.

Mongernator out.

So, I've received a lot of texts today and unfortunately can't get to every single one:/ I just started my female issue late last night. I'm out of commission until Monday at latest I'm sure. Hope A2 let's me post this, I just don't want people to feel like I'm going crickets on them:/ Everyone have a safe and great weekend! Don't do anything I wouldn't do LOL haha! Xoxo!

[QUOTE=Mongernator;3640000]It was a good run. But I don't have the stomach for this hobby any longer. Without going into detail I have finally acquired an incredible situation for myself that now leaves me completely, and ironically, distracted from the hobby. For the first time EVER I am now not only compelled to give up the hobby, I honestly don't find myself that interested even in checking-in to the board here just to see what's going on. I still occasionally do for entertainment. But it's now been weeks since participating. And after this post I see myself signing-in less and less until I'm probably soon not going to be checking-in at all. This comes after over 40 years of mongering on four continents around the world and the small fortune spent supporting it. Most importantly, I have no regrets!

I've seen and experienced it all. And though I'm as fit as I was in my twenties, I cannot mentally keep up with the volume of trials, tribulations, and troubles associated with today's current version of the hobby any longer. Some may say I'm wimping out. I think it's more like I'm mentally worn out. I mostly attribute this to direct and indirect byproducts of the heroin epidemic. I've never experienced anything like it since my first encounters with it starting around seven years ago. Before these past few years, the volume of thievery, lies, deceptions, stray needles and paraphernalia left in my car and / or hotel bathrooms, dope sick sob stories, blah blah blah was nowhere near as high as it is now. And then finally around a month ago I had my first terrifying encounter with a gorgeous high-end passed-out provider who finally woke after an hour (and just before I was about to sacrifice everything to do the right thing and call for an ambulance). No, I won't name names here. For me, it's simply time to retire.

Don't get me wrong. I not only had a blast over the past decades (and I've had some absolutely amazing experiences), I learned a lot about myself and what I've concluded about the true nature of humanity.

Though some of you may be thinking, "he'll be back. " I won't. Even if what I believe I've finally established for myself now turns out to be a drastic miscalculation (which of course is always a possibility), I'm settled with my "mexit" (short for monger-exit). Not sharing details about this, but for the first time I am completely undistracted from my personal path. It's actually sort of weird to no longer be hobby-distracted during a relationship commitment. And I'm enthusiastically embracing it.

I'm sharing this with the team now because this site has been a most amazing resource for both my later years of hobby successes and my safety. I especially wish to thank Jackson and A2 for making it happen and dealing with the crap that comes along with it (including some from me). It's kept us all informed and as safe as possible given we all have no choice but to be UTR ourselves. Thanks as well to my brother mongers for your PMs, advice, and rants. And for those of you just getting started on this board, my unsolicited advice is:

- NEVER reveal your real name to anyone.

- NEVER use anything other than a burner phone (app phone numbers suck and I'm still not convinced they're as UTR as anonymously cash-purchased burner phones IMHO).

- and NEVER lend a thing (cash or otherwise) that you'll ever expect returned.

Safe travels and good hunting, my friends. It was a good run.

Mongernator out.[/QUOTE]With a tear in my eye.

[QUOTE=Mongernator;3640000]
And for those of you just getting started on this board, my unsolicited advice is:

- NEVER reveal your real name to anyone.

- NEVER use anything other than a burner phone (app phone numbers suck and I'm still not convinced they're as UTR as anonymously cash-purchased burner phones IMHO).

- and NEVER lend a thing (cash or otherwise) that you'll ever expect returned.

[/QUOTE]I fully endorse this advice. I have never told anyone my real name (including my real first name), have always used a burner phone, and have never loaned anything to a provider.

[QUOTE=BoxsterS;3638311]Don't have the answer:

Seems to me when [URL]E.com[/URL] shut down the talent starting to dwindle. There were some rough ones on there however, there were plenty of good talent. Always had a bucket list. The photographs were better then too. Most, not all don't even pickup the place before snatching the phone and doing a photo shoot.

250 an hour was the going rate and there weren't any hhr or QV. If a girl was in a hotel, the beds were made, no clothes laying around, or fast food bags and cups either. Then comes the dental issues. It wasn't even a concern then. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't always the of Oz then but, the talent pool was greater. How long has it been since, courtesan was in an ad? Also, plenty without tattoos. I love when Mr. Easton will pull a few names out of thin air and stir some memories.

