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Long time follower, first time poster.
Been in and out of the hobby for 10 years around here.
Recently saw this ad, and I can't find any other ads with the number.
Reached out and she responds, but wondering if anyone has reviewed or seen.
[URL]https://cincinnati.rubratings.com/186273[/URL]
Thanks.
X.
[QUOTE=Facs345;4922413]She was buttering you up, she says the exact same thing to me and my buddy that go there LOL.[/QUOTE]Not to pile on, but I experienced the same. She even called me "#1 in Cincinnati" one time. Would text back and forth some too, last year before she went to Houston. Another friend of mine on here was a favorite of hers as well. My guess is she said the same thing to 15-20 other guys LOL. But who cares, we all had fun and it was a good time. That's what counts.
Long time follower on here, first time poster.
Wondering if anyone has any intel on this new one on RR.
[URL]https://cincinnati.rubratings.com/186273[/URL]
I'm generally pretty good on digging stuff up, but any help would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=GoodWill123;4923412]Not to pile on, but I experienced the same. She even called me "#1 in Cincinnati" one time. Would text back and forth some too, last year before she went to Houston. Another friend of mine on here was a favorite of hers as well. My guess is she said the same thing to 15-20 other guys LOL. But who cares, we all had fun and it was a good time. That's what counts.[/QUOTE]LOL bunch of goofballs hoping for a pretty woman type situation. She said I was her #1 LOL. Pathetic haha.
Been going for a long time. Girls are getting an attitude and saying hurry up massage over early, ruining it and now want 6 for standard. Ridiculous. Very disappointed.
[QUOTE=RedChevy1994;4926755]Been going for a long time. Girls are getting an attitude and saying hurry up massage over early, ruining it and now want 6 for standard. Ridiculous. Very disappointed.[/QUOTE]You do realize this is happening because the girls are demanding this and they are getting this. It's pretty simple. When they ask for 60 say no. If they short you on time. Don't tip. They will continue to get away with this if we allow them to. I play on a few different types of playgrounds (AMP, SA and Escorts) and I have noticed a similar trend. Prices are going up. Service is going down. Girls are getting nastier and this whole hobby crap is starting to get exhausting. I fear that this trend will become the new norm unless it gets squashed. We are the ones who can fix it but I doubt it will change. Maybe I should start searching the threads for those plastic robot chics!! LOL stay safe gents and stop rewarding and paying for shitty service! Ronnie out.
Visited Hong- Middletown again. Fairly good massage for an hr. Worked well this time with a standard ending. A bit rushed at the end and short by 10 min.
0. 6.
[QUOTE=Ronnie0927;4928013]You do realize this is happening because the girls are demanding this and they are getting this. It's pretty simple. When they ask for 60 say no. If they short you on time. Don't tip. They will continue to get away with this if we allow them to. I play on a few different types of playgrounds (AMP, SA and Escorts) and I have noticed a similar trend. Prices are going up. Service is going down. Girls are getting nastier and this whole hobby crap is starting to get exhausting. I fear that this trend will become the new norm unless it gets squashed. We are the ones who can fix it but I doubt it will change. Maybe I should start searching the threads for those plastic robot chics!! LOL stay safe gents and stop rewarding and paying for shitty service! Ronnie out.[/QUOTE]This ebb and flow in service and price is as old as the hobby itself. Peaks and valleys, guys. That's not to say that I think anyone should pay more than they are comfortable with, just pointing out that the market has literally always done this.
[QUOTE=Vilnius;4928181]This ebb and flow in service and price is as old as the hobby itself. Peaks and valleys, guys. That's not to say that I think anyone should pay more than they are comfortable with, just pointing out that the market has literally always done this.[/QUOTE]Normally when the "market" does this the "product" doesn't get crappier. I never have a problem with paying more for better service, but why should we all spend more for lack luster service? Shouldn't we be the ones setting the market regarding the hobby? Just food for thought.
[QUOTE=Xavier268;4923456]Long time follower on here, first time poster.
Wondering if anyone has any intel on this new one on RR.
