"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;1774179]I think your code of "do no harm" is not primitive at all and is a good yardstick to go by.[/QUOTE]OK, I'm dropping my deeper moral inquiry. I'm just going to fuck them. Thanks for helping me think through this dilemma.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;1774206]At that point, she has made a decision on something that she thinks is going to be in her best interest. If she is comfortable with that decision, then I would be okay with helping her meet her needs, while she helps me with mine (and these are needs, both physical and psychological). I assume that she is going to find someone, whether its me or someone else. A moralist would argue that I should take the high road and not use "somebody's going to to do it" as an excuse, but I think that is disingenuous. At a basic level everything everybody does is motivated by self interest, she is acting in hers and I mine, and if those interests intersect in the bedroom, that's great. I also know that I am going to treat her with kindness and respect (well, as much respect as one can muster while engaged in debauchery) and maybe not everyone else will. Bottom line if she is a willing and hopefully enjoying participant, I'm not concerned with her motivation. If she acts as though the choice she is making is a horrible burden, then I won't do it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's right. Thanks.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1774212]This is best used after she has had a couple of orgasms already. ***I would rather be in a hundred superficial relationships than have to endure the pain of some female giving me shit for any reason. And SB's that want to dish that shit out get booted to the curb before they can say "but what about my cel phone bill?"[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip and AMEN re enough with the female bs, there are too many alternatives.

Ms Young Mama Tarheel Tragedy has just allowed that we may indeed expand the m&g tomorrow to include intimacy as she has her utilities about to be cut off and needs some assistance. Ah this is a terrible life, all this young pussy. I better shut up and wait to see whether she is actually as hot as her pix and does indeed welcome Mr Johnson lovingly before I do any more talking about it. However right now she's got me worked up.

[QUOTE=Literal2;1773941]I am finding I really want to fuck my Motor City baby (7+, very wet girl) again. Once is not enough. The problem is we are so goddam sexually compatible someone is liable to get emotionally tangled! Not me I hope! Best cure for me is to fuck her a few more times to get her out of my system.[/QUOTE]I am modifying the prescribed cure: I'll fuck her a few more times AND I'll fuck a few other sugarbabes to be sure to get Motor City out of my system. That should do it.

This one passed through my net from July to October last year. Told me at the M&G she had no limits. Sort of true but she got pretty worn out after 3 hours of non-stop action. True 3 holer, would go back and forth in any combination with ease. Discussed going to an swinger club but never made it. I am in town only during the week and work days so evenings are dinner then desert. No time for clubbing around. But flaky, cancelled half the time and kept wanting me to take her to a strip club. Guess she had a thing for girls but so do I. $$ an evening and pleasant company. Eventually got side tracked and she stopped responding. Could go back but I moved on to younger stuff. She is early 30s. Which will be the subject of my next post. Got her in first few days on SA and she promptly cancelled her post so no idea if she has another outlet but never seen her on the others. SD4M, name your price. Where the same "gang" seem to come up. Great body. Butt was getting big but nice and tight. Just my kind

HG,

Once again with the tips. Dude you got this down to a science.

I too have reduced my quota down to my two main squeezes. And a backup sweetie that I classify as a booty call girl. I love them all. But I am married so I do not use the L word with them. All of them seem to be really into me. And they never try to hit me up for money or anything.

Things are pretty good right now.

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1774295]IS another orgasm technique that can be totally in your girl's control. All you have to do is lay there and enjoy having her stroke your penis until she cums. My ATF grinds her clit on my pubic bone (are) and screams her brains out. I like watching her boobs flop around while I catch my breath from orgasm 1 and 2. LOL.

ATF seems to be pulling away. I am so sad but she seems to have a major bipolar disorder and in her down state she doesn't want to do anything. Damn! There is ALWAYS something wrong with these girls. I guess if they were completely normal they wouldn't be looking for love in all the wrong places.