Your not the only one struggling with this "journey". My first experience in USA was with CandanceceXo. Solid reviews, go see her, what a disaster. Some shit hole apartment with the walls line with furniture like some thrift store. Walked out. That was the eye opener and there have been plenty since.

What happened? I don't have the answer. Is it that the smart phone is so easily accessible a SW can now be on the Internet?

The heroin and meth issue? Law enforcement cracking down on the internet? The internet flooded with plenty of free porn and there is a porn addiction problem and it has driven down the need for quality providers and replaced physical contact? Has porn created an ED epidemic?

Is this the day Einstein feared most? "When technology will surpass our Human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".

You think SA and SD is time consuming did you do the Ashley Madison thing? Now that was some work. I have found a woman with a "past" can so much more interesting to talk to.

Good luck on your journey, Sir.[/QUOTE]Your question about the drug crisis is not a factor. Hookers have been users for ages. Booze, pot, pills and heroin are not new, just more out of the closet. The only thing that it has caused is that there are more women looking for the next fix and dropping their price to get it, mainly because of the increased number of women advertising. The SW with "digits" is true, just read the SW forum and that is evident.

There are still quality providers that advertise here. Read the reviews, you won't find many, but the ones that are here are very good.

The death of free BP ads has caused many lower echelon ladies to come to USAAC. This has taken the spotlight off the long time, professional and sexy ladies, which makes them more difficult to locate.

I have found a few here, including my current ATF, but that took a few so-so appointments to achieve.

The really good ones are moving their efforts to ThE otheR and a Preferred site. Don't take this wrong brother mongers, but they feel they can find a better customer. A customer who doesn't complain about screening for new customers. A customer that sees the rate on their site profiles and don't haggle. Also they will often tip and pay for 60 and stay 45, or book 90 or 120 and not use up their whole time, paying to not be rushed out because the next guy's on his way. Oh and most don't cancel. Also I think that many BP Mongers have moved here. Look at all the New Mongers that post. They are the first to haggle and complain about rates and screening. So maybe we should look ourselves in the mirror and ask, "Do I treat the ladies with the same respect and business practices that I want in my professional life?

Cincinnati's rates are low compared to other markets. That is the state of things. Ladies in Columbus are $50 or more higher for poor service. Go to Houston or Dallas, the going rate is $300 for incall $350 for outcall or higher for the better than average ladies.

USASG is still a great board. There are still great ladies here. I hope that they stay, but I know that they will be less active as their Fan Clubs grow.

I'll probably get labeled a White Knight. But I don't care. I have always sought quality. I support the ones that support me.

[QUOTE=BTBear;3640204]

There are still quality providers that advertise here. Read the reviews, you won't find many, but the ones that are here are very good.

The death of free BP ads has caused many lower echelon ladies to come to USAAC. This has taken the spotlight off the long time, professional and sexy ladies, which makes them more difficult to locate.

I have found a few here, including my current ATF, but that took a few so-so appointments to achieve.

The really good ones are moving their efforts to ThE otheR and a Preferred site. Don't take this wrong brother mongers, but they feel they can find a better customer. A customer who doesn't complain about screening for new customers. A customer that sees the rate on their site profiles and don't haggle. Also they will often tip and pay for 60 and stay 45, or book 90 or 120 and not use up their whole time, paying to not be rushed out because the next guy's on his way. Oh and most don't cancel. Also I think that many BP Mongers have moved here. Look at all the New Mongers that post. They are the first to haggle and complain about rates and screening. So maybe we should look ourselves in the mirror and ask, "Do I treat the ladies with the same respect and business practices that I want in my professional life?

Cincinnati's rates are low compared to other markets. That is the state of things. Ladies in Columbus are $50 or more higher for poor service. Go to Houston or Dallas, the going rate is $300 for incall $350 for outcall or higher for the better than average ladies.

USASG is still a great board. There are still great ladies here. I hope that they stay, but I know that they will be less active as their Fan Clubs grow.

I'll probably get labeled a White Knight. But I don't care. I have always sought quality. I support the ones that support me.[/QUOTE]Another factor is that we all define quality differently.

