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She's very thin and brunette on SA she blocked me before I could cap her picture.

Scammer for sure 469 * 2278.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5089464]That's always my concern that it's just a scam to get free meals and cash for first dates. We need to post these girls pictures so it stops working for them.[/QUOTE]Meals and drinks I'm fine with. It's the entry fee to the game sometimes. But we should all draw the line and handing over cash without services being provided.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5088926]Generally $50 to $100 is fair, depending on the exact situation.

With covid most of my M&Gs have been grabbing lattes and talking in my car, and I think $50 is extremely generous for that.

I know some guys disagree, but I like M&Gs because it lets me filter out the Shamoos and chicks who are excessively and possibly dangerously psycho. Also, I find that a lot of girls chicken out if for the first date they need to go to a hotel and knock on the door of some dude they haven't met.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that some of you Bro's have gone down this rabbit hole! But lets set the record straight. You should never ever pay these girls for a M&G. You pay for services rendered. No service = no money. As a public service announcement if you are in the habit of doing this. Please STOP immediately. The thought of paying someone to just have dinner is absolutely absurd. I have had a few SB's try this. I told them not a chance in hell! Yes I will take you out to eat but allowance starts after we move to an intimate level.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5090394]Meals and drinks I'm fine with. It's the entry fee to the game sometimes. But we should all draw the line and handing over cash without services being provided.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaximusV;5091089]Sorry to hear that some of you Bro's have gone down this rabbit hole! But lets set the record straight. You should never ever pay these girls for a M&G. You pay for services rendered. No service = no money. As a public service announcement if you are in the habit of doing this. Please STOP immediately. The thought of paying someone to just have dinner is absolutely absurd. I have had a few SB's try this. I told them not a chance in hell! Yes I will take you out to eat but allowance starts after we move to an intimate level[/QUOTE]+ 1 . I have not, but would be open to. Time permitting. To have a dinner and drinks with a lady with the caveat that after that we head over to a room I have booked. But I would NEVER pay just for a M&G. I have been asked a lot of times and my main response back is - 'as mentioned in my profile. I am extremely busy and do this just to blow off steam. I do not usually do wine and dine as I just cannot get a slot of 3-4 hrs of free time to do a M&G and then proceed to a room. So if the real intent of this is for safety. I am willing to meet you somewhere public for a quick cup of coffee. After we are satisfied we can proceed to the room I have booked close by. Does that work for you love? Let me know. '.

This always works for me. The ones that do not agree, are probably not genuine, and I do not want to meet them anyway. Anyone serious about making some cash for a visit, will usually take this offer. One more thing, I usually build a rapport with the woman before inviting to see her. 1-2 days of texting. So she already realises that I am well spoken, well educated, only here for sex but am willing to be a regular if there is chemistry and will respect all of her boundaries and finally that I am not a chump. The last one is hardest. You need to have a fine balance between being firm and yet flexible to suggestions. I give her the impression that I am interested but will not bend my rules to see her. I. e. I am willing to walk away.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5089886]She's very thin and brunette on SA she blocked me before I could cap her picture.

Scammer for sure 469 * 2278.[/QUOTE]Do you remember her screen name?

Any experience?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e7b74dd7-6d77-4681-90bb-386b80f9563e[/URL]

I've been chatting with this one. She says in her profile that "membership was cancelled but I'm back" Wondering if anyone has any intel?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0ed5514c-b017-4429-8e96-48d616d2b852[/URL]

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5088639]What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.[/QUOTE]I'd pass. It's little text to determine if you're going to be a sucker they can keep on the line and slowly drain your bank account.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5091794]Any experience?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e7b74dd7-6d77-4681-90bb-386b80f9563e[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, we met online then went to text, good conversation but I don't know if she is really wanting to meet or know what she wants, she works 2. 5 jobs, she lives with her BF, actually lives close to me so I thought meeting would be easy, but no. She would need to come to you or you would need to get a hotel, I tried to get timing to work and couldn't. She also was starting at 300 which is a bit high for me but she looks nice.

The other thing is she said she quit birth control because she couldn't afford it.

Her BF also doesn't know what she is doing.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5092033]Yes, we met online then went to text, good conversation but I don't know if she is really wanting to meet or know what she wants, she works 2. 5 jobs, she lives with her BF, actually lives close to me so I thought meeting would be easy, but no. She would need to come to you or you would need to get a hotel, I tried to get timing to work and couldn't. She also was starting at 300 which is a bit high for me but she looks nice.

