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[QUOTE=PlayTiem;6113079]I don't KNOW why you might want to THINK about things when I know WHAT "I'm" talking about and don't sound AT ALL like one of those commercials from the 1950's with RANDOM capitalization and quotation marks. Except I'm a fucktard posting on the "INTARWEBS. ".

And, yes, masking was partially to slow down stacking corpses outside of morgues. Florida currently is still in the top 3 states for recent Covid deaths, though, with about, what 80,000 deaths to date total?

On topic, I've not fucked an asian lady for far too long. What's your favorite AMP?[/QUOTE]Each of you should read two books, "The Real Dr Fauci" by Robert Kennedy jr and "Silent Invasion" by Deborah Birx and you will get a good, documented picture of the poor quality of doctors we have in Government. Most of what they told us was happening and what we needed to do was pure BS. In fact, they knew the vaccine would not work they just hoped it might slow the spread. They lied to us and are still lying to us. Both Trump and Biden were not told the truth. Read the books, they clear up all the less than accurate stuff we have been mandated to do in the last two years. It was all about control, had nothing to do with medicine.

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;6113079]I don't KNOW why you might want to THINK about things when I know WHAT "I'm" talking about and don't sound AT ALL like one of those commercials from the 1950's with RANDOM capitalization and quotation marks. Except I'm a fucktard posting on the "INTARWEBS. ".

And, yes, masking was partially to slow down stacking corpses outside of morgues. Florida currently is still in the top 3 states for recent Covid deaths, though, with about, what 80,000 deaths to date total?

On topic, I've not fucked an asian lady for far too long. What's your favorite AMP?[/QUOTE]In Florida we had 80,000 deaths of 7,100,000 infections. That is a death rate of 0. 01% among those that were infected with COVID.

We are the third state in deaths, we are also the third most populated state.

The question I would love to get an answer is: how many people died with covid vs. How many people died of covid?

BTW the 0. 01% death rate among infected. Is very consistent across all states, even worldwide.

Worldwide cases: about 606 M. Worldwide deaths: about 6. 5 M.

We shot down the world for a sickness that has a survival rate of 99.99% if contracted.

Make your own conclusions.

People like to be controlled and give the govt power. Name a study that proves masks help if worn properly and around people. There isn't one. We should be more concerned about candy from Mexico killing young people like crazy but the dems want more illegals voting to keep them in power these are the same people who say men can get pregnant. Covid is endemic govt ruined people businesses and fucked up children.

[QUOTE=NbWill;6113442]In Florida we had 80,000 deaths of 7,100,000 infections. That is a death rate of 0. 01% among those that were infected with COVID.

We are the third state in deaths, we are also the third most populated state.

The question I would love to get an answer is: how many people died with covid vs. How many people died of covid?

BTW the 0. 01% death rate among infected. Is very consistent across all states, even worldwide.

Worldwide cases: about 606 M. Worldwide deaths: about 6. 5 M.

We shot down the world for a sickness that has a survival rate of 99.99% if contracted.

Make your own conclusions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DllsCwby;6113514] Name a study that proves masks help if worn properly and around people. There isn't one.[/QUOTE]Actually, there was one. Done by the CDC themselves. Since the results were not quite what they were expecting, they twisted the figures to make it look good. After that, nothing more. Wonder why.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm[/URL]

"Wearing an N95/ KN95 respirator (aOR = 0. 17; 95% CI = 0. 050. 64) or wearing a surgical mask (aOR = 0. 34; 95% CI = 0. 13*0. 90) was associated with lower adjusted odds of a positive test result compared with not wearing a mask (Table 3). Wearing a cloth mask (aOR = 0. 44; 95% CI = 0. 171. 17) was associated with lower adjusted odds of a positive test compared with never wearing a face covering but was not statistically significant. ".

The CDC study found that masks decrease, at best, 2% the rate of infection. And that with a N95 mask. Cloth is like wearing nothing. Granted, that's not necessarily a bad thing but from that to where we went.

