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[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Explain what you are saying here.
You have been back, seen all the girls and know that for a fact AMY has not returned? Or you just called? And who is the "Unlike some here".[/QUOTE]
I made myself as clear as I will. I'll let MT take it from here, they seem to be active on the site. Or go yourself and report.
MnV
[QUOTE=MoonView]I made myself as clear as I will. I'll let MT take it from here, they seem to be active on the site. Or go yourself and report.
MnV[/QUOTE]
You didnt make yourself clear at all, actually it was a pretty vague statement.
So you are saying you are taking a shot at someone or some people but won't come right out and say who or what you are accusing them of posting that was NOT factual.
Been to MT many times. I like the place, never a bad experience. I don't know Amy, so I couldn't tell you one way or the other, girls often change their names frequently. I know a spa where the girls do not change, just every 90 days or the boss makes them pick new ones.
The Amy that you guys are referring to is NOT here as of yet. There is a different Amy here. It took me a while to figure out which one that everyone was referring to. Your guy's Amy might be back here in June (according to her) but even I can't promise that. Things could change.
Ken wrote. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. "
My response. I know the facts and I was there. Complain about service at the time of service is your best chance for success. Here too I understand but just get the facts straight because I will call you out on it. I am humble enough to admit wrong and I'll even apologize if need B.
Ken wrote. I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years.. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were both out the door in less than 30 minutes.
My response. The therapist didn't offer you a table shower is incorrect. You never want a table shower even when we offer. Before coming in we told you and your friend that there was only one girl at the time to take care of both of you and that the time would be shorter than usual and you agreed saying, "don't worry, it's me, it's ok, I understand". You knew coming in and now you complain. The higher tip issue I can't say but this particular girl I feel very comfortable doesn't do that. I have known her for too long.
Ken wrote. Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
My response. There are a few reasons why Amy is not here right now and Ken you know very well why since it is ALL related to you. I won't go into details unless you make me. Amy is a very good emloyee and I would be glad to have her back but things will change when she does; if she does. Don't worry guys this is just management stuff that will have absolutely no affect on your service.
Ken wrote. I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
My response. I do apologize or I even explain respectfully and sometimes even both.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]You didn't make yourself clear....[/QUOTE]
Mnv said that he called and was told that Amy left and will not be returning. This appears to be in direct contradiction to what MT said about her being back for some time. There are plenty of people on this board who make statements not based on fact. Mnv's assessment of that fact was accurate and not in need of remedy.
Frankly, $.4 is too much for FS. MT should recognize this fact and make sure his staff understands that to continue to raise prices and reduce services will cost the house and the therapist in the long run. We are in a deep recession. To raise tip prices by 40% overnight during a recession is ridiculous. Further, to say that $.4 is the going rate or is lower than average is, in fact, a lie. There will be a day when $.4 will be the going rate. But even if we were in double digit inflation, it wouldn't be any time soon.
I'd suggest that all parties to this discussion go to your respective corners and cool off. No one will benefit from furthering this argument and reflection on the state of the hobby may be the key to reconciliation.
AD
[QUOTE=Alpha D]
I'd suggest that all parties to this discussion go to your respective corners and cool off. No one will benefit from furthering this argument and reflection on the state of the hobby may be the key to reconciliation.
AD[/QUOTE]
Actual he did not make it clear who he was saying was making posts that were not factual. That is what I was requesting clarification on, not AMY's current status.
If he does not care to clarify it then he should not be making any such accusations, I am simply asking for him (he who posts based on FACT) to FACTLY state who he was refering to posting absent facts.
I am not trying to start any arguements here, I want to know who he was refering to, simple as that. Why? Because it seemed as though it was directed at me. So if you can answer for him then do so, if not, I will wait for him to respond.
IF someone wants to say someone else is posting something that is false, he should be man enough to say it, identify the party he is talking to/about and what he believes is inaccurate.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Because it seemed as though it was directed at me.[/QUOTE]
BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD
I feel the same way. I did not think MV was finger pointing.
[QUOTE=Alpha D]BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen much intel on Castle Spa, so figured I would TOFTT and give it a try. The entrance is not much, but the upstairs is very nice and clean. I drew Coco and she came in looking very fine. Off to the TS and she seemed to clean all the right spots quite a bit, and things were looking up. Back to the room and the the massage began. I don't think I have been rubbed repeatedly in the same spots as Coco did throughout the massage. She probably worked my arms at least 5 times, and she made sure she kept any roaming totally away.