The other thing is she said she quit birth control because she couldn't afford it.

Her BF also doesn't know what she is doing.[/QUOTE]Too many red flags:

1. Rate too high.

2. Has a boyfriend.

3. Has a child.

4. Lives too close.

I'd pass, if I were you.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5092033]
Her BF also doesn't know what she is doing.[/QUOTE]I've never had one of these work out well when there was a BF in the scene. Whether they knew or not.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5091740]Do you remember her screen name?[/QUOTE]I think it was something Lynn.

Very skinny one of her pics she had on a big hat sorry I should have screen capped her profile.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5088639]What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5091949]I'd pass. It's little text to determine if you're going to be a sucker they can keep on the line and slowly drain your bank account.[/QUOTE]I never agree to paying for a M&G. If they are actually interested in an in person arrangement they should be willing to spend 30 minutes to see if you click. I always plan the M&G in a place that is convenient for her, that way there is no reason to ask for money for uber or gas.

[QUOTE=MartyByrde;5092063]Too many red flags:

1. Rate too high.

2. Has a boyfriend.

3. Has a child.

4. Lives too close.

I'd pass, if I were you.[/QUOTE]She isn't that close, I would have hit it if her schedule wasn't crazy and she wasn't on birth control.

I did have one that was close, met her, then the next day ran into her at the store, way too close.

[QUOTE=MrLarryDong;5087235]Hey guys,

Been checking this thread for about 6 months now and now have finally decided to make a SA account. I had to add my a pic of my face (which I consider to take down everyday due to paranoia) and that really made a difference. I'm just a relatively handsome POC so I'm shocked that I've been getting so many responses.

I opened the account last week and with my first 3 ladies I talked to, I went for coffee with one girl. It went really well but since then its been hard to get them on text. I get its a game and it involves getting them comfortable to talk about PPM but I feel like most girls (at the least the younger ones) don't understand the game and want a prince charming with 1000 PPM and shopping, dinner and drinks as well. So a question to you guys about that, is this common? I have a somewhat canned response to the girls that basically gets to the point of what I want (strictly sexual hangouts) and when I do, most girls just ghost, which is fine, doesn't hurt my feelings. But its starting to get overwhelming gaming girls down on chat only to start talking about PPM and then go radio silent.

Once we talk about PPM I say 200-300 which I seems like the standard from what I've been reading here but women apparently aren't biting on that. So another question is, how hot are these girls that you guys are paying 200 PPM for? So far all the girls I've been talking about are hot and young (under 30). Its fine if you guys never pay more than that but let's all be honest and say they're either old, fat or just not hot. Totally fine if that floats your boat, but so far I don't think the hot girls are taking that amount. I only have a week doing this and have been pretty aggressive with messaging girls that view me (not even favorites me) but I'm going to calm down a bit as its somewhat overwhelming. In a good way.

Will say though, fuck TNA. There's so many girls on this site that now when I look on TNA I get bored of seeing the same mediocre women. With SA, your in control and have so many options. SA feels like a mix of tinder and TNA, the only catch is $$ Definitely try it out if you're on the fence.[/QUOTE]You got the fishing part right. It can take some work to find a good SB. I went though several between my last and current SB. I find that being upfront about what my expectations are is helpful. I tell them "I want to meet at least once a week, same day and time, and I can do X per month paid in weekly installments after we get together for the evening. " where X is what I'm willing to pay per meet assuming we meet once a week. For me, that amount is 200-300 depending on travel expenses. I had to go throug several as while some were good with the price, if they jumped in to bed and split afterwards I didn't see them again. Eventually I found non-pros that didn't have insane expectations that also wanted to spend some time together.

My last SB was a unicorn. Nice college girl that wanted extra money and didn't want to work a job. She would sleep over several times a week because she didn't like her dormmate. Eventually she went back home to finish school there, and we're still in touch. My current SB is a lovely 20 something single mom that spends at least the evening with me, and likes to spend the night when she has a babysitter. For both SBs I do the same rate - 300 a week, which is 1200 a month.

For me, age hasn't been a factor. I've hooked and thrown back pros and wannabe pros of all ages, shapes and sizes. What I have found and stuck with are very attractive, fairly normal people that like to spend time on a personal level and don't want to be a professional sex worker. Maybe they are also a type of "hobbist?