Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Tried to answer your PM but your box is full. Here's the answer to the question though:

[QUOTE]How do you take a post from one thread and move it to the rant section like you did? I've looked at what options are there and confused. I have tried cut and paste and it doesn't carry over for me. Thanks in advance for your reply.[/QUOTE]I generally follow these steps:

1. click "Reply With Quote " to the message that I want to move.

2. copy all of the text and close the tab / window.

3. open the fight thread.

4. click "Add Report" and paste in the text, add my reply and post the message.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3625380]Tried to answer your PM but your box is full. Here's the answer to the question though:

I generally follow these steps:

1. click "reply" to the message that I want to move.

2. copy all of the text and cancel or close the tab / window.

3. open the fight thread.

4. click "Add Report" and paste in the text add my reply and post the message.[/QUOTE]I just got the notice my inbox was full. It is clear now. Doh! I hate when that happens!

[QUOTE=BoxsterS;3624167]This venue is a tool I use in search of the perfect wave. Does it exist? Probably not however, my search continues. When I catch the perfect wave I don't want to immediately load by board back on the Woody and ride off. I will want to lay on the beach and savor the moment.

In this struggle, called "life" some like me, don't have that much time to invest in the perfect wave search. We aren't looking for "a" wave, looking for "the"wave. I don't go surfing at Stonelick Lake. Waste of time Dude. Now that's just my preception. I didn't unload my board and test the water could tell it was a waste of time by looking at it. Don't go there a waste of time.

Ladyshay69 is down right ugly. She is not weathered or worn out she is ugly. Don't go there. I didn't unload the board. It's about time Dude. The most precious commodity. I can make more money but, I can't make more time. Surfers don't like wasting time. We live life on the edge, riding in the curl, hanging ten.

You go surfing? If so, be honest about the water.[/QUOTE]Surfing?, that's not living on the edge. Racing and rubbing elbows at 180 mph on motorcycles on a closed roadrace course across the country. Now that's living life on the edge. .

[QUOTE=Scarab31;3625462]Surfing?, that's not living on the edge. Racing and rubbing elbows at 180 mph on motorcycles on a closed roadrace course across the country. Now that's living life on the edge. .[/QUOTE]If you are worried about living on the edge, join the Marines, Infantry. If you are going to live life on the edge, you might as well make it count for something.

[QUOTE=StripJunkie;3625686]If you are worried about living on the edge, join the Marines, Infantry. If you are going to live life on the edge, you might as well make it count for something.[/QUOTE]Will they let middle age men in? If so, sign me up.

[QUOTE=Scarab31;3626055]Will they let middle age men in? If so, sign me up.[/QUOTE]If you're under 28. Air farce is way open. 39 is the cutoff.

I do crack myself up.

I personally think that the only sure fire way to be safe is with a condom coupled with birth control on both sides, and maybe throw on a morning after just to be sure (LMAOO GREAT FUCKING TIMES, you know who you are!) . And even that doesn't work sometimes.

Face it, this is a hobby that involves all different kind of risks. Some people are super cautious, and others are just sloppier then 2007 Lindsay Lohan. Hehe.

I personally take accountability for when I fuck up, or something unexpected happens, and I don't push it off on the other person.

Yes, it takes two to tango, but in this I know that I have the bigger vote.

Ex: I get preggo, I'm going to keep the baby. If I assume that the father would like to know, I'd say something, but otherwise the child is of my making and therefore my responsibility.

Not knocking anybody who doesn't share the same mindset, those are just personal beliefs I hold myself to.

It is TRULY amazing the shit you can put up with when you have a crappy sense of humor.

Or would it be dark sense of humor.

With the incapability to NOT note the very large, (and probably now extinct) Elephant that is irony?

Anyway. I'm debating on if I want to get back on my ADHD medication, but before I do that (and blow all of your minds with awesomeness).

Give me tips on organization and time management.

[QUOTE=Cassie1992;3628366]It is TRULY amazing the shit you can put up with when you have a crappy sense of humor.

Or would it be dark sense of humor.