Let's face it: It is exponentially easier to find what you want here if you prefer older women, and you don't mind a few extra pounds. I read the posts, and some guys here seem to actually prefer women over 35.

I like young spinner types, so it's more difficult for me.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;3640889]Another factor is that we all define quality differently.

Let's face it: It is exponentially easier to find what you want here if you prefer older women, and you don't mind a few extra pounds. I read the posts, and some guys here seem to actually prefer women over 35.

I like young spinner types, so it's more difficult for me.[/QUOTE]I totally understand. The line up of women are basically a smorgasbord of pussy. There is a woman in this world for every man, fat, skinny, young or old. I am not sure where you will find the "young spinner types" other than BP or SA. From what I have seen that is where the young'ins go first. And since they are young, they are still getting their shit together, they aren't as reliable.

Looking at the posts, it appears that the majority of the complaints about communication and location are about young ones. To them providing is just a quick way to make cash, it has not become a business / career yet. Their lithe, youthful bodies make up for some of the lacking in those areas, but they are also susceptible to a quick burn-out from the hobby because there are more hobbyists looking for that excitement of kicking it with a younger woman. The women also get overwhelmed by the avalanche of calls and texts.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;3640889]Another factor is that we all define quality differently.

Let's face it: It is exponentially easier to find what you want here if you prefer older women, and you don't mind a few extra pounds. I read the posts, and some guys here seem to actually prefer women over 35.

I like young spinner types, so it's more difficult for me.[/QUOTE]Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found!

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3640956]Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found![/QUOTE]My question is threefold, who are they, what are their rates and which of them are still actively advertising on USAAC? I think I recognize one, but without names to search they are hard to find.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3640956]Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found![/QUOTE]I'm giving USAG another run. I hope to find more like those.

Unfortunately, this type seems to be more plentiful:

[URL]https://independent.com.cincinnati.escortbabylon.com/post/25037387/5133886563[/URL]#.

Again, not knocking others' tastes; just not for me.

Thanks again for the input.

Hi fellow mongers.

Yeah spinners with little tits.

I would rally like to know who bottom left pic is?

Stay safe.

Lambert75.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3640956]Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;3640972]My question is threefold, who are they, what are their rates and which of them are still actively advertising on USAAC? I think I recognize one, but without names to search they are hard to find.[/QUOTE]The first one on the second row is Addie. She is no longer seeing people. The rest are unfamiliar to me. I'd love to know the top middle lady though.

[QUOTE=Fffooey;3641090]The first one on the second row is Addie. She is no longer seeing people. The rest are unfamiliar to me. I'd love to know the top middle lady though.[/QUOTE]I'd love to know top row lady first one.

So my wife said something the other day that felt like a first step towards getting busted! LOL.

I'm almost on the other side of paying off major debt. So the hobby has been the kind of thing I've been scratching together dollars in small increments till I save up enough. The closer I get to finishing paying my debt, however, the more I'm feeling the squeeze.

I probably should not have done my last two visits for this reason. I got anxious, and I started saving up too much at once, and I went with not enough time between visits. Like I said, my wife has now asked, "What have you been spending all your money on?

Shit! LOL. I'm good for now, but I guess I got to start being more strategic!

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3641720]So my wife said something the other day that felt like a first step towards getting busted! LOL.

I'm almost on the other side of paying off major debt. So the hobby has been the kind of thing I've been scratching together dollars in small increments till I save up enough. The closer I get to finishing paying my debt, however, the more I'm feeling the squeeze.

I probably should not have done my last two visits for this reason. I got anxious, and I started saving up too much at once, and I went with not enough time between visits. Like I said, my wife has now asked, "What have you been spending all your money on?

Shit! LOL. I'm good for now, but I guess I got to start being more strategic![/QUOTE]Christmas shopping has always worked for me this time of year. It works for both "What have you been spending your money on?" and "Where have you been?

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3641720]So my wife said something the other day that felt like a first step towards getting busted! LOL.

I'm almost on the other side of paying off major debt. So the hobby has been the kind of thing I've been scratching together dollars in small increments till I save up enough. The closer I get to finishing paying my debt, however, the more I'm feeling the squeeze.

