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Man I would take you out for drinks just for this info. Thanks man.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4025237]You can not offer dollars for sex on seeking. So I always offer my $ for their time/date. If they agree I ask them to email me for the details/terms of what a date will entail. When they email I give them the choice of an unpaid M&G or a paid fc date. half never reply. their hopes dashed thinking they were gonna get paid a $ just to have lunch with me. yeah right. the other half agree to one or the other. Many times the m&g will lead directly to the fc. and sometimes not, maybe never, or sometimes at a later date.

I just know you always need to be prepared to go from the m&g right to the fc. It happens a lot.

A few recent examples, I did an M&G with the half pinay girl and 10 days later we hit the no-tel. awesome date. I M&Ged a GPS asian just for the fuck of it, the next thing I know we are in her fc. but never again, she was just curious. Took a skinny blond AA girl to a fancy lunch next thing I know we are at the no-tel. But also did an M&G with an older african girl, and she never txted me back. These were all in the last 8 weeks. And most of the other M&Gs as of late also ended up in the FC. But giving the girl the choice of two low pressure options lets them know you are not a thirsty b***h, which basically makes them want you more.

The girls that go straight to the FC mostly just drop their panties immediately, but i have had some stick to the terms as agreed upon. Those girls i rarely see again. If a girl doesnt let you in her pussy or mouth on a first date she most likely never will. So i rarely bother to find out. There are just too many more waiting in line for their chance to make Daddy happy.

And a note to the newbies, never ever ever talk about sex, except in the driest, matter of fact terms, or your dick size, or send dick pics. I absolutely refuse to sext a girl i have never dated. A confident, assumptive, approach combined with an obvious adoration of their looks and personality is all thats required to get what you want (in balance with the sugar). If they ask you a direct sexual question, just answer it in the briefest way possible only.

If a girl asks me anything about my dick size or skills I just say i am "above average" or "experienced" in those exact words, and not a word more. I actually slipped up with the blond skinny AA girl when she asked about my skills. I said "awesome". She immediately shot back that every guy says that and then they never are. But after 10 minutes in the FC she gushed a pint of fluid, so whatever pressure there was to perform was gone. She then proceeded to milk me as commanded. lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhantomPhx69;4029188]Man I would take you out for drinks just for this info. Thanks man.[/QUOTE]I don't drink. lol. And you are welcome. It's kinda like when you see those ads on TV. "lease a new BMW for only $299 a month". You rush down to the dealer and they say, "oh, and btw there's a 5k deposit at signing".

It's not a true bait and switch, it's more of a bait and explain the details later. Another approach I have seen in these threads is to allude to the job, the car, the house to create an illusion of possible things to come. I won't say I have never done that. But being a jeans and t-shirt kind of guy, that drives a very used car and has an average income, that really wouldn't work for me anyway. (and when I had all those things, I just got GPS'ed a lot anyway). An experienced/intelligent girl will always be thinking, it really doesn't matter how much you have but only how much are you willing to spend.

I once had a discussion in a parking lot about sugaring with this guy, that in a condescending tone told me he never paid cash to get pussy (all this while standing next to his 250K ride), and I was like dude... really? So for you average income or even lower income guys, you are not out of the race by any means. I became a sugar daddy because I had the ways and means to paper over any situation. But it wasn't until my fortunes eroded that I sharpened my game, to not only be able to participate, but to fully enjoy my time in the bowl.

No doubt I have had to give up a lot of other hobbies/pursuits (and GPS girls) to keep this one. So when a girl asks me what I like to do for fun, I just answer her by saying "I'm doing it right now". It puts a smile on their face every time.

If a girl is more interested in being wined & dined in a fancy dress so the whole world can see how awesome she is, as opposed to getting her cell phone bill paid, and her Daddy telling her she is his favorite little girl in the whole world, then she is probably not the girl for me. (at least until I get rich again... and even then)

Spotted another lady from HX here on SA.

Chatted her up just to see what she's expecting from an SD.

She's looking for a ppm of $800-$1,000.

She must be zonked out of her mind.

