Anyone got her contact info?
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Anyone got her contact info?
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Yeah Right, Like He Doesn't know what He's girl is doing. That's a shame Bro. Sorry to Read that!
[QUOTE=JoeCreeper;4895296][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52767681/[/URL]
A couple of months back I went to meet up with this girl. She answers the door in her underwear. I'm thinking awesome, its going down. I put the cash out on a desk she takes it and goes into the walk in closet in the bedroom. OK, she's putting it away, whatever. I start to get undressed, and this short black dude comes in the apartment. I'm in my underwear. He asks me what I'm doing in his apartment as I fucking RUSH to get dressed. He pulls a knife out on me. Ok, I'm not getting even in a little bit stabbed over this. I make me my exit. She texts me back that he wasnt supposed to be there for another hour and if I had somewhere else to go. I didn't take her up on it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LA1215;4895665]Then you are missing the point.
The grade C rates you describe are inflated, in my opinion. Especially those for the workers who are really grade D, that is, those which normally have worked the streets and gladly take twenty for BBBJ and are delighted to get forty for a BJ and sex. They get a smart phone and discovered the web sites that allow them to advertise and they advertise prices the same as the other ads by other workers that they see online, knowing that they can always find a sucker (one is born every minute) or they can "lower" their price back to what they usually get if their need for drugs is too much to bear.
The grade D workers are the most common.
Stop overpaying.
You may have to search longer some of the time. You would look at ads for a new appliance in more than one store. Don't buy the first thing you see.
LA1215[/QUOTE]So, so true. Stop over paying for crappy service. I don't think we will see legalization for more than a generation. Sadly LE has found a way to get the public behind them on this issue with the crazy way they are letting the girls say they are being trafficked by their boyfriend. Once they say this they are now victims and not arrested. Then comes the press conference about how LE is saving the children of the world.
[QUOTE=DrLickAClit2;4895549]Grade B pussy would be the attractive girls that you see on listcrawler and the other sites that we frequent. Jade would fall into this category IMHO. OG Crystal was also grade B pussy (not anymore). You should never NEVER pay more that 200 hr for grade B pussy. In fact, that might even be too much! OG Crystal was really the only one who actually deserved 200 hr. Do you guys remember the work that she put in? She would literally suck and fuck the hell out of you. Lick your asshole and everything! On several occasions she would leave me curled up in a fetal position because she had fucked me silly LOL Oh how the mighty have fallen. Anyway. [/QUOTE]I sorta agree with you but I only fuck your so-called "grade B" pussy and the only 200 hr pussy your getting is a scam or what I would deem "grade C", if you're willing to pay up to 600 hr for this "grade A" pussy your talking about (ridiculous IMO just fuck a pretty girl who's not a fkin pornstar) you can dish out the "grade B" standard rn which is 300/350 hr, BTW to the people paying upwards of 100 hr for QV on some grade C pussy you're out of your fucking mind, you're effectively paying 400 hr for some piss poor shit, and before people call me out on paying 300/350 hr for "grade B" just understand that I consider "grade B" to be girls who are young, think and are actually pretty, girls I actually want to fuck, I get that we all have different standards but some of why'all are fucking legit methheads and I can't get down with that, no disrespect to why'all just my opinion.
[QUOTE=BeachFlyer69;4893497]Can you share her ad or contact info please. Can't find any good info on LSM.[/QUOTE]Google is your friend. Comes right up for me.
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[QUOTE=OCHedonist;4894200]I've seen her four times in 3 weeks no sign of any bf, or manager around but maybe she's hired a butler? Recent visit I asked about the massage and hot damn you're right it was amazing. She mentioned going to the hotel pool afterwards and I asked if she went now could I come along? Had fun, but wasn't able to get any water play. I did ask if she could help me reach something that had fallen under my seat in my suv as my hands were too big to reach. Managed to snap a few photos of her bent over across the seat which she caught me doing and surprisingly she then had some fun posing for a minute before sending me on my way. I know that the blow job after massage was literally a mind eraser I had to take a moment to get my bearings afterwards. She picked up a new skill with that so if one of you taught her that, a tip of my hat to ya good sir. $. 8 for the hour and I'm coming back this weekend. I also saw that partner mentioned ad and thought it strange but I think that may have something to do with the location change? Either way if it's not there now it can't be positive and I try to limit negative topics when out playing and having fun.[/QUOTE]Which Nicole is this? No Link? You better watch out or you will piss off Bill Ho.
