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		[QUOTE=LofterB;5626539]Been at this hobby for almost 3 months now with experiences ranging from the worst of the worst (smokers, catch fish, time wasters and time rushers) to some unforgettable experiences (wet slits realizing the true power of the almighty dollar) My question that I must ask is how to get the most out of my money and time?
 
 I've come to see that one some of these girls aren't attentive to there phones whereas some will reply within minutes, some half hours time, some hours and even days many not at all LOL (I know pot dealers with more punctuality then these women). I also have been told because of my age (27) that I won't be seen at night which is a kick in the nuts might as well just say no altogether. How is it that the best providers only work 9 to 5 or 6? WTF is that all about aren't majority of there clients working class?. Not to mention it seems like unless setting up an apt a day or two in advance I'm probably not going to see the provider I'm most interested in and honestly if I'm trying to get my rocks off I want to do it today not 2-3 days from now. I've been using primarily list crawler to find providers and as many of you know there's plenty of spam and scam posts on there as well and 70% of the legit women on there I'll pass on. I can't even watch porn the same because of this hobby.
 
 How do you pro mongers deal what's your typical strategy or methodology to less let downs and more come ups?[/QUOTE]" to some unforgettable experiences (wet slits realizing the true power of the almighty dollar)".
 
 Perhaps, if you share details here of your "unforgettable experiences", a lot of season mongers will give you answers to your concern.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=BiscayneOG;5624672]I haven't mongered in a few months.
 
 About 2 weeks ago, I saw Chloe. The date was really really good, but I won't be seeing her again for other reasons.
 
 [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/69865397[/URL]
 
 This week I'll be taking a mini stay-cation at home, drinking lots of water, and making sure I am feeling good.
 
 Feel free to ask me any questions.[/QUOTE]It looks like UTI.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=LofterB;5626539]Been at this hobby for almost 3 months now with experiences ranging from the worst of the worst (smokers, catch fish, time wasters and time rushers) to some unforgettable experiences (wet slits realizing the true power of the almighty dollar) My question that I must ask is how to get the most out of my money and time?
 
 I've come to see that one some of these girls aren't attentive to there phones whereas some will reply within minutes, some half hours time, some hours and even days many not at all LOL (I know pot dealers with more punctuality then these women). I also have been told because of my age (27) that I won't be seen at night which is a kick in the nuts might as well just say no altogether. How is it that the best providers only work 9 to 5 or 6? WTF is that all about aren't majority of there clients working class?. Not to mention it seems like unless setting up an apt a day or two in advance I'm probably not going to see the provider I'm most interested in and honestly if I'm trying to get my rocks off I want to do it today not 2-3 days from now. I've been using primarily list crawler to find providers and as many of you know there's plenty of spam and scam posts on there as well and 70% of the legit women on there I'll pass on. I can't even watch porn the same because of this hobby.
 
 How do you pro mongers deal what's your typical strategy or methodology to less let downs and more come ups?[/QUOTE]If you want some sort of consistency you may have to go with established providers and agencies. Even then you will have occasional bad experiences.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=LofterB;5626539]Been at this hobby for almost 3 months now with experiences ranging from the worst of the worst (smokers, catch fish, time wasters and time rushers) to some unforgettable experiences (wet slits realizing the true power of the almighty dollar) My question that I must ask is how to get the most out of my money and time?
 
 I've come to see that one some of these girls aren't attentive to there phones whereas some will reply within minutes, some half hours time, some hours and even days many not at all LOL (I know pot dealers with more punctuality then these women). I also have been told because of my age (27) that I won't be seen at night which is a kick in the nuts might as well just say no altogether. How is it that the best providers only work 9 to 5 or 6? WTF is that all about aren't majority of there clients working class?. Not to mention it seems like unless setting up an apt a day or two in advance I'm probably not going to see the provider I'm most interested in and honestly if I'm trying to get my rocks off I want to do it today not 2-3 days from now. I've been using primarily list crawler to find providers and as many of you know there's plenty of spam and scam posts on there as well and 70% of the legit women on there I'll pass on. I can't even watch porn the same because of this hobby.
 
