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All Set
Bob you have painted a clear picture and given out the working prototype. It would be a sin not to go ahead and execute it. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2749218]I was in there once, (Driving a friend around who was looking for a job). Did not get a massage since I was already with a woman. They do have some privacy. I did not notice any rooms with doors. But the body massage, almost guarantees there is at least one private room. In the case of Yu's and Lux, you can simply get an appointment for a foot massage, (which is 40min body and 20min foot) but [U]ask ahead of time[/U] for a single room. I always make appointments so I can get a particular person in a particular room. Another P.S., in the case of Lux and Yu's. The girls share a house nearby and they each get one (different) day off each week. After you establish a rapport, you can see them on their day off. Drive them around on errands, shopping, etc. Then, eventually a hotel becomes part of the day-off activities. You really should not expect extras in the spa itself, well. Probably not. Bob.[/QUOTE]
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RE: All Set
I guess I'll be a sinner. I've got way better things to do than chauffeur a woman around on her day off, having deep and meaningful conversations with her telephone. Until the battery dies.
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2749431]Bob you have painted a clear picture and given out the working prototype. It would be a sin not to go ahead and execute it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Foot Spa
[URL]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5394010910.html[/URL] Lebruno, it look's like today is your lucky day. This is a new ad that I have never seen before. I hope that this help's you in executing your plan. Tonight when I was out, I used some of the advice that Bob521 has given me. All I can say is WOW. I owe that man a case of beer. SaintChuck.
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[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2749669][URL]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5394010910.html[/URL] Lebruno, it look's like today is your lucky day. This is a new ad that I have never seen before. I hope that this help's you in executing your plan. Tonight when I was out, I used some of the advice that Bob521 has given me. All I can say is WOW. I owe that man a case of beer. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Let me add a case to that as well. Bob's advice is solid.
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The logistics of this are challenging. I went to one of my regular spots recently. Both ladies I usually see were off or maybe gone. The lady who answered who was working did not speak any English and was using a translator app.
I spoke into her phone and asked if she was the only one working. It took four tries to get a decent enough translation to answer that simple question. I can't imagine having a conversation over lunch like that.
[QUOTE=WhiteRookDown;2749651]I guess I'll be a sinner. I've got way better things to do than chauffeur a woman around on her day off, having deep and meaningful conversations with her telephone. Until the battery dies.[/QUOTE]
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Connie
Connie from Ivy is back as an independent. I got call from her maybe three weeks ago to tell me she's back. Didn't get into specifics on menu and pricing, haven't seen her yet, can any one pm me this info thanks.
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What info? You got the phone call.
[QUOTE=Langley08;2750210]Connie from Ivy is back as an independent. I got call from her maybe three weeks ago to tell me she's back. Didn't get into specifics on menu and pricing, haven't seen her yet, can any one pm me this info thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Disadvantages
My route is very challenging, I will admit. Takes a toll emotionally, time wise, and physically. I speak so much (caveman) Chinese to so many women that I once answered my wife in Chinese without thinking about it. Anyway, I must say sometimes I go into a place with no intention of forming a relationship. It's nice not to have to think so hard. But it's not as much fun either. Bob.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2749919]The logistics of this are challenging. I went to one of my regular spots recently. Both ladies I usually see were off or maybe gone. The lady who answered who was working did not speak any English and was using a translator app.
I spoke into her phone and asked if she was the only one working. It took four tries to get a decent enough translation to answer that simple question. I can't imagine having a conversation over lunch like that.[/QUOTE]
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Been There
This particular spa is small. One room with curtains. It is about 1 mile east of Yu's Spa (next to the Jewel on Dundee Road). I suggest trying Yu's spa instead as it does have one private room. Bob.