[QUOTE=BillHo;4895370]I felt like a Molly afternoon and contacted her. She promised to come to the house and like always was late. But after that, everything was top notch! I always have her come over for a 50/ QV, but even though I am done in 15 minutes, she always stays for an hour or more. We talk. He "on time" problem is having to ask some "friend" to drive her. But she is looking to buy a car. She also wants her own place, so invall will be an option. Molly is a BBW and very skilled in BBBJ, sucking balls, rimming and PM. I can't ask for anything more. Oh yea. She is photo friendly. See attached. Bill Ho.[/QUOTE]BBW? She does not look big at all from that pic. She looks like she has a decent body.
Mr discretion, I'm so Sorry for the delayed reply I somehow missed this. Posting a few pics in the gallery today. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Hdintally;4896127]So, so true. Stop over paying for crappy service. I don't think we will see legalization for more than a generation. Sadly LE has found a way to get the public behind them on this issue with the crazy way they are letting the girls say they are being trafficked by their boyfriend. Once they say this they are now victims and not arrested. Then comes the press conference about how LE is saving the children of the world.[/QUOTE]Agreed. My max ever is 60 roses. Avg 40. If a provider is smart, she'll know that 40-60 for 15-20 minutes tops is still close to 4 PER MINUTE, which most people with MBAs don't make. I only get QVs the first time, until I get to know the girl. If she bitches about it, I move on, since she's probably either trying to scam me or is going to be a problem to deal with. If she's cool about it, If I like, I'll tip + get more time after the fact. I've been known to bring them food and other gifts at times, no exchange required. They're people too.
I've experienced 90% of the girls here. Even some of the "A's" for close to that, it all has to do with timing of the offer. There's a lot to pick from and they need the roses more than I need their services, esp. With the pandemic, when the candy is low, and at certain times of the month.
I'm surprised they're not taking 20 for qv / BJ like some of them used to back in the last recession. I also think all the online work (onlyfans, patreon, etc.) is adding to the problem.
[QUOTE=Tattoo47;4894940]As for health, everyone has their own value system, have I seen SW during covid 19 outbreak, yes, but most of us have and escorts don't really care A=about their health. Do we, sort of. I am sure that some mongers have stopped, but there are more who haven't and the escorts know that. It is a 2 way street.[/QUOTE]My point wasn't that the health risk aspect of hobbying has been the over-riding factor driving the pricing changes we've been discussing, but that it has had some.
I absolutely agree that, to whatever degree they're concerned about their health, these girls are much more concerned about making their money (and I said as much in my post). But, for at least some, even they have showed some concern. I've seen at least a few ads that mentioned not seeing guys showing Covid symptoms. I'm not sure how that'd work. Temperature checks at the door? Turning away guys with coughs? I seriously doubt it. However, I did read about at least one provider who actually requires guys to wear masks during the session! Again, seems pretty ridiculous to me, but its out there. Of course, the vast majority of these gals are just continuing as they had before, but don't think the concern isn't in the back of their minds or that it doesn't make them re-evaluate how well they want to be compensated for taking the risks they do.
Meanwhile, on the other side, while its true that for the majority of guys who post on boards like this one we still need to get our rocks off and continue to partake, not every guy is as dedicated to the hobby as we are. I have a couple of buddies who don't post here who have taken a complete hiatus from mongering. Even with the guys here, I imagine that many, or at least a significant minority, while they still seek out sessions, don't partake quite as often as they did before. Part of that may be due to the recent dearth of better options, but I'm sure trying to minimize exposure and risk plays a part too. Plus while hopefully we don't have the underlying condition of drug addiction many of us are older, perhaps overweight and have other underlying conditions that put us at higher risk.
Which is all just my long-winded way to get to my point: Health concerns probably do have only a minimal impact on supply (lets just say -1 to -2% On the demand side it may be minimal too (my guess there maybe -10 to -15% The net effect should be a downward pressure on prices, not up.