With the incapability to NOT note the very large, (and probably now extinct) Elephant that is irony?

Anyway. I'm debating on if I want to get back on my ADHD medication, but before I do that (and blow all of your minds with awesomeness).

Give me tips on organization and time management.[/QUOTE]I've heard mostly nothing but good things about you girl BUT I will say this and I'm sorry for being so blunt. A lot of the mongers discuss how your motel is a revolving door, that you see MANY men daily with no screening. Slow down little momma and pace urself. I only see one MAYBE 2 a day if a bills due but I don't just let any tom dixk or harry come over. I'm not trying to offend you in no way at all and I really hope I didn't. I just figured since your asking, and I'm a very well respected reviewed provider of USA. You might want my 2 cents but then again maybe not LOL. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday xoxo.

Had a dream with sugar and VR, I came in my dream very strong I didn't expect any lesss, they are my ATF.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3628673]I've heard mostly nothing but good things about you girl BUT I will say this and I'm sorry for being so blunt. A lot of the mongers discuss how your motel is a revolving door, that you see MANY men daily with no screening. Slow down little momma and pace urself. I only see one MAYBE 2 a day if a bills due but I don't just let any tom dixk or harry come over. I'm not trying to offend you in no way at all and I really hope I didn't. I just figured since your asking, and I'm a very well respected reviewed provider of USA. You might want my 2 cents but then again maybe not LOL. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday xoxo.[/QUOTE]Listen to this woman.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3628673]I've heard mostly nothing but good things about you girl BUT I will say this and I'm sorry for being so blunt. A lot of the mongers discuss how your motel is a revolving door, that you see MANY men daily with no screening. Slow down little momma and pace urself. I only see one MAYBE 2 a day if a bills due but I don't just let any tom dixk or harry come over. I'm not trying to offend you in no way at all and I really hope I didn't. I just figured since your asking, and I'm a very well respected reviewed provider of USA. You might want my 2 cents but then again maybe not LOL. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday xoxo.[/QUOTE]I appricate the concern I do have that little part of me that wants to point out that while it was a revolving door.

They still showed up. But that is the part of me that takes a second to handle criticism hahaha.

It is ironic though. Promiscuity and not being judged about sexual choices is literally what this hobby is about.

And yet we still judge. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass, I honestly just love finding funny paradoxes in life.

Anyway, to be fair I was doing a shit ton of drugs for a little while, so I had to take a step back and reevaluate.

I'm going UTR once I can find my favorites.

I have a real job now anyway so my time is going to be a lot less free.

I do want to talk to you about something though, PM when you get a chance.

[QUOTE=TheGardener1;3629130]Listen to this woman.[/QUOTE]LOL, Why thank you dear! Always puts a smile on my face seeing your handle pop up! You got to come check out The new place! Have a good holiday babe XoXo!

&& Cassie, once again. I wasn't saying that to be rude and if it came off that way, I do apologize. I'm not like that. ! Women should stick together and was just trying to help out!

Because I'm noticing that it is taking.

Literally,

5000000000 years for any of my posts to go through on this new account.

I don't like it.

I'm way to talkative and easily distracted to wait like this.

[blue]Let me help you with that GPS issue.

Don't mention it.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Cassie1992;3629425]Because I'm noticing that it is taking.

Literally,

5000000000 years for any of my posts to go through on this new account.

I don't like it.

I'm way to talkative and easily distracted to wait like this.

[blue]Let me help you with that GPS issue.

Don't mention it.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I tried to write you Cassie but you only have limited access I guess? It says your banned next to your name. Idk what that means but you may have pissed off A2. Trust that's something you don't want to do. A lot of us have our opinions on him but he runs this shit LOL so got to be nice to bossmann or he will fuxk you up. I promise LOL (insider with A2) LOL. So if you can PM me! And yes your right this is our job and this is what we do. But some females do things one way and others do it their way. I don't care personally what anyone does LOL I have my own issue if you can write me tho and we will chat xoxo.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3629962]Idk what that means but you may have pissed off A2. Trust that's something you don't want to do.[/QUOTE]Not only beautiful but smart as well. That GPS shit pisses me off and tolerating it ruins the hobby.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3630274]Not only beautiful but smart as well. That GPS shit pisses me off and tolerating it ruins the hobby.

