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[QUOTE=OnTime877;6198409]Watch it and weep, and of course you've provided no link to any politifact analyis.

A "side conversation" at a press conference?? Regardless of who he was speaking to the audience was the world. He explicitly recommended "injection" of "disinfectant. " Who cares if it's "bleach" or ammonia?? The statement is no less moronic, and we all know everything is Biden's fault but this one isn't on him! Lololol.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33QdTOyXz3w&t=20s[/URL][/QUOTE]Try watching the video you posted again. He didn't tell people to I ject it. He was asking the question to his expect doctors / scientists if it could be possible to do these things.

Is it really so far-fetched of an idea? Did you ever hear of chemo therapy where they inject or swallow poison to kill cancer actually making the person sick. So think about it. Look at all the medications we take for all the illness we have and the side effect they cause. Sometimes even killing us. Giving us cancer.

Like I said he was inquiring if it was possible not telling people to do it and even mentioned having to do it with a doctor.

[QUOTE=OnTime877;6198400]Joe has a lifelong speech imprediment that he's mostly overcome. Fetterman has had a stroke that could happen to any of us at any moment. What is "pro life," space cadet Herschel Walker's excuse, that and his 11 other personalities? Have you asked him to drop out? LOL.

PS Hey why not turn off Hannity and Tucker for a week (fake news), do some rounded research, and start thinking for yourself? That's asking a lot, I know, but why not grow a pair and do something responsible? That's how America works, and it not by swallowing hook, line, and sinker everything propagandists tell you. :-)[/QUOTE]All I know is the world seems to be in turmoil, our country seems to be in turmoil, our economy sucks, and our President does not look up to the job. If you don't see that your in denial! Common man!!

Everything the left accused the right of is exactly what they are doing. This is like the twilight zone!

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6198479]Try watching the video you posted again. [/QUOTE]I did watch it, and don't need to watch it again. Rump suggests disinfectant injections (bleach, amonia, etc.) as a cure for Covid.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6198479] it really so far-fetched of an idea?[/QUOTE]Of course it is, and if you doubt it, I invite you to have a bleach and orange juice cocktail tonight before bed. And if that doesn't work for you, go with some swigs of Clorox, straight. Report back to us! LOL.

As to chemotherapy, your analogy is false. This involves the use of radiation and steroids to shrink cancerous growths, proven treatments and a whole different phenomenon to shooting up or drinking disinfectants to kill viruses. But at least you were man enough to admit that Trump made these suggestions. Cudos for that, as so many are so immersed in their cult mentality that they can't go that far. Lolol.

PS And if Rump's suggestions were so reasonable as you claim, why did he later (at the debates) try to pawn it all off as a joke? Looks like his advisors were a lot smarter than you!

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6198479]Try watching the video you posted again. He didn't tell people to I ject it. He was asking the question to his expect doctors / scientists if it could be possible to do these things....[/QUOTE]You're wasting your time. Until they have a cure for TDS.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;6198562]You're wasting your time. Until they have a cure for TDS.[/QUOTE]The guy is a total moron. Trump never said bleach. Also he thinks chemo therapy is radiation which it is not. Radiation therapy is used in conjunction with chemotherapy. My point t was that most drugs are poison and can be lethal if not used.

In a proper done. Funny how I have gotten bleach and other disinfectant cleaner in my system through the skin and cuts and I'm still alive.

He never said bleach. Watch the video.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6198770]The guy is a total moron. Trump never said bleach. Also he thinks chemo therapy is radiation which it is not. Radiation therapy is used in conjunction with chemotherapy. My point t was that most drugs are poison and can be lethal if not used.

In a proper done. Funny how I have gotten bleach and other disinfectant cleaner in my system through the skin and cuts and I'm still alive.

He never said bleach. Watch the video.[/QUOTE]I'm a Trump hater and voter for Biden, and even I'll state that Trump never said anything about bleach.