 How do you pro mongers deal what's your typical strategy or methodology to less let downs and more come ups?[/QUOTE]Really it's a crapshoot unless she's well reviewed and the quality has only gone down and gotten more scarce since Backpage went down. I think the best route to go if you're trying to have consistent experiences is to become a regular with girls you like. But even then these chicks are so unreliable that you could have a ton of good sessions and she still might get weird at some point or think you're someone they can get more out of. If you want variety you're going to have to keep taking chances and some of them will be misses, it's just the game.
 
 For me I don't really like seeing girls too many times, I don't like them getting comfortable or having familiarity with me but since so many girls are trash I've gotten a lot pickier with who I see. One thing I've noticed is that the REALLY good ones post every once in a blue moon or once and you never hear from them again. The girls that post every day are likely dead inside lmao.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=BiscayneOG;5624672]I haven't mongered in a few months.
 
 About 2 weeks ago, I saw Chloe. The date was really really good, but I won't be seeing her again for other reasons.
 
 [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/69865397[/URL]
 
 This week I'll be taking a mini stay-cation at home, drinking lots of water, and making sure I am feeling good.
 
 Feel free to ask me any questions.[/QUOTE]Any unprotected activities?
 
 
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		[QUOTE=HDMurdock;5626902]" to some unforgettable experiences (wet slits realizing the true power of the almighty dollar)".
 
 Perhaps, if you share details here of your "unforgettable experiences", a lot of season mongers will give you answers to your concern.[/QUOTE]If you look at my post history I have but all I get in return are newcomers asking me for contact info that's still in the post smh.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=BiscayneOG;5624672]I haven't mongered in a few months.
 
 About 2 weeks ago, I saw Chloe. The date was really really good, but I won't be seeing her again for other reasons.
 
 [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/69865397[/URL]
 
 This week I'll be taking a mini stay-cation at home, drinking lots of water, and making sure I am feeling good.
 
 Feel free to ask me any questions.[/QUOTE]I DM'd you to no reply let's us know what's what.
 
 
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		Loira 
		Just wondering any other reviews of Loira?? To confirm real? GFE? Safe? TIA.
 
 [QUOTE=JRam49;5564359]Hi,
 
 First off-Loira is a knockout. Outstanding performance and personality. Tits are a 10. Did hh and was worth it! Would def repeat.
 
 [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/67742616[/URL]
 
 Looking for Intel on this one.
 
 [URL]https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/67701143[/URL]
 
 If anyone has seen her I am happy to trade some more Intel on above average Latinas I have seen.[/QUOTE]
 
 
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		Is this legit ? 
		[URL]https://ft-lauderdale.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/fort-lauderdale-asian-korean-w/496972805761[/URL] 
 
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		[QUOTE=JslJr;5627988][URL]https://ft-lauderdale.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/fort-lauderdale-asian-korean-w/496972805761[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL, really? 100% you won't get the girl in the pics. 
 
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		This is a forum for all of us to share our experiences. Just be clear about what went down during an "Unforgettable Experience".
 
 Now to answer your question, it's really a hit or miss situation. True mongers take the leap and try one out and then let the others know. That's what this forum was intended for. However it's become just a place for rookies to ask if someone has tried someone out. Take the leap and try it out. That's what I do.
 
 [QUOTE=LofterB;5627443]If you look at my post history I have but all I get in return are newcomers asking me for contact info that's still in the post smh.[/QUOTE].
 
 
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		Loira 
		[QUOTE=Dragon527;5627969]Just wondering any other reviews of Loira?? To confirm real? GFE? Safe? TIA.[/QUOTE]Also goes by Laura. She is very sweet and terrific service. I agree she has tremendous tits, and a great attitude. Great value at $140 HH. She is slightly heavy, but not enough to really detract. She is run by an agency and typically her ad goes up right before she works-- around 3 PM on pretty random days. 
 
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		[QUOTE=LofterB;5627448]I DM'd you to no reply let's us know what's what.[/QUOTE]Ditto. Same with me. 
 
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		[QUOTE=LofterB;5626539]Been at this hobby for almost 3 months now with experiences ranging from the worst of the worst (smokers, catch fish, time wasters and time rushers) to some unforgettable experiences (wet slits realizing the true power of the almighty dollar) My question that I must ask is how to get the most out of my money and time?
 