[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2749669][URL]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5394010910.html[/URL] Lebruno, it look's like today is your lucky day. This is a new ad that I have never seen before. I hope that this help's you in executing your plan. Tonight when I was out, I used some of the advice that Bob521 has given me. All I can say is WOW. I owe that man a case of beer. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]
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Footspa
SaintChuck did you use Bob's advice at this foot spa or elsewhere? This spa is within my vicinity and I plan to try it out for sure along with Bob's recommendation by Jewel. If you did try this place do let us know if it was worth it. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2749669][URL]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5394010910.html[/URL] Lebruno, it look's like today is your lucky day. This is a new ad that I have never seen before. I hope that this help's you in executing your plan. Tonight when I was out, I used some of the advice that Bob521 has given me. All I can say is WOW. I owe that man a case of beer. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]
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Foot Spa
Lebruno, I didn't go to either foot spa. I put the 2 post's up about the foot spa's because you stated that you were looking for a foot spa. Me personally, I can't go to a foot spa. I was able to use Bob521's advice at a regular AMP. I hope that the 2 ad's I posted can be helpful to you. SaintChuck.
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Asking
[QUOTE=Langley08;2750210]Connie from Ivy is back as an independent. I got call from her maybe three weeks ago to tell me she's back. Didn't get into specifics on menu and pricing, haven't seen her yet, can any one pm me this info thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm asking for info from people who have seen her since she has be back. I can not share her number unless she tells me it's ok.
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Other foot spas
[QUOTE=Bob521;2748705]Try Yu's spa in Palatine (on Dundee, next to the Jewel). And Lux Foot Spa in Glenview, MKE ave just south of Lake st.
Same owner both places. In the course of three years I had three friends, One at Lux and two at Yu's. They lived in the same house together and I Wechatted with them, sometimes at the same time. Even went to the house once. I had to keep track of everybody's schedule so I would not see two at the same time. Very stressful. One day the scheduler screwed up and sent me into the wrong room. Both girls got pissed. Eventually, we all made up. One moved to California, and we stay in touch. She invited me to dinner at her house. The other moved to a shop in St Charles. (shhh!) The third lives in Chinatown now. See her weekly, and chat nightly.
Sadly, I'm no longer welcome at these places. Owner caught me in a very compromised position once. It's a shame because both places are really decent. $29 for a massage. Tip as you like. But I can tell you a $30 tip will go a long way toward building a close rapport. That and speaking a little Chinese. Bring your translator. Pick a favorite woman and build from there. Bob.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your advice, Bob. Just one question. Do you know any foot spas in the Lombard / LisleNaperville areas with private rooms? I have only found ones with open areas. I do have a good rapport with the owner and one of the masseuses at one but I haven't asked to see her on her day off yet.
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Foot spa
I went to this place. Strictly legit.
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2750736]SaintChuck did you use Bob's advice at this foot spa or elsewhere? This spa is within my vicinity and I plan to try it out for sure along with Bob's recommendation by Jewel. If you did try this place do let us know if it was worth it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Yes Legit
I'm sorry if I made it sound like these places are HE places. What I've done is make friends with legit therapists. Over time, we would start playing with each other in the spa and also on days off. This happened with five different girls at three different foot spas. I could add a couple more that were legit regular massage places.
So why foot places? Because the cost to visit is $29. The massage is usually decent. If you click with the girl, you start coming back. Even weekly. If you don't click then you are out $29 and maybe a $10 tip. Bob.
[QUOTE=ChiHappiness;2751465]I went to this place. Strictly legit.[/QUOTE]
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Foot Spa
Last I knew, there is a foot spa at 1234 W. Ogden in Naperville. Haven't checked any ads for the place lately, but I'll guess it's still there. They have private rooms. Not that it matters. The talent seem to be shapeless, sexless women. The price is $28 an hour if I recall correctly. No interest to me. I don't want to see them in the parlor, sure as hell wouldn't want to see them outside of it.
[QUOTE=CJ1976;2751269]Thank you for your advice, Bob. Just one question. Do you know any foot spas in the Lombard / LisleNaperville areas with private rooms? I have only found ones with open areas. I do have a good rapport with the owner and one of the masseuses at one but I haven't asked to see her on her day off yet.[/QUOTE]
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Bensenville
Stopped by Beauty Spa in Bensenville yesterday afternoon and had to wait inside a room for about 20 minutes as there was only one girl working, Grace. Looked about 40, very accommodating, oil everywhere, no towel, didn't hesitate making me happy. Half hour is a good deal at 0. 4.