[QUOTE=JoeCreeper;4895296][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52767681/[/URL]
A couple of months back I went to meet up with this girl. She answers the door in her underwear. I'm thinking awesome, its going down. I put the cash out on a desk she takes it and goes into the walk in closet in the bedroom. OK, she's putting it away, whatever. I start to get undressed, and this short black dude comes in the apartment. I'm in my underwear. He asks me what I'm doing in his apartment as I fucking RUSH to get dressed. He pulls a knife out on me. Ok, I'm not getting even in a little bit stabbed over this. I make me my exit. She texts me back that he wasnt supposed to be there for another hour and if I had somewhere else to go. I didn't take her up on it.[/QUOTE]This has been a known pattern with these two and I know from personal experience. I don't know that it happens every time but stay away.
Finally knock one off my bucket list. 2 nice females and me! Make the call and went over (off 301,Riverview) The door was opened by Layla (Blonde BBW) and I walked in, greeted her and Sophia (short hair, nice eyes). I had seen Layla before and was familiar with her but, Sophia was new to me, they are a couple. I got undress and they did too. I was drawn to the eyes of Sophia but, also to her lovely figure, I was impressed! I laid down and Layla got between my legs and place my meat in her mouth, while Sophia came up along side of me and I sucked her nipples! I kept alternating between nipples and Layla kept sucking, it was moaning-good! I got ready and place on the jacket and got between Sophia legs doggystyled. Layla had maneuvered herself under Sophia and they were facing each other. As they were doing their thing, I was stroking through a nice wet pussy and continued my stroking until I creamed meself! Nice value! Get you some! Over by 941 roses,328 tulips, and 2720 shrimps.
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4896195]BBW? She does not look big at all from that pic. She looks like she has a decent body.[/QUOTE]Pretty meaty but not a BBW to me.
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No face photos in her ad but trust me she's GTG. Really attractive face, thick body, cute manicured toes, no signs of candy use (nice teeth and she has all of them) and OMFG what a BBBJ. Her ad says no bravo, but I pre-arranged an o-natural session and she didn't stop until every potential piece of fatherhood I own for the next two weeks was safely in her mouth. You will not find a better BJ. Standard online rates apply.
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I saw her 2 nights ago & was happy as always w 60 BBBJ She is located close to Toll rd & S Falkenburg Rd.
Nrb Man.
First post I've made here because we all know we here for a good time, not a long time. But Stephanie is both And the best provider I've seen in years considering I was retired from the scene, . $$ for the hh was beyond worth it. She's an actual human being Who's considerate of your needs. If any of why'all do end up meeting her You will be praying to every man-made god out for that next dream wit her ASAP.
Overall 11/10 truly a gem.
BBj retires once again, be safe everyone and why'all play nice.
I just had my second visit with Julia & had a great time. Like most of the Latinas, her pics are fake, but she is stunning with a pretty face & a great body. My only major complaint with her is she can be difficult to get a hold of. I first saw her a month ago. Since then I reached out to her several times & got nothing. When I saw her posting Friday I tried both texting & calling her to no avail. I tried again Saturday & finally got a response an hr later. Once she realized she saw me before it was smooth sailing & I was at her place with little trouble. I did the hr for $$ & enjoyed MSOG, DATY, DATO, CBJ, & CFS. We went through missionary, CG, RCG, & doggy. We even worked ourselves into a 69. Between rounds, she gave me a pretty great massage. I talked to her about having a threesome with her & her roommate, Adriana, next time. That may take some work. I may end up doing another solo session with Adriana & work out the threesome through her since I think she may be more reliable. Regardless if you manage to book her Julia is a fun time.
Julia.
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Adriana.
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[QUOTE=Vandald;4896920]I just had my second visit with Julia & had a great time. Like most of the Latinas, her pics are fake, but she is stunning with a pretty face & a great body. My only major complaint with her is she can be difficult to get a hold of. I first saw her a month ago. Since then I reached out to her several times & got nothing. When I saw her posting Friday I tried both texting & calling her to no avail. I tried again Saturday & finally got a response an hr later. Once she realized she saw me before it was smooth sailing & I was at her place with little trouble. I did the hr for $$ & enjoyed MSOG, DATY, DATO, CBJ, & CFS. We went through missionary, CG, RCG, & doggy. We even worked ourselves into a 69. Between rounds, she gave me a pretty great massage. I talked to her about having a threesome with her & her roommate, Adriana, next time. That may take some work. I may end up doing another solo session with Adriana & work out the threesome through her since I think she may be more reliable. Regardless if you manage to book her Julia is a fun time.