And, to add insult to injury, California and NY, the states with the strongest mask mandates have the same rate of deaths as FL, with a very limited mask mandate.

[QUOTE=NbWill;6113570]Actually, there was one. Done by the CDC themselves. Since the results were not quite what they were expecting, they twisted the figures to make it look good. After that, nothing more. Wonder why.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm[/URL]

"Wearing an N95/ KN95 respirator (aOR = 0. 17; 95% CI = 0. 050. 64) or wearing a surgical mask (aOR = 0. 34; 95% CI = 0. 13*0. 90) was associated with lower adjusted odds of a positive test result compared with not wearing a mask (Table 3). Wearing a cloth mask (aOR = 0. 44; 95% CI = 0. 171. 17) was associated with lower adjusted odds of a positive test compared with never wearing a face covering but was not statistically significant. ".

The CDC study found that masks decrease, at best, 2% the rate of infection. And that with a N95 mask. Cloth is like wearing nothing. Granted, that's not necessarily a bad thing but from that to where we went.

And, to add insult to injury, California and NY, the states with the strongest mask mandates have the same rate of deaths as FL, with a very limited mask mandate.[/QUOTE]On February 11,2022, the CDC released this study about masks with the following summary:

"Face masks or respirators (N95/ KN95's) effectively filter virus-sized particles in laboratory settings. \.

"Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0. 44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use.

"What are the implications for public health practice?

"In addition to being up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccinations, consistently wearing a comfortable, well-fitting face mask or respirator in indoor public settings protects against acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection; a respirator offers the best protection. ".

Here's the study.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm[/URL]

Also, your statement that Florida had comparable rates to California just doesn't match the data.

From [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html[/URL].

If you look, while Florida and California had similar infection rates (Florida at 20 per 100 K residents; California at 19), Florida is nearly twice at high in hospitalization rates (14 per 100 K residents while California is at 8). And Florida's death rate is more than twice as high per capita- 0. 23 vs 0. 10.

New York's hospitalization number nearly matches Florida, but the death rate is also lower than Florida.

Bottom line, masks and vaccines work. And I suspect we'll have better results with the new round of variant-specific boosters.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6114495]On February 11,2022, the CDC released this study about masks with the following summary:

"Face masks or respirators (N95/ KN95's) effectively filter virus-sized particles in laboratory settings. \.

"Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0. 44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use.

"What are the implications for public health practice?

"In addition to being up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccinations, consistently wearing a comfortable, well-fitting face mask or respirator in indoor public settings protects against acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection; a respirator offers the best protection. ".

Here's the study.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm[/URL]

Also, your statement that Florida had comparable rates to California just doesn't match the data.

From [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html[/URL].

If you look, while Florida and California had similar infection rates (Florida at 20 per 100 K residents; California at 19), Florida is nearly twice at high in hospitalization rates (14 per 100 K residents while California is at 8). And Florida's death rate is more than twice as high per capita- 0. 23 vs 0. 10.

New York's hospitalization number nearly matches Florida, but the death rate is also lower than Florida.

Bottom line, masks and vaccines work. And I suspect we'll have better results with the new round of variant-specific boosters.[/QUOTE]Masks don't work and why has Biden who was triple vaxed still get covid? Thanks for posting a bunch of propaganda, everyone knows the CDC is compromised, and the NYTimes is also propaganda. Sorry you can wear your face diaper all you want, READ THE BOX it says it right on it, doesn't prevent the spread of covid. Like all viruses the must run their course. I still can't believe some people are still so programmed. Its really sad. WAKE UP! There are hundrreds of PIER REVIEWED studies that PROVE masks do not work. The LEFT is so delusional.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6114495]On February 11,2022, the CDC released this study about masks with the following summary:

"Face masks or respirators (N95/ KN95's) effectively filter virus-sized particles in laboratory settings. \.

"Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0. 44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use.

"What are the implications for public health practice?

"In addition to being up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccinations, consistently wearing a comfortable, well-fitting face mask or respirator in indoor public settings protects against acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection; a respirator offers the best protection. ".