 I've come to see that one some of these girls aren't attentive to there phones whereas some will reply within minutes, some half hours time, some hours and even days many not at all LOL (I know pot dealers with more punctuality then these women). I also have been told because of my age (27) that I won't be seen at night which is a kick in the nuts might as well just say no altogether. How is it that the best providers only work 9 to 5 or 6? WTF is that all about aren't majority of there clients working class?. Not to mention it seems like unless setting up an apt a day or two in advance I'm probably not going to see the provider I'm most interested in and honestly if I'm trying to get my rocks off I want to do it today not 2-3 days from now. I've been using primarily list crawler to find providers and as many of you know there's plenty of spam and scam posts on there as well and 70% of the legit women on there I'll pass on. I can't even watch porn the same because of this hobby.
 
 How do you pro mongers deal what's your typical strategy or methodology to less let downs and more come ups?[/QUOTE]This is a good question, but in order to answer this question there is a lot to discuss and unpack, let me tell you what I have learned through my own trial and error in hopes that it may help you. First of all, we're the same age, and I have absolutely no problem seeing girls at night so that isn't really your issue. There are a lot of red flags, as well as green flags to look out for when debating if you should see a provider, all of these red flags don't mean you shouldn't see someone, but they are things to keep in mind when discussing donations and knowing if the donation is worth it,* Some of the red flags to look out for are: 1. Location; girls working out of known run down notels asking for a high donation, big red flag, if she's at a motel 6, or a super 8, woodspring suites, or a la quinta or something of that sort and she's asking for an outrageous donation, would probably be a good idea to not do it, not saying those girls are always bad, I've had good experiences at a motel 6 before, but make sure if you're testing the waters you opt for a qv and try to throw 60-80 out at them, just incase if it is bad, you don't walk away to down. A girl who has a private residence as an incall is usually a good sign, or can do an outcall to you and drives herself, driving herself is a big must for outcalls, because if someone else is taking her, then she is probably conscious that person is waiting for her the whole time and probably doesn't want to take her time, her having her own vehicle is a good sign, if she doesn't, a driver can also be another word for a handler, if you opt for outcall make sure you verify she's driving herself, don't give your exact address, give one nearby, and look out to see if you see her getting out of the vehicle after she parks or if someone is dropping her off, if she told you she's driving herself and you see someone else dropping her off you're better off saying no thanks and walking away, doesn't always mean its a guaranteed good time if otherwise, but starting with her own place or own vehicle you may be able to assume that she atleast has her shit together. 2. Multiple girls sharing a room, girls sharing a room means they are trying to save on hotel costs, if its a residence it can also be bad, if they are both in there, then they are constantly getting calls and texts, meaning the door is opening and closing as much as a 711, which means that no matter what you opt for, qv, hh,hr, you're going to get the same amount of time, probably 5-10 minutes before they are trying to get you out because their roommate or roommates double booked. This is also a red flag because it can mean there is a handler behind the scenes 3. Communication skills; again, this isn't ALWAYS an indication of a bad time, but it gives you a good idea, if she's responding to you every half hour, doesn't seem reliable, or if you message her and then she gets back to you the next day, could mean there is candy or dog food use at play and that can be a no no, girls who are also not good at answering questions and constantly reply with one word answers, or don't seem to have the mental ability to fully reply to you or answer your questions, probably means she doesn't care that much and she's not gunna care when she sees you either. Providers who are able to hold conversations and sound educated are usually better than white girls who type like dis an say k and you and please and type like they are in 6th grade, specially if she's a white