Wow Tigger, nice roundup and you are bringing one in with you also.
I just did a trip out to the west coast and flew my ATF out to me and we had a blast. I forgot how many times we fucked but I was shooting air by the end.
Good luck,
Revvo
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Wow Tigger, nice roundup and you are bringing one in with you also.
I just did a trip out to the west coast and flew my ATF out to me and we had a blast. I forgot how many times we fucked but I was shooting air by the end.
Good luck,
Revvo
[QUOTE=Revvo; 1773729]Wow Tigger, nice roundup and you are bringing one in with you also.
I just did a trip out to the west coast and flew my ATF out to me and we had a blast. I forgot how many times we fucked but I was shooting air by the end.
Good luck,
Revvo[/QUOTE]Thanks Revvo.
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MsCutie 26 AA (9 / unknown / unknown / unknown)
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Preliminary Stats
Sent out 19 emails
7 Have not read the emails
12 Have read the emails
7 Have responded favorably
5 Have not responded at all.
The two with the lowest rankings responded first! Imagine that!
Broke up with the "little princess" yesterday (for the time being) and went straight to my bucket list. Dinner and a movie with a 21 y o HCG. Didn't talk money. Told her to come visit me at work. And I work alone at home. She is thicker than I am used to (mostly muscle 5'6" 140) but had a good personality. We flirted and kissed a little. Met her on SD4ME of course. Might be able to just civi date her. Either way its the same. Hand them the cash or go out and spend it. Tonites damage 40 dolllars for her end. I almost hate to just bang her once, but maybe I'll like her. I like any girl that can drive to my house with no time limits.
First of all, it's been a while since I posted but I read here everyday. There have been some nice pics up here in the last couple of weeks. Congrats to all of you! Most of debate of course revolves around emotional depth and involvement in our activities with these girls / women.
I don't know if any of you have done this before. I think someone of here mentioned it before, but I can't remember who? I put up a false young female profile on SD4ME. I did it to kind of check out the competition and to learn from their profiles and approaches. It has definitely helped out. I feel even more confident than I did before. 95% of these guys have zero game at all. It is also amazing how many emails have been pouring in from guys who claim (on their profile) to make 300k+ per year that haven't paud the monthly subscription so the potential SB can't even read their email much less respond to them.
It was bound to happen. I had two steady SB's for a stretch of 3 months. It was good and right in my budget. One graduated a couple of weeks ago and moved away. It was bitter sweet to see her go. We had some good times and she's a good kid. I hope she is happy in life! I'm left with one SB who is a 23 yr old blond HCB. I see her 2-3x per month at $125. She is fun in the sack but more of a semi-pro. It's pretty strictly almost business like. She is accommodating to my schedule and good in the sack. But there is very little inter personal interaction between our meetings. So I've been looking for another SB. It was bound to happen. I'm out to a M&G lunch with a pot SB. She is 28, very pretty but a little overweight. Her profile and pics clearly show that. So we are eating lunch a sweet old lady in her late 70's or early 80's comes up to the table and says."I know you you're (real first and last name) I'm good friends with your mother (her real name). How are you doing?" I was slightly taken a back. But I replied cordially and was charming and polite. We went on with our lunch. This restaurant was probably about a 30 minute drive from where I grew up. So much for deep cover! Anybody else have a similar story?
Good luck in STL BT.
Hollywood, great pic. Someday post more about the special aroma business as I'm curious.
I am finding I really want to fuck my Motor City baby (7+, very wet girl) again. Once is not enough. The problem is we are so goddam sexually compatible someone is liable to get emotionally tangled! Not me I hope! Best cure for me is to fuck her a few more times to get her out of my system. However, there is a downside to this. As I am getting her out of my system, it is likely she will become attached emotionally. This is because there are three major routes to a woman's affections. They happen to correspond to the three main categories of seducers.
1. Through the Woman's Brain. Most effective route but takes the highest order of game by the seducer. Rock Stars and Presidents are usually in this category, exuding charisma, wealth and power, the baby (indeed nearly every woman) wants to fuck them even before she meets them. If she succeeds, she is his emotionally and her labia will swell for him as long as he wants her.
2. Through the Woman's Heart. Second most effective route and second most skill intensive. The seducer convinces the baby she is special to him, words of love often come into play, a major skill required is the ability to project sincerity (a skill I lack). Sex is intense as long as the emotion lasts.