[URL]https://cincinnati.rubratings.com/186273[/URL]
I'm generally pretty good on digging stuff up, but any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Her ad says she from Milwaukee. I text her an she said she as in a motel downtown an gave her donation. Gave me her rates an said she could be ready any time. I ask on the Milwaukee board for info on her haven't heard anything back yet. I will post if I get more info. Until then I will hold off. HB.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4928401]Her ad says she from Milwaukee. I text her an she said she as in a motel downtown an gave her donation. Gave me her rates an said she could be ready any time. I ask on the Milwaukee board for info on her haven't heard anything back yet. I will post if I get more info. Until then I will hold off. HB.[/QUOTE][URL]https://cincinnati.rubratings.com/186273[/URL]
Got a reply from Milwaukee about the provider from RR. They said scam gives apartment or motel then want money up front. I would pass on this one. You can go to the Milwaukee massage parlor forum see the reply.
[QUOTE=Ronnie0927;4928316]Normally when the "market" does this the "product" doesn't get crappier. I never have a problem with paying more for better service, but why should we all spend more for lack luster service? Shouldn't we be the ones setting the market regarding the hobby? Just food for thought.[/QUOTE]TRUE. They need our money more then we need their pussy. You walk out they loose the money we can always go find pussy elsewhere that is worth the price. I don't care to pay more for good service but will walk when they try to upcharge or start with I don't do this an don't do that.
[QUOTE=RedChevy1994;4926755]Been going for a long time. Girls are getting an attitude and saying hurry up massage over early, ruining it and now want 6 for standard. Ridiculous. Very disappointed.[/QUOTE]Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.
Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.
She came down to. 8.
I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.
They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.
If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.
You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.
Ob.
[QUOTE=Ronnie0927;4928013]You do realize this is happening because the girls are demanding this and they are getting this. It's pretty simple. When they ask for 60 say no. If they short you on time. Don't tip. They will continue to get away with this if we allow them to. I play on a few different types of playgrounds (AMP, SA and Escorts) and I have noticed a similar trend. Prices are going up. Service is going down. Girls are getting nastier and this whole hobby crap is starting to get exhausting. I fear that this trend will become the new norm unless it gets squashed. We are the ones who can fix it but I doubt it will change. Maybe I should start searching the threads for those plastic robot chics!! LOL stay safe gents and stop rewarding and paying for shitty service! Ronnie out.[/QUOTE]I must agree with Ronnie man about this, it is up to us. Supply and Demand relationship has a fundamental basis in that the item demanded must be "had" - can not be substituted or just abandoned and therefore the supplier is in control. Well that is not really the case in this area and you can say no. That will bring the price down because the supplier in this case has no option but to supply or go without the life style accustomed.
No a more interesting side note I have been to a number of places and found that menus are more wide open than ever pre covid. I don't know if this is a YMMV situation but I am finding Cincy to be moving in the direction of Florida.
Any others finding the menu expanding. As a result. 6 for a handshake ain't even considered.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4929588]TRUE. They need our money more then we need their pussy. You walk out they loose the money we can always go find pussy elsewhere that is worth the price. I don't care to pay more for good service but will walk when they try to upcharge or start with I don't do this an don't do that.[/QUOTE]Theoretically, I agree with you, but the buyers in this market are not always rational. You know there is the expression "thinking with the little head". In extreme cases, interest in the hobby can be an addiction.
[QUOTE=Icfts;4923176]Pretty good massage and extra. My new go-to.[/QUOTE]How Open was the Menu?
[QUOTE=Observant;4930345]Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.
Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.
She came down to. 8.
I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.
They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.
If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.
You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.
Ob.[/QUOTE]Hong was always nice because it was understood what the tip would be and there were no negotiations so no buzz kill. When you're looking at $ for 30 minutes with HE you might as well go to an escort where you'll get a full menu with no negotiations, crappy massage included if you ask. Hopefully Hong rethinks this increase. I know I'm not going back until it's reported that tips are back to normal.
I want to apologize to everyone on this board for what is happening at Hong. I certainly played a role in it, if I'm not the primary cause. I never, ever considered that my tipping habits would have this sort of downstream effect. I know, I know; I should have known: its not rocket science. I f-ed up. I don't know how to fix things, but I can promise you all that I will stop doing it, immediately.
Again, I am sorry. I was a dumbass.
[QUOTE=Observant;4930345]Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.
Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.
She came down to. 8.
I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.
They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.
If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.
You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.
Ob.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Observant;4930345]Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.
Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.
She came down to. 8.
I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.
They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.
If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.
You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.
Ob.[/QUOTE]I really mean no disrespect as you spend your cash any way you see fit. It's yours. With that being agreed upon, the amount of money you state as being what works for you is also part of the escalating prices we all are seeing. Four months ago, $60 bought the same service at Hong. A year ago, it was $40 and when they first opened, $20.
It's easy to make money, harder to keep it and this is not my first post on this subject. If the numbers you stated as your comfort levels of spending are accurate, can you then see yourself as a contributing factor of the pay raises they've given themselves? Again. I'm not picking a fight, just trying to point out my ongoing observations and how the rest of us must pay up to the bar that keeps being raised.
[QUOTE=Rimme;4932684]I really mean no disrespect as you spend your cash any way you see fit. It's yours. With that being agreed upon, the amount of money you state as being what works for you is also part of the escalating prices we all are seeing. Four months ago, $60 bought the same service at Hong. A year ago, it was $40 and when they first opened, $20.
It's easy to make money, harder to keep it and this is not my first post on this subject. If the numbers you stated as your comfort levels of spending are accurate, can you then see yourself as a contributing factor of the pay raises they've given themselves? Again. I'm not picking a fight, just trying to point out my ongoing observations and how the rest of us must pay up to the bar that keeps being raised.[/QUOTE]My point was that, while it might be a reflection on my horrible negotiation skills, my tipping over the last 3 years has not seen any escalation.
For eg: I can clearly remember once that I was able to suck tits for. 4 tip (New girl, I was the first one and I rolled the dice). Since the days of EDEN, I have found that although HE has ranged from. 2 to. 4, I could never get anyone topless for less than. 6. Or I have never been able to suck tits for less than. 8.
Trust me, I am not made of money but I have a threshold of how much arguing / begging I need to do to bring the tips down.
If I am complicit in creating heartburn for other tippers, that is unfortunate but I am not apologetic.
I also was validating, that it is ok to stop negotiations and get up. I do that for my thresholds.
Peace.
Ob.
[QUOTE=RickyDicky;4932477]Hong was always nice because it was understood what the tip would be and there were no negotiations so no buzz kill. When you're looking at $ for 30 minutes with HE you might as well go to an escort where you'll get a full menu with no negotiations, crappy massage included if you ask. Hopefully Hong rethinks this increase. I know I'm not going back until it's reported that tips are back to normal.[/QUOTE]Trust me. I have played the math in my head multiple times. Unfortunately, there are two factors which have almost made me a massage person:
1. I love massages. I actually see a legit MT twice a month and I pay her 175 for 120 minutes of massage. No extras. She massages pretty close to the boys, gets my glutes completely and I have ejaculated a few times during the session. I usually DIY after she leaves the room. And no, I am not sharing her details because she is not a provider but you can find her on [URL]massagebook.com[/URL]. She is one of the top therapists there. I have been burned once in the past with a referral on her.
2. I have partaken in most of the QV offerings here and the locations and quality of the providers leave much to be desired.
3. The risk of being caught at an AMP is much lower than being caught in a sting escort situation. My own assessment of course.
We all do what works for us. I have clarified this on the other post. My tipping at all the places has been predicted, even if you deem it inflated.
Peace.
Ob.
[QUOTE=Observant;4932778]My point was that, while it might be a reflection on my horrible negotiation skills, my tipping over the last 3 years has not seen any escalation.
For eg: I can clearly remember once that I was able to suck tits for. 4 tip (New girl, I was the first one and I rolled the dice). Since the days of EDEN, I have found that although HE has ranged from. 2 to. 4, I could never get anyone topless for less than. 6. Or I have never been able to suck tits for less than. 8.
Trust me, I am not made of money but I have a threshold of how much arguing / begging I need to do to bring the tips down.
If I am complicit in creating heartburn for other tippers, that is unfortunate but I am not apologetic.
I also was validating, that it is ok to stop negotiations and get up. I do that for my thresholds.
Peace.
Ob.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the civil response. A couple months after they opened, I was getting a BBBJ HE for a $60 tip from some skinny new girl there. Maybe she just liked me, IDK. I've stopped going there PCE, Post Covid Era, as the price of admission is higher than seeing a provider that offers massages and any kind of finish I choose for less. I would venture a guess that whomever is anyones fav at Hong has more lips sucking their titles than your favorite working girl doing massages.
