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[QUOTE=Cloud5162]I said what the heck, so I decided to head to animal clinic where everyone talks about. Parked in the back and went into #6. Mamasan quickly lead me to a room and asked $40 for HH (I thought it was $60 from other posts? ) I got undress and came in Amy. The Amy that everyone talks about, LOL. She is shy and doesn't talk much, I guess there is a language barrier. She gave a very light/lame massage on my back, that I can't feel a thing. On the flip side I said I heard many things about your special service. Then she quoted me $ for FS and.80 for BBBJ. I opted for the BBBJ. Her skill was just ok, but her service is excellent. After everything was done, I paid her and left, but she didn't give me her personal number like she did to this other monger (booo), I was hoping I can get her number so maybe I can skip house fee next time.
Overall great experience, I was hoping it was be a CBJ because I'm chicken about STDs, but oh well, I better be more prepare/careful next time
Thanx for all the info, fellas[/QUOTE]The.6 to the house was for an hour, not hh. Amy gave me her number and Email and we've been talking. You may have been one of her last customers since she's going back to Vietnam this week after just a couple weeks on the job. She's homesick as hell and fluffing mongers in OC was not her idea of the American Dream. So I guess she's not being trafficked LEO the liar.
We had made plans to get together but my company is not enough of a lure to keep her from jumping on a plane later this week and "postponing" our plans. She says she's coming back but no indication if she'll stay in the business. I question whether she will come back at all. I wish her the best of course, but I'm looking forward to working my way through all species represented at the clinic.
Btw, if you want your BJ covered I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why you just didn't say so. No girl I know has ever raved to me about how much she enjoys the taste of latex, but neither have I ever heard of forced BBBJ! I prefer BBBJ when the performer is not reluctant. Yeah, duh! However, I've also found that some girls who have given me blah BBBJ's do mindblowing CBJ's because their comfort level is raised. I suspect Amy may fall into this category though we haven't discussed it. Performance and pleasure factors are influenced by the level of enthusiasm generated by various psychological factors, and though some guys have a hard time seeing the point, an enthusiastic CBJ can blow away a hesitant BBBJ.
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[QUOTE=Mokoboy]Article with photos are in the OCRegister.[/QUOTE]
I was checking out the OC Register article and one of the comments on the bottom caught my eye. Is it possible someone at C&C might have snitched on them? With customers drying up due to the economy and more girls turn to massage services, there is a lot of competitions out there. The Hispanic community is starting to flood the scene now.
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No on snitching
[QUOTE=IWannaP]I was checking out the OC Register article and one of the comments on the bottom caught my eye. Is it possible someone at C&C might have snitched on them? With customers drying up due to the economy and more girls turn to massage services, there is a lot of competitions out there. The Hispanic community is starting to flood the scene now.[/QUOTE]
I don't see one shop snitching on another. Undo attention on one, risks another especially so close IMO. I could be wrong though.
On Latina places popping up everywhere, I agree. I have seen more new ones the last 3 months than I have seen in 3 years. That is probably driven by the economy.
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[QUOTE=Ib Mike]I don't see one shop snitching on another. Undo attention on one, risks another especially so close IMO. I could be wrong though.
On Latina places popping up everywhere, I agree. I have seen more new ones the last 3 months than I have seen in 3 years. That is probably driven by the economy.[/QUOTE]
The economy has completely ruined my fun. :( I might have to finally meet $30 Julie. LOL.
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Close call
On Sunday 7:30 I went to United Health and C&C but both are closed, United has a sign stating that they are closed more remodeling. The girls that work there are not there against their will, common. They charge so much that's ridiculous. The nice thing about them are all the girls are in the lobby and you can see the selection. Oh well, one less place to go.
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United
[QUOTE=Mokoboy]The Orange County Human Trafficking Task Force will do anything to justify their budget. These girls were not traffic'd. This is just an excuse to spend your tax dollars. Although I haven't been to United in about a year's time, the girls were all professionals and weren't even remotely victims. There was one named Kelly that begged you to do her in the butt. She was the sweetest little thing - skinny, crooked teeth, bad complexion but a real trooper.