The reason that people think Trump said bleach is because:

1. He had that inane idea about using disinfectants somehow.

2. People actually did try drinking bleach to cure themselves of coronavirus.

[URL]www.insider.com/texans-drink-bleach-poison-control-warns-wont-cure-coronavirus-2020-8%3Famp[/URL]

Bottom line: whether you voted for Biden or Trump, don't drink bleach.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6199198]I'm a Trump hater and voter for Biden, and even I'll state that Trump never said anything about bleach.

The reason that people think Trump said bleach is because:

1. He had that inane idea about using disinfectants somehow.

2. People actually did try drinking bleach to cure themselves of coronavirus.

[URL]www.insider.com/texans-drink-bleach-poison-control-warns-wont-cure-coronavirus-2020-8%3Famp[/URL]

Bottom line: whether you voted for Biden or Trump, don't drink bleach.[/QUOTE]That I have to blame because I don't have as much play money for this hobby. You voted for Biden. LOL.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6198770]
He never said bleach. Watch the video.[/QUOTE]Facts don't matter. Current administration -- you recall the party with a plan and science? Is nearing 3 x the Covid deaths as under Trump. Media is silent.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6199337]That I have to blame because I don't have as much play money for this hobby. You voted for Biden. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm too tired to get into a discussion on how Trump's empowering of Putin, including not taking the Ukraine situation seriously, led to the jump in gas prices that sparked the worst run of inflation ever. But between that, and the stupid lack of unifying politics is killing America.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6199849]I'm too tired to get into a discussion on how Trump's empowering of Putin, including not taking the Ukraine situation seriously, led to the jump in gas prices that sparked the worst run of inflation ever. But between that, and the stupid lack of unifying politics is killing America.[/QUOTE]You definitely are delusional. We were energy independent and in control. We were exporting energized and we could have controlled the situation and helped our allies in Europe.

All the government spending fueled the inflation ask any reputable economist and look at history and you will understand. Putin was behaving himself till he got his chance again with a weak President. He took Crimea during Obama / Biden admin and then he's trying to take Ukraine with Biden as president.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6198770]The guy is a total moron. Trump never said bleach. [/QUOTE]

What difference does it make? He said "injection" and "disinfectant," what difference does it make if it's bleach, amonnia, or Scrubbing Bubbles? The big question is, when are you going to take your head out from between Cheetolini's butt checks and start thinking for yourself? That or do as I suggested, drink some Clorox and get back to us as to how it went. Or if you like, make it amonnia or Scrubbing Bubble. Still waitin. Man up. :-) ;-)

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6199944]You definitely are delusional. We were energy independent and in control. We were exporting energized and we could have controlled the situation and helped our allies in Europe. [/QUOTE]

Our energy production levels naturally dropped substantially during the pandemic (under Trump) and have been increasing since.

[URL]https://www.macrotrends.net/2562/us-crude-oil-production-historical-chart[/URL]

Even still, the US, though the largest single oil producer by country, still represents only 17% of the world's oil production, thus we are a small piece of the pie. If you want to whine you can start with OPEC, but the current inflation is the product of worldwide increased demand and supply chain issues in the aftermath of a once in 100 year pandemic.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6199944]All the government spending fueled the inflation ask any reputable economist and look at history and you will understand. Putin was behaving himself till he got his chance again with a weak President. He took Crimea during Obama / Biden admin and then he's trying to take Ukraine with Biden as president.[/QUOTE]

Lolol Inflation is a worldwide phenomenon, and it's worse in some Euro countries. It has very little to do with anything specific to the US. It was inevitable regardless of who became the US president, plus what is the Republican plan for solving it? We've heard virtually nothing.

And where did you get the idea that Putin was "behaving himself?" The worst cyber attacks on US govt infratstructure were committed during the Trump administration, while Trump said "I know Vlad, he said he didn't do it and I believe him. " The BJs from Trump continued with him jockeying to pull us out of NATO, sowing divisions with the same, grifting in Ukraine withholding taxpayer funds committed to Ukraine in order to coerce them into trying to dig up dirt on his election rival, and the list goes on. Why would Putin distract from all those gifts and deep throat action by invading the Ukraine? But it's long been part of Vlad's plan within the goal of rebuilding empire, as he clearly told us in his speech prior to the invasion. That is the same invasion Trump called "genius" even though Russia got their clocks cleaned and withdrew from Kyiv.

