Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=JoelTyson;4606372]Has anyone been to the AMPs that recently opened east of i25 and Arapahoe (one by the 1 up and one around Peoria and Arapahoe)?[/QUOTE]I work over that way and haven't noticed them. I'll have a look on my way in tomorrow.

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You post twice a year and you're posting about why guys shouldn't post?

Fuck off, I have enough assholes like you.

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Same to you, either answer the question or don't, the cops already knew where the place was and that they were selling pussy before any of you guys found it. You guys who try to be cute about locations aren't hiding anything from them.

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[QUOTE=JoelTyson;4606372]Has anyone been to the AMPs that recently opened east of i25 and Arapahoe (one by the 1 up and one around Peoria and Arapahoe)?[/QUOTE]What are the names of the places. I was planning on getting a massage either today or tomorrow in that area. So maybe I can toftt and check them out.

[QUOTE=HrnyDvl80;4608339]What are the names of the places. I was planning on getting a massage either today or tomorrow in that area. So maybe I can toftt and check them out.[/QUOTE]Not sure. Don't think the one by 1 up is even on google but easy to see if you see 1 up or the scuba shop. The other one is on the northeast corner.

[QUOTE=Cisco69;4584833]My info is at least 4 years old. However, try this: Hong Kong Massage 42X1 E Mississippi Ave.

Denver, CO, 80XX6 back then the providers were somewhat younger; 31-35; smaller, skinnier & cuter. Back then you didn't have to worry about a hard upsell; in fact, they are on the honor system. They just go for it, and depend on the customer to give an appropriate tip.

Noisy linoleum floor and doors with 3/4" gap at the bottom. I remember one visit where the gal (Pretended? That she had to really keep everything a secret from her coworkers, but that was just one time.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Might try it out while I'm there (will be in Denver next week. Would love a nice time).

[QUOTE=OldSailor;4587991]You will have to drive a bit. If you want to PM me some more detailed requirements, I can help more. If your willing to go 20 minutes /10 miles or so, the options really open up.

Are&T.

Mimi.

16 xx S. Albion St. (Colorado and Mexico).

Hong Kong.

42 xx E Mississippi Ave (Colorado and Mississippi).

Betty.

22 xx S Albion St (Colorado and Evans).[/QUOTE]Much thanks! Will look into all of those places. I also just PMed you. Thanks so much.

Anyone know if there is any way to get basic service for $70 total?

I'd be happy to leave a trip report after the recommendation.

Well, I was conflicted about posting this or not, but I figured I would have been armed with more info before my last encounter, so here goes. I saw this gal last week for a FBSM [URL]https://*************.com/users/115176[/URL] ; [URL]https://denver.rubratings.com/136533.[/URL] She required positive I'd before confirming my visit, so I confirmed with her using as little actual information as possible. Communication was good up and to the visit, everything went smooth. I walked in the door and this gal was really large, obviously the same girl in some of her pics online, but she had upsized considerably. I broke my leg the last week in December, so I was in desperate need of a good massage and some attention to other needs, so I opted to stay. The session was actually REALLY HOT, since I wasn't really inspired by her size, she had to work pretty hard to get me off, and she did so without complaint. I popped the first time probably 45 minutes into our hour session, but she wasn't satisfied with that and continued to pursue round 2. She was really worshiping my cock and I was thoroughly enjoying it. After probably another 1/2 hour I arrived at a second event, which pleased us both. She gave a passable massage to some troublesome spots for about another 15 minutes and then I got myself put back together and got out of there. The next day I posted a review on TOB where I gave a largely positive review, but mentioned that she had upsized quite a bit since the pictures in her profile were taken. This is where things came off the rails. Yesterday morning my phone starts blowing up from her, she was totally pissed about my review and made a bunch of threats and personal insults. I stayed calm and told her if she wanted to update her photos, I would take my comments about her size out of my review. Fast forward and that is what ended up happening and she ended up apologizing for the bitchy messages, but my problem is that she went from cocktologist to pshycho ***** in no time at all when I posted what I thought was a fair and accurate review. She's still got very misleading pictures up on rubratings, so I posted a review there but I'm considering pulling it after the shit-storm that ensued after my review on TOB. Be forewarned, this gal worked my junk like it hasn't been worked in a long time, but damn, the aftermath was not worth it. Safe mongering.

[QUOTE=JoelTyson;4608985]Not sure. Don't think the one by 1 up is even on google but easy to see if you see 1 up or the scuba shop. The other one is on the northeast corner.[/QUOTE]So, I toftt and went to the Asian massage place on the NE corner of Peoria and Arapahoe. It was legit for sure. Not even the slightest amount of tease. The massage was average at best. I also called the other place next to 1 up and a guy answered. I got the impression that it is a legit place too.

[QUOTE=HrnyDvl80;4614544]So, I toftt and went to the Asian massage place on the NE corner of Peoria and Arapahoe. It was legit for sure. Not even the slightest amount of tease. The massage was average at best. I also called the other place next to 1 up and a guy answered. I got the impression that it is a legit place too.[/QUOTE]That's too bad. Thanks for the report. Arapahoe road has roughly 10 parlors but only 2 that I know accept tips. One in a king's parking lot and one office building. Both I wouldn't recommend. Does anyone have anything good south of dtc?