A2.[/QUOTE]I don't even know what that GPS shit is anyways. Glad I don't know actually haha. Have a great holiday babe! Xo. Ooo and thanks you made me blush LOL.

GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome = Female with a high sense of self worth and entitlement which surpasses reality.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3630912]I don't even know what that GPS shit is anyways. Glad I don't know actually haha. Have a great holiday babe! Xo. Ooo and thanks you made me blush LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3631236]GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome = Female with a high sense of self worth and entitlement which surpasses reality.[/QUOTE]I would have never guessed that INA million years lmmfao! Glad I don't know actually! Happy Holiday! XoXo.

Looks like your adopted city has been keeping you (unnecessarily) busy. I have noticed a lot of blue lately.

Anytime I see a bad report with a new member I wonder who has created a new account for just the occasion. They want to complain but do not want the lady or others to know who they are. You do a good job of sorting this stuff out.

Anyway I know it is not Thanksgiving there but you certainly are aware it is here. Hopefully you found a little Chica to be thankful for over the Holiday.

Now go have fun. You have earned it.

Thanks for the site and Happy Holidays.

Fdx17.

I don't understand why females post fake reviews bashing another provider and then go along praising there self thinking that it's going to get them some type of attention! It's not if anything it will hurt your own business. Nobody can trust or wants to deal with a liar or someone that has to belittle another provider to make there self look better. It gives you no points and if you have to post fake reviews about yourself and others to promote your business you are not a good provider, and alot of have brought it to my attention and thank the same. I would like to thank you though because you have made them even more interested. Rant over!

[QUOTE=Cassie1992;3629148]I appricate the concern I do have that little part of me that wants to point out that while it was a revolving door.

They still showed up. But that is the part of me that takes a second to handle criticism hahaha.

It is ironic though. Promiscuity and not being judged about sexual choices is literally what this hobby is about.

And yet we still judge. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass, I honestly just love finding funny paradoxes in life.

Anyway, to be fair I was doing a shit ton of drugs for a little while, so I had to take a step back and reevaluate.

I'm going UTR once I can find my favorites.

I have a real job now anyway so my time is going to be a lot less free.

I do want to talk to you about something though, PM when you get a chance.[/QUOTE]Addressed to CrissyLynn2015: I have to second Cassie's sentiment. The point of the the hobby is to de-stigmatize have many sexual partner, Cassie and I have had long discussions about this, and have come to the conclusion that pathology is all that counting the number of sexual encounters leads too. Though, I see your comment as being made in good faith, I still detect a hint of American Puritanism. So long as you use protection, I do not see too much of a danger, even with low screening, as much sexual misconduct actually comes from people with are supposed to trust. Just my opinion my friend, please don't take it as an attack, nor some opening salvo to some "provider-theory" (insert laughing emoji) debate, though, admittedly, that could be fun and help, if all parties can maintain a iota of composure.

Saw some nice reviews so I had to see for myself.

Pleased to report Kellie is absolutely delightful. Communication was quick and accommodating. Set up meet within hour. Been to old building with a few roommates down by river before. Think it was to see normajean. Never saw any roommates and Kellie was so tidy, thoughtful, and respectful when I arrived. She is very intelligent; we had conversation about journalism; and she is definitely high class.

Totally GFE. Skills are excellent. Not a clock watcher. Oh, did I mention she is gorgeous? Body is tight and toned. Works out. Calf muscles stunning in heels. 👠. Eyes and face are model quality. One of the most elite ladies in the area. Will repeat.

(Some fool with no posts has attempted to post ripoffs about her that are completely not true. There was never one and she is far too classy to do that. Very safe incall too.).

A lady once told me if a wife would give a husband what providers do the providers would be out of business. Also said if a man is going to meet her needs she must meet his because we know what they want and why they are on here. If that is the case then why comes temptation but for man to meet it. BB is everything from acceptable to the scourge of the service industry. If a man chooses his provider well, provides her with respect and anonymity, is discrete and respectful then should a lady not have the choice to do the same and provide him what he needs the way he needs it.

