Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

I'm just trying to see how many of you guys are trying to call it quits on SA. Lately the amount of time / energy I put in on this site is extremely disproportionate to what I am getting out of it. Tons of flakes, chicks afraid to meet in person, virtual, catfish, and on top I feel like every time SA sends out a discount for premium like they did last month, that brings droves of men to the site making things worse. I wonder if after the st patty discount membership expires if men in general will exit SA and make this site a little more manageable.

[QUOTE=Djapa1234;5308055]I'm just trying to see how many of you guys are trying to call it quits on SA. Lately the amount of time / energy I put in on this site is extremely disproportionate to what I am getting out of it. Tons of flakes, chicks afraid to meet in person, virtual, catfish, and on top I feel like every time SA sends out a discount for premium like they did last month, that brings droves of men to the site making things worse. I wonder if after the st patty discount membership expires if men in general will exit SA and make this site a little more manageable.[/QUOTE]By the end of the month I will have dumped my profiles at all SB sites. Between GPS, site baiting you with fake messages, fake ads, and what ever BS you have to put up with, they are all a waste of time. I still have some game left in me so I'm back the bars, gym, grocery store, where ever snatch can be found.

[QUOTE=Crewzin;5308534]By the end of the month I will have dumped my profiles at all SB sites. Between GPS, site baiting you with fake messages, fake ads, and what ever BS you have to put up with, they are all a waste of time. I still have some game left in me so I'm back the bars, gym, grocery store, where ever snatch can be found.[/QUOTE]I like that attitude. I feel like showing up dressed well at rooftop bars / upscale lounges would draw attentions of potential sugar babies out in the wild or even just regular vanilla chicks wanting to date up.

A lot of the hotter women in charlotte don't use this site I know but are aware of the sd / sb dynamics. If you ever want to join the forces out there in the wild, please dm me. I am also sick of dealing with uneducated, average AT BEST, GPS trashy women.

Anyone remember a profile like this on SA? Average Debster or something like that? I've been texting with her off and on for a while. Trying to meet up tomorrow but she does keep asking me to cashapp her a few bucks for some pics she's sent. Just not sure if she's legit and don't want to waste time driving if she's going to ghost.

Anyone have any experience with her?

[QUOTE=Djapa1234;5308013]Are you trying to discuss the issue of covered / non covered over text? Sorry but that is so unwise. I have never ever had anyone once they walked in my house walk out of here when I told them I don't do covered. One and only one out of 20+ was not comfortable initially but later one after a drink asked me to just pull out b / c was not on BC. Plus I do have latest STD tests which I always show. Discussing this over text is kind of fruitless I think and will cause you to lose a lot of prospects.[/QUOTE]Opposite experience. Have hosed my chum into countless off SA and I always, always establish that I will be doing so beforehand. Sometimes they say they don't want cum in them, and then I clarify if I can finish with head. Most of the time that's how it goes.

[QUOTE=OrdinaryJohn;5308953]Anyone remember a profile like this on SA? Average Debster or something like that? I've been texting with her off and on for a while. Trying to meet up tomorrow but she does keep asking me to cashapp her a few bucks for some pics she's sent. Just not sure if she's legit and don't want to waste time driving if she's going to ghost.

Anyone have any experience with her?[/QUOTE]Ok this has been discussed 1000's on times, you're thinking with "the little one". Here it goes for the 9000th time. The likelihood of you scoring by sending a cashapp is almost ZERO. Most likely you are sending your cash to a big fat ugly guy who is funding his game, so both of you get screwed, bet he enjoys it more.

[QUOTE=OrdinaryJohn;5308953]Anyone remember a profile like this on SA? Average Debster or something like that? I've been texting with her off and on for a while. Trying to meet up tomorrow but she does keep asking me to cashapp her a few bucks for some pics she's sent. Just not sure if she's legit and don't want to waste time driving if she's going to ghost.

Anyone have any experience with her?[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time or $$.

[QUOTE=Crewzin;5310202]Ok this has been discussed 1000's on times, you're thinking with "the little one". Here it goes for the 9000th time. The likelihood of you scoring by sending a cashapp is almost ZERO. Most likely you are sending your cash to a big fat ugly guy who is funding his game, so both of you get screwed, bet he enjoys it more.[/QUOTE]Oh I am well aware of that. I have not sent any money and will not send any money before meeting. I have had a couple of girls in the past ask for that before we met and I declined. But they still ended up being real and we met and had a good time in person. But obviously if they can milk some money out of you without meeting that is their preference. Not going to happen with me. The reason I asked about her is that We have been texting on and off for quite a while and she does not push trying to sell pictures before she will meet. But I have heard from a couple of members that caused think she is fake so I will move on and not waste an hour drive to find out.