I replied "A friend of mine says he recognizes you from another site & he knows for a fact that you ask for $300 per meet. Can you explain exactly what value you'd be bringing to an arrangement here to justify a $500-$700 increase?

She read it and hasn't replied lmao.

[QUOTE=Mile22;4033504]Spotted another lady from HX here on SA.

Chatted her up just to see what she's expecting from an SD.

She's looking for a ppm of $800-$1,000.

She must be zonked out of her mind.

I replied "A friend of mine says he recognizes you from another site & he knows for a fact that you ask for $300 per meet. Can you explain exactly what value you'd be bringing to an arrangement here to justify a $500-$700 increase?

She read it and hasn't replied lmao.[/QUOTE]When you are new (and sometimes not so new on SA), its tempting to call a girl out on her BS. But seriously that kind of stuff is more of a distraction than anything. Get in the habit of just deleting their message and hiding their profile and move on. We all have only so much energy to put out and if even a little bit of it is wasted on petty BS it distracts from the primary purpose.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4034803]When you are new (and sometimes not so new on SA), its tempting to call a girl out on her BS. But seriously that kind of stuff is more of a distraction than anything. Get in the habit of just deleting their message and hiding their profile and move on. We all have only so much energy to put out and if even a little bit of it is wasted on petty BS it distracts from the primary purpose.[/QUOTE]Yea. Normally that's what I would've done & have done in the past.

I just thought it'd be funny to call her out since her profile text says she isn't an escort, and that it's offensive to approach her as though she is (go figure).

[QUOTE=Mile22;4034973]Yea. Normally that's what I would've done & have done in the past.

I just thought it'd be funny to call her out since her profile text says she isn't an escort, and that it's offensive to approach her as though she is (go figure).[/QUOTE]If a girl says anything about that in her profile, I will not message her. And OK. Cool.

I see on some of the profiles now, that girls have an age range listed. It seems to always top out at 60. Is that as high as it allows them to go?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4036627]I see on some of the profiles now, that girls have an age range listed. It seems to always top out at 60. Is that as high as it allows them to go?[/QUOTE]60 is the upper limit.

[QUOTE=Mile22;4036719]60 is the upper limit.[/QUOTE]Thats sad... lol.. I once had an 18 year old that said she loved everything about me, except one thing. That I wasnt over 70. True story

This weeks POTS.

1 - mostly in agreement. But hard to turn down a 5' babydoll. Love to see her this weekend. A great one and done if nothing else.

2 - classy looks, very pretty. Seemed interested at first, but hasnt logged into the site for a week.

3 - in full agreement but lives too freaking far. Comes to LA sometimes. I have just been too busy to make the effort. And no overpriced ubers. So I just have to wait.

Between my work, my GF and my not so new little girl I have very little time (or money) to spare these days.

Not in this area but have been an avid student of this thread (and the Richmond thread, etc) for a long time, and there are a few things I have learned. I'm in about as middle of the midwest as one can be and can attest to HG's messaging method. It works. Probably not as well as on the coasts, but it does generate interest-and the pics I have up are borderline creepy (so I have been told. LOL). I usually send out the standard message #1 and wait. I have not done the stats but I would say I get a 40-50% reply rate. If the reply is just to see my private photos I generally move on. After they reply, I will shoot message #2, which has been tweaked a bit to my taste. You can tell it gets their attention because the replies then come much faster. The girls around here are. Girls I guess, because I will get replies that say that is just what they are looking for but if you turn the conversation a bit sexual many times they back off on that part. The 18-20 yos are the most flighty; older than that seem to mostly get it. I'm in the middle of a back and forth with a HG type of girl and have been really tip toeing. Is in to message #2, and wants to meet. I mention that I don't pay just to meet and she is ok with that but wants to meet a handful of times and see if we have chemistry (I push the needing a connection / chemistry thing). I mention again that I don't pay just to meet and she blasts back the 'what do you pay for?. I am not a prostitute! Message. I almost stopped my communication with her, but thought 'WWHGD'. LOL, and answered back with "I can tell this wouldn't work out if you look at this as getting paid to do something. Mutual companionship is offered and enjoyed and the allowance is given to help you out with your needs because I want to. That is why I need some kind of a connection. I want you to WANT to please and be pleased. Do I want an intimate relationship?-yes. Blah blah blah twisted message #2 again blah blah I understand not every girl is in to this blah blah I don't judge". I really thought the conversation was over but the response was I think we need to discuss this in person. Have not discussed allowance yet but an interesting reply from her was 'I did word that very crudely. From my short experience on here that's what guys treat it as, almost like a transaction. They offer to give me money and I give them love or sex. I was looking for something emotionally and mutually beneficial but they looked at it as basically paying me to do things for them so my view of men on this sight has changed as more messages made it clear they were looking for only discreet private time. It made me forget that there are people on here to want the connection and I am very sorry for assuming off of what I've experienced so far. I do feel like we want the same thing and for it to not be treated as an allowance / transaction but a mutually beneficial relationship. ".