3. Through the Woman's Clitoris. Least predictable route and lowest order of seducer (this is where I am). Mechanical skill required is minimal, requiring only that seducer deliver intense sexual pleasure to the woman, mostly involving exercise of sole organ in either gender dedicated exclusively to eroticism. If pleasure is delivered repeatedly, the woman's emotions inevitably attach to the seducer without additional effort or accomplishment on his part. However, the seducer usually loses interest as the baby's attachment grows, leading to the risk of confrontation and unpleasantness.
Clearly the categories can intermingle.
The girl I had to postpone last week so I could fuck Motor City got her little sugar lump in the mail and now wants to meet this week. Her face is a 6, but I hope her body is as taut as it looks. Not sure if I'll have time for her, as I am leaving the area soon, but she is definitely ready to open her pussy for Literal.
The young NC Momma of tragic circumstances: I'm planning m&g tomorrow. I think I'll listen sympathetically and tell her I can help some but can't take care of everything and if she would like to get an example of the help I can offer, why don't we step across the street to my hotel room? If she does, I will fuck her silly and then leave town. If she doesn't, I haven't lost anything but a little time. After a week or two of noncommital texts she is now calling me endearments so I think her mind has accepted she will spread her legs and allow me vaginal penetration if she finds me at all attractive. It's a big age gap though so I'm skeptical.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1771986]It is good to see more pics on the board. I understand why we don't post more and I always worry a little with each one that I post. There are random jerks lurking on every thread, LOL. None the less, I enjoy seeing the pics that go with the stories. I am glad we can share, keep the woman's identity hidden and still gawk at some great photos.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]The Chinese were right. A Picture IS worth a thousand words. Here's two of my latest, a hot 19 YO spinner SB. She actually wouldn't mind her pics being identifiable on the internet. She aspires to be a porn star. Given my experience with her I would have to say she has a good shot at it. She is cute, petite, tight, photogenic and can suck and fuck with enthusiastic fun and vigor. That's a lot of value for a $ donation.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;1774045]The Chinese were right. A Picture IS worth a thousand words. Here's one of my latest, a hot 19 YO spinner SB. She actually wouldn't mind her pics being identifiable on the internet. She aspires to be a porn star. Given my experience with her I would have to say she has a good shot at it. She is cute, petite, tight, photogenic and can suck and fuck with enthusiastic fun and vigor. That's a lot of value for a $ donation.[/QUOTE]Very Nice. Luv dem hips!
Nice pix PTG. Cute pose too.
[QUOTE=Pats Fan1;1773915]I don't know if any of you have done this before. I think someone of here mentioned it before, but I can't remember who? I put up a false young female profile on SD4ME. I did it to kind of check out the competition and to learn from their profiles and approaches. It has definitely helped out. I feel even more confident than I did before. 95% of these guys have zero game at all. It is also amazing how many emails have been pouring in from guys who claim (on their profile) to make 300k+ per year that haven't paud the monthly subscription so the potential SB can't even read their email much less respond to them.[/QUOTE]I have helped a few girls by creating their profile and then having them give me their UN and PW. Very informative.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1772671]So with the morning texts / emails from the sbs my 21 yo NC cheerleader tells me she's really a couple years older and in tragic circumstances. She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. She wants to meet. Her pix are demure but if she's anything like them she is a very cute girl with lovely large breasts. No sign she's a dancer but she could be and I won't be surprised.
So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. We've agreed to an m&g later in the week.
In a way, if she is or was a stripper and the tale of the sick daughter is just BS, I'd be relieved. Then she's just scamming for sugar and I'll likely oblige so Mr Johnson can poke her cervix for a while.
But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child?
Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."[/QUOTE]I have just about heard it all. When anyone you know has an inkling you have spare cash they will put the arm on you for any reason whatsoever. SBs are no exception. I have had requests to pay tuition for the semester, for a move out of an abusive situation, hospital bills for mother / father / son / daughter / brother / sister and even to pay for an abortion because the bf knocked her up (at least she didn't try extorting me for that). There is an absolutely endless demand for charity out there. I am not a bad person but my piggy bank is also not bottomless. I think your code of "do no harm" is not primitive at all and is a good yardstick to go by.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;1774179]I have just about heard it all. When anyone you know has an inkling you have spare cash they will put the arm on you for any reason whatsoever. SBs are no exception. I have had requests to pay tuition for the semester, for a move out of an abusive situation, hospital bills for mother / father / son / daughter / brother / sister and even to pay for an abortion because the bf knocked her up (at least she didn't try extorting me for that). There is an absolutely endless demand for charity out there. I am not a bad person but my piggy bank is also not bottomless. I think your code of "do no harm" is not primitive at all and is a good yardstick to go by.[/QUOTE]At that point, she has made a decision on something that she thinks is going to be in her best interest. If she is comfortable with that decision, then I would be okay with helping her meet her needs, while she helps me with mine (and these are needs, both physical and psychological). I assume that she is going to find someone, whether its me or someone else. A moralist would argue that I should take the high road and not use "somebody's going to to do it" as an excuse, but I think that is disingenuous. At a basic level everything everybody does is motivated by self interest, she is acting in hers and I mine, and if those interests intersect in the bedroom, that's great. I also know that I am going to treat her with kindness and respect (well, as much respect as one can muster while engaged in debauchery) and maybe not everyone else will. Bottom line if she is a willing and hopefully enjoying participant, I'm not concerned with her motivation. If she acts as though the choice she is making is a horrible burden, then I won't do it.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1773638]Since you are considering dropping her anyway. Just remind her of the link between FC and Money. LOL. You can be subtle."You know if our relationship were a little further along, I could be more comfortable helping with those bills". At least since you were considering letting her go, you have nothing to lose. I had to do this with one of mine, even gave her some other hints of things she needed to do and she got on board.
BT.[/QUOTE]I did just that. She told me that she has a three date rule, and she is trying to get to the third date. I think I'm going to give her that much time and then either close the deal or not.
Relative to the "moral dilemma" post, a couple of hours after I gave her this little push, I texted her again and apologized for pressuring her, and told her I wanted her to be comfortable (which is true, its no fun to fuck someone who is not into it). I explained that I was just very much into her. She thanked me and told me she didn't feel pressured. So, message sent, received and we've rescheduled dinner for this week.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1773941]1. Through the Woman's Brain. Most effective route but takes the highest order of game by the seducer. Rock Stars and Presidents are usually in this category, exuding charisma, wealth and power, the baby (indeed nearly every woman) wants to fuck them even before she meets them. If she succeeds, she is his emotionally and her labia will swell for him as long as he wants her.
2. Through the Woman's Heart. Second most effective route and second most skill intensive. The seducer convinces the baby she is special to him, words of love often come into play, a major skill required is the ability to project sincerity (a skill I lack). Sex is intense as long as the emotion lasts.
3. Through the Woman's Clitoris. Least predictable route and lowest order of seducer (this is where I am). Mechanical skill required is minimal, requiring only that seducer deliver intense sexual pleasure to the woman, mostly involving exercise of sole organ in either gender dedicated exclusively to eroticism. If pleasure is delivered repeatedly, the woman's emotions inevitably attach to the seducer without additional effort or accomplishment on his part. However, the seducer usually loses interest as the baby's attachment grows, leading to the risk of confrontation and unpleasantness.[/QUOTE]All this posting is taking away from my work. LOL. But the ROI on the intel is worth it.
1. We should all be so lucky. But certainly a nice house, car and a well maintained appearance don't hurt.
2. I have found this to be very important and although many times required (to get optimal sexual performance) , somewhat disingenuous on my part, most of but not all of the time.
3. I rarely kiss and tell in detail. And I don't know if this is the thread to do that. But I am going to give away one sex trick. It may or may not work for you. But when it does, it's like hitting a grand slam. And guaranteed to impress. And if you date girls that think with their pussy it's a sure way to hook them for some length of time. Everyone knows or believes that direct clitoral stimulation will usually satisfy the most effectively and easily.
But try the opposite approach. This works best in mish. The idea is to postion yourself so there is absolutely no physical contact between you and your partner except your dick in her pussy. Do not touch her at all with your hands, arms, legs or stomach. Do not thrust in all the way, do not make any direct contact with her clit. Only you sliding in and out of her in the smoothest possible position. She will naturally flow with this position. After a couple of minutes tell her to just think of you as her personal sex toy. She will close her eyes. Let her dictate the rhythm. As she gets closer to orgasm she may grab on to you. I repeat. Do not touch her. Let her do all the repositioning. Let her to do most of the work. Just keep a steady rhythm. As she nears climax she may grab on tight and my force you more deeply into her. But make her be the one to do it. Only at the exact moment of orgasm should you thrust all the way in and just stay there. At which point you may or may not want to hold her or kiss her. Depending on how insistent she is.
This is best used after she has had a couple of orgasms already. Like I said before this will not work on every woman, but when it does she will consider you in the highest sexual regard. You have now literally controlled her with your dick and dick alone. This embeds a powerful message to her brain and body. As bullet points 1 and 2 may not be possible or take time to establish. The best way to quickly secure the bond with the SB is going to be # 3 with a little sugar on top.
