Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;6844045]The state of affairs on seeking is indeed very sad. I spent one month, putting in average effort and I can't say I have much to brag about. Too many scammers, GPS touched and unreliable figures. For ppm, 500 seems to be the new golden number.[/QUOTE]It seems just about everyone who posts here about Seeking does not have much luck or good to say about the women on it.

Knew it has gone down hill but seems around here it is worse than other areas. None of those women are worth the money they are asking.

Really have to search for anyone somewhat good on there now it seems.

You have mid level women thinking they are centerfold or model material LOL.

According to my good, brotha-buddy who I communicate with a lot, he says he's met quite a bit of gems off these sites. Those weren't his exact words, but that's what I gather. Well this site and I think SB too? Although, I could be mistaken on the Sugar Babies one?! And he's not a fan of Skip or that EB one, those are junk to him. Doesn't waste his time with those types of sites. But he said he's met some good utrs from Seeking. Whom in which he's had decent connections with and he's even shared with other trusted people, who he's known a long time.

I highly doubt he shares anymore, so I wouldn't waste your time asking me. But I'm sure some of ya's out here, have communicated with him before. He's cool, doesn't expect anything in return. But kindness and politeness goes a long way in this Hobby. It pays to be kind, to those who can be trusted. So if you come across a cool monger who's willing to share, it's good to report back. And be respectful or thankful. I'm not saying this for my benefit, I just mean in general. It's good for proper etiquette.

The last link has been talked about on the Worcester forum and I think this one. I think it was positive overall.

Your summary is a good snapshot what SA has become. A few years ago, you could find similar for 200-300 and even younger. A couple were knockouts for sure and would have been above 500 any time period. The one asking for 750 is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;6844045]The state of affairs on seeking is indeed very sad. I spent one month, putting in average effort and I can't say I have much to brag about. Too many scammers, GPS touched and unreliable figures. For ppm, 500 seems to be the new golden number.

Some profiles that might worth mentioning and that I am curious whether anyone met with:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5096e6b0-9d89-46d3-8ee1-4b1a331a9182[/URL]

Asked 500 ppm, I think she's real, stopped replying at some point.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/01b88acf-bf4b-48a9-9bad-1673fbf91b59[/URL]

We agreed on 400 ppm, I had some doubts about her profile so I asked her for a platonic meet & greet. One hour before the meeting she asked me if she'll get an allowance. I told her that for this meet no, however, if we have chemistry we can book a hotel and get this into a ppm meeting. She replied that she's not looking to have sex for money and wants a 'real sugar daddy'. LOL!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/95bdee8f-16c0-4f1c-8a2f-421eafa6ee74[/URL]

The pics she sent are not very flattering. Seemed a bit like a scam though, very open menu (including BBFS). I didn't follow through to meet her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a1ddc8ed-3f57-4507-a849-5d4ee34626d1[/URL]

She talks a bit game, wants 500-600 ppm. Met her for a coffee and well, didn't find her attractive at all (think missing teeth LOL).

And the GPS Oscars go to:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45aae19e-2e51-49d0-89cb-54e2205353e5[/URL]

Wants between 500-1000 ppm, but everything covered. Asked for BBBJ, she cursed me LOL!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4cf3bc2d-f662-4e7a-a145-4870bcb1b22f[/URL]

Ppm minimum 800, CBJ and CFS (might go for BBBJ if you become a long term partner).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e0db5886-2d45-4877-9e0f-56170d11e644[/URL]

Says she's visiting Boston, seems real, but 1500 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1ae5e083-423f-4c56-b9e8-1ba13b80bb40[/URL]

She "wouldn't trouble" herself for anything less than 750.

And finally a question. Has anyone interacted with [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ad961b7-c2ba-472c-88c9-121588a681d5[/URL] ? I might TOFTT with her.[/QUOTE]

You must be doing something wrong. I've consistently had great results over many years.

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;6844045]The state of affairs on seeking is indeed very sad. I spent one month, putting in average effort and I can't say I have much to brag about. Too many scammers, GPS touched and unreliable figures. For ppm, 500 seems to be the new golden number.