Here's the study.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm[/URL]

Also, your statement that Florida had comparable rates to California just doesn't match the data.

From [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html[/URL].

If you look, while Florida and California had similar infection rates (Florida at 20 per 100 K residents; California at 19), Florida is nearly twice at high in hospitalization rates (14 per 100 K residents while California is at 8). And Florida's death rate is more than twice as high per capita- 0. 23 vs 0. 10.

New York's hospitalization number nearly matches Florida, but the death rate is also lower than Florida.

Bottom line, masks and vaccines work. And I suspect we'll have better results with the new round of variant-specific boosters.[/QUOTE]My friend,

You are obviously been brain washed.

The odds lowered by wearing N95 masks is 2% as per CDC. Is it lower? Yes. Is it significant? No. Is it worth it the collateral damage? No.

Not sure where you get your data. Mine come from this:

[URL]https://www.bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates[/URL]

If you look at the most reliable source, Johns Hopkins Hospital, the numbers are the same.

[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL]

Confirmed cases worldwide.

607,362,097.

Fatal cases.

6,510,110.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

US.

Total cases.

95,224,801.

Fatal cases.

1,050,290.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

Florida.

Total cases.

7,066,234.

Fatal.

80,386.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

New York.

Total cases.

6,009,470.

Fatal.

73,818.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

California.

Total cases.

11,163,758.

Fatal.

95,407.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

Everything rounded to the 100th.

Now, you can twist numbers every other way but those are simple, effective numbers that tell the truth.

Not sure what else can be said.

[QUOTE=NbWill;6114865]My friend,

You are obviously been brain washed.

The odds lowered by wearing N95 masks is 2% as per CDC. Is it lower? Yes. Is it significant? No. Is it worth it the collateral damage? No.

Not sure where you get your data. Mine come from this:

[URL]https://www.bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates[/URL]

If you look at the most reliable source, Johns Hopkins Hospital, the numbers are the same.

[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL]

Confirmed cases worldwide.

607,362,097.

Fatal cases.

6,510,110.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

US.

Total cases.

95,224,801.

Fatal cases.

1,050,290.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

Florida.

Total cases.

7,066,234.

Fatal.

80,386.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

New York.

Total cases.

6,009,470.

Fatal.

73,818.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

California.

Total cases.

11,163,758.

Fatal.

95,407.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

Everything rounded to the 100th.

Now, you can twist numbers every other way but those are simple, effective numbers that tell the truth.

Not sure what else can be said.[/QUOTE]You can present all of the facts and data you want to that masks don't work but the kool aid drinkers won't listen. It's not worth the effort. Remember when the government recommended cloth masks? That should answer all questions.

[QUOTE=RedTalon;6115524]You can present all of the facts and data you want to that masks don't work but the kool aid drinkers won't listen. It's not worth the effort. Remember when the government recommended cloth masks? That should answer all questions.[/QUOTE]You are partially true, my friend.

Indeed, the kool aid drinkers will not listen, regardless of data and facts. We have seen that over and over. However, I believe it is important to present facts and data so those that did not drink enough kool aid, or those that have not drank it yet but are on the verge don't drink it.

Biggest problem is to be defeated in the war of words.

[QUOTE=NbWill;6114865]My friend,

You are obviously been brain washed.

The odds lowered by wearing N95 masks is 2% as per CDC. Is it lower? Yes. Is it significant? No. Is it worth it the collateral damage? No.

Not sure where you get your data. Mine come from this:

[URL]https://www.bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates[/URL]

If you look at the most reliable source, Johns Hopkins Hospital, the numbers are the same.

[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL]

Confirmed cases worldwide.

607,362,097.

Fatal cases.

6,510,110.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

US.

Total cases.

95,224,801.

Fatal cases.

1,050,290.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

Florida.

Total cases.

7,066,234.

Fatal.

80,386.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

New York.

Total cases.

6,009,470.

Fatal.

73,818.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

California.

Total cases.

11,163,758.

Fatal.

95,407.