[QUOTE=GoobyNight;4613383]Anyone know if there is any way to get basic service for $70 total?

I'd be happy to leave a trip report after the recommendation.[/QUOTE]80 to 90 seems to be the range.

Hi all,

Will be visiting soon and wondered if there are any places near coors field? Also any that offer both asian and latina?

Thanks and if you ever need help in my area don't hesitate to PM me.

Made a few trips to this place over the last couple of months and really enjoyed myself. Two ladies working there and the younger one (late 30's I'm guessing) has a way of really getting me turned on. The older of the two I've seen once and have a great massage and HE but wasn't super memorable.

I've seen the younger twice and on the first visit had a super nice time. Slight misunderstanding about the services provided and I paid too much but didn't regret it. Figured it would buy some good will and might lead to something more. The last visit (a week ago) was a ton of fun. Very liberal over the clothes touching allowed and hoped it would lead to more. This might not be for everyone but it felt like I was getting away with something I shouldn't have been doing and that can really get me going. On the flip she asked for a much larger tip and with the body language and contact I thought for sure more would be available but sadly I was mistaken. Got clarification this time and took some time to negotiate down and got the relief I was looking for.

I was super conflicted about this place. The younger lady teases in a way that drives me crazy but the tipping issues were a turn of. I'm happy with a standard HE but not willing to pay a premium for it, especially when there are so many other spots with better value. I won't be going back because I had a really bad allergic reaction to the oil that was used. Spent the next two days scratching myself until I was raw and bleeding in places. Thinking back I had mild reactions in the previous 2 visits but thought it was due to the weather and me spending too much time in the sauna. Those variables weren't in play last week.

This place is so convenient for me to get to and I really enjoy the service but I won't be going back.

[QUOTE=Insatiable1;4617808]Made a few trips to this place over the last couple of months and really enjoyed myself. Two ladies working there and the younger one (late 30's I'm guessing) has a way of really getting me turned on. The older of the two I've seen once and have a great massage and HE but wasn't super memorable.

I've seen the younger twice and on the first visit had a super nice time. Slight misunderstanding about the services provided and I paid too much but didn't regret it. Figured it would buy some good will and might lead to something more. The last visit (a week ago) was a ton of fun. Very liberal over the clothes touching allowed and hoped it would lead to more. This might not be for everyone but it felt like I was getting away with something I shouldn't have been doing and that can really get me going. On the flip she asked for a much larger tip and with the body language and contact I thought for sure more would be available but sadly I was mistaken. Got clarification this time and took some time to negotiate down and got the relief I was looking for.

I was super conflicted about this place. The younger lady teases in a way that drives me crazy but the tipping issues were a turn of. I'm happy with a standard HE but not willing to pay a premium for it, especially when there are so many other spots with better value. I won't be going back because I had a really bad allergic reaction to the oil that was used. Spent the next two days scratching myself until I was raw and bleeding in places. Thinking back I had mild reactions in the previous 2 visits but thought it was due to the weather and me spending too much time in the sauna..[/QUOTE]Thanks. Invaluable info.

Does anyone have experience at sole? I've tried for about a year now with no success. I'm turned away at the door and told they are fully booked. I call to no answer every time and have even changed my number and tried again with no answer? I've been really interested in this place but no one gives any advice or information on it.

Also what's up with rubmaps? Every other review is met with "fake review" "get out papasan". Etc. Why does rubmaps have such an agumentative format? I've been to Nagoya which was a perfectly fine FS parlor but reviews there are met with "nothing but old Granny's here" "fake review". In general, 90 percent of providers here are old but they are not that old. Maybe late 30's there and look decent. The same thing happens in another few parlors on that site where there's a clear split between opinions. It's so strange. This site has mostly supportive people giving accurate reviews so how is the experience so different especially since rubmaps has a monthly fee.

Excuse my poor spelling and grammar. I wrote this from my phone. Hopefully this doesn't break rules talking about another site but I assume it's allowed since rubmaps is sponsored on this site.

I wanted to try my first TS. I thought a place with "spa" in the name would help. Both locations are off Wads north of Colfax.

I tried Asian Touch. Doesn't get more suggestive than that. If memory serves, 60 min is. 6 and 90 min is. 8. I was greeted by a cute MT, maybe 45. The menu up front mentioned a salt scrub for $20 - I asked what it was, and she just asked if I wanted a massage. I asked again and pointed, she picked up the menu, said she wasn't sure, and pulled out her phone as if to translate. I asked if they have a TS, and she said no. While this happened, one gentleman left, another came in, and a 30-ish semi cute MT came from the back room. I asked her what the salt scrub was, and she said they don't offer it. Since her English was better, I double-checked if they do TS and she said no, only massage. While I was asking this, the other man left. The younger one asked if I wanted a massage, was very pushy, and I said no, I really had my heart set on a TS. She headed to the door, and I thought she was going to lock it and take me back, but she ran out side and yelled for the other guy to come back. She came in, scowling at me, said I caused her to lose a client. She asked if I wanted a massage or not, and I said no, not today, because today I wanted a TS. She told me not to waste her time and that it was my fault she lost a client. I told her all I was doing was finding out what they offered and there's nothing wrong with that. I feel like a "spa" should have more than massages, but oh well. Based on the foot traffic, I bet they offer extra services. But man, they were surly! I might try a a regular massage in a month or two, hoping they'll forget my face by then, even though I was polite and I "wasted" only three minutes of their time.