girl but acts like she's from the hood. 4. Being able to tell if theres a handler at play, sometimes going through listcrawler you will see multiple girls with the same location, same description, same everything and if you can pick up on that it usually means there is someone in charge of them behind the scenes, lets not get confused, the mario coins are ALWAYS the motivator with these girls but what they are using the mario coins for goes a long way, handlers have a grip on these girls because they make them the mario coins, and the handler provides them with the candy in exchange, every once in a while you do find a diamond in the rough that may like you more than other clients and may actually enjoy what she does, and only does it to actually make a living for herself although that doesn't mean it isn't about the mario coins, but those are better to see than the ones who just want the donation and for you to get out. If you call a girl and a guy answers, probably a handler, has happened to me before. 5; Google is your best friend in this hobby, copy the number, paste it into google and search it, sometimes you can find out a lot about a girl by doing so, if you're on listcrawler and hold your finger down on a photo you should see an option that says something along the lines of "search for this image on google" and that option can be a lifesaver, in searching for girls this way while doing research you can find reviews, posts they have made in other cities, other numbers they have used, which can tell you a lot, a lot of the times these girls get a bad rep in ine place so they leave that place and go to another under a new alias with a new number but searching for the image can pull that up and bring up a lot of what they don't want you to see. 6; A lot of mongers say this, sometimes it can be inevitable, but try your best to not give the donation upfront, if you give the donation to her and she goes to the bathroom as soon as she has it, I can almost guarantee you you are going to have a bad time, if she won't do it without you providing the donation, just see if you can put it down somewhere without actually handing it to her, some of these girls will be sweet and great till you give them that and then as soon as they have it it can all go downhill from there but dint you ever, ever EVER dare fall for a "let me just get the donation so I can give it to my friend and or driver" type of deal I can almost guarantee you will not see that girl again. 7; This is the obvious one, reviews, I wouldn't put all your eggs in the basket for reviews and or comment section on listcrawler, this is because listcrawler allows just about anyone to make an account unless their IP address has been flagged previously, I've had situations where I read reviews or comments in listcrawler that said she was a 10/10 so I saw her and ended up being a rip off, this is because she made miltiple accounts, or her friends made accounts, or her handler, and posted bogus comments and reviews just to get guys to see her. This forum really is the best one, if you want to see if you can find something about a girl quick on here, go to advanced search, type in the name you see her go by on the ad, and filter where you're searching in from all forums to the place the ad is located in and hit search, and you may find out a lot of useful info, another good tool is the website escortindex, that website keeps a database of all the posts posted everyday on every different site and also matches picutres to similar pictures from different posts in different places that provider may have used in the past and has been a very helpful tool for me. 8; Too many no's or too much yes in the ad, no this, no that, no nothing, means she's probably just gunna give you the dead fish treatment, and yet some of those girls have the audacity to ask for 100 mario coins and up, same on the flip side though, if she just agrees to everything, that's a red flag and could very well be a set up, its one thing to be freaky its another to have atleast some self respect and preferences, specially if she advertises doing everything, that's probably a girl you want to stay away from for many reasons. 9; don't be afraid to walk away. This was something that took me a while to get the hang of, but if you get somewhere and you're not liking the vibe, you don't like something you see on the girl, do yourself a favor and leave, sometimes these girls can be manipulative and will try to convince you to stay but I promise you if you go with your gut feeling you will 9 times out of 10 be happy you did.
 