No guy wants a druggie alkie C and D, B and SW, or lady who does not keep appointments. Some men have medical issues that keep them from holding upright positions when the raincoat comes out, very embarrassing. Some women do not want to go BB due to fear of pregnancy definitely the younger ones who may love the feel but do not want the baby bump down the road. Men and women need to quit being judgemental and decide for themselves what they ike how they like it then find someone who they can hook up with and make it happen but CHOOSE WISELY on both sides of the isle.

PM's are the easiest way to set up BB liasons but do so privately and find someone who will meet your needs as you meet their need $$. Many ladies for the right incentives will meet those needs it is just being willing to trust the man and giving him what he need and probably she is getting what she likes also in the process. Have a good week all and enjoy the sun which is actually going to appear. The Doctor is in or would love to be.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;3634465]Saw some nice reviews so I had to see for myself.

Pleased to report Kellie is absolutely delightful. Communication was quick and accommodating. Set up meet within hour. Been to old building with a few roommates down by river before. Think it was to see normajean. Never saw any roommates and Kellie was so tidy, thoughtful, and respectful when I arrived. She is very intelligent; we had conversation about journalism; and she is definitely high class.

Totally GFE. Skills are excellent. Not a clock watcher. Oh, did I mention she is gorgeous? Body is tight and toned. Works out. Calf muscles stunning in heels. 👠. Eyes and face are model quality. One of the most elite ladies in the area. Will repeat.

(Some fool with no posts has attempted to post ripoffs about her that are completely not true. There was never one and she is far too classy to do that. Very safe incall too.).[/QUOTE]Sometimes, as if by magic when chicks make fake monger accounts what they write about themselves seems to change.

When they make TWO accounts and they are using those TWO accounts to quote and comment each other then when the magic happens it always seems to say something about stealing a wallet.

While I can't tell you for sure how it happened I can 100% tell you for fucking CERTAIN that it ONLY happens when chicks set up fake accounts to review themselves.

A2.

[QUOTE=BgDoc3;3634478]A lady once told me if a wife would give a husband what providers do the providers would be out of business. Also said if a man is going to meet her needs she must meet his because we know what they want and why they are on here. If that is the case then why comes temptation but for man to meet it. BB is everything from acceptable to the scourge of the service industry. If a man chooses his provider well, provides her with respect and anonymity, is discrete and respectful then should a lady not have the choice to do the same and provide him what he needs the way he needs it.

No guy wants a druggie alkie C and D, B and SW, or lady who does not keep appointments. Some men have medical issues that keep them from holding upright positions when the raincoat comes out, very embarrassing. Some women do not want to go BB due to fear of pregnancy definitely the younger ones who may love the feel but do not want the baby bump down the road. Men and women need to quit being judgemental and decide for themselves what they ike how they like it then find someone who they can hook up with and make it happen but CHOOSE WISELY on both sides of the isle.

PM's are the easiest way to set up BB liasons but do so privately and find someone who will meet your needs as you meet their need $$. Many ladies for the right incentives will meet those needs it is just being willing to trust the man and giving him what he need and probably she is getting what she likes also in the process. Have a good week all and enjoy the sun which is actually going to appear. The Doctor is in or would love to be.[/QUOTE]Doubt if I buy the if getting at home theory. Most men need variety, how many actually only see one provider? Even with getting everything required they are always looking to upgrade after a few times. As far as bb that's everyone choice but most usually comes with a premium price if wiing to pay for it. If your a bargain hunter then your choice quality goes down. Just my thoughts.