I drove nearly across the street to Ruby, met my first mms, maybe 60. They have a waiting area with an inner doorbell, and the door to the hallway joining the rest of the rooms is locked. Seemed interesting. They offer 60 min for. 6 and 90 min for 1 - odd pricing. I asked if I could get 90 min for. 8 and mms said no. I asked if they have TS and she said yes, sauna too. I went for 60 min, met MT Hey or Hay, semi-cute, maybe 45. She said she had been giving massages a long time but started there only 5 days ago. She had me lie down, then immediately get up for TS down the hall. One hand-held sprayer, no multiple shower heads. No mud, no special scrub, just a clean knit glove and some soap. She washed my backside, rinsed, washed my front, rinsed. She asked "no touchie?" and I said it was okay. She finished like a mom washing her toddler. I sat in the one-person sauna unit for maybe 6 minutes then she called me back to my room and I laid down. The massage was maybe the second best I've had (though I'm new at this): good pressure without pain, good time on the limbs, even walking on my legs and back with the aid of a support bar on the ceiling. There were 3-4 hot towels: she layered normal towels on me, then piping hot towels, and then an insulating blanket that she massaged and walked on me through. It was almost sauna-like under all that. Throughout the hour, I spread my legs a little, complimented her skill and appearance, and leaned my fingers or leg into her just a little when she was on the table with me, but no reaction and no special attention. When I assumed there was 15-20 min left, I asked how much was left and she said 5 min. I asked if I would leave fully relaxed. She didn't understand, so I said it slower, and she didn't answer and made a small huff I couldn't interpret one way or another. She finished with a pop off of each finger and my big toes, said twice she was all done, but wouldn't leave for me to change, staying to fold towels instead. Unsure, I waited until she left for a water bottle for me, but she came back in before I was half finished getting dressed. I pulled out. 1 for a tip, and she complained, asked for. 2. I told her. 1 was a good percentage (not that I think she understood), thanked her, and left. If they offer more, as the locked door to the hallway suggests, they didn't offer to me. Sauna was okay and TS was not at all what I had hoped, either for skin treatment or for fun. Mms was confusing, Hey was evasive, and I didn't like her attitude at the end. I won't go back.

Has anyone else been to Ruby and gotten more attention?

What can one expect from a good TS, and which places offer the best TSs?

My first two AMP experiences were at Phoenix. Semi-cute MT, 45, seems to be the only one there. I paid for an hour both times. As far as I can tell, she has her routine down to a science, as it was identical both times. Massage was decent, but hurt from pressure leaving tender areas I didn't want her to touch again. Multiple times I asked her to go softer. While I was lying face down, she was less than careful with how far north she massaged my legs, then pulled each leg out one at a time for a wider angle that allowed more northern "mistakes", and then straight up spent 50% of her time on "mistakes" for a few minutes, asking if it was okay. I said it felt fantastic. Hot towel, then flip, then a pointed finger asking if I wanted more. I'm probably after a lot less than most of you guys: you might say I want to leave extremely tense, not extremely relaxed (I want a good massage, but I also want someone skilled at adding the tension). I said yes to her question, but when I realized that meant HE, I stopped her. That was the end of the play, but the play before the flip both times was incredible. I tipped more than I would at a well-to-do MP, but less than I assume most of you guys do for extras. HE offered on the first visit is something, but for those curious, no extra menu offered, not even on the second visit.

Last experience, then I'll stop spamming you guys for the day.

I liked my trip to May. As best I can tell, May is the owner and sole employee. Maybe 45-50, not really cute, but fantastic friendly personality other than a rushed way about her outside of the massage itself. I paid for an hour, and the massage was the best I've received: excellent pressure but somehow without creating any tenderness. It was very relaxing, during and the full day after. There was some play before the flip, though not as blatant as at Phoenix. Standard hot towel, friendly encouragement from her in general. After the flip, she asked if I wanted a HE, trusting me without specifying payment. I said no, but almost. I had to explain a little bit. As I mentioned in the other post, I'm not asking for much extras. She pointed at my ring and said, "Ahh, you married!" with a playful smile and did an excellent job of continuing the massage with me facing up, spending time on my legs and elsewhere and making me extremely "tense". She was playful and fun and I did not feel rushed during the session. I tipped somewhere between good massage and HE. After it was over, I asked a few questions about what I could do next time, and if other people work there. I'm thinking she's the only one, day or night, no one younger or cuter, but she didn't want to talk and rushed me out the door. Figuring she was rushing for an appointment, I left and called back a couple of hours later, keeping my questions clean and asking if she had a TS and clarifying on other MTs, and she was equally rushed on the phone and hung up after maybe 25 seconds. Maybe she was watching something good on Netflix that day and wanted to get back to it.