Be safe, Stan.
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[QUOTE=CJ1976;2751269]Thank you for your advice, Bob. Just one question. Do you know any foot spas in the Lombard / LisleNaperville areas with private rooms? I have only found ones with open areas. I do have a good rapport with the owner and one of the masseuses at one but I haven't asked to see her on her day off yet.[/QUOTE]There is a foot spa in Naperville at Ogden & Naper Blvd in the same shopping center as the H-Mart. It's tucked away in the corner next to the Ogden 6 Cinema. Don't know if they have private rooms but they are open for business.
Don't be afraid to talk it up with the girls. Once you become a regular and they trust you, you never know where it may lead.
AJ.
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Private Room in Foot Spa
To clarify my prior statement. The reason for the private room, as least initially, is so you can talk to the girl. (It's harder to talk in a big room.) On follow-up visits, you can do more. But basically it is teasing. Don't expect HE during the massage session. That's for her day off. My girlfriend and I. Was an exception. HE, BJ, FS. Numerous times with a curtain door and half walls. But, we got caught. I was banned. (Ironically, after a couple of months they took her back.) Don't recommend getting caught. Not fair to the girl to get her fired. Bob.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2762069]There is a foot spa in Naperville at Ogden & Naper Blvd in the same shopping center as the H-Mart. It's tucked away in the corner next to the Ogden 6 Cinema. Don't know if they have private rooms but they are open for business.
Don't be afraid to talk it up with the girls. Once you become a regular and they trust you, you never know where it may lead.
AJ.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bob521;2762180]To clarify my prior statement. The reason for the private room, as least initially, is so you can talk to the girl. (It's harder to talk in a big room.) On follow-up visits, you can do more. But basically it is teasing. Don't expect HE during the massage session. That's for her day off. My girlfriend and I. Was an exception. HE, BJ, FS. Numerous times with a curtain door and half walls. But, we got caught. I was banned. (Ironically, after a couple of months they took her back.) Don't recommend getting caught. Not fair to the girl to get her fired. Bob.[/QUOTE]At least she got her job back, that's a good thing. May also be a good thing that you got your ass banned because that opens the door for you to see her privately elsewhere, like at a hotel. What ended up as a bad thing might have worked to both of your advantage. She gets her job back and you get to see her privately. LOL.
The "venture" is going very well. PM you next week about it.
AJ.
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[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2762069]There is a foot spa in Naperville at Ogden & Naper Blvd in the same shopping center as the H-Mart. It's tucked away in the corner next to the Ogden 6 Cinema. Don't know if they have private rooms but they are open for business.
Don't be afraid to talk it up with the girls. Once you become a regular and they trust you, you never know where it may lead.
AJ.[/QUOTE]Correction to my post.
Pine Tree foot massage is located in the shopping mall at Ogden & Naperville-Wheaton Rd. It is NOT located at Ogden & Naper Blvd. Sorry for any inconvenience.
AJ.
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Pt
I have been visiting PT alot since I'm not going back to Ivy and I have enjoyed the variety of girls. The last few girls I have had the pleasure of seeing have been great. Young, thin spinner types with okay massages. The last one I saw wasn't that great, April. Older than the rest and really not into it. Terrible massage and just very mechanical standard finish for PT.
Overall score for visit 6, looks 6, massage 5, finish 7.
Has anyone requested a girl by name at PT? I tried requesting a particular girl from Mamasan and she told me "you get who you get, first available". I was hoping for the frequent flier request benefit but didn't get it.
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You will get "who's up next" unless you are a regular, have a name, AND that provider is not busy.
[QUOTE=AlBundy78;2782187]I have been visiting PT alot since I'm not going back to Ivy and I have enjoyed the variety of girls. The last few girls I have had the pleasure of seeing have been great. Young, thin spinner types with okay massages. The last one I saw wasn't that great, April. Older than the rest and really not into it. Terrible massage and just very mechanical standard finish for PT.