 
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		Great book 
		[QUOTE=Pawgs;5629429]This is a good question, but in order to answer this question there is a lot to discuss and unpack, let me tell you what I have learned through my own trial and error in hopes that it may help you. First of all, we're the same age, and I have absolutely no problem seeing girls at night so that isn't really your issue. There are a lot of red flags, as well as green flags to look out for when debating if you should see a provider, all of these red flags don't mean you shouldn't see someone, but they are things to keep in mind when discussing donations and knowing if the donation is worth it,* Some of the red flags to look out for are: 1. Location; girls working out of known run down notels asking for a high donation, big red flag, if she's at a motel 6, or a super 8, woodspring suites, or a la quinta or something of that sort and she's asking for an outrageous donation, would probably be a good idea to not do it, not saying those girls are always bad, I've had good experiences at a motel 6 before, but make sure if you're testing the waters you opt for a qv and try to throw 60-80 out at them, just incase if it is bad, you don't walk away to down. A girl who has a private residence as an incall is usually a good sign, or can do an outcall to you and drives herself, driving herself is a big must for outcalls, because if someone else is taking her, then she is probably conscious that person is waiting for her the whole time and probably doesn't want to take her time, her having her own vehicle is a good sign, if she doesn't, a driver can also be another word for a handler, if you opt for outcall make sure you verify she's driving herself, don't give your exact address, give one nearby, and look out to see if you see her getting out of the vehicle after she parks or if someone is dropping her off, if she told you she's driving herself and you see someone else dropping her off you're better off saying no thanks and walking away, doesn't always mean its a guaranteed good time if otherwise, but starting with her own place or own vehicle you may be able to assume that she atleast has her shit together. 2. Multiple girls sharing a room, girls sharing a room means they are trying to save on hotel costs, if its a residence it can also be bad, if they are both in there, then they are constantly getting calls and texts, meaning the door is opening and closing as much as a 711, which means that no matter what you opt for, qv, hh,hr, you're going to get the same amount of time, probably 5-10 minutes before they are trying to get you out because their roommate or roommates double booked. This is also a red flag because it can mean there is a handler behind the scenes 3. Communication skills; again, this isn't ALWAYS an indication of a bad time, but it gives you a good idea, if she's responding to you every half hour, doesn't seem reliable, or if you message her and then she gets back to you the next day, could mean there is candy or dog food use at play and that can be a no no, girls who are also not good at answering questions and constantly reply with one word answers, or don't seem to have the mental ability to fully reply to you or answer your questions, probably means she doesn't care that much and she's not gunna care when she sees you either. Providers who are able to hold conversations and sound educated are usually better than white girls who type like dis an say k and you and please and type like they are in 6th grade, specially if she's a white girl but acts like she's from the hood. 4. Being able to tell if theres a handler at play, sometimes going through listcrawler you will see multiple girls with the same location, same description, same everything and if you can pick up on that it usually means there is someone in charge of them behind the scenes, lets not get confused, the mario coins are ALWAYS the motivator with these girls but what they are using the mario coins for goes a long way, handlers have a grip on these girls because they make them the mario coins, and the handler provides them with the candy in exchange, every once in a while you do find a diamond in the rough that may like you more than other clients and may actually enjoy what she does, and only does it to actually make a living for herself although that doesn't mean it isn't about the mario coins, but those are better to see than the ones who just want the donation and for you to get out. If you call a girl and a guy answers, probably a handler, has happened to me before. 5; Google is your best friend in this hobby, copy the number, paste it into google and search it, sometimes you can find out a lot about a girl by doing so, if you're on listcrawler and hold your finger down on a photo you should see an option that says something along the lines of "search for this image on google" and that option can be a lifesaver, in searching for girls this way while doing research you can find reviews, posts they have made in other cities, other numbers they have used, which can tell you a lot, a lot of the times these girls get a bad rep in ine place so they leave that place and go to another under a new alias with a new number but searching for the image can pull that up and bring up a lot of what they don't want you to see. 6; A lot of mongers say this, sometimes it can be inevitable, but try your best to not give the donation upfront, if you give the donation to her and she goes to the bathroom as soon as she has it, I can almost guarantee you you are going to have a bad time, if she won't do it without you providing the donation, just see if you can put it down somewhere without actually handing it to her, some of these girls will be sweet and great till you give them that and then as soon as they have it it can all go downhill from there but dint you ever, ever EVER dare fall for a "let me just get the donation so I can give it to my friend and or driver" type of deal I can almost guarantee you will not see that girl again. 7; This is the obvious one, reviews, I wouldn't put all your eggs in the basket for reviews and or comment section on listcrawler, this is because listcrawler allows just about anyone to make an account unless their IP address has been flagged previously, I've had situations where I read reviews or comments in listcrawler that said she was a 10/10 so I saw her and ended up being a rip off, this is because she made miltiple accounts, or her friends made accounts, or her handler, and posted bogus comments and reviews just to get guys to see her. This forum really is the best one, if you want to see if you can find something about a girl quick on here, go to advanced search, type in the name you see her go by on the ad, and filter where you're searching in from all forums to the place the ad is located in and hit search, and you may find out a lot of useful info, another good tool is the website escortindex, that website keeps a database of all the posts posted everyday on every different site and also matches picutres to similar pictures from different posts in different places that provider may have used in the past and has been a very helpful tool for me. 8; Too many no's or too much yes in the ad, no this, no that, no nothing, means she's probably just gunna give you the dead fish treatment, and yet some of those girls have the audacity to ask for 100 mario coins and up, same on the flip side though, if she just agrees to everything, that's a red flag and could very well be a set up, its one thing to be freaky its another to have atleast some self respect and preferences, specially if she advertises doing everything, that's probably a girl you want to stay away from for many reasons. 9; don't be afraid to walk away. This was something that took me a while to get the hang of, but if you get somewhere and you're not liking the vibe, you don't like something you see on the girl, do yourself a favor and leave, sometimes these girls can be manipulative and will try to convince you to stay but I promise you if you go with your gut feeling you will 9 times out of 10 be happy you did.[/QUOTE]The last thing that I would think about is do not under any circumstance send a deposit.