I would go back: her personality was great, and she understood how much / little I wanted and gave me exactly that to make me very happy. And the massage was truly great by my few experiences. TS doesn't cost extra, but I want to know if it includes a mud or scrub, and also if it's playful. I might try that next time with a 90 min massage. And if I ever get the opportunity to go at 7:30 pm or later in the next few months, depending on someone else's slim social calendar, I'll scope out ifMay has a second shift of MTs.



I've read a lot on this thread about Evans and it's not far from me. I love the idea of younger, cuter MTs. But concerned if I'm only looking to leave "extremely tense" instead of "extremely relaxed". I consider that the mildest of extras, though I would pay a bit more for them to be dressed somewhat more like me. If I went to Evans, 1) would the massage portion be truly awful and / or short, and 2) would there be no playfulness or enthusiasm because the MTs would rather be earning a 1. 4 tip from someone else for a much larger service than I want?

[QUOTE=LochNess;4619956]Last experience, then I'll stop spamming you guys for the day.

I liked my trip to May. As best I can tell, May is the owner and sole employee. Maybe 45-50, not really cute, but fantastic friendly personality other than a rushed way about her outside of the massage itself. I paid for an hour, and the massage was the best I've received: excellent pressure but somehow without creating any tenderness. It was very relaxing, during and the full day after. There was some play before the flip, though not as blatant as at Phoenix. Standard hot towel, friendly encouragement from her in general. After the flip, she asked if I wanted a HE, trusting me without specifying payment. I said no, but almost. I had to explain a little bit. As I mentioned in the other post, I'm not asking for much extras. She pointed at my ring and said, "Ahh, you married!" with a playful smile and did an excellent job of continuing the massage with me facing up, spending time on my legs and elsewhere and making me extremely "tense". She was playful and fun and I did not feel rushed during the session. I tipped somewhere between good massage and HE. After it was over, I asked a few questions about what I could do next time, and if other people work there. I'm thinking she's the only one, day or night, no one younger or cuter, but she didn't want to talk and rushed me out the door. Figuring she was rushing for an appointment, I left and called back a couple of hours later, keeping my questions clean and asking if she had a TS and clarifying on other MTs, and she was equally rushed on the phone and hung up after maybe 25 seconds. Maybe she was watching something good on Netflix that day and wanted to get back to it.

I would go back: her personality was great, and she understood how much / little I wanted and gave me exactly that to make me very happy. And the massage was truly great by my few experiences. TS doesn't cost extra, but I want to know if it includes a mud or scrub, and also if it's playful. I might try that next time with a 90 min massage. And if I ever get the opportunity to go at 7:30 pm or later in the next few months, depending on someone else's slim social calendar, I'll scope out ifMay has a second shift of MTs.



I've read a lot on this thread about Evans and it's not far from me. I love the idea of younger, cuter MTs. But concerned if I'm only looking to leave "extremely tense" instead of "extremely relaxed". I consider that the mildest of extras, though I would pay a bit more for them to be dressed somewhat more like me. If I went to Evans, 1) would the massage portion be truly awful and / or short, and 2) would there be no playfulness or enthusiasm because the MTs would rather be earning a 1. 4 tip from someone else for a much larger service than I want?[/QUOTE]I've been to evans many times and recently turned in my punch card, ha. I could help but I'm not sure what your question is. What do you mean "leave extremely tense"? The massage is always ass and sometimes skipped all together. They do the light touching / nail rub thing and that's about all I ever get.

[QUOTE=Erevdi;4622097]I've been to evans many times and recently turned in my punch card, ha. I could help but I'm not sure what your question is. What do you mean "leave extremely tense"? The massage is always ass and sometimes skipped all together. They do the light touching / nail rub thing and that's about all I ever get.[/QUOTE]I want to get excited, very excited, but relieve myself at home. Following a good massage and all the time I paid for. Call it a semi-shy GFE. I'm gathering that's unusual on this board.

From what you said, I'm probably unlikely to leave with me or an Evans MT in a good mood, correct?

Any good options for cute MTs elsewhere? Or am I best off with places like May?

With this in mind, are my reviews still useful here?

[QUOTE=LochNess;4619956]

I would go back: her personality was great, and she understood how much / little I wanted and gave me exactly that to make me very happy. And the massage was truly great by my few experiences. TS doesn't cost extra, but I want to know if it includes a mud or scrub, and also if it's playful. I might try that next time with a 90 min massage. And if I ever get the opportunity to go at 7:30 pm or later in the next few months, depending on someone else's slim social calendar, I'll scope out if May has a second shift of MTs.
[/QUOTE]I think I understand what you want. I cannot think of any AMP that provide exactly that. Spa like TS with a mud scrub, some teasing to keep things "tense", good LMT massage, and no HE.

May. As far as I know, she is the only MT working there. I would say she is one of a few I know that might be able to provide most of what you are looking for. TS will include soap, maybe a loofa, probably a nylon body scrubber.

Angie at Pine Therapy. IF you communicate exactly what you want, UP FRONT, I'm sure she can get close to what you want. Except the TS is going to be a standard soapy TS. But she can be playful.