Overall score for visit 6, looks 6, massage 5, finish 7.
Has anyone requested a girl by name at PT? I tried requesting a particular girl from Mamasan and she told me "you get who you get, first available". I was hoping for the frequent flier request benefit but didn't get it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2783458]You will get "who's up next" unless you are a regular, have a name, AND that provider is not busy.[/QUOTE]I always thought that was the standard operating procedure at AMP's then I read someone on here saying you could request a gal at Pine Tree which surprised me. After reading this latest report- it sounds like that's incorrect. I had Chanel (I think that was her name) and wasn't very impressed during my only time there. I guess she's not one of the better ones. If I lived closer I'd be more likely to give it another shot, but it's a far drive for me to risk not getting who I want. Not to mention it's my hard earned money. I always hated that aspect of AMP's. At least with the Euro and American places you can choose your gal.
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The last time I was there I asked for Joanne. She was busy but MMS said if I wanted to wait for her to free up I could. I went with someone else and wish I would have waited.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2783539]I always thought that was the standard operating procedure at AMP's then I read someone on here saying you could request a gal at Pine Tree which surprised me. After reading this latest report- it sounds like that's incorrect. I had Chanel (I think that was her name) and wasn't very impressed during my only time there. I guess she's not one of the better ones. If I lived closer I'd be more likely to give it another shot, but it's a far drive for me to risk not getting who I want. Not to mention it's my hard earned money. I always hated that aspect of AMP's. At least with the Euro and American places you can choose your gal.[/QUOTE]
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Choosing the MT
I know that Euros and American you can set an appointment with a specific woman. In fact they fight over regulars and sometimes try to snag away other clients by saying "she's not there". You can generally get an appointment at a Chinese place with a specific girl. I contact the girl via WeChat before I call the owner for the appointment. Usually Euro and Chinese places honor the full hour and take the massage part of the appointment seriously. (Usually). But the Korean places (I think) are less inclined to honor specific appointments for specific girls. And less likely to always give a full hour. They make a LOT more money doing two guys in two half hours vs one guy in one hour. So they prefer walk-ins and assembly line process. I'm generalizing. But that's my sense. Bob.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2783539]I always thought that was the standard operating procedure at AMP's then I read someone on here saying you could request a gal at Pine Tree which surprised me. After reading this latest report- it sounds like that's incorrect. I had Chanel (I think that was her name) and wasn't very impressed during my only time there. I guess she's not one of the better ones. If I lived closer I'd be more likely to give it another shot, but it's a far drive for me to risk not getting who I want. Not to mention it's my hard earned money. I always hated that aspect of AMP's. At least with the Euro and American places you can choose your gal.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2783738]The last time I was there I asked for Joanne. She was busy but MMS said if I wanted to wait for her to free up I could. I went with someone else and wish I would have waited.[/QUOTE]What's the line up at PT now? Is there Anyone worth making an appointment with? I haven't been for awhile because poor service. Before when they had some good ones, as a regular I was usually able to see the girl I wanted as long as they weren't busy as hell. Also if you call and get Joanne on the phone she will help. Funny Joanne still there, she could be sweetheart or a real *.
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Sun Spa
Last week I had the opportunity to visit some clients close to Glen Ellyn so being that the wife is out of town now for 2 weeks visiting her parents with our little one I decided to stop at Sun for a regular massage. I have been there before and had good service but this time I just wanted a regular massage. I got a nice looking very thin girl named Anna or Ally or Alice and after telling her I just wanted a massage and nothing else she escorted me to a room where I got ready.
She took my money and left and as soon as she comes back in she starts with the upsell and must have asked 10 times if I want to be happy. I kept saying no, just a massage and all she ever did was to lightly rub my back. No effort whatsoever and certainly not a massage. I had paid 60 for an hour and after 35 minutes she says "ok massage done thank-you". Then she starts asking for a tip so I told her that I paid for 1 hour but only got 30 minute massage so keep the difference for her tip. She was not all too happy about this but I was smiling when I told her in Chinese that she had given me a bad massage. She then swore at me in Chinese and walked out LOL.