Julia.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/florida/tampa/female-escorts/1179904[/URL]
Adriana.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/florida/tampa/female-escorts/1179932[/URL][/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong, Julia used to go by name Veronica some time back?
Here is another guy spoiling it for the rest of us. To pay 200 for half an hour is insane! Bill Ho.
[QUOTE=BlueBallJim;4896731]First post I've made here because we all know we here for a good time, not a long time. But Stephanie is both And the best provider I've seen in years considering I was retired from the scene, . $$ for the hh was beyond worth it. She's an actual human being Who's considerate of your needs. If any of why'all do end up meeting her You will be praying to every man-made god out for that next dream wit her ASAP.
Overall 11/10 truly a gem.
BBj retires once again, be safe everyone and why'all play nice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BillHo;4897249]Here is another guy spoiling it for the rest of us. To pay 200 for half an hour is insane! Bill Ho.[/QUOTE]Crazy to pay that price if he is referring to the same Stephanie that advertises 120 for hhr and 150 full hr.
[QUOTE=BillHo;4897249]Here is another guy spoiling it for the rest of us. To pay 200 for half an hour is insane! Bill Ho.[/QUOTE]If it's the same one that stays around the casino area she can be had for 60 dollars for a qv guess he can have a rookie mistake since it's his first post but damn bro your killing it for the rest of us guys like I said nothing is going to change until we all band together and stop paying the crazy prices stay safe out there fellas.
No GFE but will swallow and let you cum in her pussy. Seems legit.
[QUOTE=TampaHobby;4860637]Was that the case when you saw her?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vandald;4896920]I just had my second visit with Julia & had a great time. Like most of the Latinas, her pics are fake, but she is stunning with a pretty face & a great body. My only major complaint with her is she can be difficult to get a hold of. I first saw her a month ago. Since then I reached out to her several times & got nothing. When I saw her posting Friday I tried both texting & calling her to no avail. I tried again Saturday & finally got a response an hr later. Once she realized she saw me before it was smooth sailing & I was at her place with little trouble. I did the hr for $$ & enjoyed MSOG, DATY, DATO, CBJ, & CFS. We went through missionary, CG, RCG, & doggy. We even worked ourselves into a 69. Between rounds, she gave me a pretty great massage. I talked to her about having a threesome with her & her roommate, Adriana, next time. That may take some work. I may end up doing another solo session with Adriana & work out the threesome through her since I think she may be more reliable. Regardless if you manage to book her Julia is a fun time.
Julia.[/QUOTE]Adrianna seems flaky. I did she her once last year, since then, either she got a legit job or doesn't want to see me (I did text to cancel once).
Julia is just convenient for me to play with her.
I've been out of game for a bit but wondering if any info on this girl?
Thanks for any help.
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[QUOTE=HobbyMan2013;4896286]Agreed. My max ever is 60 roses. Avg 40. If a provider is smart, she'll know that 40-60 for 15-20 minutes tops is still close to 4 PER MINUTE, which most people with MBAs don't make. I only get QVs the first time, until I get to know the girl. If she bitches about it, I move on, since she's probably either trying to scam me or is going to be a problem to deal with. If she's cool about it, If I like, I'll tip + get more time after the fact. I've been known to bring them food and other gifts at times, no exchange required. They're people too.
I've experienced 90% of the girls here. Even some of the "A's" for close to that, it all has to do with timing of the offer. There's a lot to pick from and they need the roses more than I need their services, esp. With the pandemic, when the candy is low, and at certain times of the month.
I'm surprised they're not taking 20 for qv / BJ like some of them used to back in the last recession. I also think all the online work (onlyfans, patreon, etc.) is adding to the problem.[/QUOTE]Your math is good but the premise is off. Hookers are not hourly wage workers despite advertising based on time. They are more like piece rate workers. In a piece rate scale, a worker gets paid for each article they produce, regardless of the "production" time involved. Productive piece rate workers earn more per day because they produce more product each day. Lazy workers, or unskilled workers earn less per day because they have less product output. So, each of these girls have a basic grasp of how much "product" they need to turn out each day to pay for their room, food, drugs, etc. Most are only motivated to be just productive enough to break even. They are not investing in a 401 K or saving up for a down payment on a house. LOL The cheaper the "piece rate" the higher the necessary volume required for a girl to survive every day. And, there is more time invested in a date than just the actual date. Most of us spend 30 - 60 minutes prior texting, etc. With a girl prior to arrival. I know, I know, they are probably texting and double or triple booking, but they are still investing time in their ultimate product. So, a straight per minute wage calculation is not applicable.
