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[QUOTE=Caribe;6761569]I don't recall P&C being a FS shop. I've always received and heard about it being a HJ shop.[/QUOTE]Lucky and P and C are in the same strip mall. Lily owns both. She used to fire girls for a HJ. It's changed. DarkRoomDaddy is right. Times have changed and so have menus.
Seems to be reopened and called Ivy massage. The number search turns up ads from Joy massage at the same address with "Oc specials".
I went by there to get waxed at the place on the first floor and I noticed a super hot Asian girl going into the upstairs.
Does anybody have first hand info on the new place?
[QUOTE=Likndikit;6762091]Lucky and P and C are in the same strip mall. Lily owns both. She used to fire girls for a HJ. It's changed. DarkRoomDaddy is right. Times have changed and so have menus.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Licked / Dicked. I believe the history of P&C over the years is that it has changed ownership a number of times. It started legit with a big open room, with some tease but no please. Then they built out the wood rooms with doors. And it was a Vietnamese place. There was one really pretty Vietnamese girl with a thin body but giant natural melons who seemed to manage, and she would to HE but no access. Later I did FS one time with a pretty young Vietnamese girl, but this was on the down low, not known to the manager. This was pre-pandemic with house fee of about 30 as I recall. During the pandemic they seemed to change again and upped the price to 50 an hour. I thought about trying it but MMS was a ***** so I bailed. I ended up over there a few times recently, and it seems menus are open more and more. All the ladies are really nice, and some of them don't mention tips or money at all. I would suggest just going for 30 minutes. And you will get full 30 minutes, rather than go to other places and pay for an hour and get 35 minutes and then here is your costco water and hit the road jack. I think they have developed some regulars because I hear them greeting other return-mongers in a very friendly and noisy way. They are not beauty queens, but if you are there for service, attitude, and price, you can't go wrong.
That seems to be a minimum standard, but of course, you can do more.
[QUOTE=CoffeeLake1151;6760588]Thanks! Do you know how much the tip would be for an hour?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Likndikit;6761269]I'd guess 30-40% of shops reuse towels if the don't get soaked or stained. They get lazy. I told a girl at Le Palace that if she was going to not change the sheet she should wait until I leave to fold it up. She laughed and said good idea. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Honestly it's more like 75-80%. I've mentioned it before, but if you do the math there's just absolutely no way any shop can keep up with the laundry. My legit massage business struggles to keep up and we only wash towels. Our sheets come from a linen service that comes in twice a week to pick up dirty sheets and drop off clean ones. You can only get 6 or 7 sheets in a washing machine at a time. One full cycle in the dryer doesn't usually get them completely dry, and it's a pain in the ass and labor intensive to fold them and put them away, not to mention they usually come out all wrinkly. And that's just sheets. My legit business gets a pile of dirty towels that we almost never get all the way through by the time my staff goes home for the night. Unless these shops have at least 2 washers and dryers running nonstop open to close there's just no way.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/zen_spa_2023/[/URL]
If those pictures are true, it would be so darn hot; and the place would be so crowded with fellow mongers.
Any feedback or visit story would be appreciated.
So 3 thing bois.
1, Elsa is back!
Enough said; what is there more to talk about Nature's top MVP, Elsa? Well, arrive in the morning, already packed as always even tried to schedule ahead, there is always a line for Elsa no doubt. Greeted by a cutie, but I chose Elsa, so I didn't even have a chance to catch her name then eas hurried to the wait behind the cover for about 20 minutes, and finally met Elsa in the room, she sorta remember me, but let's gets to the 2nd.
2, she actually got performance reviewed by owner since my last review and get this, the service is even better than before!
Quick peck on face, about 10 minutes of elbow massage and some prostate tickle and the bios. Saw my tip left on stand come back started with 69, BBBJ. She remember what her customer's preference which it is always a plus. Covered up with MiSh, but either it is her performance got better or I actually made her come on about 10 minutes of Mish. From there k9 was the wet smack sound effect as I pound away until I blew in the cover. Overall, give my experience 9.5 out of 10, because you know of course, it is Elsa! More friendlier and less of the mistress attitude from before. Very much into the GFE this round which I enjoy.
Will come back for sure. And last thing:
3rd: Elsa is back! What are you mongers waiting for?
[QUOTE=Helmette;6762826][URL]https://www.instagram.com/zen_spa_2023/[/URL]
If those pictures are true, it would be so darn hot; and the place would be so crowded with fellow mongers.
Any feedback or visit story would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Looks like the standard marketing pics that all the nuru places post, where the pics aren't the actual girls working there but are what they consider "close representatives" of the girls. Of course the actual girls are almost never half as hot as the marketing pics.
[QUOTE=Faceless1;6762909]So 3 thing bois.
1, Elsa is back!