[QUOTE=Dangus2017;3634440]Addressed to CrissyLynn2015: I have to second Cassie's sentiment. The point of the the hobby is to de-stigmatize have many sexual partner, Cassie and I have had long discussions about this, and have come to the conclusion that pathology is all that counting the number of sexual encounters leads too. Though, I see your comment as being made in good faith, I still detect a hint of American Puritanism. So long as you use protection, I do not see too much of a danger, even with low screening, as much sexual misconduct actually comes from people with are supposed to trust. Just my opinion my friend, please don't take it as an attack, nor some opening salvo to some "provider-theory" (insert laughing emoji) debate, though, admittedly, that could be fun and help, if all parties can maintain a iota of composure.[/QUOTE]I am on the same level as both of you actually. I totally get the point of this hobby, I do! But some girls do chose to do things differently than others do. I don't look down upon, nor judge anyone CAUSE who the HELL am I do throw stones lmao. Cassie has literally had like No bad reviews that I have seen myself that's why I even spoke to her cause her rep is great on here. I've heard some mongers say things and other mongers say other things. Nothing BAD tho at all. Point of long paragraph is this. To each their own The whom point of this hobby is to have safe good fun with as little drama as possible occurring and I think she's held her end on that LOL. She's still kinda new too. I was like that when I first started as well. You have to be to be able to get to where I am and basically pick an choose who you will or will not see. It takes time for that comfort level to be there, yuh know what I mean? So basiccaly saying Cassie is awesome and if I had anything at all negative to say to her you can trust and believe I would day it LOL. I don't sugar coat shit for no one and that's not going to change anytime soon I think its awesome you made a good connection with her! That's awesome.

[QUOTE=Karmennky;3634233]I don't understand why females post fake reviews bashing another provider and then go along praising there self thinking that it's going to get them some type of attention! It's not if anything it will hurt your own business. Nobody can trust or wants to deal with a liar or someone that has to belittle another provider to make there self look better. It gives you no points and if you have to post fake reviews about yourself and others to promote your business you are not a good provider, and alot of have brought it to my attention and thank the same. I would like to thank you though because you have made them even more interested. Rant over![/QUOTE]There are a few women on here that pretty much always get a good if not great review, we all know who those few are LOL so when someone comes round with no posts or nothing and decides to bash another provider, I think has to be very stupid. Smh. I don't see how a woman in this hobby. With an active account on here would even have TIME to do all that bull shit but I believe ut s possible. Simmer down ladies, you will get good reviews too IF you do what your supposed to do. Its really that simple.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3634626]Doubt if I buy the if getting at home theory. Most men need variety, how many actually only see one provider? Even with getting everything required they are always looking to upgrade after a few times. As far as bb that's everyone choice but most usually comes with a premium price if wiing to pay for it. If your a bargain hunter then your choice quality goes down. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]There isn't always an Upcharge either.

Some women just get comfortable with their guy and it just happens. Doing a stripper slide and you just find yourself balls deep BB.

Or the heat of the moment and pop it happens. Years ago I was in a relationship with a provider and we always wrapped up until one night after the eruption she said "I think we forgot something. Oh well. ".

I just said, "Well, we just went down the yellow brick road to Oz, I guess we'll never return to Munchkin Land.

Her reply, "You're right. " then gave me a big DFK and we always stayed in Oz thereafter.

It wasn't our first time together either so that was a factor.

BBFS is VERY YMMV, much like Anal.

I used to be very active on here circa 2009 to 2010. I took a hiatus in 2012 while pursuing sugarbabies. My reason for doing so was that I couldn't find enough higher quality girls like Shelly 19 here. (Shelly was the Bomb, but she didn't stay around for long.).

From a transactional perspective, I like the idea of escorts vs sugar babies. While you can find some awesome girls on the sugar sites, the sugar baby scene takes a lot of time and effort. Hence my return here to check things out.

But: USAG doesn't seem to have changed much.

I don't meant to start a flame war. But it seems that the market here is still kind of low-end. A lot of the women mentioned in the posts seem older, heavier, and rougher. Even worse, a lot of the women who were here in 2010 are still here.

Maybe this is just a different market for a different level of taste. But tell me: Is there no one else here who wouldn't mind higher standards?