United got greedy -- charging over 150 -- which is why I quit going there.
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ueenie was the mamasan and Tracy before her.[/QUOTE]Gee Whiz! I wondered where those girls got all those expensive cars?
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Ah #3
I went there before I went to United Health, at #3 I got Ivy, she's too heavy and that cause me to lose interest. Nothing was offered and I didn't asked for anything. After the massage I left. When I was going out, I say a spinner type very cute about 23 years old sitting in the lobby. I wonder is that Nancy or Vivi. Have to try again next time.
Next went to United and C&C and you know what happen, so went to GG Blvd btwn Brookhurst and Euclid, on the second floor. A 40's lady collect the money and gave the massage but nothing was offered. Maybe they all heard about UH and are spooked.
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[QUOTE=Hotwire]Gee Whiz! I wondered where those girls got all those expensive cars?[/QUOTE]
They make expensive purchases and pay taxes on them so they're doing their part to help revive the economy. God bless those unappreciated masseuse.
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my bad
Hey malibu,
I ment baldy cruser, hes the one that luvs that fat meaty stuff.
i[QUOTE=B Malibu]Hey wait! I'm not into fatties. I like a women to look like a woman, but not down with the chub.[/QUOTE]
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Damage Report
[QUOTE=Hornilius69]What was the total damaged?[/QUOTE]
It is $40/hh and $60/hr. Gratuity varies between $40-$60.
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It seems IE screwed up and one of my post last night didn't make it to the board so I'll repost it. I have a couple of notes from earlier this week:
- 440 Fair has a new office Rainbow Massage. They opened about a week or two ago. Went in but they are all busy so I have to report back later. This office faces the far parking lot.
- There is a smoking hot blonde at the front desk of Fantastic Massage. Anyone knows if she is strictly receptionist? Their sign shows they close at 9pm on weekdays but they've been closing on 7pm so I couldn't squeeze in.
- The two places I visit on Tuesday require a form to be filled out. Never had to do this before. I figure it's due to the recent bust. I went to AC #4 and MMS just said no massage, wrong place. I was about to tell her I was here last week so what are you talking about. I figure they are getting nervous as hell so I didn't want to give her problems.
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[QUOTE=IWannaP]It seems IE screwed up and one of my post last night didn't make it to the board so I'll repost it. I have a couple of notes from earlier this week:
- 440 Fair has a new office Rainbow Massage. They opened about a week or two ago. Went in but they are all busy so I have to report back later. This office faces the far parking lot.
- There is a smoking hot blonde at the front desk of Fantastic Massage. Anyone knows if she is strictly receptionist? Their sign shows they close at 9pm on weekdays but they've been closing on 7pm so I couldn't squeeze in.
- The two places I visit on Tuesday require a form to be filled out. Never had to do this before. I figure it's due to the recent bust. I went to AC #4 and MMS just said no massage, wrong place. I was about to tell her I was here last week so what are you talking about. I figure they are getting nervous as hell so I didn't want to give her problems.[/QUOTE]Fantastic: that could be Kristy. Shes hot and does massage. No extras but does a good job. Got married earlier this year. Myabe its someone else but thats who was there when I went.
#4 mamason always says that to people she thinks could be trouble.
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Ah#6
Well I have been hearing about this place for sometime and finally went. Did not even have time to park and a lady was at the door trying to get me inside. A girl drove up and was about to start work and I walked her inside. I asked if I could have her since she was pretty hot and my type. I was told she had someone waiting but I could have a better one. I got Ivy who looked ok but later found out her nice ass was fake.. and her tits where also fake. I dont mind fake tits if they still have a good nipple for you to suck on. But these had nothing at all :( Over all this place is like alot of others I have been to. Mybe if that first girl was the one I got it might have been a better report.
BTW I have a low post count here but I also post on another site most of you guy visit.