Having said all that, I do agree that there is a "standard" rate for most of the Grade C and D girls or SWs. My scale is my scale, usually, depending on how good looking the girl is and her skills:
SW: 20-40, BBBJ; 40-60 FS
Rates below are for FS. The only exception would be Lea in Brandon with her successful 2 tier business model -.
Grade D (basically a SW with a room): 40-60 QV; 60-80 HHR (I don't do HR with a Grade D but might stay that long).
Grade C (non-SW): 60-80 QV; 80-120 HHR; 120-160 HR (I almost never schedule a full hour, although I've often spent multiple hours with girls on a HHR date without complaints or whining about the time; I almost always go around 30 minutes or longer on a QV).
Higher end is for BBFS and/or Greek (yes, I have gotten BBFS Greek CIA recently for 40 from Grade D and 80 from Grade C).
I never pay up front but might show the money. If they demand the money up front in their hands, I leave.
I don't really base my scale on time but on what I expect the experience to be like (vanilla, GFE, PSE, multiple positions, etc.).
I'm sure each of you have your own scale you apply. But, I think mine falls well within the industry "standards" for our area. It is also true that visitors from areas with higher average scales tend to overpay. I think the girls DO take advantage of these guys. I have never had an issue with my scale and if a girl complains or whines about the rate when setting up a date, I pass. Plenty of fish.
[QUOTE=TeamCommando;4897624]Your math is good but the premise is off. Hookers are not hourly wage workers despite advertising based on time. They are more like piece rate workers. In a piece rate scale, a worker gets paid for each article they produce, regardless of the "production" time involved. Productive piece rate workers earn more per day because they produce more product each day. Lazy workers, or unskilled workers earn less per day because they have less product output. So, each of these girls have a basic grasp of how much "product" they need to turn out each day to pay for their room, food, drugs, etc. Most are only motivated to be just productive enough to break even. They are not investing in a 401 K or saving up for a down payment on a house. LOL The cheaper the "piece rate" the higher the necessary volume required for a girl to survive every day. And, there is more time invested in a date than just the actual date. Most of us spend 30 - 60 minutes prior texting, etc. With a girl prior to arrival. I know, I know, they are probably texting and double or triple booking, but they are still investing time in their ultimate product. So, a straight per minute wage calculation is not applicable.
Having said all that, I do agree that there is a "standard" rate for most of the Grade C and D girls or SWs. My scale is my scale, usually, depending on how good looking the girl is and her skills:
SW: 20-40, BBBJ; 40-60 FS
Rates below are for FS. The only exception would be Lea in Brandon with her successful 2 tier business model -.
Grade D (basically a SW with a room): 40-60 QV; 60-80 HHR (I don't do HR with a Grade D but might stay that long).
Grade C (non-SW): 60-80 QV; 80-120 HHR; 120-160 HR (I almost never schedule a full hour, although I've often spent multiple hours with girls on a HHR date without complaints or whining about the time; I almost always go around 30 minutes or longer on a QV).
Higher end is for BBFS and/or Greek (yes, I have gotten BBFS Greek CIA recently for 40 from Grade D and 80 from Grade C).
I never pay up front but might show the money. If they demand the money up front in their hands, I leave.
I don't really base my scale on time but on what I expect the experience to be like (vanilla, GFE, PSE, multiple positions, etc.).
I'm sure each of you have your own scale you apply. But, I think mine falls well within the industry "standards" for our area. It is also true that visitors from areas with higher average scales tend to overpay. I think the girls DO take advantage of these guys. I have never had an issue with my scale and if a girl complains or whines about the rate when setting up a date, I pass. Plenty of fish.[/QUOTE]Nice work as, IMHO, fall in line with the average monger and not rich white male / pro athlete money. There are more outside factors, but you kind of nailed it. I do remember fucking Sarah Vandella before her career took off in porn (She is from my hometown). Therefore, her rates was not porn star price yet! Lc / Backpage usually don't command a high end price (always exception). I do agree on your 'time' and the piece rate. Nicely done.
Team Commando, I think your last post nailed it perfectly.