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3634848]I am on the same level as both of you actually. I totally get the point of this hobby, I do! But some girls do chose to do things differently than others do. I don't look down upon, nor judge anyone CAUSE who the HELL am I do throw stones lmao. Cassie has literally had like No bad reviews that I have seen myself that's why I even spoke to her cause her rep is great on here. I've heard some mongers say things and other mongers say other things. Nothing BAD tho at all. Point of long paragraph is this. To each their own The whom point of this hobby is to have safe good fun with as little drama as possible occurring and I think she's held her end on that LOL. She's still kinda new too. I was like that when I first started as well. You have to be to be able to get to where I am and basically pick an choose who you will or will not see. It takes time for that comfort level to be there, yuh know what I mean? So basiccaly saying Cassie is awesome and if I had anything at all negative to say to her you can trust and believe I would day it LOL. I don't sugar coat shit for no one and that's not going to change anytime soon I think its awesome you made a good connection with her! That's awesome.[/QUOTE]Just asking to excuse the typos haha.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3634626]Doubt if I buy the if getting at home theory. Most men need variety, how many actually only see one provider? Even with getting everything required they are always looking to upgrade after a few times. As far as bb that's everyone choice but most usually comes with a premium price if wiing to pay for it. If your a bargain hunter then your choice quality goes down. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]At least that is my assumption. I am sure there is a unicorn here and there in our midst but most will provide bb.

Even if they choose no with you does not mean they do not with others. These girls have lives that many times includes boyfriends and husbands. Don't kid yourself. Some of my best memories in this hobby was after (by accident) I come to know a providers husband. The three of us had some wild times. Trust me they do not require their significant other to use covers.

Frequently I arrive (just like on my last encounter) and am told, "I forgot to go to the store and do not have any covers". My reply is, "we are going to fuck right? That is why I came here". Her reply (which is common) well I guess it will be alright this time. You look clean.

I do not do bb. I paid attention in monger school. I have taken the advise of seniors and keep supplies with me.

To date I have never been told no when supplies "are not available". I am sure there are some who truly do not bb but they are few and far between.

I really do not care whether they do or not. However I think it is foolish for anyone to believe she never has natural encounters.

The provider I spoke of earlier had a saying I always thought was funny. She would tell her husband " it does't matter how many dicks I have during the day, yours will always be the last one I have at night.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

I think any lady who wants to go BB will if she is treated with respect and not as a piece of meat. I have been told however as has FDX that the lady is on here to give a man what he wants at the regular donation not an upcharge unless the guy asks for certain things she can not feel comfortable with doing. But her standard rate is the one she offers and if she wants to negotiate her business to do so and her choice. I love PSE no secret due to what covers do to my little guy and if I could ever find a lady who could make the little guy go up and ride for all we both are worth she would be my go to girl. JMO and no one elses. I do not put my business with a woman out in public not my way. But, like any normal healthy male regardless of age I love the warm wet feeling of a woman on my manhood and have a very talented tongue for my appreciation for that woman. Again it is about choosing your partners wisely and in a manner that will allow her to make a reasonable wage in the process and me to get as much of the lady over periods of time to make her want me to come back many times. Have had six guys PM me agreeing with my outlook on this and three who did not and that is okay on both sides. There is nothing that beats the feel of a woman on a man's business or the two of them finishing together with both encouraging the other to make it happen. Damn just call me a "romantic" LOL Saturday in Dayton can not come soon enough Just hoping for a "needy" woman to make it happen. Enjoy the week. The Doctor is out to lunch but the PM box works.

[QUOTE=Fdx17;3636015]At least that is my assumption. I am sure there is a unicorn here and there in our midst but most will provide bb.

Even if they choose no with you does not mean they do not with others. These girls have lives that many times includes boyfriends and husbands. Don't kid yourself. Some of my best memories in this hobby was after (by accident) I come to know a providers husband. The three of us had some wild times. Trust me they do not require their significant other to use covers.

Frequently I arrive (just like on my last encounter) and am told, "I forgot to go to the store and do not have any covers". My reply is, "we are going to fuck right? That is why I came here". Her reply (which is common) well I guess it will be alright this time. You look clean.

I do not do bb. I paid attention in monger school. I have taken the advise of seniors and keep supplies with me.

To date I have never been told no when supplies "are not available". I am sure there are some who truly do not bb but they are few and far between.

