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Didn't get her name. She was cute with a nice body. 40 for 30 minutes hf. Massage was okay but not much teasing. Flip brought the negotiations. 120 for BJ not sure if CBJ or BBBJ. I passed. Got a nice slow sensual HJ. Tipped 60 because it was a good HJ. She was amazed at the volume of my load. Probably won't return.
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With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.[/QUOTE]Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.
[QUOTE=CJamesTX85;6722933]Went today. 45 hf, got aimee, who seemed mid 30's, nice body, small ass. Massage was crazy, like super fast, not on time but her hand motions. I prefer the slow light touch on the tease but this was hi speed. On the flip wanted 100, I was like no way. Countered and she was like no, you new customer I do for 80 and I said no thanks. Put the towel over the now relaxing junior and proceeded to give leg massage. At end she come back an was like ok I do for you. I was no thanks tipped for the massage and left. At that point knew if I agreed it would be a rocket jack and I was already over it. Hit up dang on way home for eye candy but not much going on and smoke was even worse than normal and then saw kimmy on DD IG feed, so shitty day all around hahaha. Oh I texted the number again and she was like what you tell me who and I fire her now. That is too high. Whether she was serious or not, I wasn't about to say and potentially get someone fired. Again, I know not likely but just in case there was a small chance she was serious, not doing that a week before Christmas.[/QUOTE]Sad because Suphatras used to be a good place to get a great massage and a quick HE afterwards.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6723718]Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.[/QUOTE]Yep they are indeed open. Who's taking the plunge? Good time to go for you mongers that don't like waiting there.
[QUOTE=Periphery;6723575]Does this also apply to massage establishments that try to circumvent being a massage place by labeling themselves as a "spa", "acupuncture", etc?[/QUOTE]"Spa" is pretty much massage by definition. Sure there's "hair spas" and "nail spas" and such, but those are licensed professions in California, so you can't operate a "spa" of any type (strangely enough other than a massage spa) in California without going through the state board. There is no such thing as a massage license in California, therefore there is no state massage board. There is a civilian organization called California Massage Therapy Council (CAMTC). They issue massage certificates, and most cities require the certificate for MTs to operate within their city limits. It's sort of a license but not quite. They don't have the authority to regulate establishments. That falls on the cities.
There have been a lot of stories in the past of "chiropractic clinics" that were really fronts for MPs offering sexual services. In a lot of those cases it was someone operating under the license of a chiropractor who either retired or left the business. If they get busted and get their license revoked, no biggie, they're out of the business anyway. Same thing with acupuncturists.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6723857]There is no such thing as a massage license in California, therefore there is no state massage board. There is a civilian organization called California Massage Therapy Council (CAMTC). They issue massage certificates
[/QUOTE]In late 90's, pretty sure I visited Nikki's in downtown SF. I was so weirded out, the girl was wearing her I'd on a lanyard. I didn't look very hard, so couldn't make out what entity issued the I'd.
That was the only time I've personally seen that, not sure I've heard anyone mention that either?
OH, found this on the SF Department of Health site, so, guess now I know what I saw. City practitioner license.
As of January 2019, SF DPH no longer issues new licenses for Massage Practitioners.
Orange seems to have a provision for that.
1. A massage therapist shall wear or have on their person their massage therapist I'd issued by the State or the City. Such I'd shall be provided to City regulatory officials upon demand. The I'd shall bear the true name and any "aka" or nickname utilized by the massage therapist while performing massages.
Not sure what exactly this means, being the state doesn't issue licenses. Pretty sure, City of Orange isn't issuing some kind of I'd everytime a parlor is hiring a new employee.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6723911]In late 90's, pretty sure I visited Nikki's in downtown SF. I was so weirded out, the girl was wearing her I'd on a lanyard. I didn't look very hard, so couldn't make out what entity issued the I'd.
That was the only time I've personally seen that, not sure I've heard anyone mention that either?
OH, found this on the SF Department of Health site, so, guess now I know what I saw. City practitioner license.
As of January 2019, SF DPH no longer issues new licenses for Massage Practitioners.
Orange seems to have a provision for that.
1. A massage therapist shall wear or have on their person their massage therapist I'd issued by the State or the City. Such I'd shall be provided to City regulatory officials upon demand. The I'd shall bear the true name and any "aka" or nickname utilized by the massage therapist while performing massages.