Enough said; what is there more to talk about Nature's top MVP, Elsa? Well, arrive in the morning, already packed as always even tried to schedule ahead, there is always a line for Elsa no doubt. Greeted by a cutie, but I chose Elsa, so I didn't even have a chance to catch her name then eas hurried to the wait behind the cover for about 20 minutes, and finally met Elsa in the room, she sorta remember me, but let's gets to the 2nd.
2, she actually got performance reviewed by owner since my last review and get this, the service is even better than before!
Quick peck on face, about 10 minutes of elbow massage and some prostate tickle and the bios. Saw my tip left on stand come back started with 69, BBBJ. She remember what her customer's preference which it is always a plus. Covered up with MiSh, but either it is her performance got better or I actually made her come on about 10 minutes of Mish. From there k9 was the wet smack sound effect as I pound away until I blew in the cover. Overall, give my experience 9.5 out of 10, because you know of course, it is Elsa! More friendlier and less of the mistress attitude from before. Very much into the GFE this round which I enjoy.
Will come back for sure. And last thing:
3rd: Elsa is back! What are you mongers waiting for?[/QUOTE]Yo,
Now I am kicking myself. I was going to take an extended lunch and head out there. Never been, but it sounds like I missed out on a total gem.
If I see her I see her.
Samurai.
[QUOTE=Helmette;6762826][URL]https://www.instagram.com/zen_spa_2023/[/URL]
If those pictures are true, it would be so darn hot; and the place would be so crowded with fellow mongers.
Any feedback or visit story would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can check some stories on NURU page relates to this shop. I have had overall good experience here. Those are not real pics but close. Tried Venessa, Chole, Ruby, Angel (in order of my preference).
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6733382]On a positive note, I went to VIP Day Spa a couple times last week in Stanton and this place is phenomenal. All the girls are late 30's-early 40's Viets and give exceptional BJs. . 4 for HH and 1. 2 for BBBJCIM. 1. 8 for FS but I didn't partake in that.[/QUOTE]I can see BJ for. 8 maybe and FS for 140 but 180 is kinda on the step side ain't it? I've seen mongers post 160 and I thought "Oh shit!" Fuck man that ain't inflation type tips for sure.
[QUOTE=Faceless1;6762909]So 3 thing bois.
1, Elsa is back!
Enough said; what is there more to talk about Nature's top MVP, Elsa? Well, arrive in the morning, already packed as always even tried to schedule ahead, there is always a line for Elsa no doubt. Greeted by a cutie, but I chose Elsa, so I didn't even have a chance to catch her name then eas hurried to the wait behind the cover for about 20 minutes, and finally met Elsa in the room, she sorta remember me, but let's gets to the 2nd.
2, she actually got performance reviewed by owner since my last review and get this, the service is even better than before!
Quick peck on face, about 10 minutes of elbow massage and some prostate tickle and the bios. Saw my tip left on stand come back started with 69, BBBJ. She remember what her customer's preference which it is always a plus. Covered up with MiSh, but either it is her performance got better or I actually made her come on about 10 minutes of Mish. From there k9 was the wet smack sound effect as I pound away until I blew in the cover. Overall, give my experience 9.5 out of 10, because you know of course, it is Elsa! More friendlier and less of the mistress attitude from before. Very much into the GFE this round which I enjoy.
Will come back for sure. And last thing:
3rd: Elsa is back! What are you mongers waiting for?[/QUOTE]Is this Elsa from Believe? She was spectacular.
Different Elsa? DFK GFE?
Does anyone know any places that has AA or Filipina ladies?
I don't know if it is the same girl that everyone was talking about here or my standards are just different or maybe mamasan played me and put different girl calling her Elsa. But I did not understand what the hype is about. Went to Nature yesterday, because someone mentioned that she is back. First thing that was off was that she asked for more money. I offered 120 (same that I paid to all other girls there). She started complaining and telling me that this is not enough. I really did not take more with me and parked my car a little far, since there were reports of raids to this place. Later she agreed and started teasing. I tried DT, but she couldn't take it, and started to choke immediately, although guys here were telling she was not choking. I mean overall 3 out of 10. Her kitty wasn't really tight, I don't know if there were too many guys before me or what. But the point is for 120 you can get chicks who would do a really decent massage and bang you like there is no tomorrow in OC. Will they be younger? Probably not. But they would definitely be 7-8 out of 10.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6761002]Instead of 50 + 140 (190), you can get the same for 35 + 100 (135) at P&C next to KFC on Mag and Westm (diagonal from SH and Bamboo). Wendy is younger and enthusiastic, but Judy is really man pleaser.[/QUOTE]Are you guys serious? Industry standart for handshake is 40, no one pays more. All AMPs in Westminster charge 40 bucks. They just play you so you pay more. Just refuse tell them you can do only 40 they will agree.