BBFS Providers Manhattan

[QUOTE=JoeIsLive;4929871]Saw Brandy at lears last Friday night. Set up early with the phone guy for a late night appointment Was a decent session, BBFS for the extra ben as others mentioned, but made sure to mention no cip beforehand, so I respected her wishes. Cim allowed, but didn't swallow. Like I said decent session, good performance, all positions etc, good bbj and great ass. Smelled great too. Looks exactly like her pics, which is what got me interested in seeing her even before I knew BBFS was on the table, but not the kind of session that has me wanting to rush back to see her as soon as I can but that maybe due to the late time of the appointment or maybe I'm just getting jaded LOL.

Going to see Shelly Fox tonight as I dig her whole look, and unless I'm blown away by her, will probably take another few months off and save up some dough, although I've said that before too![/QUOTE]I've read on other sites that she has hairy armpits. That's kept me from seeing her. IMO, a big turn off.

[QUOTE=Big0318;4931171]I've read on other sites that she has hairy armpits. That's kept me from seeing her. IMO, a big turn off.[/QUOTE]I should had been clearer, I was referring to Shelly.

[QUOTE=Big0318;4931358]I should had been clearer, I was referring to Shelly.[/QUOTE]She does. I did wind up seeing her last night. The hairy pits weren't a turn off for me. If the chick has the whole alternative look going on, which she does, the hairy pit look works. Plus they were clean. No Bush down below though.

Anyway yes she is BBFS / cip for an additional tip, which may be negotiable. I tipped less then what I expected, on top of the already 50 off Saturday special rate, but honestly the only reason I think she agreed to that was because I didn't stay the whole hour. Again, another session that didn't really blow my socks off, but no fault of the girl. Looks exactly like her pics but man is she petite. I've gotten into the habit of thinking, well if I'm going to drive out to the city, and look for parking that I may as well book the hour, but I need to learn to just go for the half, because if I'm just not feeling it then I'm stuck or usually wind up leaving early and paying the full rate. But that's totally on me. As for shelly, I did manage to get 2 pops, but it was kind of hard making it work because she was so petite and I am tall and not petite LOL. But good attitude and agreeable to all positions, but most likely not a repeat for me.

Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.

Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?

Does anyone know if anyone other than Paige is BBFS friendly at diamond desires?

[QUOTE=Trav459;4932170]Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.

Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?[/QUOTE]I think everything in NYC, whether you're talking about food, entertainment, dating, or hobbying, pretty much mirrors the real estate and rental market here.

In other words it's all overrated, over-entitled, unjustifiably overpriced bullshit, and saturated with demand. Which means everyone has to pay more for less. It's a seller's market, in other words. And just like with the NYC real estate market, I'm really hoping COVid changes that real soon by significantly lessening demand permanently.

[QUOTE=Trav459;4932170]Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.

Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?[/QUOTE]I think it is a mixture of an evolution and an exodus. A couple years ago the break down in NYC might have been 50/50 with one side being UTR/Short Term women with no connections to other escorts. The other side being career escorts and those with handlers or host in locations that have multiple girls at one location. The UTR /Short Term were more willing to negotiate with lowering their rate drastically, going bare, CIP, MSOG, etc since they probably didn't have regulars or just needed a certain amount to get by and they were willing to meet you halfway. A woman desperate to pay a phone bill in the craiglist era could often be talked down from 200/hhr condom only to 80-100/hhr and bare. Either after 1-2 meetings or during before 1st one if they really needed the money.

The other side the career escorts and those that have multiple women in one location have connections with escorts they talk to them exchange stories / rates. So house rules get created. These career escorts or multi provider locations only need a certain number of meetings a month to break even. So once they hit a number of regulars they can't just no longer negotiate. So if they are a 100/150/200 girl who gives you 1 pop of condom only sex in your time. If you disagree with any aspect she can move on she has 15-30 other regulars who do what she wants and NYC has a lot of mongers out here so if one says no another is around the corner to agree to demands. Which also plays a major part having a lot of mongers gives the power to the women.