[QUOTE=Erevdi;4619074]
Also what's up with rubmaps? Every other review is met with "fake review" "get out papasan". Etc. Why does rubmaps have such an agumentative format? I've been to Nagoya which was a perfectly fine FS parlor but reviews there are met with "nothing but old Granny's here" "fake review". In general, 90 percent of providers here are old but they are not that old. Maybe late 30's there and look decent. The same thing happens in another few parlors on that site where there's a clear split between opinions. It's so strange. This site has mostly supportive people giving accurate reviews so how is the experience so different especially since rubmaps has a monthly fee.
[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, it seems rubmaps. Has a few posters that represent a few AMP's. So they tend to comment negatively on posts.

I take the comments very carefully, except for a few posters I trust. You will have to check out posting histories to weed out the chaff. It's a pain.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4622457]With this in mind, are my reviews still useful here?[/QUOTE]I think all reviews are useful.

Hola, fellow mongers! I recently visited Pure 1. Similar experience to other posts. Went for 1 hour at. 45 and Lilly brought me in started the massage, then someone came to the door. She left and Wendy came in and basically finished the massage. Lilly came back and got BBBJ, CFS, BBBJ then HJ finish. $ tip.

I recommended a friend to try and AMP and he had a similar experience to you so I'm going to try and relate to what you wrote and what he said.

First thing is that the place either offers extras or they don't. You can't woo them into doing it. Spreading legs, leaning, coping feels etc do nothing to help. You're either getting a HE or FS or nothing no matter what you do. If they offer HE or FS, they won't forget to offer it. That's how the MT makes her income. By the tip.

Next is language. They don't speak English very well or if any at all. They don't make the signs or the pricing. The owner makes that shit up and if it doesn't make sense, or they don't get it, then ignore it. If you call ahead and ask if they have a table shower, they know that question. Table shower = HE or FS. It just does. Korean = FS. It is known.

They are generally unhappy people. Who would be? They don't like any questions at all. But that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't ask any. I only like skinny MTs. I tell the MMS that she must be skinny and if mine isn't, then I ask for a lineup or someone else. Salt? Footrub? They might advertise that but they don't do that.

Saunas and hot tubs are time wasters so they don't have to touch you. Skip them.

Always start with honey, especially with the MMS. They love the honey talk. When you goto vinegar, you get no honey. Ever.

If someone gives you some bullshit (real bullshit), get upset. Get dressed. I'm calling the cops!

Don't get cheap on the tip. A massage is $50-60 for an hour. FS is $140-150. Your total outlay is $200. Saving $20-40 isn't worth a bad time when you're dropping over $100 anyhow. A good strategy is just give the MMS $200 upfront. You know what you're getting when you do that. My friend makes decent money but $20-40 isn't a big deal. But he tries to get out with some extra money and he never has as good a time as I do.

Specifically for Loch Ness, you're asking for edging I believe. That's full service. You want a blowjob or FS but not cum? Pay for the services and then stop her. They will never get this strange thing so don't try.

Finally, for $200, AMPs are a weird value. For $250-300, you can get a good escort and get what you want by who you want. For less, you get a little bit less.

Slow clap to you Mtnman. Slow clap indeed.

You just summed up the AMP world perfectly.

Denver AMP scene is pretty weak compared to places I have previously lived such as Dallas. Bigger city; better girls. There was this AMP girl in Dallas named Original Penny that might well have had the nicest ass this man has ever touched. Doggie with her was Nirvana. Mid 20's. Stacked. Striking looking, like honestly car show model looks. And she did not have any problem BBBJ, CIM and rimming for 45 minutes because that was what she had to do to make it in the Dallas AMP world.

Denver ain't Dallas.

We should continue to share when we find hot young ones and patronize then often. Only way to attract the better ladies to our fair burg.

[QUOTE=Mtnman2000;4623215]I recommended a friend to try and AMP and he had a similar experience to you so I'm going to try and relate to what you wrote and what he said.

First thing is that the place either offers extras or they don't. You can't woo them into doing it. Spreading legs, leaning, coping feels etc do nothing to help. You're either getting a HE or FS or nothing no matter what you do. If they offer HE or FS, they won't forget to offer it. That's how the MT makes her income. By the tip.

Next is language. They don't speak English very well or if any at all. They don't make the signs or the pricing. The owner makes that shit up and if it doesn't make sense, or they don't get it, then ignore it. If you call ahead and ask if they have a table shower, they know that question. Table shower = HE or FS. It just does. Korean = FS. It is known.

They are generally unhappy people. Who would be? They don't like any questions at all. But that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't ask any. I only like skinny MTs. I tell the MMS that she must be skinny and if mine isn't, then I ask for a lineup or someone else. Salt? Footrub? They might advertise that but they don't do that.

Saunas and hot tubs are time wasters so they don't have to touch you. Skip them.

Always start with honey, especially with the MMS. They love the honey talk. When you goto vinegar, you get no honey. Ever.

If someone gives you some bullshit (real bullshit), get upset. Get dressed. I'm calling the cops!