Greetings! Will be up this way in a few weeks and wanted to ask for some recommendations for a good AMP in the area. I prefer a discrete entrance or parking lot (if possible), good massage and good HE or FS if an option. I don't really care what the ladies look like if the service is great LOL. Feel free to pm if you like and if any of you venture down to the capital, I can gladly repay the favor. Thanks and stay safe out there!
[QUOTE=Observant;4932810]Trust me. I have played the math in my head multiple times. Unfortunately, there are two factors which have almost made me a massage person:
2. I have partaken in most of the QV offerings here and the locations and quality of the providers leave much to be desired.
3. The risk of being caught at an AMP is much lower than being caught in a sting escort situation. My own assessment of course.
Peace.
Ob.[/QUOTE]There were a number of posts here that would have suitable for a response but I really liked OB's so here you go.
This is only for a little perspective so take it as you wish.
1st there are only a few places that I visit which allows for a bit of familiarity which really helps in this hobby. For me I visit only 4 which I will probably reduce to 3 as I think kabout it writing this. Choose the place you like / feel comfortable from everything to inside logistics, cleanliness and vibe.
2nd I keep a very simple menu: 30 min if no massage 60 min if I want a little massage.
3rd My tipping is up front discussion showing the money: . 4 for HE.
8 for CBJ or $ for / if GFE.
1. 4 for CFS or 1. 6 for / if GFE.
I get access to top and bottom before taking my clothes off to set the expectations.
4th Treat them like a lovely lady not a pickup. This will take you a long way. That's why I don't do other sidelines.
I happen to be attracted to Asians and find that they can be clean, safe and offer GFE if you reciprocate. Hence the small number.
Anyway, just my 2 cents to give back to a hobby that I find interesting and satisfying.
Be good. Stay safe.
Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.
[QUOTE=TheOldPilot;4933940]Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.[/QUOTE]One of the AMPs that was shut down on Beechmont by the do gooders is now a smoke / vape shop. Speaking of irony.
[QUOTE=Tracy777;4934359]One of the AMPs that was shut down on Beechmont by the do gooders is now a smoke / vape shop. Speaking of irony.[/QUOTE]The AMP on RT42 in Florence was shut down in December is now tobacco / vape store. Hey can I get a HE. No its illeagle. Ok can I buy some poison or tobacco so I an get cancer sure come on in.
[QUOTE=IFeelGood;4933388]There were a number of posts here that would have suitable for a response but I really liked OB's so here you go.
This is only for a little perspective so take it as you wish.
1st there are only a few places that I visit which allows for a bit of familiarity which really helps in this hobby. For me I visit only 4 which I will probably reduce to 3 as I think kabout it writing this. Choose the place you like / feel comfortable from everything to inside logistics, cleanliness and vibe.
2nd I keep a very simple menu: 30 min if no massage 60 min if I want a little massage.
3rd My tipping is up front discussion showing the money: . 4 for HE.
8 for CBJ or $ for / if GFE.
1. 4 for CFS or 1. 6 for / if GFE..[/QUOTE]If I may ask (and feel free to DM me the answer if necessary), how are you asking for GFE? Perhaps I'm going about it wrong (I'm open to changing some things).
For example, I've never set the expectation at the beginning; but I'm going to try later today.
I'm not an asshole to the provider, ever. Even when I've terminated service prematurely, I've done so in a direct but non-confrontational manner.
However, friends and colleagues have historically referred to my character as rather cold. Assuming that I cannot alter my character, is there anything else I can do differently?
[QUOTE=TheOldPilot;4933940]Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.[/QUOTE]Now I really want to walk in and see if they'll get on their knees and pay me homage.
This is a two visits in one review update on the Loveland location.
Tried to hit my regular joint recently on a weeknight around 8:30. Was greeted by the shorter masseuse who's been there for a while and she said they were busy and to come back at 9:30. So I killed time down the street and came back at 9:28. Lights were off and the doors were locked.
Walked around back to get in my car and saw the taller, prettier masseuse who's also been there for a while coming out of the back door and getting into a nice sedan driven by a white dude. She was in a hurry. Not saying the dude was getting take out but it sure looked that way. They closed a half hour early. So if that's the case I tip my cap to the guy in the sedan.