I probably should not have done my last two visits for this reason. I got anxious, and I started saving up too much at once, and I went with not enough time between visits. Like I said, my wife has now asked, "What have you been spending all your money on?

Shit! LOL. I'm good for now, but I guess I got to start being more strategic![/QUOTE]I hear ya. My wife does not inquire very much about my spending or finances. But it is an ongoing challenge to get my needs met (the hobby being the only place I'm getting needs met) without going too long or too short of a time between visits to providers.

[QUOTE=Fffooey;3641090]The first one on the second row is Addie. She is no longer seeing people. The rest are unfamiliar to me. I'd love to know the top middle lady though.[/QUOTE]Addie is number 4 on the top row. The one on the bottom row is Jackie who looked a lot like addie, she was only around for about a month. The pics are saved with the names in the file name.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3640956]Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found![/QUOTE]I saw #5 twice about 15 months ago, 1st time amazing, 2nd time ok, she stopped posting, I contacted new girls, lost her # shortly after. Was west side past price hill, around the corner from a bar, upstairs apt.

Been on the bench for a minute and looking to start back again. Looking for a good oral visit and needing some guidance. Anyone with who to go with? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3642593]Addie is number 4 on the top row. The one on the bottom row is Jackie who looked a lot like addie, she was only around for about a month. The pics are saved with the names in the file name.[/QUOTE]We are taking about the same girl. I'm guessing the pictures lineup differently on my phone than wherever you are looking at them.

[QUOTE=Achill;3642657]Been on the bench for a minute and looking to start back again. Looking for a good oral visit and needing some guidance. Anyone with who to go with? Thanks.[/QUOTE]By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.

Best eye contact with great oral skills, among many other amazing skills, is BustyREd. Still my ATF.

Cassie knows what she's doing also. Will not leave disappointed.

Limp Vinny.

Has she started to get a little GPS? She just hit the scene a few weeks ago and head reasonable rates. Now she is $$. 2 her hour? I guess business must be good.

[QUOTE=Vinlmp;3643458]By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.

Best eye contact with great oral skills, among many other amazing skills, is BustyREd. Still my ATF.

Cassie knows what she's doing also. Will not leave disappointed.

Limp Vinny.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vinlmp;3643458]By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.

Best eye contact with great oral skills, among many other amazing skills, is BustyREd. Still my ATF.

Cassie knows what she's doing also. Will not leave disappointed.

Limp Vinny.[/QUOTE]Seen at least 10 great reviews on Kellie and I'd like to get in on that, but expensive as hell.

You guys must have 'Real' jobs LOL.

[QUOTE=INTravelingMan;3643749]Has she started to get a little GPS? She just hit the scene a few weeks ago and head reasonable rates. Now she is $$. 2 her hour? I guess business must be good.[/QUOTE]Smart play. The fastest way to weed out the riff-raff IMO. If she has a following that will pay it, then her market is solid.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3644224]Smart play. The fastest way to weed out the riff-raff IMO. If she has a following that will pay it, then her market is solid.[/QUOTE]It's supply and demand. She is seeing what the market will bare. If her business slips, she'll probably adjust her rates. If it stays steady, she made a smart play. (just hope she grandfathers her established clients at the rates we're used too) If not, I'll suck it up, she's worth it IMHO.

[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3644932]It's supply and demand. She is seeing what the market will bare. If her business slips, she'll probably adjust her rates. If it stays steady, she made a smart play. (just hope she grandfathers her established clients at the rates we're used too) If not, I'll suck it up, she's worth it IMHO.[/QUOTE]It's her time (that's what we pay for, right?) It's her right to charge what she wants.

It will weed out the low ballers and the BP Bozos who think that every woman charges too much.

If you are looking for a woman that on my charges $150 or less, they are there. But you won't get the value she gives.

(Don't call me a White Knight for her as I have never seen
her, I just know what I read.).

[QUOTE=BTBear;3644943]It's her time (that's what we pay for, right?) It's her right to charge what she wants.

It will weed out the low ballers and the BP Bozos who think that every woman charges too much.

If you are looking for a woman that on my charges $150 or less, they are there. But you won't get the value she gives.