Some profiles that might worth mentioning and that I am curious whether anyone met with:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5096e6b0-9d89-46d3-8ee1-4b1a331a9182[/URL]

Asked 500 ppm, I think she's real, stopped replying at some point.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/01b88acf-bf4b-48a9-9bad-1673fbf91b59[/URL]

We agreed on 400 ppm, I had some doubts about her profile so I asked her for a platonic meet & greet. One hour before the meeting she asked me if she'll get an allowance. I told her that for this meet no, however, if we have chemistry we can book a hotel and get this into a ppm meeting. She replied that she's not looking to have sex for money and wants a 'real sugar daddy'. LOL!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/95bdee8f-16c0-4f1c-8a2f-421eafa6ee74[/URL]

The pics she sent are not very flattering. Seemed a bit like a scam though, very open menu (including BBFS). I didn't follow through to meet her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a1ddc8ed-3f57-4507-a849-5d4ee34626d1[/URL]

She talks a bit game, wants 500-600 ppm. Met her for a coffee and well, didn't find her attractive at all (think missing teeth LOL).

And the GPS Oscars go to:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45aae19e-2e51-49d0-89cb-54e2205353e5[/URL]

Wants between 500-1000 ppm, but everything covered. Asked for BBBJ, she cursed me LOL!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4cf3bc2d-f662-4e7a-a145-4870bcb1b22f[/URL]

Ppm minimum 800, CBJ and CFS (might go for BBBJ if you become a long term partner).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e0db5886-2d45-4877-9e0f-56170d11e644[/URL]

Says she's visiting Boston, seems real, but 1500 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1ae5e083-423f-4c56-b9e8-1ba13b80bb40[/URL]

She "wouldn't trouble" herself for anything less than 750.

And finally a question. Has anyone interacted with [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ad961b7-c2ba-472c-88c9-121588a681d5[/URL] ? I might TOFTT with her.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/405e4102-b9c9-43b6-9704-52f674b1575b[/URL]

Uses a 302 area code. Will then try to blackmail you showing you info from public data sites and farmed connection content from social media. Is actually a really ugly looking gay black dude or trans or something pathetic. Was able to find his real info and that got him to shut up real quick.

[QUOTE=Chuchunga;6846271][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/405e4102-b9c9-43b6-9704-52f674b1575b[/URL]

Uses a 302 area code. Will then try to blackmail you showing you info from public data sites and farmed connection content from social media. Is actually a really ugly looking gay black dude or trans or something pathetic. Was able to find his real info and that got him to shut up real quick.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Almost pulled the trigger on this one.

How did they tie anything back to the real you?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e35ea0ba-258b-4a88-8ea4-bdc9b95e853a[/URL]

Pretty girl but sketchy on actually doing something mutually beneficial. Leans more platonic with excuses. Can send info if anyone else wants to take a shot.

I've been chatting off SA with Havana Hot Love, a sexy Latina who says she's originally from Cuba and splits her time between Mass, Miami, and Cuba. Her story makes zero sense, which is why I haven't bothered to set up a time to meet her. I also think there are a few mixed reviews of her, but I can't find them. Something seems totally off.

Anyone?

Apologies, I don't have her SA profile link.

See post #9015. She's nice, hopefully you get more out of her than me.

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;6844045]
And finally a question. Has anyone interacted with [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ad961b7-c2ba-472c-88c9-121588a681d5[/URL] ? I might TOFTT with her.[/QUOTE]

Hey all. Coming to Boston for a work thing. I usually work and meet of seeking. Can someone refer a nice white (prefer blonde, redhead or brunette) who can outcall to my hotel? You can DM me and I can hit them up on seeking. Will put in a word for you for making the introduction. I have closed 90% of the dates from seeking.

Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=JClearMan1;6856311]I swear one of you reviewed her before, but I can't find the review.[/QUOTE]If girl like this or on seeking ill join. I think this is my next step.

Pig Butchering Scam: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu-Y1h9rTUs.[/URL].

Go to 8:37 - See the actual scripts they've been using.