I was in the area anyway so I wasn't too bothered, I'm sure these ladies frequently have people say they are coming back and never show up, etc.
I still like this place but unfortunately it gets busier and busier. Calling ahead gets you nowhere, since they don't remember your name and the next guy who comes in they just assume is the guy who called. Last time I went that happened, about a month ago. I said I would be there in 30 and when I got there the shorter one came out and said the guy she was with currently said he called too. Luckily, the backup was available who I actually like more. Other times I haven't been so lucky and have had to wait 10-20 min while another monger is using my reservation.
I'll continue visiting but I accept it as a roll of the dice and never make a special trip. If I'm in the area, with time to spare, I try it.
This is a new location. I will tell select few the location.
[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;4936339]This is a two visits in one review update on the Loveland location.
Tried to hit my regular joint recently on a weeknight around 8:30. Was greeted by the shorter masseuse who's been there for a while and she said they were busy and to come back at 9:30. So I killed time down the street and came back at 9:28. Lights were off and the doors were locked.
Walked around back to get in my car and saw the taller, prettier masseuse who's also been there for a while coming out of the back door and getting into a nice sedan driven by a white dude. She was in a hurry. Not saying the dude was getting take out but it sure looked that way. They closed a half hour early. So if that's the case I tip my cap to the guy in the sedan.
I was in the area anyway so I wasn't too bothered, I'm sure these ladies frequently have people say they are coming back and never show up, etc.
I still like this place but unfortunately it gets busier and busier. Calling ahead gets you nowhere, since they don't remember your name and the next guy who comes in they just assume is the guy who called. Last time I went that happened, about a month ago. I said I would be there in 30 and when I got there the shorter one came out and said the guy she was with currently said he called too. Luckily, the backup was available who I actually like more. Other times I haven't been so lucky and have had to wait 10-20 min while another monger is using my reservation.
I'll continue visiting but I accept it as a roll of the dice and never make a special trip. If I'm in the area, with time to spare, I try it.[/QUOTE]I've had mixed results there over the years. Sometimes the HE is automatic, sometimes I have to ask for it and once in a while it's not on the menu. What's your experience been since they reopened after covid?
[QUOTE=Jb327;4937128]This is a new location. I will tell select few the location.[/QUOTE]Where is this new location? Thanks.
So my ATF looks like she's quit the game, which I knew would be coming soon. I've been reading through the thread and I'm not seeing any great ideas on where to go when you need some muscle relief and he. Is there any place reliable these days?
[QUOTE=BigBibble;4938099]So my ATF looks like she's quit the game, which I knew would be coming soon. I've been reading through the thread and I'm not seeing any great ideas on where to go when you need some muscle relief and he. Is there any place reliable these days?[/QUOTE]We can't afford to lose any of the good ones. Who is hanging up her spurs? PM is fine if you prefer.
I'm just curious if anyone has went into a massage parlor and undressed and laid face up first. I would like too try to get the HE at the beginning and maybe another at the end. I had one girl at a place in Columbus that would let me get 2 pops at the end back to back and she would work for it. Just curious about how to get the pop at the beginning. Let me know if you guys have any luck.
[QUOTE=Kenal1;4937454]I've had mixed results there over the years. Sometimes the HE is automatic, sometimes I have to ask for it and once in a while it's not on the menu. What's your experience been since they reopened after covid?[/QUOTE]Good enough to keep going there. They added ceiling bars to walk on your back and the same girls are still there.
It's not a FS place, at least not for what I'm offering but I have a very high batting average on handshakes.
[QUOTE=RubForNut;4938891]I'm just curious if anyone has went into a massage parlor and undressed and laid face up first. I would like too try to get the HE at the beginning and maybe another at the end. I had one girl at a place in Columbus that would let me get 2 pops at the end back to back and she would work for it. Just curious about how to get the pop at the beginning. Let me know if you guys have any luck.[/QUOTE]I've tried that trick without any luck. Always just told me to roll over, "Back first". Maybe you had better results than me. Good luck!
This is tragic.
[QUOTE=TheOldPilot;4933940]Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheOldPilot;4933940]Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.[/QUOTE]Have you seen their sign?