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Allegations of human trafficking are too often used by LE to justify busts. When they do find a case, once in a blue moon, it sells newspapers, gets them funds and they can congratulate themselves (and rightfully so!). If even one in a hundred busts showed human trafficking, we'd here about it in the news.
I am sure there are places around that have trafficked women. There are a lot of private clubs around where dealers and gangsters hang out that are not open to the public and we would neither hear about them nor would we be allowed in. Where girls who have to pay off a drug dealer, an immigration smuggler, etc. would work. Over the hears, I've been told by girls of such places but never been there myself.
To generalize about the asians working in AMP's, AAMP's, CAMP's, KAMP's, etc. that you see on Craiglist, etc. Almost all of those opt for that kind of work to make quick money. Money for luxuries, to buy a house, to send home to family, or to buy a green card husband to stay here. They are away from their family so they can do whatever without bringing shame on their family.
From what I've read, the younger ones are the ones who might be here through traffickers. They would go through the private clubs first, then later move to AAMPs or AMPS as they got older.
More generalizations and stereotypes:
Mainland Chinese women are usually 30-40 plus year old divorcees who come on a tourist VISA looking for a new life in America. They usually have one (seldom two) children back home. They tend to be college educated, are overstaying their VISA's and really cannot work legitimately until they find someone for a green card marriage. With the size of China, they are committed to staying here because they probably won't get another shot at a tourist VISA.
If they have lived here for only a short time, some Chinese want to work with customers from their country. If they have lived here for awhile, many prefer to work with whites, latinos and non-Chinese asians so that there is less chance of running into someone from business at the grocery store or when out with their boyfriend is ignorant of how they really make their money.
Taiwanese women may be similar to Chinese women as described above, but there is one difference. You will find more of them who will come for a few months at a time to make as much money as they can and then go back to Taiwan because they know they can almost always get another tourist VISA to come back again.
Korean women... known only about a dozen and not well so I'll let someone else post about that.
Thai, Burmese, Malasian, Vietnamese etc.... Only seen a relative handful who have worked the AAMP scene with the Chinese and they bring business for the novelty factor. Have heard from posts and a guy married to a massage girl in Thai town that some of them do legitimate massage at work, but will make off hours appointments at apartments for more.
Anybody want to fill in the gaps about these and other women?
[QUOTE=Broadjumper]How in the F**K would you know? I mean seriously, I doubt you've taken the time to learn each of the girl's REAL background. Maybe they're not being trafficked, but you don't know. But face it, the vast majority of mongers couldn't give a rat's behind about the provider's personal circumstances, they just wanna get off. For all the self-righteous posturing I see in these forums, the truth is that most interactions reduce the provider to little more than "two tits, a hole and a heartbeat."
Trafficking is a problem of epic proportions around the world and it exists everywhere, even in the US. And while it's obvious that many of the girls on the street, on the net, Craigslist, Backpage, etc., are women who've elected to "participate" in the life, just as many have been pimped out or otherwise forced into selling themselves. I really doubt most men will ever understand what that's like from the girl's perspective. But do we really care?
I'd hazard a guess that significant numbers (maybe as much as 20%) of providers working in massage parlours, AAMPs, AMPs, etc., in the US have been coerced, brought to the US for this work, or otherwise indebted themselves to pimps.
I'm sure that my opinion will piss off a few of the longtime posters, but I've read so many post from mongers acting like they're doing these girls a big favor while denying that there are any victims in this "hobby." Instead of telling yourself what you gotta to rationalize your actions, be real. If these girls were trafficked, you wouldn't give it a minute's thought just like you don't if a streetwalker's being pimped out.
But then what do I know? Like they say, opinions are like assholes, we all got one...[/QUOTE]
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Human Trafficing
A tip I got from someone in the industry a few years ago...
If all the girls show up for work in a van, there's a good chance they're trafficed.
If they complain about the lease on their new Lexus, chances are they are not. (And the great majority in OC fall into the second category. They're in the trade because the money is good.)