[QUOTE=ChaseStar;4898052]Team Commando, I think your last post nailed it perfectly.[/QUOTE]Price elasticity of demand; pussy is Relatively Elastic Demand.
Relatively elastic demand means that the quantity demanded of a good or service will be impacted by a price change in that good or service. Typically, a good or service is said to have high price elasticity when many substitutes for that good exists.
When the price for pussy with one girl goes up, we switch to a girl with a price we like.
Price elasticity of supply; hooker pussy is relatively inelastic: the quantity available does not change based on price. Generally there is not more pussy available because prices go up. Few of these girls jump into the market thinking they are going to strike it rich. The number of girls selling their pussy doesn't go down much, either, when the prices go down. The girls in the business just don't have the option to leave because the price is low. They just see more guys to make up the difference.
So what does that all mean? Pay what you are comfortable with and there will always be a girl available at that price. Sometimes it is easier to find one than at other times. You just have to put the work into it, do your research, cost compare, and bargain.
[QUOTE=Tattoo47;4897753]Nice work as, IMHO, fall in line with the average monger and not rich white male / pro athlete money. There are more outside factors, but you kind of nailed it. I do remember fucking Sarah Vandella before her career took off in porn (She is from my hometown). Therefore, her rates was not porn star price yet! Lc / Backpage usually don't command a high end price (always exception). I do agree on your 'time' and the piece rate. Nicely done.[/QUOTE]Great talent. Cute dimples. Spunky attitude. You're lucky to have hit that! If you have seen any of her interviews now that she's a "porn star", I'm impressed about how cool and down to earth she is, even with the "fame".
Love her quote: It's not like I always wanted to be a porn star. But I did always want to be a wh0re.
Amen to that!
[QUOTE=TeamCommando;4898114]Price elasticity of demand; pussy is Relatively Elastic Demand.
Relatively elastic demand means that the quantity demanded of a good or service will be impacted by a price change in that good or service. Typically, a good or service is said to have high price elasticity when many substitutes for that good exists.
When the price for pussy with one girl goes up, we switch to a girl with a price we like.
Price elasticity of supply; hooker pussy is relatively inelastic: the quantity available does not change based on price. Generally there is not more pussy available because prices go up. Few of these girls jump into the market thinking they are going to strike it rich. The number of girls selling their pussy doesn't go down much, either, when the prices go down. The girls in the business just don't have the option to leave because the price is low. They just see more guys to make up the difference.
So what does that all mean? Pay what you are comfortable with and there will always be a girl available at that price. Sometimes it is easier to find one than at other times. You just have to put the work into it, do your research, cost compare, and bargain.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more my friend.
C5.
[QUOTE=Tattoo47;4897753]Nice work as, IMHO, fall in line with the average monger and not rich white male / pro athlete money. There are more outside factors, but you kind of nailed it. I do remember fucking Sarah Vandella before her career took off in porn (She is from my hometown). Therefore, her rates was not porn star price yet! Lc / Backpage usually don't command a high end price (always exception). I do agree on your 'time' and the piece rate. Nicely done.[/QUOTE]I must congratulate you on fucking Sarah Vandella! Very well done! On another note, I honestly think we should try to organize or something guys. Maybe we could start a kik group or something. The only problem with that would be that many of these girls are not able to consistently pay their phone bills every month. Maybe we set a flat rate or 60-80 per fuck, take it or leave it? Most fucks don't even take an hr. And not too many people make 60+ dollars in an hr. In Germany, in the FKK clubs, the girls get like 50 euros for 30 mins if I remember correctly. I know that there are many girls out there who would love to be able to fuck a few of us a day and make 200+ a day when ever they want, and not have to deal with all the bs that comes with posting on listcrawler. The girls would be comfortable knowing that all the guys in the group are cool, not going to bullshit them and vise versa for us guys. We would only let a girls in the group who are cool and are DTF. I even know a few girls who don't post that might be interested in something like that.
[QUOTE=MongeringMicky;4896650]No face photos in her ad but trust me she's GTG. Really attractive face, thick body, cute manicured toes, no signs of candy use (nice teeth and she has all of them) and OMFG what a BBBJ. Her ad says no bravo, but I pre-arranged an o-natural session and she didn't stop until every potential piece of fatherhood I own for the next two weeks was safely in her mouth. You will not find a better BJ. Standard online rates apply.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52809121/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've had my eyes on this one. Pardon my ignorance but what is the "standard online rate"? What was her donation?