Let this be a lesson?. And note she mentions nothing in her profile about FWB or anything to hint intimacy. Don't pay attention to what they post. They will either respond or they won't and sometimes you may be surprised.

HG- I do have one question. Not so many posts ago you mentioned to a fine gentleman asking advice that a particular profile 'had red flags all over it. Just stop the communication'. I looked at the profile and saw nothing that tweaked my attention. What gives? Also, I think I will incorporate your 'terms' you mention and see how I can spin that one.

Og.

[QUOTE=Ognib;4042243]HG- I do have one question. Not so many posts ago you mentioned to a fine gentleman asking advice that a particular profile 'had red flags all over it. Just stop the communication'. I looked at the profile and saw nothing that tweaked my attention. What gives? Also, I think I will incorporate your 'terms' you mention and see how I can spin that one.

Og.[/QUOTE]I would need to know the post # to recall that one.

Today my not so new little girl informed me that she moved in with a SD and is now getting 2k a month allowance on top of it. This is a good thing and something we had talked about many times. I helped upgrade her profile and very quickly she found someone. I am sure it will go to 3k a month once all her meals etc are figured in. She moved very close to me so seeing her on the side will be pretty easy logistically. And at this point except for some inexpensive gifts I plan to just turn off the sugar. I consider it a win win situation. We will see how tight a reign he keeps on her, but this is not a girl you can tie down. She has her friends and she likes to party and go out.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4042161]This weeks POTS.

1 - mostly in agreement. But hard to turn down a 5' babydoll. Love to see her this weekend. A great one and done if nothing else.

2 - classy looks, very pretty. Seemed interested at first, but hasnt logged into the site for a week.

3 - in full agreement but lives too freaking far. Comes to LA sometimes. I have just been too busy to make the effort. And no overpriced ubers. So I just have to wait.

Between my work, my GF and my not so new little girl I have very little time (or money) to spare these days.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed reading all of your adventures and posts for a long time, I too feel your pain as circumstances change, heck I recall just a couple years ago I had many cuties to choose from but again circumstances and life changes and so am out of this venue (sugar daddy girls) for the past almost 2 years.

Time to move on!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4043008]I would need to know the post # to recall that one.

Today my not so new little girl informed me that she moved in with a SD and is now getting 2k a month allowance on top of it. This is a good thing and something we had talked about many times. I helped upgrade her profile and very quickly she found someone. I am sure it will go to 3k a month once all her meals etc are figured in. She moved very close to me so seeing her on the side will be pretty easy logistically. And at this point except for some inexpensive gifts I plan to just turn off the sugar. I consider it a win win situation. We will see how tight a reign he keeps on her, but this is not a girl you can tie down. She has her friends and she likes to party and go out.[/QUOTE]It was #3399.

[QUOTE=Ognib;4043242]It was #3399.[/QUOTE]1 - "photoshop of Gigi Hadid" uses a fake pic.

2 - "I love traveling! = GPS most of the time.

3 - "I like to be spoiled getting help with bills" spoiling and bills = GPS.

4 - "worldly" = GPS.

I guess if you can afford to spoil a 28 year old with no pic and pay her bills, then go for it. Tell me she wants less than 2 k-3 k a month. I won't believe it.