With that out of way I can say what I think caused the evolution / exodus. Right now the split is probably 99% of women on these escorts sites are career escorts and multi women location spots. Short Term/UTR women kinda non existent. Craigslist, Backpage, and cityxguide went down. There were other options created or popularized to get money like Tinder, SeekingArangement, OnlyFans. So a lot of women in NYC who would have been bareback friendly went elsewhere they evolved with the market. And in 2020 coronavirus happened. Which was the exodus. A lot of good women in the career escort category as well as UTR women just quit. So now you left with women who been in the game for years or just post ads every single day that have their set rules which include no bareback left. I think other cities favor the monger. Like I been to places in Europe where this is legal. And the rates were low and you could get bareback easily. NYC the first question can often be are you a cop / pimp and the women have a lot of options.

[QUOTE=VertiGold;4932368]Does anyone know if anyone other than Paige is BBFS friendly at diamond desires?[/QUOTE]Yes, Paige is with standard tip.

Anyone give this girl a whirl yet? Must admit I am a bit intrigued.

I haven't gone to that Lexi Lace chick for three reasons:

She is not that good looking.

Reviews are tepid.

Lastly, in one of her pics she has a sign in the room that says no English spoken here. Kind of pisses me off.

[QUOTE=OkTotti;4932801]Yes, Paige is with standard tip.[/QUOTE]He asked for anyone else other than Paige.

Anyone know if Juliette does BBFS?

Also for those curious, Nicklett at Pearls of NYC is not BBFS. But still a very beautiful girl and gave a good BBBJ.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4932547]I think everything in NYC, whether you're talking about food, entertainment, dating, or hobbying, pretty much mirrors the real estate and rental market here.

In other words it's all overrated, over-entitled, unjustifiably overpriced bullshit, and saturated with demand. Which means everyone has to pay more for less. It's a seller's market, in other words. And just like with the NYC real estate market, I'm really hoping COVid changes that real soon by significantly lessening demand permanently.[/QUOTE]To me the turning point was when ter went on 2 years hiatus in the US. In the name of me too shit many girls appeared on platform like private delight where you can't explicitly review them. Even many are bare friendly and cip the service is flat. No passion. They just open their legs pretty much then you drip your loads. It is more like a lottery now to find a good quality bareback nowadays.

To make things worse, some dude pay 800 or more for flat or boring services. When I paybthat kind of of money, I discuss services (bareback, cip, golden shower, cim, asshole) openly. I am giving no one free money. They have to earn it. If we do not agree, move on to the next.

[QUOTE=Bigfish27;4933479]Anyone know if Juliette does BBFS?

Also for those curious, Nicklett at Pearls of NYC is not BBFS. But still a very beautiful girl and gave a good BBBJ[/QUOTE]Don't know about Juliette but Nicolette let me CIP at Lear's. She jumps between Pearls and Lear's.

I sent text message to Diamond Desires and the phone girl replied back to me saying Juliette does full GFE and she is BBFS friendly. But, out of respect, I didn't want to be too explicit over the phone, so I didn't ask her if Juliette does CIP. Anyway, personally, I'm not worry if a girl does or does not CIP, all I want is that she is BBFS banger, and I know how to handle the rest. I am experienced BBFS specialist, so I know how to manage the BBFS sessions.

[QUOTE=Trav459;4932170]Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.

Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?[/QUOTE]There are probably many reasons for it, not the least of which is that there are more people going around "educating" people in NY to tell them that BBFS is bad. Another reason could be the prevalence of HIV / AIDS in NYC. I don't know.

But, if you think it's bad in NYC, you ought to try Montreal. If the covid virus hadn't interfered, I would have been heading to Montreal on business this fall and would have checked out the BBFS scene for myself but the word from everyone I've talked with is it's almost impossible to find there. And the reason is, again from what I've heard, there is more "education" from the government and others about the "evils" of BBFS.