(Don't call me a White Knight for her as I have never seen
her, I just know what I read.).[/QUOTE]I don't think charging more makes the provider better. I have been with 100 dollar plus providers and left feeling like I could have got the same fore a SW. I was with a lady yesterday I've posted on her before she isn't a dime piece a little flabby decent face but she is very sexual and confident in her skills and herself and very orgasmic. I'm telling you this chick hit nut after nut after nut I came CFS harder than I have in a long time. We were both into it I don't kiss but it was as close to GFE that I could get all for 50 bucks. Nice secure environment on a safe street. I know YMMV but there are so many ladies here in the greater Cincinnati area I just can't give that kind of coin out when I know that there are girls out there that are doing this for far less and I'll have just as good a time maybe better just my 2 cents. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3645103]I don't think charging more makes the provider better. I have been with 100 dollar plus providers and left feeling like I could have got the same fore a SW. I was with a lady yesterday I've posted on her before she isn't a dime piece a little flabby decent face but she is very sexual and confident in her skills and herself and very orgasmic. I'm telling you this chick hit nut after nut after nut I came CFS harder than I have in a long time. We were both into it I don't kiss but it was as close to GFE that I could get all for 50 bucks. Nice secure environment on a safe street. I know YMMV but there are so many ladies here in the greater Cincinnati area I just can't give that kind of coin out when I know that there are girls out there that are doing this for far less and I'll have just as good a time maybe better just my 2 cents. HL29.[/QUOTE]That charging more does not make a provider better. If you and the girl are both happy with whatever arrangement you come to, then it's a good transaction.

So how much was her original hr rate?? $$ is not that big of a jump to what she quoted me the last time.

If I remember correctly, she hit the scene at $. 8 for the hour, $ for the half and. 7 for the quick for the area. I reached out last week and she quoted me $$. 2 and $. 4 for half with no quick. While it may not be a huge jump, in this competitive market and in such a short time, that to me is a big jump. Supply and demand folks.

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;3645891]So how much was her original hr rate?? $$ is not that big of a jump to what she quoted me the last time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3645103]I don't think charging more makes the provider better. I have been with 100 dollar plus providers and left feeling like I could have got the same fore a SW. I was with a lady yesterday I've posted on her before she isn't a dime piece a little flabby decent face but she is very sexual and confident in her skills and herself and very orgasmic. I'm telling you this chick hit nut after nut after nut I came CFS harder than I have in a long time. We were both into it I don't kiss but it was as close to GFE that I could get all for 50 bucks. Nice secure environment on a safe street. I know YMMV but there are so many ladies here in the greater Cincinnati area I just can't give that kind of coin out when I know that there are girls out there that are doing this for far less and I'll have just as good a time maybe better just my 2 cents. HL29.[/QUOTE]Damn HL, I want to meet your girl!

Backpage is getting worse and worse. It's never been up to the quality of USA but at least it was an "acceptable" 2nd choice to occasionally find a gal who was new to the business or, perhaps, find some bargains. Several years ago I used it fairly regularly (before I discovered USA) and, by and large, it worked for me. Now, however, there's maybe one out of 25 ads or so that even hint at being real and the latest quirk is that nobody seems to even put a real ad up--all they do is direct you to a Facebook or Instagram page and, more often than not, the links don't work. I'm I missing something or has BP become TOTALLY lame and useless?

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3647369]Backpage is getting worse and worse. It's never been up to the quality of USA but at least it was an "acceptable" 2nd choice to occasionally find a gal who was new to the business or, perhaps, find some bargains. Several years ago I used it fairly regularly (before I discovered USA) and, by and large, it worked for me. Now, however, there's maybe one out of 25 ads or so that even hint at being real and the latest quirk is that nobody seems to even put a real ad up--all they do is direct you to a Facebook or Instagram page and, more often than not, the links don't work. I'm I missing something or has BP become TOTALLY lame and useless?[/QUOTE]Yr right on. I feel exact same way.

It's so bad I've gone back to Craigslist for disappointment.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3647369]Backpage is getting worse and worse. It's never been up to the quality of USA but at least it was an "acceptable" 2nd choice to occasionally find a gal who was new to the business or, perhaps, find some bargains. Several years ago I used it fairly regularly (before I discovered USA) and, by and large, it worked for me. Now, however, there's maybe one out of 25 ads or so that even hint at being real and the latest quirk is that nobody seems to even put a real ad up--all they do is direct you to a Facebook or Instagram page and, more often than not, the links don't work. I'm I missing something or has BP become TOTALLY lame and useless?[/QUOTE]It's my understanding they now force the girls to provide a social media link, hence the fake links. That doesn't bother me in the least.