In my experience, when a girl asks for money before meet, they are in one of the 3 following categories:

1. Outright scammers (may very well be a big fat guy, or a guy in Nigeria) taking advantage of simps willing to do anything to touch a girls ass. You will be blocked after you send money. Majority falls into this category.

2. The rinsers laying the groundwork for milking money from you without giving out any sugar. Once they establish you are vulnerable, they will ask for a paid meet & greet. Once you realize what's going on and you wise up, they will disappear.

3. Girls that have been misinformed (by friends, tiktok etc) that only way to make sure a guy is serious is get them to send money upfront. This is a way to make sure you are real, serious and have the means for sugaring. Most of the girls new to the sugaring may take that approach.

I never give a dime to any of these girls before panties hit the floor. But my point is if you outright rule out a girl as a scammer when they ask money upfront you may be missing some legit ones. Of course I am not going to spend time on category 1 or 2. One or two follow up questions are enough to weed out those. I have taken many girls in the category 3 to FC after convincing them I am serious and real and making sure they are comfortable. I understand more than 90% of girls of the site know how to manipulate a guy. They is a small fraction of girls that are genuine and want to get into a mutually beneficial arrangement, but are misguided by social media etc. Once you find them and agree for a meet & greet without upfront pay, your chance of success is very high. I have done it many times. Just my perspective on this.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=OrdinaryJohn;5310358]Oh I am well aware of that. I have not sent any money and will not send any money before meeting. I have had a couple of girls in the past ask for that before we met and I declined. But they still ended up being real and we met and had a good time in person. But obviously if they can milk some money out of you without meeting that is their preference. Not going to happen with me. The reason I asked about her is that We have been texting on and off for quite a while and she does not push trying to sell pictures before she will meet. But I have heard from a couple of members that caused think she is fake so I will move on and not waste an hour drive to find out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OrdinaryJohn;5310358]Oh I am well aware of that. I have not sent any money and will not send any money before meeting. I have had a couple of girls in the past ask for that before we met and I declined. But they still ended up being real and we met and had a good time in person. But obviously if they can milk some money out of you without meeting that is their preference. Not going to happen with me. The reason I asked about her is that We have been texting on and off for quite a while and she does not push trying to sell pictures before she will meet. But I have heard from a couple of members that caused think she is fake so I will move on and not waste an hour drive to find out.[/QUOTE]I discovered she was using pics off the internet of some model. I confronted her about it and she wouldn't own up to it. Scam all the way. . .

[QUOTE=Djapa1234;5308550]I like that attitude. I feel like showing up dressed well at rooftop bars / upscale lounges would draw attentions of potential sugar babies out in the wild or even just regular vanilla chicks wanting to date up.

A lot of the hotter women in charlotte don't use this site I know but are aware of the sd / sb dynamics. If you ever want to join the forces out there in the wild, please dm me. I am also sick of dealing with uneducated, average AT BEST, GPS trashy women.[/QUOTE]Yeah I am not having a great time either. Had an average looking 21 yo girl from Columbia ask for a 500 ppm yesterday and I told her that's a lot. She said I should probably try to find an escort for cheaper. I told her she is right and probably much a better looking one than her LOL. Another girl who just turned 18 asked me to buy her concert tickets which are 2 k before we meet. Almost every profile on SA has a describes themselves as goddesses and we should worship them for their attention. Guess the demand is high.

I think if you find a good SB you like, keep her long term. I have a regular SB I see every other week she is not perfect but she is prompt and really sweet. I like the excitement of something new but the effort and time is getting ridiculous to be worth it.

I don't have a lot of game since even though I am young (early 30's) and fit as I am introverted not tall but I would be open to be a wingman if you guys are looking for any.

[QUOTE=Sledg77;5310354]Don't waste your time or $$.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that Average Debster is 100% fake. I texted back and forth with her for about six weeks. On two occasions, when it seemed like we were close to setting up a time to meet in person, she asked for money via cash app. I told her I would never send her money in advance, but she still kept texting me. I told her she was being written about on this site about being fake, and she acted like she was surprised and upset. She sends awesome pics showing a well-endowed beauty, but it is not her. I finally stopped texting her and blocked her. Don't let her fool you into sending her any cash.

Has anyone talked to "Fox", she seems to be firm about a minimum 400 ppm. We have a M&G tomorrow. Any intel?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d5d23e69-400d-426b-b70c-dceb8e134396[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d3034f5-faba-4650-9490-36ed217d99e3[/URL]

But I hope she isn't. Any intel? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sledg77;5312611][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d3034f5-faba-4650-9490-36ed217d99e3[/URL]

But I hope she isn't. Any intel? Thanks.[/QUOTE]On three different occasions I got her number, as soon as we texted the conversation died down within 10-15 messages. She ghosts.

Very very chatty on the site and sounds very promising and sounds she will do all sorts of great and sweet things for you and then. Crickets.

34 yo, no kids, a dog mom. Demons.