My problem is I put all my eggs in one basket and when that basket develops holes I am loveless in Seattle. Hopefully her meds will kick in and I will get her back in gear.

Had another GPS in DC. Hot looking spinner student of the Asian Nation who bolted when I expected sex for her allowance. Really? Are there guys out there impotent enough or stupid enough to pay a girl significant bucks to escort her to the mall and buy her shit without any tit for the tat? Just asking.[/QUOTE]My respectful guess is you are too nice a guy. Try multifucking maybe.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1774212]. Let her do all the repositioning. Let her to do most of the work. Just keep a steady rhythm. As she nears climax she may grab on tight and my force you more deeply into her. But make her be the one to do it. Only at the exact moment of orgasm should you thrust all the way in and just stay there. "[/QUOTE]This works in Doggie too.

Just had my overnight with MsLatinaMILF. This time I turned the music up and had the TV a little louder, that helped with some of the noise. At some point one of the positions was too much for her. Eventually we had an extended cowgirl ride. I did some driving but for the most part I let her lead. I'd just lay for a while, move a little here and there. She had 3 orgasms right there on top. For the last one as she got closer I lifted my torso up and held it for about 10 20 seconds, sent her through the roof. All in all a very good time. Only $ per meeting.

2 more STL POTS have responded. Both of these were are two with the 9.5 bodies....oh my. Slim and very Athletic. Things are looking good!

Great Pic Bondo!

BigTigg

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1772192]Scott, thanks for your helpful posts. I have a couple questions:

Do you book the room under the baby's real last name on hotels dot com and then prepay it with a credit card? When you arrive don't you have to show your drivers license before they give you the key? How do they know the lady wants you in her room?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I've been out of town and not near a computer, so am just getting around to reading all the excellent posts here! Lit, to answer your question, I print out the confirmation page, which has the reservation info, including the baby's name, and show that at check-in. I've never had anyone question my access to the room. When they ask for a name, I reply "It's under X", the baby's last name. Since the room is already paid for, they often don't ask for a license, just a credit card for incidentals. As I think about it now, I probably could use my sugar name when making the reservation on line as well, and now that I have a Green Dot card with that name attached as well, my tracks are further covered.

[QUOTE=F Scott;1774895]Sorry, I've been out of town and not near a computer, so am just getting around to reading all the excellent posts here! Lit, to answer your question, I print out the confirmation page, which has the reservation info, including the baby's name, and show that at check-in. I've never had anyone question my access to the room. When they ask for a name, I reply "It's under X", the baby's last name. Since the room is already paid for, they often don't ask for a license, just a credit card for incidentals. As I think about it now, I probably could use my sugar name when making the reservation on line as well, and now that I have a Green Dot card with that name attached as well, my tracks are further covered.[/QUOTE]Hey Scott, thanks for your reply. As I'm somewhat dim-witted I am proceeding slowly to a find the red dot for sale, buy it while minimizing personal info and figuring out how to reload it etc. I'll get there eventually.

Re hotels. This AM hotels dot com has a new (for me) mysterious option, which is no prepay but pay on checkout. Actually its not an option for the hotel I was looking at, it was the only way to book online. The reservation is still non cancellable. Previously hotels dot com always required payment in advance so no need to pay at check in or out, although last week they ran the credit card for incidentals processing a 10$ charge in advance, reversed after no incidental charges. Don't know how the new policy works exactly re checking out. Its so easy just to walk out knowing the bill is prepaid.

Re your alias. Scott, you are a sophisticated guy in many ways so do as you think best, but I would think long and hard about registering in a hotel under a false name. My assumption is it is against the law but I don't know for sure. Once you get on that side of leo, you have a whole bunch of potential adversaries who are more skilled and far more powerful than we are.

Just my opinion. Good luck.

Re myself, I do believe I will have my little cheerleaders ankles behind her ears in a few hours. Now I'm starting to worry she was too easy. At her request we will skip the m&g and proceed directly to the Fucking Chamber. Not such an amateur, I guess.