I got dressed and as I walked out past the front desk she was waiting for me and gave me some dirty looks. I said bye in Chinese and just smiled all the way out. Guess they didn't like just giving therapeutic massages there. But to be fair, they did give some good service when I had been there in the past.
Avg Joe.
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Fantastic. She swore at you in Chinese. If she would have give given you what you wanted, I'm guessing your tip would have been better. But being stupid she shorted you on time and forfeited her tip.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2787127]Last week I had the opportunity to visit some clients close to Glen Ellyn so being that the wife is out of town now for 2 weeks visiting her parents with our little one I decided to stop at Sun for a regular massage. I have been there before and had good service but this time I just wanted a regular massage. I got a nice looking very thin girl named Anna or Ally or Alice and after telling her I just wanted a massage and nothing else she escorted me to a room where I got ready.
She took my money and left and as soon as she comes back in she starts with the upsell and must have asked 10 times if I want to be happy. I kept saying no, just a massage and all she ever did was to lightly rub my back. No effort whatsoever and certainly not a massage. I had paid 60 for an hour and after 35 minutes she says "ok massage done thank-you". Then she starts asking for a tip so I told her that I paid for 1 hour but only got 30 minute massage so keep the difference for her tip. She was not all too happy about this but I was smiling when I told her in Chinese that she had given me a bad massage. She then swore at me in Chinese and walked out LOL.
I got dressed and as I walked out past the front desk she was waiting for me and gave me some dirty looks. I said bye in Chinese and just smiled all the way out. Guess they didn't like just giving therapeutic massages there. But to be fair, they did give some good service when I had been there in the past.
Avg Joe.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2787351]Fantastic. She swore at you in Chinese. If she would have give given you what you wanted, I'm guessing your tip would have been better. But being stupid she shorted you on time and forfeited her tip.[/QUOTE]Yes, my tip would have been 40 even if the massage had just been average. But, she put forth no effort whatsoever so I felt no responsibility to leave any kind of tip.
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Geased Pig
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2787529]Yes, my tip would have been 40 even if the massage had just been average. But, she put forth no effort whatsoever so I felt no responsibility to leave any kind of tip.[/QUOTE]I remember going there once 6 months ago. Massage was ok, Handshake was ok too. But was not offered table shower before or especially after, I felt like a greased pig, I was lucky that day that I had a change of clothes so I went to the gym to shower. Final Answer is not going back.
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Grease
I guess it belabors the point. But some places, just ask for light touch and no oil. They get the message immediately. For that matter, I also skip the table shower, and opt, instead to massage the girl in the room. One place (New Life in Mt Prospect) a year ago, I came in slightly before opening. Girl greets me. Asks: What do you want? I place two condoms on the table. Kissed her on the mouth and said let's fuck. As we undressed each other while kissing. The only stipulation was to keep everything secret from MS, since she was clearly freelancing. I even had to sneak all the used "supplies" out with me. But. Just skip the oil, unless you actually came there for a massage. Bob.
[QUOTE=Moccdawg;2787689]I remember going there once 6 months ago. Massage was ok, Handshake was ok too. But was not offered table shower before or especially after, I felt like a greased pig, I was lucky that day that I had a change of clothes so I went to the gym to shower. Final Answer is not going back.[/QUOTE]
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Jahu
[QUOTE=Moccdawg;2787689]I remember going there once 6 months ago. Massage was ok, Handshake was ok too. But was not offered table shower before or especially after, I felt like a greased pig, I was lucky that day that I had a change of clothes so I went to the gym to shower. Final Answer is not going back.[/QUOTE]Hey Mc dawg, They do not have a shower of any kind. I stopped going when Mila left. I wish I could fine her again.
PP.
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[QUOTE=Langley08;2750210]Connie from Ivy is back as an independent. I got call from her maybe three weeks ago to tell me she's back. Didn't get into specifics on menu and pricing, haven't seen her yet, can any one pm me this info thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I think I might have said something to wrong person or my post on here, but can't get a hold of her any more so I will not share her info without permission.