So at the end of the day, you are yet another that needs to stop letting Tucker Carlson and right wingnut bloggers do your thinking for you, do some valid research and think for yourself. If that's possible, though if you are anything like the low IQ stooges that stormed the capital, it's likely a lost cause. We will just have to do our best to contain you and lock you up if you break the law.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6199849]I'm too tired to get into a discussion on how Trump's empowering of Putin, including not taking the Ukraine situation seriously, led to the jump in gas prices that sparked the worst run of inflation ever. But between that, and the stupid lack of unifying politics is killing America.[/QUOTE]Unity is a pipe dream. I mean when you have morons believing in Chinese paper conspiracies, lasers directed a voting machine conspiracies, and even after their partisan vote count in AZ turned up nothing, and all the kooky hogwash that Alex Jones comes up with to sell $80 bottles of fish oil, and its Coast to Coast AM gone mainstream. That's what we have today. Have you ever tried to talk someone out of their belief in alien abuctions or Big Foot?? You'd have better luck trying to flip a Moron or Jehovah Witness knocking on your door.

And the balance of power is tilted in their favor, while backwoods states with a few people like Idaho get two senators the same as California, which pays in many more times the dollars in the federal treasury. Not to mention all the gerrymandering of voting districts and voter suppression efforts, even while Rump and Rudy's "voter fraud" cases were laughed out of 60 courts across the land. So forget unity. What to remember is to do exactly what we did in 2022, get out the vote. And though historically we are certain to have some midterm set backs, as is almost always the case with the party in power, 2024 is when it counts the most.

[QUOTE=MadMax67;6199944]You definitely are delusional. We were energy independent and in control. We were exporting energized and we could have controlled the situation and helped our allies in Europe.

All the government spending fueled the inflation ask any reputable economist and look at history and you will understand. Putin was behaving himself till he got his chance again with a weak President. He took Crimea during Obama / Biden admin and then he's trying to take Ukraine with Biden as president.[/QUOTE]This post is delusional.

I'll just point out the first quote you made, because it's not my fault your teachers failed to educate you.

"We were energy independent. ".

How do you define this? Because this answer is both true and false. As this columnist said.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/10/01/us-energy-independence-has-grown/?sh=646f9e01657e[/URL]

" I am often asked if the USA Is energy independent, or whether we have ever been energy independent. A claim I frequently encounter is that President Trump made us energy independent, and we lost that under President Biden. ".

Before addressing such a claim, you must ensure that everyone is speaking the same language. When someone makes that claim to me, I ask them to define energy independence.

If energy independence means we don't import oil, then that hasn't been true since the 1940's. If it means we export more energy than we import, then we became energy independent in 2019 (following a decade of soaring oil and gas production), but we remain energy independent today.

Others may define energy independence as producing more than we consume. In that case, we reached that milestone in 2020. It was primarily a result of a sharp drop in consumption because of the Covid-19 pandemic, accompanied by a smaller drop in energy production that year. But, that milestone remained intact in 2021. ".

Go turn off Fox News and read a book. Seriously. As the great Dan Quayle once said, "What a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have one at all. ".

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6200363]....
"We were energy independent. ".

How do you define this? Because this answer is both true and false. As this columnist said.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/10/01/us-energy-independence-has-grown/?sh=646f9e01657e[/URL]

" I am often asked if the USA Is energy independent, or whether we have ever been energy independent. A claim I frequently encounter is that President Trump made us energy independent, and we lost that under President Biden. ".
....

[/QUOTE]LOL let me summarize the article in one sentence: "It is true that we achieved both of those energy independence milestones under President Trump. " The remainder is just blah. Blah. Blah.