I have personally experienced some of these exact same statements & phrases.

I put this in the wrong section earlier. This was more for the Seeking site.

[QUOTE=JClearMan1;6856311]I swear one of you reviewed her before, but I can't find the review.[/QUOTE]Sylvester Stallone look alike.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc1141ba-e233-4108-b997-15f6f9ea3190[/URL]

Been talking to her, anyone have insight?

[QUOTE=DreplyNow;6859028]Pig Butchering Scam: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu-Y1h9rTUs.[/URL].

Go to 8:37 - See the actual scripts they've been using.

I have personally experienced some of these exact same statements & phrases.

I put this in the wrong section earlier. This was more for the Seeking site.[/QUOTE]Damn I've been meaning to watch that video. Saved it to my Watch Later. Love that guy's work but I've had that happen too mostly from the "Colombia" or "Venezuela" SB's who favorite me and either ask for "online fun" or "what I'm looking for". Most are discoverable through reverse image search on Google and for those who answer a WhatsApp call or Snapchat call and simply say hi and bye are big time scammers too. Think with the big head gents.

[QUOTE=BDingas;6861930][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc1141ba-e233-4108-b997-15f6f9ea3190[/URL]

Been talking to her, anyone have insight?[/QUOTE]No insight at all however I have a feeling she won't talk to you for less than $1 K and she states no PPm which means allowance, which means GPS. Good luck and report back what she expects her "gift" to be.

[QUOTE=Joe1223;6862051]No insight at all however I have a feeling she won't talk to you for less than $1 K and she states no PPm which means allowance, which means GPS. Good luck and report back what she expects her "gift" to be.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reddit.com/user/Brief-Increase9066/submitted/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JClearMan1;6856311]I swear one of you reviewed her before, but I can't find the review.[/QUOTE]Also went by "rain". Bagged her for $500; short, LFK, great ass, squirter, BBBJ and CFS. She's not one for overtime tho and can be moody so YMMV.

How does an allowance even work? Let's say you agree on an amount. Are they expecting you to pay the full amount upfront each month or at the end of the month? Has anyone ever done it and how did it go? Feel free to PM.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6862781]How does an allowance even work? Let's say you agree on an amount. Are they expecting you to pay the full amount upfront each month or at the end of the month? Has anyone ever done it and how did it go? Feel free to PM.[/QUOTE]It doesn't work. PPM is the only way. Allowance is basically paying in advance. Never works. There's one on SA, absolute smoke show, hides her profile most of the time but last time it was visible there was a requirement that you will not mind if she has a boyfriend. In other word, you need to support the boyfriend too. LOL.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6862781]How does an allowance even work? Let's say you agree on an amount. Are they expecting you to pay the full amount upfront each month or at the end of the month? Has anyone ever done it and how did it go? Feel free to PM.[/QUOTE]The allowance works for the SB, I can see if you have been seeing someone for a while and want to make them permanent or your mistress, etc.

You would pay them up front for the month. Anytime you pay in advance you lose control and power of the situation.

Have talked with guys who have done allowance after seeing someone for an amount of time and what usually happens is they seem to get busy and.

Have less time to see you, even though you have paid her already and or set parameters of the deal.

I have seen some SB's for a year or two and it was always ppm, as I am busy with things and really did not know how much time I would have.

Month to month to meet up. Never had any issue with them, the long term one's, had some short term SB's who pushed for it and I just dropped them.

Also this was mostly before covid, one was after. Now things have seemed to change for the most part and how the women were on there is not how they are now.

You could find good women there much more easily, now lots of them looking for online / text only and want to be paid LOL.

Want to sell you pics / vids only, want allowance only no ppm, want you to pay them for a meet and greet thinking their time is more valuable than yours.

The whole attitude of most women on there truly sucks to be honest, add in lots of GPS also. A 6 thinks they are a 9 and wants 600 LOL.

There are some good one's there just much more difficult to find and there are many guys on there who pay whatever so they inflate the price of all SB's.