Oh well, whats the title of this thread again?

[QUOTE=Literal2;1774925]I would think long and hard about registering in a hotel under a false name. My assumption is it is against the law but I don't know for sure. Once you get on that side of leo, you have a whole bunch of potential adversaries who are more skilled and far more powerful than we are.[/QUOTE]A quick google search says it is illegal in New Hampshire, but apparently not in Illinois. Technically, I'm not checking in under a false name. While my Sugar Me paid for the reservation, if I am asked, I show my real license, so I'm not pretending to be Sugar Me.

As for Green Dot cards, I got mine at Walgreens. You can also get the reloading cards there as well. I'd say get a low value one to start, and see how it goes. I was surprised that it took my Sugar name, but I guess it ties it to a phone number, which was my burner cell, and an address, which was my work address. I would expect you could use a mail box, like the ones at the UPS store, as well, since it uses an actual street address, plus a box, and I would guess you could substitute the word "suite" for "box" and it would still go through.

Have fun with your cheerleader today!

Don't forget to write,

Scott

Into the fall I entered the bait and switch phase while trying early 20 YO. Several gals whose pictures didn't quite match the reality. SB5 was a waitress from SA who was convinced she needed an allowance. Sure but we start out P2P. Met her at an Applebees and should have backed out. About 25 lbs more than pics. But the Gentleman I am a deal is a deal. So dinner and back to the FC for the 3 hole circus. But she reneged on the 3rd option. Lousy BJ but supple and gave her a good pounding. No return calls after that.

SB6 was similar but had a spunky personality so better experience. Met for lunch and a bottle of wine at my place. Eventually dropped to her knees and got the party started. Turned out she loved anal so spent most of the afternoon in her ass. Excellent BBBJCIMWS. Young child so not as tight as could be. But really wanted a young thin one so moved on. Still hear from her occasionally so she is a back-up if times get really hard. Here's her pics. Should have known but maybe I was thinking too much with my little head. $

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1774986]A quick google search says it is illegal in New Hampshire, but apparently not in Illinois. Technically, I'm not checking in under a false name. While my Sugar Me paid for the reservation, if I am asked, I show my real license, so I'm not pretending to be Sugar Me.

As for Green Dot cards, I got mine at Walgreens. You can also get the reloading cards there as well. I'd say get a low value one to start, and see how it goes. I was surprised that it took my Sugar name, but I guess it ties it to a phone number, which was my burner cell, and an address, which was my work address. I would expect you could use a mail box, like the ones at the UPS store, as well, since it uses an actual street address, plus a box, and I would guess you could substitute the word "suite" for "box" and it would still go through.

Have fun with your cheerleader today!

Don't forget to write,

Scott[/QUOTE]Don't green dots ask for social security number.

I like all ages shapes and sizes as long as they get wet for my dick. This 20 YO SB has tremendous tits and loves it in every hole. It's a wonderful life.

[QUOTE=Bondo500; 1775032]Into the fall I entered the bait and switch phase while trying early 20 YO. Several gals whose pictures didn't quite match the reality. SB5 was a waitress from SA who was convinced she needed an allowance. Sure but we start out P2P. Met her at an Applebees and should have backed out. About 25 lbs more than pics. But the Gentleman I am a deal is a deal. So dinner and back to the FC for the 3 hole circus. But she reneged on the 3rd option. Lousy BJ but supple and gave her a good pounding. No return calls after that.

SB6 was similar but had a spunky personality so better experience. Met for lunch and a bottle of wine at my place. Eventually dropped to her knees and got the party started. Turned out she loved anal so spent most of the afternoon in her ass. Excellent BBBJCIMWS. Young child so not as tight as could be. But really wanted a young thin one so moved on. Still hear from her occasionally so she is a back-up if times get really hard. Here's her pics. Should have known but maybe I was thinking too much with my little head. $[/QUOTE]Bondo, not perfect but you are getting laid. Life is good.