Don't get cheap on the tip. A massage is $50-60 for an hour. FS is $140-150. Your total outlay is $200. Saving $20-40 isn't worth a bad time when you're dropping over $100 anyhow. A good strategy is just give the MMS $200 upfront. You know what you're getting when you do that. My friend makes decent money but $20-40 isn't a big deal. But he tries to get out with some extra money and he never has as good a time as I do.

Specifically for Loch Ness, you're asking for edging I believe. That's full service. You want a blowjob or FS but not cum? Pay for the services and then stop her. They will never get this strange thing so don't try.

Finally, for $200, AMPs are a weird value. For $250-300, you can get a good escort and get what you want by who you want. For less, you get a little bit less.[/QUOTE]

I'm a trucker going to be in town for a day can anyone recommend a good parlor around the TA? Any deets would be great thanks. Be safe.

[QUOTE=JLove81;4624552]I'm a trucker going to be in town for a day can anyone recommend a good parlor around the TA? Any deets would be great thanks. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Due North on Quebec.

Blue Spa.

[URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-blue-spa-commerce-city-co-4337[/URL]

[QUOTE=OldSailor;4624585]Due North on Quebec.

Blue Spa.

[URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-blue-spa-commerce-city-co-4337[/URL][/QUOTE]Awesome thanks. I'm going to send you a pm.

[QUOTE=Mtnman2000;4623215]I recommended a friend to try and AMP and he had a similar experience to you so I'm going to try and relate to what you wrote and what he said.

First thing is that the place either offers extras or they don't. You can't woo them into doing it. Spreading legs, leaning, coping feels etc do nothing to help. You're either getting a HE or FS or nothing no matter what you do. If they offer HE or FS, they won't forget to offer it. That's how the MT makes her income. By the tip.

Next is language. They don't speak English very well or if any at all. They don't make the signs or the pricing. The owner makes that shit up and if it doesn't make sense, or they don't get it, then ignore it. If you call ahead and ask if they have a table shower, they know that question. Table shower = HE or FS. It just does. Korean = FS. It is known.

They are generally unhappy people. Who would be? They don't like any questions at all. But that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't ask any. I only like skinny MTs. I tell the MMS that she must be skinny and if mine isn't, then I ask for a lineup or someone else. Salt? Footrub? They might advertise that but they don't do that.[/QUOTE]Many thanks, Mountain Man. You were very thorough and I genuinely appreciate your time.

The salt scrub. I thought that was code for more. I HM'd in Thailand, and unless you went to a seedy MP that had its whole lineup on the front step, a basic massage was a brutish affair with a lady practically doing yoga on top of you. Extreme pressure through the thin scrubs they make you wear. Interest in tension aside, it was not pleasant for me. But!, if you opted for the oil massage at a higher price, you actually got hands on skin. Question for anyone: in Denver, do you find paying for publicly advertised extras helps in any way helps you leave more satisfied? Or do most choose the right place, book the minimum, and pay for the rest in the tip?

You mentioned that if they don't offer something, they don't do it. Others on this forum have mentioned not being offered services on their first visit, but they might if they see you are intentionally asking for it or if you return: this was my thought. And they offered and I received a TS, yet nothing else, so I'm not sure what to make of it. I read what you wrote about TS and Korean places.

I'm a kind person in general, and that doesn't change with a MMS or MT. I've never gone in bossy or rude, though I could see how the folks at Asian Touch might see otherwise, but that was just an honest mistake and I was still polite. Looking for kindness over rudeness is just a human thing. I almost married a Hmong girl, glad I didn't, and her whole family continuously seemed angry and they always talked with insults in a complain-why yell. But Thai culture is a lot kinder, for example. To me, a moody MT ruins the experience, and a sweet one genuinely makes it.

You mentioned giving generously to ensure a good time. Makes complete sense. If you give it all to the MMS, doesn't that mean the MT will see less or none of it? If you give to the MT after, then they obviously won't know what to expect. Is it best to give to the MMS or MT up front? Question for anyone.

I see what you mean about AMPs vs escorts and wouldn't blame anyone for going the other direction. But for what I'm asking for, and what the wife knows of, AMPs are the better choice for me.

No, I'm not after edging. I agree that that deserves a full tip because they're doing the full work. I'm just in it for the teasing before the flip, but 50% more blatant, and to continue in the same way after the flip. No HJ, BJ, or FS, just teasing mixed into the massage. I'm sure that puts me in the minority on this site, but that's what I like. It seems logical that that could be tipped less than a HJ tip as it is less, but a HJ tip is probably the best balance to show I'm interested, grateful, and will be happy to return. Any advice on negotiating that? Should I wait for the flip, tell the MT up front, or tell the MMS up front?

Thanks again! And happy hunting to you, my friend.

[QUOTE=OldSailor;4622494]I think I understand what you want. I cannot think of any AMP that provide exactly that. Spa like TS with a mud scrub, some teasing to keep things "tense", good LMT massage, and no HE.

May. As far as I know, she is the only MT working there. I would say she is one of a few I know that might be able to provide most of what you are looking for. TS will include soap, maybe a loofa, probably a nylon body scrubber.