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[QUOTE=Langley08;2787819]Sorry, I think I might have said something to wrong person or my post on here, but can't get a hold of her any more so I will not share her info without permission.[/QUOTE]I don't think you said anything wrong in your post or pissed anyone off. But it is a good idea like you said to not share anyone's information without their permission before doing so.
Good call.
Avg Joe.
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Garden
Was in the DG area running errands and drove past Garden. Looked dead, but open sign was on. Parked and went inside. The only way I can describe the smell that hit me was stomach turning. I almost dry heaved when I walked in. I couldn't tell if it was bad food, sewer gas or a mix of several rotting corpses. MS came up to me and I pretended I forgot my $ in the car. Did a 180, walked out and left. No BS. The thought of the smell is making me gag a little right now.
I'd never been there before that attempt but my head will correlate that smell to that place until JM is himself a rotting corpse. No gracias.
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There are so many better places out there. Was there several years ago. Got Bonnie, average massage, no extras. There was a sign on the walls saying the place was monitored by DG LEO. Not impressed at all.
[QUOTE=JMarshall;2788693]Was in the DG area running errands and drove past Garden. Looked dead, but open sign was on. Parked and went inside. The only way I can describe the smell that hit me was stomach turning. I almost dry heaved when I walked in. I couldn't tell if it was bad food, sewer gas or a mix of several rotting corpses. MS came up to me and I pretended I forgot my $ in the car. Did a 180, walked out and left. No BS. The thought of the smell is making me gag a little right now.
I'd never been there before that attempt but my head will correlate that smell to that place until JM is himself a rotting corpse. No gracias.[/QUOTE]
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Last time I went, girl spoke no English, boring, and a clock watcher. Not impressed at all. Have not gone in a long time.
[QUOTE=PussyPoker;2787755]Hey Mc dawg, They do not have a shower of any kind. I stopped going when Mila left. I wish I could fine her again.
PP.[/QUOTE]
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Dodged a bullet
[QUOTE=JMarshall;2788693]Was in the DG area running errands and drove past Garden. Looked dead, but open sign was on. Parked and went inside. The only way I can describe the smell that hit me was stomach turning. I almost dry heaved when I walked in. I couldn't tell if it was bad food, sewer gas or a mix of several rotting corpses. MS came up to me and I pretended I forgot my $ in the car. Did a 180, walked out and left. No BS. The thought of the smell is making me gag a little right now.
I'd never been there before that attempt but my head will correlate that smell to that place until JM is himself a rotting corpse. No gracias.[/QUOTE]I'm with Dmichaels on this one. I went there a while back and the service was horrible. The lady was rude and shorted me on time. Never went back.
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Been there twice between Sept. And Dec. And always had a great full hour with no discussion about extra to start. I stopped going back due to the mixture of baby oil and lotion for massage. It left my skin feeling dirty for days after and my junk did not like that combo either. Got irritated after their massages.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2787127]Last week I had the opportunity to visit some clients close to Glen Ellyn so being that the wife is out of town now for 2 weeks visiting her parents with our little one I decided to stop at Sun for a regular massage. I have been there before and had good service but this time I just wanted a regular massage. I got a nice looking very thin girl named Anna or Ally or Alice and after telling her I just wanted a massage and nothing else she escorted me to a room where I got ready.
She took my money and left and as soon as she comes back in she starts with the upsell and must have asked 10 times if I want to be happy. I kept saying no, just a massage and all she ever did was to lightly rub my back. No effort whatsoever and certainly not a massage. I had paid 60 for an hour and after 35 minutes she says "ok massage done thank-you". Then she starts asking for a tip so I told her that I paid for 1 hour but only got 30 minute massage so keep the difference for her tip. She was not all too happy about this but I was smiling when I told her in Chinese that she had given me a bad massage. She then swore at me in Chinese and walked out LOL.
I got dressed and as I walked out past the front desk she was waiting for me and gave me some dirty looks. I said bye in Chinese and just smiled all the way out. Guess they didn't like just giving therapeutic massages there. But to be fair, they did give some good service when I had been there in the past.
Avg Joe.[/QUOTE]