Death rate of infected: 0. 01%.

Everything rounded to the 100th.

Now, you can twist numbers every other way but those are simple, effective numbers that tell the truth.

Not sure what else can be said.[/QUOTE]Dude, I gave you the sources in my post. So, you know, you may not like the conclusions, but I didn't twist numbers. I quoted them.

But you do you.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6114495]On February 11,2022, the CDC released this study about masks with the following summary:

"Face masks or respirators (N95/ KN95's) effectively filter virus-sized particles in laboratory settings. \.

"Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0. 44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use.

"What are the implications for public health practice?

"In addition to being up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccinations, consistently wearing a comfortable, well-fitting face mask or respirator in indoor public settings protects against acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection; a respirator offers the best protection. ".

Here's the study.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm[/URL]

Also, your statement that Florida had comparable rates to California just doesn't match the data.

From [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html[/URL].

If you look, while Florida and California had similar infection rates (Florida at 20 per 100 K residents; California at 19), Florida is nearly twice at high in hospitalization rates (14 per 100 K residents while California is at 8). And Florida's death rate is more than twice as high per capita- 0. 23 vs 0. 10.

New York's hospitalization number nearly matches Florida, but the death rate is also lower than Florida.

Bottom line, masks and vaccines work. And I suspect we'll have better results with the new round of variant-specific boosters.[/QUOTE]I think you will find from the earliest statements by Fauci, and the CdC the masks were never meant to protect You, they were meant to protect others from You. But whatever, if it makes you feel better wear one some people look much better in masks.

[QUOTE=PervNerd48;6116050]Dude, I gave you the sources in my post. So, you know, you may not like the conclusions, but I didn't twist numbers. I quoted them.

But you do you.[/QUOTE]Dude, you can lead a dude to water, but you cannot make him drink. He is already full of kool aid. LOL.

[QUOTE=SSideJohnny;6114843]Masks don't work and why has Biden who was triple vaxed still get covid? Thanks for posting a bunch of propaganda, everyone knows the CDC is compromised, and the NYTimes is also propaganda. Sorry you can wear your face diaper all you want, READ THE BOX it says it right on it, doesn't prevent the spread of covid. Like all viruses the must run their course. I still can't believe some people are still so programmed. Its really sad. WAKE UP! There are hundrreds of PIER REVIEWED studies that PROVE masks do not work. The LEFT is so delusional.[/QUOTE]I would LOVE to have a review at a PIER.

You know, where people go fishing.

"hundrreds" OF TIMES.

When you can't even spell or put together a sentence, it's difficult to take anything you have to say seriously. Seriously.

Also, why do you people RANDOMLY capitalize words?

It makes you SEEM like you will YELL in the the middle of a conversation FOR no DISCERNABLE reason!

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;6117634]I would LOVE to have a review at a PIER.

You know, where people go fishing.

"hundrreds" OF TIMES.

When you can't even spell or put together a sentence, it's difficult to take anything you have to say seriously. Seriously.

Also, why do you people RANDOMLY capitalize words?

It makes you SEEM like you will YELL in the the middle of a conversation FOR no DISCERNABLE reason![/QUOTE]Wow that's the best you got? Peer vs Pier? I think you should keep wearing your face diaper, no one what's to hear what someone who obviously still is programmed has to say. Maybe the caps are there to attempt to wake up the programmed lemmings that only believe what they hear on the T.V. News flash dude, you spelled "Discernible" wrong, guess you have no credibility then right? ;-)

You would think yelling would be with an "!", or all caps the entire sentence, who just yells one word of a sentence? Oh no that last sentence was too short, or possibly a run on, you may not understand the point. I love in message forums when the push back is a one word grammar oversight or a typo. Talk about weak! As it turns out, the proof is out there sorry you chose to look away, not my problem. I know it's tough man social dissidence can suck doesn't it? What sentence was incorrect and you couldn't understand? When the best response you have is I didn't form a complete complex sentence and you are worried about grammar, your response SEEMS WEAK at best. ;-)

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