Angie at Pine Therapy. IF you communicate exactly what you want, UP FRONT, I'm sure she can get close to what you want. Except the TS is going to be a standard soapy TS. But she can be playful.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Old Sailor!

After my first TS, I don't know that I'd try another unless I knew it would be genuinely more spa-like. Though Angie sounds delightful. Might make an exception for her. =].

Correct: I'm just after a quality massage and some teasing, nothing more, but willing to tip for it. With all the info on this forum, I'm thinking my difficulty is finding an establishment that straddles quality MTs with extras, not either one separately, and how to communicate what I want and to whom. How would you go about it: ask MMS or MT? At what point?

Question for anyone: how do you negotiate services at the front desk, especially when they just want to rush you back to a room? How do you ask for what you want without seeming like a nark?

[QUOTE=Mtnman2000;4623215]I recommended a friend to try and AMP and he had a similar experience to you so I'm going to try and relate to what you wrote and what he said.

First thing is that the place either offers extras or they don't. You can't woo them into doing it. Spreading legs, leaning, coping feels etc do nothing to help. You're either getting a HE or FS or nothing no matter what you do. If they offer HE or FS, they won't forget to offer it. That's how the MT makes her income. By the tip.

Next is language. They don't speak English very well or if any at all. They don't make the signs or the pricing. The owner makes that shit up and if it doesn't make sense, or they don't get it, then ignore it. If you call ahead and ask if they have a table shower, they know that question. Table shower = HE or FS. It just does. Korean = FS. It is known.

They are generally unhappy people. Who would be? They don't like any questions at all. But that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't ask any. I only like skinny MTs. I tell the MMS that she must be skinny and if mine isn't, then I ask for a lineup or someone else. Salt? Footrub? They might advertise that but they don't do that.

Saunas and hot tubs are time wasters so they don't have to touch you. Skip them.

Always start with honey, especially with the MMS. They love the honey talk. When you goto vinegar, you get no honey. Ever.

If someone gives you some bullshit (real bullshit), get upset. Get dressed. I'm calling the cops!

Don't get cheap on the tip. A massage is $50-60 for an hour. FS is $140-150. Your total outlay is $200. Saving $20-40 isn't worth a bad time when you're dropping over $100 anyhow. A good strategy is just give the MMS $200 upfront. You know what you're getting when you do that. My friend makes decent money but $20-40 isn't a big deal. But he tries to get out with some extra money and he never has as good a time as I do.

Specifically for Loch Ness, you're asking for edging I believe. That's full service. You want a blowjob or FS but not cum? Pay for the services and then stop her. They will never get this strange thing so don't try.

Finally, for $200, AMPs are a weird value. For $250-300, you can get a good escort and get what you want by who you want. For less, you get a little bit less.[/QUOTE]This should be pinned in all the Massage Parlor threads. Thanks!

I tried out Butterfly today and have really mixed feelings on it.

I paid up front for 90 min: . 75, gave. 8, didn't get change. I immediately, separately gave a. 4 tip. I thought this would help the MT warm to me, and she did. Lind (unsure of spelling), pretty cute for 45, was super sweet, super kind, very friendly, and we built immediate rapport. After I laid down, she said her boss came in and they had to run the numbers, wait 10 minutes, though she gave me a bowl of homemade dumplings for Chinese New Year (never had that happen before! She came back, massaged me for 10 min, then left saying someone with neck pain needed her for only 15 min, and it definitely would not come out of my time. She left a couple other times as well for a minute or two. She apologized, saying they were dead all day and now everyone was at the door.

Barely getting started, she told me I should give her a bigger tip and she'd make my time extra special. I tried to figure out what that meant (for you guys), but I gathered there's no FS at Butterfly, or at least with Lind. I told her the 1. 2 I gave her was all I had, and she said okay, because she liked me she'd make my time special, but to bring more next time. I told her I don't have the world's highest paying job and couldn't. I didn't love that interaction.

She was fun and great at being playful. I'd say May was 80% massage and 20% play, and Linde was probably 30% massage and 70% play. The massage, though brief, was nice, and the play was a lot of fun. She was generous with heated oil, though no hot towel. She offered a HE after I said I did not have more money with me, I declined, explained I just wanted massage and play. She offered again later, saying she really wanted to make me happy. I politely declined again, and she understood and still liked me. She even put my hand on her side, though not higher or lower.

I really enjoyed her as a person. I talked the most with her out of anyone I've seen, and I feel the most kinship with and compassion for her. She explained after it was over that she wants to do everything she can to make sure someone has a good experience so they come back, and I get that. BUT: I paid for 90 min and ended up with 40-45 min, I tipped for the HE I didn't actually want (to loosen her up and get what I do want), and she never even returned the fiver the house owed me. Because she clarified she wants to treat people well, I politely asked if I would get the full 90 min if I came back during a week day when they are less busy, and she didn't give a firm answer. I asked how much I should bring for the full 90 min and the same kind of play, and she didn't have an answer, just told me to bring what I want, but just to make sure it was more. 1. 2 already feels like a stretch to me for what I'm after.

I genuinely like her and I like what she did, but I felt pressured, and ripped off from the time I paid for and asked for.