By paying a 6 like a 9.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6862781]How does an allowance even work? Let's say you agree on an amount. Are they expecting you to pay the full amount upfront each month or at the end of the month? Has anyone ever done it and how did it go? Feel free to PM.[/QUOTE]No, it does not work. And you will need to explain to the SB why it does not. The SB feel ripped off if you visit too much and the SD feels ripped off if he cannot visit enough.

Tell her it is an allowance per visit or something. Some acceptably worded version of PPM. Tell her the reason is fairness.

[QUOTE=Spill;6863448]No, it does not work. And you will need to explain to the SB why it does not. The SB feel ripped off if you visit too much and the SD feels ripped off if he cannot visit enough.

Tell her it is an allowance per visit or something. Some acceptably worded version of PPM. Tell her the reason is fairness.[/QUOTE]Agree with everyone saying an allowance doesn't work and just want to emphasize a key point that Spill touched on when he said "acceptably worded", some girls just use the term "allowance" because it feels less transactional or to translate, it helps them feel less like a prostitute, so sure, girls can use the word "allowance" with me but I always make it clear that I want to meet once a week and if we don't meet they don't get paid.

[QUOTE=FrogPilot;6863648]Agree with everyone saying an allowance doesn't work and just want to emphasize a key point that Spill touched on when he said "acceptably worded", some girls just use the term "allowance" because it feels less transactional or to translate, it helps them feel less like a prostitute, so sure, girls can use the word "allowance" with me but I always make it clear that I want to meet once a week and if we don't meet they don't get paid.[/QUOTE]Yeah I think they use to term to emphasize getting dough for fun; when I use PPM with some girls they have no idea what it means. I think some use it as a blanket term; others of course do have the PPS and actually except the monthly stipend.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist420;6864498]Yeah I think they use to term to emphasize getting dough for fun; when I use PPM with some girls they have no idea what it means. I think some use it as a blanket term; others of course do have the PPS and actually except the monthly stipend.[/QUOTE]I always use "gift" as the introduction especially with the very young or "newbies" as they are not always aware of PPM. I typically follow up with the gift can be cash or can be other things depending on what they prefer. 99% of my experiences they always take the cash LOL.

I've always been lucky here on SA. The well has dried up. Every 1 girl you legitimately meet is covered by 10 scam accounts. Girls asking for money half up and half later (scam), and just absolutely asking for insane allowance. I've been lucky to have been with women here that I haven't even had to gift anything for, but this has gotten terrible. The well has dried up. People paying 600 1 k, you've dried it up. BTW, if you can even find a real person now.

[QUOTE=Papa2314;6865608]I've always been lucky here on SA. The well has dried up. Every 1 girl you legitimately meet is covered by 10 scam accounts. Girls asking for money half up and half later (scam), and just absolutely asking for insane allowance. I've been lucky to have been with women here that I haven't even had to gift anything for, but this has gotten terrible. The well has dried up. People paying 600 1 k, you've dried it up. BTW, if you can even find a real person now.[/QUOTE]I'm feeling the same. It is soooo much work just to find anything at all. Probably won't renew.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6865620]I'm feeling the same. It is soooo much work just to find anything at all. Probably won't renew.[/QUOTE]I feel that we should join up, and go out to a place and just do pickup. I confidentially have a pickup coaching course for men, and I do it. It's just seeking and this lifestyle was simple before, now it's just bullshri. Even women when you go out now, here they're entitled so it's been a learning curve for me and my students. It's been difficult but hey, we still have success.

[QUOTE=Spill;6863448]No, it does not work. And you will need to explain to the SB why it does not. The SB feel ripped off if you visit too much and the SD feels ripped off if he cannot visit enough.

Tell her it is an allowance per visit or something. Some acceptably worded version of PPM. Tell her the reason is fairness.[/QUOTE]Can confirm the time I tried it got ghosted. Was seeing one SB for around 8 months and she asked for an allowance. Told me we were exclusive BBFS etc. Saw her 1 time after that which also had me giving some money for the holiday and then ghosted. We were at 500 ppm 1-2 times a week so you can guess what the allowance equated to. Painful lesson but deep down I kind of figured it would happen.