Nevermind. I saw her rates on some of her older ads. I will definitely see this one asap.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52843018/[/URL]#.
Anyone tried this one, a few comments on listcrawler and one brand new very short review. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SpringTurk;4898672][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52843018/[/URL]#.
Anyone tried this one, a few comments on listcrawler and one brand new very short review. Thanks.[/QUOTE]On my end, I blew off a date with her after she refused to procede without sending a picture. Pics are for high class screening, and the reports on this chick were she's hot, but not into it. And her pimp beats her so bad that one of our members has seen her new scars at the ER.
If you do see her please report back!
[QUOTE=SpringTurk;4898672][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52843018/[/URL]#.
Anyone tried this one, a few comments on listcrawler and one brand new very short review. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fluck her and her 100 rules. I'll take an average chic who'll give a sloppy bbj and let me nut in her mouth any day of the week over some money hungry trophy trick who gives zero fux if I get off as she sets her date timer.
Didn't know she had a pimp, but no surprise. All the more reason I don't do incalls. 100 percent of the time there is more going on than a date lets on, none of it good.
Beat so bad she ended up at the ER and still has scars? Someone needs to out the POS that did that to her. I'm sure she's no saint, but she doesn't deserve to be beat to a pulp.
[QUOTE=TeamCommando;4897624]Your math is good but the premise is off. Hookers are not hourly wage workers despite advertising based on time. They are more like piece rate workers. In a piece rate scale, a worker gets paid for each article they produce, regardless of the "production" time involved. Productive piece rate workers earn more per day because they produce more product each day. Lazy workers, or unskilled workers earn less per day because they have less product output. So, each of these girls have a basic grasp of how much "product" they need to turn out each day to pay for their room, food, drugs, etc. Most are only motivated to be just productive enough to break even. They are not investing in a 401 K or saving up for a down payment on a house. LOL The cheaper the "piece rate" the higher the necessary volume required for a girl to survive every day. And, there is more time invested in a date than just the actual date. Most of us spend 30 - 60 minutes prior texting, etc. With a girl prior to arrival. I know, I know, they are probably texting and double or triple booking, but they are still investing time in their ultimate product. So, a straight per minute wage calculation is not applicable.
Having said all that, I do agree that there is a "standard" rate for most of the Grade C and D girls or SWs. My scale is my scale, usually, depending on how good looking the girl is and her skills:
SW: 20-40, BBBJ; 40-60 FS
Rates below are for FS. The only exception would be Lea in Brandon with her successful 2 tier business model -.
Grade D (basically a SW with a room): 40-60 QV; 60-80 HHR (I don't do HR with a Grade D but might stay that long)..[/QUOTE]This is money bro. This should help out newbies and vets alike.
Your model is nearly identical to mine. I'm inclined to provide the environment so I have some additional policies (no drivers, no pics, no texting addresses of locations) that have served me well. What I've also found out is many girls are open to negotiating amounts in return for sure dates. From a provider's perspective it's hard to not push for a benji+ when only 5% of dates actually show up w / roses and daily she needs candy, shelter, rubbers and food (ok once a week. If you've spent any social time with a provider you'll know working their phone is a 24/7/365 job in itself on top of getting stuck and cum guzzling.
Again, well done brother.
[QUOTE=DrLickAClit2;4898347]I've had my eyes on this one. Pardon my ignorance but what is the "standard online rate"? What was her donation?[/QUOTE]Benji. HH, double that for an hour. I rarely list a donation because what she does for me today doesn't mean she'll do that for me or you tomorrow. I'd say she's a B provider with an excellent skillset. From some recent comms I fear GPS may be an issue. With that said, she's a spectacular date and not tough on the eyes at all (minus the dental, but my dick was in her mouth so).
[QUOTE=TampaHobby;4898865]On my end, I blew off a date with her after she refused to procede without sending a picture. Pics are for high class screening, and the reports on this chick were she's hot, but not into it. And her pimp beats her so bad that one of our members has seen her new scars at the ER.
If you do see her please report back![/QUOTE]Pimp blanket party ASAP. She does seem to have to many rules. Kind goes against earning potential. Perhaps her owner loosen up the rules she could earn more and save the beatings (assumption).
Posting up those bubble butt pics w no backdoor entry is just cruel LOL.