I really do not care whether they do or not. However I think it is foolish for anyone to believe she never has natural encounters.

The provider I spoke of earlier had a saying I always thought was funny. She would tell her husband " it does't matter how many dicks I have during the day, yours will always be the last one I have at night.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.[/QUOTE]I thought the discussion was monger / provider and bb. Yeah its pretty stupid to think that civy wise they make the bf or drug dealer cover up, accidents also happen. When you start off assuming and in one paragraph imply you do bb and the next say you don't confuses me. So when a provider says she has no cover and you reply I'm here to fuck and she replies you look healthy you do what?? 1 bb or 2 pull out your wallet condom and say surprise I'm covered, just seeing if you do bb.

I was about to post how I felt some of these girls could have been very attractive had they stayed clean and lived a better life. Not judging but look at how they decline over such a short period. I've spent time with some girls in vegas and while the price is higher you see where the money goes when they show up. They have the low end users too but why would one bother when an actual model can show up at uour room and fuck your brains out. I know there are some decent ones around but I haven't met or even heard of one that I would think was oit of my league and that is the holy grail of thia game for me. Well, that and the bng I have to resort to since I'm here most of the time. But another vegas trip is only a few months away and reconnaissance is under way.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;3635403]I used to be very active on here circa 2009 to 2010. I took a hiatus in 2012 while pursuing sugarbabies. My reason for doing so was that I couldn't find enough higher quality girls like Shelly 19 here. (Shelly was the Bomb, but she didn't stay around for long.).

From a transactional perspective, I like the idea of escorts vs sugar babies. While you can find some awesome girls on the sugar sites, the sugar baby scene takes a lot of time and effort. Hence my return here to check things out.

But: USAG doesn't seem to have changed much.

I don't meant to start a flame war. But it seems that the market here is still kind of low-end. A lot of the women mentioned in the posts seem older, heavier, and rougher. Even worse, a lot of the women who were here in 2010 are still here.

Maybe this is just a different market for a different level of taste. But tell me: Is there no one else here who wouldn't mind higher standards?[/QUOTE]

With Matt Lauer from the Today Show being the latest dude to get fired for sexual harassment related stuff, it just makes a guy wonder where is this all going, and when on earth is it ever going to end?

Obviously, the advantage of the hobby is we don't have to worry about providers filing a complaint with HR. But in the current witch-hunt atmosphere, I worry more than ever about being unemployable if my addiction to young women gets exposed via arrest or whatever. And I am old enough to have to worry about age discrimination. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3637154]With Matt Lauer from the Today Show being the latest dude to get fired for sexual harassment related stuff, it just makes a guy wonder where is this all going, and when on earth is it ever going to end?

Obviously, the advantage of the hobby is we don't have to worry about providers filing a complaint with HR. But in the current witch-hunt atmosphere, I worry more than ever about being unemployable if my addiction to young women gets exposed via arrest or whatever. And I am old enough to have to worry about age discrimination. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]I think all this public-shaming about "sexual harassers" is just a sign and symptom of a bigger problem, which is the Internet being used for all the wrong reasons.

Once an asteroid hits or Kim Jong wipes out humanity with his nukes, some future civilization is going to study 20th-21st century culture and see that the Internet was a wonderful idea but ultimately a really bad amplification system for the worst of human behavior. Whereas other tech innovations like electricity and automobiles had a mostly upside, future historians will regard the Internet as mostly bad and a tool for an infinite amount of wicked uses. Modern society did very well for hundreds of years with only the printing press, but giving instant worldwide mass communication to every single human on Earth is just a recipe for Armageddon. Think about it and I'm sure you'll agree.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3636044]I thought the discussion was monger / provider and bb. Yeah its pretty stupid to think that civy wise they make the bf or drug dealer cover up, accidents also happen. When you start off assuming and in one paragraph imply you do bb and the next say you don't confuses me. So when a provider says she has no cover and you reply I'm here to fuck and she replies you look healthy you do what?? 1 bb or 2 pull out your wallet condom and say surprise I'm covered, just seeing if you do bb.[/QUOTE]Option 2.