[QUOTE=Vinlmp;3643458]By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.[/QUOTE]So Kellie provides the closest thing to authentic porn star experience with the BBBJ?

I'm looking for a pretty girl who does the porn dirty talk while sucking me. She says stuff like "God, I love sucking this dick" and "Splash every drop of that load into my mouth, baby" and other stimulating words like that.

Will she do it?

Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3652414]Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.[/QUOTE]For me, the biggest change came when I became friends with the owner and girls of a local AMP. It is gone now, because the owner retired, not due to LEO, but I am still good friends with the two of the girls and their families. In spite of what you might read and hear, the majority of Asians that I have come into contact with are really warm, good hearted people and I have great respect for them. Without going to AMPs, I doubt that I would have ever met and become close enough to any Asians to experience their friendship to the extent that I have.

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3648829]Tried moving this to the opinion thread but copy / paste wouldn't work on tablet.

We all like variety.

LuvnLivn.[/QUOTE]LuvnLivn we've actually had this convo. I'm not going to go info as much detail as we did or my post would be several pages long LOL. However this is a topic I enjoy discussing and hearing others opinions on it. The first thing that I want to say is obviously the guys in this hobby like variety or "something new" or "strange" as the kids now days are speaking LMAO! ANYWHO LOL to me that's a very obvious fact. If they weren't I treated in something different or variety then they'd still be at home having married sex! BTW that's lights off most clothes still on under the covers mish with eyes squeezed as tight as humanly possible and NO SOUND! So if they ate sleeping with someone else why would you think that they would find 1 girl and stick with only her? Even if a guy has. "ATF" or is a "regular" most still find ways to see other providers. Like when they go out of town stuff like that. And they do it here too it's just some have to actually hide seeing other providers from their ATF bcz for some unknown reason some girls get MAD! I'll never understand this concept! Unless you've entered into a relationship with that client and you've discussed not seeing anyone else how can you get upset if he sees someone else or new? For God sakes he prob has a wide or GF in his civi life! No with me go for it! Don't get me wrong I want repeat clients and regulars bcz each experience gets better and better the closer and more you get to know each oither. Which in turn helps create a very amazing intimate experience. There's something to be said about being with someone that just knows how to please you in ways others don't and don't have to be instructed on what to do. The best part is you get all the great aspects of a relationship with none of the bad. Well usually. Bcz if you have a plrovider that gets mad that you see other people and can't even use them for a reference bcz your worried if they find out they will get mad at you! That's just crazy to me. I want you to come see me bcz YPU WANT TO and bcz YOU ENJOY ME! Not bcz you feel obligated or want to avoid drama. Isn't that the point of seeing a provider? Relax, tension relief, pleasure, total joy with no bull no drama none of the usual. Relationshop negatives. As a provider I do like the variety to a point. I'm not interested I seeing or meeting 10 guys a day. I enjoy my repeat clients and I enjoy making new ones as well. I just limit the amount of clientts I see a day for personal preferences. So yes variety is good and needed to keep this hobby alive but there's also positives about seeing the same person multiple times. However you can see the same people repeatedly and still have variety. I for one don't want to see the exact same guys everyday every week. I like what I get on multiple levels from each DIFFERENT personalities and individuals. I get a fulfillment from different things from each diff person and it allows me to explkore diff things sexually bcz everyone likes diff things. So I'm getting fulfilled sexually in ways most women in the civil world can't or won't bcz then they get do it shamed. So there my 2 cents I guess. Please be nice to me LOL. And LuvnLivn as always I always enjoy our convos even if this wasn't directed at me I still was able to converse with you about it LOL.

Xoxo.

Chloe.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3652414]Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.[/QUOTE]That I am probably not capable of monogamy anymore, which I was once upon a time. Maybe part of it I'm just wired that way anyhow. But having been with cute young women almost 3 decades younger than me, I'm not sure that I can ever be 100% monogamous with a woman closer to my age.