How to get really going in the hobby
First, RTF a little better. Jackson has some newby threads.
Second, get a prepaid phone just for the hobby.
Third, visit a few ladies that will see newbies. Monique in Dayton comes to mind, but there are others.
Fourth, review the ladies you see.
Fifth, help out other newbies on the board.
FWIW, the agency was using the two call system; a common practice. If you are using one of the agencies that post in the claasfied section on this board, you will be safe.
Hope this helps. Now play safe.
[QUOTE=TheGoodSh; 1703892]I couldn't see another place to put this which made sense so. First, let me say that I'm new to this place (USASG). I've seen 3 SP in my life: 1 in Vegas (2009).1 in Boston (2011) , and 1 here in Cincy just a few days ago. I've lurked around for awhile, but this is my first post. I had a few questions:
What is the best way to get references? If you don't have them, you can't see certain providers. If you see the less discriminating providers, they are also more likely to be unreliable. Also, why would they ever encourage you to go somewhere else? Why take time out of their day just to vouch for someone?
I just had some confusion with a local agency. I used email, because that is the safest way for me to communicate and I don't wan this activity to come crashing into my normal life. I said:"What's the protocol for setting up an appointment? What info do you need from me?" He asked for references. I gave him the contact info of the only girl I've seen recently. She's independent. And she's more than the agency girls in this case. Long story short: I think I have an appointment, I drive down there.
I told him via email that I was going to head down, since it sounded like we were clear and everything was set. I say that I will just text him when I get to the right exit. At no point does he say: "I can't book you without a reference." I would have understood if he can't. But all he needs to do is be clear about it.
I get there, he gives me directions to the place. Not an address. Just the name of the place. He asks for name, age, race. I give them to him. I sit outside. He tells me room number. I head up. I knock. No answer. I knock again. I wait. I tell him there's no answer. I ask if I should just go? He finally says: Yes. Leave. I never cleared your reference. She doesn't want to do it without the reference. I leave annoyed, and frustrated. Both because I was looking forward to the date, and because I wasted an hour and half (plus gas) because of simple confusion.
I understand the whole point of it. We want to keep everything safe. For the providers and the mongers. It is in everyone's best interest. Reputation is a valuable thing and that all makes sense. Independents who don't ask for references are going to be unreliable. The girl I saw this weekend never got back to him I guess. Why would she? She's older and costs more per date. And they are her direct competitors, and they offer services which she doesn't. Why help me see other girls?
I guess I just want to know what the safest, easiest way to get references is? Who should I see? How do I get over this barrier with the least exposure? I don't want to give anyone my personal info if I can avoid it.
This guy has a website, a phone number, and posts ads. He's as exposed as he can be. If LEO wants him, they'd get him. The only thing which protects him and the girls is the idea that the money is for time, not a service. What happens after we spend some time together isn't illegal. So him being indirect or unclear makes no sense to me. But if he losses his mind one day, and decides he doesn't care about the future business or is simply careless or foolish. So my second question is: what's to stop any agency or provider from fucking up your life, intentionally or via some sort of blunder?[/QUOTE]