Not that it matters what my preference is, but I do not do bb.

Early on in my hobby life I believed all the ladies who said covers only. Over the years I have found that to not be the case. Let's face it. Many of these girls have problems and needs that will make them willing to do whatever is necessary to make that happen.

I always carry condoms. However when I am told they are not available, I use the opportunity to learn. What I have learned is, bb is usually available under the right circumstances.

As far as the boyfriend or drug dealer, I probably do not want to follow the boyfriend bb. Who knows what else he does when he's not with her and I darn sure don't want to follow the drug dealer.

I am not being judgemental. I couldn't care less who does and who doesn't. I am just stating my experience. Which furthers my commitment to use covers.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

[QUOTE=Fdx17;3637817]Option 2.

Not that it matters what my preference is, but I do not do bb.

Early on in my hobby life I believed all the ladies who said covers only. Over the years I have found that to not be the case. Let's face it. Many of these girls have problems and needs that will make them willing to do whatever is necessary to make that happen.

I always carry condoms. However when I am told they are not available, I use the opportunity to learn. What I have learned is, bb is usually available under the right circumstances.

As far as the boyfriend or drug dealer, I probably do not want to follow the boyfriend bb. Who knows what else he does when he's not with her and I darn sure don't want to follow the drug dealer.

I am not being judgemental. I couldn't care less who does and who doesn't. I am just stating my experience. Which furthers my commitment to use covers.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.[/QUOTE]And these days, I wouldn't do bb outside the hobby either. I've been working on getting into the panties of this single mother I know. She can put away the drinks for a petite thing and I'm pretty sure she smokes weed too. I do not assume for a minute she insists on covers when she's drunk / high and who knows how many guys she's been with.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;3635403]I used to be very active on here circa 2009 to 2010. I took a hiatus in 2012 while pursuing sugarbabies. My reason for doing so was that I couldn't find enough higher quality girls like Shelly 19 here. (Shelly was the Bomb, but she didn't stay around for long.).

From a transactional perspective, I like the idea of escorts vs sugar babies. While you can find some awesome girls on the sugar sites, the sugar baby scene takes a lot of time and effort. Hence my return here to check things out.

But: USAG doesn't seem to have changed much.

I don't meant to start a flame war. But it seems that the market here is still kind of low-end. A lot of the women mentioned in the posts seem older, heavier, and rougher. Even worse, a lot of the women who were here in 2010 are still here.



Maybe this is just a different market for a different level of taste. But tell me: Is there no one else here who wouldn't mind higher standards?[/QUOTE]Don't have the answer:

Seems to me when [URL]E.com[/URL] shut down the talent starting to dwindle. There were some rough ones on there however, there were plenty of good talent. Always had a bucket list. The photographs were better then too. Most, not all don't even pickup the place before snatching the phone and doing a photo shoot.

250 an hour was the going rate and there weren't any hhr or QV. If a girl was in a hotel, the beds were made, no clothes laying around, or fast food bags and cups either. Then comes the dental issues. It wasn't even a concern then. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't always the of Oz then but, the talent pool was greater. How long has it been since, courtesan was in an ad? Also, plenty without tattoos. I love when Mr. Easton will pull a few names out of thin air and stir some memories.

Your not the only one struggling with this "journey". My first experience in USA was with CandanceceXo. Solid reviews, go see her, what a disaster. Some shit hole apartment with the walls line with furniture like some thrift store. Walked out. That was the eye opener and there have been plenty since.

What happened? I don't have the answer. Is it that the smart phone is so easily accessible a SW can now be on the Internet?

The heroin and meth issue? Law enforcement cracking down on the internet? The internet flooded with plenty of free porn and there is a porn addiction problem and it has driven down the need for quality providers and replaced physical contact? Has porn created an ED epidemic?

Is this the day Einstein feared most? "When technology will surpass our Human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".

You think SA and SD is time consuming did you do the Ashley Madison thing? Now that was some work. I have found a woman with a "past" can so much more interesting to talk to.

Good luck on your journey, Sir.