She kept saying to be a good boy, and kept my hands by my side throughout. She probably massaged for at least 40 minutes. Then it sounded like she shed some clothing, and she began a rubbing massage on my lower legs and back. But I noticed it was very rough. She had on some type of rough courset or something that was pretty brutal on the skin. She asked for the flip, and she immediately went to a HE with denial of any roaming at all of any type.
Overall, she is a sexy lady, but her technique leaves a great deal to be desired, and she has basically no massage skills beyond rubbing the same spots repeatedly.
I would not return to this one. So I would put this one down as TOFTT.
[QUOTE=Alpha D]BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD[/QUOTE]
Exactly right and well said AD!
Regards,
MnV
[QUOTE=Magical Touch]The Amy that you guys are referring to is NOT here as of yet. There is a different Amy here. It took me a while to figure out which one that everyone was referring to. Your guy's Amy might be back here in June (according to her) but even I can't promise that. Things could change.
Ken wrote. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. "
My response. I know the facts and I was there. Complain about service at the time of service is your best chance for success. Here too I understand but just get the facts straight because I will call you out on it. I am humble enough to admit wrong and I'll even apologize if need B.
Ken wrote. I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years.. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were both out the door in less than 30 minutes.
My response. The therapist didn't offer you a table shower is incorrect. You never want a table shower even when we offer. Before coming in we told you and your friend that there was only one girl at the time to take care of both of you and that the time would be shorter than usual and you agreed saying, "don't worry, it's me, it's ok, I understand". You knew coming in and now you complain. The higher tip issue I can't say but this particular girl I feel very comfortable doesn't do that. I have known her for too long.
Ken wrote. Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
My response. There are a few reasons why Amy is not here right now and Ken you know very well why since it is ALL related to you. I won't go into details unless you make me. Amy is a very good emloyee and I would be glad to have her back but things will change when she does; if she does. Don't worry guys this is just management stuff that will have absolutely no affect on your service.
Ken wrote. I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
My response. I do apologize or I even explain respectfully and sometimes even both.[/QUOTE]
Amy was a fav of mine and a few others here, hope she really does come back to NoVA. In any event, good of you to clear this up.
MnV
[QUOTE=Cranberries]Is Amy at MT the same Amy from HWC?[/QUOTE]
Cberry,
Nope, but the one at HWC was nice too, I remember her well till all the busts started to happen and they finally closed down. She was a cutie!!
MnV
[QUOTE=Alpha D]BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
AD[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I read more into it then was intended, I took it as directed at me because it was a direct response to my post, and no I am not in the habit of posting lies. I have only posted what my experiences have been or have taught me. As always YMMV.
I personally tend to stay clear of generalized statements/comments like that for the very reason that I do not want anyone to unintentionally take offense.
Anyway looks like a beautiful day to visit an AMP..
Logged in the check the boards and there are two pages of y'all talking about who said what when and who is lying, and who is not and who is talking about who is lying, and whom someone actually meant was saying what and so on. Informative, I suppose, but....but now I am wondering which AMP is "MT"? There is lots of magic on CL, so it might be any of four places. PM with the name? I will go, enjoy (or not) and give fresh report.
Ok, I don't engage in back and forth on the boards. I try to stick to reporting the facts of my experiences.
This board is one of the few places I can be totally honest especially as a hobbyist. It's interesting to see a provider on here engaging us. I do feel that MT may be missing the opportunity to gain some goodwill with the team. Not to mention use the board as a way to become our preferred provider. Wouldn't that be neat..... "Magical Touch, official provider of USG". LOL
Anyway, this is the first and I hope last flame thread I've been a part of. I almost said "created", but MT created this all by him/her self.
My fellow hobbyist, keep up the good work. We share because we care. That's what's it's all about.
BigTigg
...is exactly right. I still wonder how MT stays open when all the others have been raided and caused untold grief to the guys trapped inside at the time.
Still too dangerous for me anyway but everyone can pick their own peril.
JJ
[QUOTE=BigTigger]Ok, I don't engage in back and forth on the boards. I try to stick to reporting the facts of my experiences.
This board is one of the few places I can be totally honest especially as a hobbyist. It's interesting to see a provider on here engaging us. I do feel that MT may be missing the opportunity to gain some goodwill with the team. Not to mention use the board as a way to become our preferred provider. Wouldn't that be neat..... "Magical Touch, official provider of USG". LOL
Anyway, this is the first and I hope last flame thread I've been a part of. I almost said "created", but MT created this all by him/her self.
My fellow hobbyist, keep up the good work. We share because we care. That's what's it's all about.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]