Another reason this technique works is that a primary reason for a womans failure to orgasm easily and repeatedly is (sometimes) distraction of any kind. This allows her to focus on one thing and one thing only.
Overall I have come to see sugar dating as just, above average looking women, dating above average spending men. Remember, it's never really about how much money, time, understanding or dick you have, but only about how much you are willing to give. My primary goal (and maybe yours too) is to have the best sex of my life. I like all the gf stuff too. But when I see a movie and couples are fighting, I just cringe. I am NEVER going back to anything like that. I would rather be in a hundred superficial relationships than have to endure the pain of some female giving me shit for any reason. And SB's that want to dish that shit out get booted to the curb before they can say "but what about my cel phone bill?"
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1774212]All this posting is taking away from my work. LOL. But the ROI on the intel is worth it.
1. We should all be so lucky. But certainly a nice house, car and a well maintained appearance don't hurt.
2. I have found this to be very important and although many times required (to get optimal sexual performance) , somewhat disingenuous on my part, most of but not all of the time.
3. I rarely kiss and tell in detail. And I don't know if this is the thread to do that. But I am going to give away one sex trick. It may or may not work for you. But when it does, it's like hitting a grand slam. And guaranteed to impress. And if you date girls that think with their pussy it's a sure way to hook them for some length of time. Everyone knows or believes that direct clitoral stimulation will usually satisfy the most effectively and easily.
But try the opposite approach. This works best in mish. The idea is to postion yourself so there is absolutely no physical contact between you and your partner except your dick in her pussy. Do not touch her at all with your hands, arms, legs or stomach. Do not thrust in all the way, do not make any direct contact with her clit. Only you sliding in and out of her in the smoothest possible position. She will naturally flow with this position. After a couple of minutes tell her to just think of you as her personal sex toy. She will close her eyes. Let her dictate the rhythm. As she gets closer to orgasm she may grab on to you. I repeat. Do not touch her. Let her do all the repositioning. Let her to do most of the work. Just keep a steady rhythm. As she nears climax she may grab on tight and my force you more deeply into her. But make her be the one to do it. Only at the exact moment of orgasm should you thrust all the way in and just stay there. At which point you may or may not want to hold her or kiss her. Depending on how insistent she is.
This is best used after she has had a couple of orgasms already. Like I said before this will not work on every woman, but when it does she will consider you in the highest sexual regard. You have now literally controlled her with your dick and dick alone. This embeds a powerful message to her brain and body. As bullet points 1 and 2 may not be possible or take time to establish. The best way to quickly secure the bond with the SB is going to be # 3 with a little sugar on top.
Another reason this technique works is that a primary reason for a womans failure to orgasm easily and repeatedly is (sometimes) distraction of any kind. This allows her to focus on one thing and one thing only.
Overall I have come to see sugar dating as just, above average looking women, dating above average spending men. Remember, it's never really about how much money, time, understanding or dick you have, but only about how much you are willing to give. My primary goal (and maybe yours too) is to have the best sex of my life. I like all the gf stuff too. But when I see a movie and couples are fighting, I just cringe. I am NEVER going back to anything like that. I would rather be in a hundred superficial relationships than have to endure the pain of some female giving me shit for any reason. And SB's that want to dish that shit out get booted to the curb before they can say "but what about my cel phone bill?"[/QUOTE]I LOVE your sex trick. You are one great contributor here, a lot of value added.
IS another orgasm technique that can be totally in your girl's control. All you have to do is lay there and enjoy having her stroke your penis until she cums. My ATF grinds her clit on my pubic bone (are) and screams her brains out. I like watching her boobs flop around while I catch my breath from orgasm 1 and 2. LOL.
ATF seems to be pulling away. I am so sad but she seems to have a major bipolar disorder and in her down state she doesn't want to do anything. Damn! There is ALWAYS something wrong with these girls. I guess if they were completely normal they wouldn't be looking for love in all the wrong places.
My problem is I put all my eggs in one basket and when that basket develops holes I am loveless in Seattle. Hopefully her meds will kick in and I will get her back in gear.
Had another GPS in DC. Hot looking spinner student of the Asian Nation who bolted when I expected sex for her allowance. Really? Are there guys out there impotent enough or stupid enough to pay a girl significant bucks to escort her to the mall and buy her shit without any tit for the tat? Just asking.