I have been perusing the offerings on SA, and have decided that this is what I am looking for:

I need to find an entrepreneur, preferably one who knows her worth and gives great advice. Ideally this person would be seeking mentorship.

Any leads?

Lololololololol.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6865620]I'm feeling the same. It is soooo much work just to find anything at all. Probably won't renew.[/QUOTE]It's the Boston or MA area. RI and TX I've had great success with woman on here ranging from 2 to 400 PPM. 5 ish with hotel and dinner sometimes for the ones I want to treat but to each their own I suppose. There is a lot of scammers and a few I've talked with that are GPS but you just move on. LOL To the guy selling his course on here, talking with some of my SB's most of these guys are old and creepy so don't think the course will benefit but hey got to hustle so more power to you too.

[QUOTE=Papa2314;6865608]I've always been lucky here on SA. The well has dried up. Every 1 girl you legitimately meet is covered by 10 scam accounts. Girls asking for money half up and half later (scam), and just absolutely asking for insane allowance. I've been lucky to have been with women here that I haven't even had to gift anything for, but this has gotten terrible. The well has dried up. People paying 600 1 k, you've dried it up. BTW, if you can even find a real person now.[/QUOTE]Naw, I'm swamped right now. Paying $200-$300 per date, several times a week to different gals I've lined up recently. It's becoming a hassle, but my dick demands it.

[QUOTE=Joe1223;6864740]I always use "gift" as the introduction especially with the very young or "newbies" as they are not always aware of PPM. I typically follow up with the gift can be cash or can be other things depending on what they prefer. 99% of my experiences they always take the cash LOL.[/QUOTE]Same here, I use "gift", as in: "I will give you a $_ gift every time we meet, which is hopefully once a week, every week. " That has never been met with a negative response.

[QUOTE=JClearMan1;6867588]Naw, I'm swamped right now. Paying $200-$300 per date, several times a week to different gals I've lined up recently. It's becoming a hassle, but my dick demands it.[/QUOTE]We need you to share some of your throwaways with us 🙂.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6867658]We need you to share some of your throwaways with us 🙂.[/QUOTE]Why do you him to share girls he sees on seeking. Join the site and message woman yourself and get dates. Man if you people are to cheap to pay for a month to fuck hot woman then you couldn't afford to see them anyway.

[QUOTE=AcknowledgeMe;6867731]Why do you him to share girls he sees on seeking. Join the site and message woman yourself and get dates. Man if you people are to cheap to pay for a month to fuck hot woman then you couldn't afford to see them anyway.[/QUOTE]I'm a paid member of the site. I'm not asking for numbers just to point us to the girls he's found for 200-300. Isn't that what this forum is for? Chill my brother.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6868080]I'm a paid member of the site. I'm not asking for numbers just to point us to the girls he's found for 200-300. Isn't that what this forum is for? Chill my brother.[/QUOTE]Sorry thought you weren't a member. All I get in my inbox and dudes wanting numbers from seeking chicks because there to cheap to pay for the site. It annoys me.

[QUOTE=AcknowledgeMe;6867731]Why do you him to share girls he sees on seeking. Join the site and message woman yourself and get dates. Man if you people are to cheap to pay for a month to fuck hot woman then you couldn't afford to see them anyway.[/QUOTE]Makes me think you're not having what you say you're having. Share with the group or stop hate talking in general.

[QUOTE=Papa2314;6868424]Makes me think you're not having what you say you're having. Share with the group or stop hate talking in general.[/QUOTE]Share so they mess it up? Naw. Most of these girls aren't escort like and want a situationship type deal too not just paid to give it up which floats my boat. You'll see the escort like ones posted I'm sure of that so no need to be flustered.

[QUOTE=EmvLa;6868978]Share so they mess it up? Naw. Most of these girls aren't escort like and want a situationship type deal too not just paid to give it up which floats my boat. You'll see the escort like ones posted I'm sure of that so no need to be flustered.[/QUOTE]He is not asking for numbers (which are not going to work anyway). Just a profile name or link. They will still have to work for it. The aholes that will mess it up are not going to get the time of day from these SBs anyway.