Not sure what exactly this means, being the state doesn't issue licenses. Pretty sure, City of Orange isn't issuing some kind of I'd everytime a parlor is hiring a new employee.[/QUOTE]Some cities do issue their own MT licenses separate from the CAMTC certificate. As I mentioned, California is currently the only remaining state without a state massage license, so regulation of the profession is at the city level. SF, Costa Mesa, and Orange are three cities I'm aware of that issue their own photo IDs. Costa Mesa's massage ordinance even goes so far as to say the MTs must wear their city-issued photo IDs on the upper left hand side of their attire with the photo facing out. The licenses aren't tied to locations, they're just to practice massage within the limits of the issuing city.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6723943]Some cities do issue their own MT licenses separate from the CAMTC certificate. As I mentioned, California is currently the only remaining state without a state massage license, so regulation of the profession is at the city level. SF, Costa Mesa, and Orange are three cities I'm aware of that issue their own photo IDs. Costa Mesa's massage ordinance even goes so far as to say the MTs must wear their city-issued photo IDs on the upper left hand side of their attire with the photo facing out. The licenses aren't tied to locations, they're just to practice massage within the limits of the issuing city.[/QUOTE]Great info! Find it surprising that Orange / Costa Mesa as smaller cities has photo IDs.
I can see reasoning behind it, makes sense.
As always, Grimmy the resident expert with industry experience comes thru. Sure beats the collective anecdotal information that we all cobble together.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6723974]Great info! Find it surprising that Orange / Costa Mesa as smaller cities has photo IDs.
I can see reasoning behind it, makes sense.
As always, Grimmy the resident expert with industry experience comes thru. Sure beats the collective anecdotal information that we all cobble together.[/QUOTE]Had no idea. Anyone know what the most permissive / inattentive city / locale is in SoCal? I assume it would be a county area?
[QUOTE=Rocketron1006;6724038]Had no idea. Anyone know what the most permissive / inattentive city / locale is in SoCal? I assume it would be a county area?[/QUOTE]Grimmy is probably in the best position to answer this. He owns / operates one or more legitimate spas, presumably in this area.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6723718]Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.[/QUOTE]Any clue why they closed down in the first place?
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6723711]Hi,
Pics are fake. I am curious about JX Massage, they say mamasan has big tits there. Anyone had FS there?[/QUOTE]Nice private rooms, cheap FS milfs, been about a year but anything can be had at Jacks.
So I had a stressful day yesterday, so I decided to visit one of these spots. Ended up visiting both. Someone wrote that JX had mamasan w big tits, that was very promising I headed there. Mamasan had zero to none tits, was an average Chinese working girl and smelled bad. So I decided to hit 2nd spot which shocked me even more, I think this is a place with Miss Saigon that everyone was telling here, this was literally the weirdest AMP I've been during all my AMP career Everywhere they had a pic of an Asian chick with big boobs. And the front entrance said "we have franchise opportunities" Wondering what kind of franchise it is. But the most shocking thing was the price of $200 at the door, when asked why it is so high, I was answered that everything was included, again chick was an average Asian chick, that I would probably not bang in my daily life. Dear mongers, this is what happens when you overtip. Chicks start to have golden pussy syndrome $200 seriously?*.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6724108]Grimmy is probably in the best position to answer this. He owns / operates one or more legitimate spas, presumably in this area.[/QUOTE]The easy answer there is "any city that has a lot of MPs in it. " Westminster and Garden Grove come to mind. MPs tend to accumulate in certain areas for a reason. Some cities crack down hard and others take more of a laissez faire approach.
I lived in Downey for quite a few years. Not anymore. I left Downey 10 years ago. Downey has 5 or 6 MPs that have all been around for 30 years. A Downey cop told me once that they know full well what goes on in there. As long as they're not being a public nuisance or drawing complaints they just let them be. One of them is literally right across the street from a high school. The thinking there is they can go raid them and shut them down, but then they just drive the activity into the cheap motels in town where there's drugs and other insidious stuff going on and it's a lot harder to control. When it's in MPs it's contained and more or less harmless to the public as long as they mind their p's and q's and aren't trafficking.
And then there's cities like Irvine and Cerritos where all you have to do is fart in someone's general direction and the entire PD shows up. Costa Mesa is a huge pain in the ass even for legit massage establishments with rules so ridiculous they're impossible to comply with.
Note: I suggest we take any further discussion of this subject to the rants thread so as to not detract from reviews.
Yep.
She's at least as hot nekkid as your wildest imagination would have you believe. But she's got GPS beyond sanity. She'll do nuru with a nice HJ for 160, but I never found her price point for DATY, and she quoted 500 for FS (I almost wanted to call her bluff just to see her reaction).
Boditec is already well above the norm for pricing. I don't need to take out a loan for extras, even if she is the second-hottest thing I've set eyes on.
[QUOTE=EmaisaSlut11;6723445]Anyone seen the new Viet spinner here. I saw here as I was being escorted to the room by another girl there. Super small but curvy. Just wondering if anyone has experience with her. I might give her a go next visit. Just looking for some info on her first. Don't want to waste my time if no good.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]