I'd rather go to May, though she is less cute and built less rapport with me (though still kind). Maybe try out VIP and Pine Therapy as well, based on recommendations. I really want to recommend Butterfly, but can't: at least not Lind, unless you're happy flashing a lot of cash and you're not after more than HJ.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4632559]I tried out Butterfly today and have really mixed feelings on it.

I genuinely like her and I like what she did, but I felt pressured, and ripped off from the time I paid for and asked for.

I'd rather go to May, though she is less cute and built less rapport with me (though still kind). Maybe try out VIP and Pine Therapy as well, based on recommendations. I really want to recommend Butterfly, but can't: at least not Lind, unless you're happy flashing a lot of cash and you're not after more than HJ.[/QUOTE]NOT wanting a HE is going to be confusing for many MT's. So I think decent English skills and attitudes will give you want you are looking for, although you may have to try several different AMP's and MT's.

I've got a couple possibilities that are not AMP, and will not have a TS, but that may work for you. I'll send a PM.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4630934]do you find paying for publicly advertised extras helps in any way helps you leave more satisfied?[/QUOTE]No.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4630934]Or do most choose the right place, book the minimum, and pay for the rest in the tip?[/QUOTE]I like going to sure things. I don't like TOFTT. I'll do that for other activities but not for $200. AMPs are a mixed bag.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4630934]Others on this forum have mentioned not being offered services on their first visit, but they might if they see you are intentionally asking for it or if you return[/QUOTE]That's not my history. The AMP does or doesn't. Not the masseuse. The turnover is very high so they probably won't remember you.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4630934]that was just an honest mistake and I was still polite.[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it. I didn't mean to make it seem like I was addressing you directly on that part. In general, if I have any problems with the MMS or girl, it doesn't end well for me.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4630934]If you give it all to the MMS, doesn't that mean the MT will see less or none of it? If you give to the MT after, then they obviously won't know what to expect. Is it best to give to the MMS or MT up front? Question for anyone.[/QUOTE]Maybe. I don't care too much. But anyhow, you could tell the girl that you paid but when I do pay up front, I'm always taken care of. I only do this if I know its a sure thing. The place is good, the girl is good. I would never do this to a first time place that lacks reviews or I don't know what the girl looks like.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4630934]a HJ tip is probably the best balance to show I'm interested, grateful, and will be happy to return. Any advice on negotiating that? Should I wait for the flip, tell the MT up front, or tell the MMS up front?[/QUOTE]They usually ask at the flip what you want. I'd pay $40 but have no idea what a HJ goes for.

Based on the ad saying, "Best Asian Full Service" I went to TOFTT at Healing Hands Massage last week around 8 pm on Friday. The ad says they're open until 10, but it was locked up, lights out and no one around. So I went down the road to check out Rose Pearl who's ad was posted that day. Sign on the door said closed for a week! At least I saved some money.

[QUOTE=LochNess;4632559]I tried out Butterfly today and have really mixed feelings on it.

I paid up front for 90 min: . 75, gave. 8, didn't get change. I immediately, separately gave a. 4 tip. I thought this would help the MT warm to me, and she did. Lind (unsure of spelling), pretty cute for 45, was super sweet, super kind, very friendly, and we built immediate rapport. After I laid down, she said her boss came in and they had to run the numbers, wait 10 minutes, though she gave me a bowl of homemade dumplings for Chinese New Year (never had that happen before! She came back, massaged me for 10 min, then left saying someone with neck pain needed her for only 15 min, and it definitely would not come out of my time. She left a couple other times as well for a minute or two. She apologized, saying they were dead all day and now everyone was at the door.

Barely getting started, she told me I should give her a bigger tip and she'd make my time extra special. I tried to figure out what that meant (for you guys), but I gathered there's no FS at Butterfly, or at least with Lind. I told her the 1. 2 I gave her was all I had, and she said okay, because she liked me she'd make my time special, but to bring more next time. I told her I don't have the world's highest paying job and couldn't. I didn't love that interaction.

She was fun and great at being playful. I'd say May was 80% massage and 20% play, and Linde was probably 30% massage and 70% play. The massage, though brief, was nice, and the play was a lot of fun. She was generous with heated oil, though no hot towel. She offered a HE after I said I did not have more money with me, I declined, explained I just wanted massage and play. She offered again later, saying she really wanted to make me happy. I politely declined again, and she understood and still liked me. She even put my hand on her side, though not higher or lower.

I really enjoyed her as a person. I talked the most with her out of anyone I've seen, and I feel the most kinship with and compassion for her. She explained after it was over that she wants to do everything she can to make sure someone has a good experience so they come back, and I get that. BUT: I paid for 90 min and ended up with 40-45 min, I tipped for the HE I didn't actually want (to loosen her up and get what I do want), and she never even returned the fiver the house owed me. Because she clarified she wants to treat people well, I politely asked if I would get the full 90 min if I came back during a week day when they are less busy, and she didn't give a firm answer. I asked how much I should bring for the full 90 min and the same kind of play, and she didn't have an answer, just told me to bring what I want, but just to make sure it was more. 1. 2 already feels like a stretch to me for what I'm after.

I genuinely like her and I like what she did, but I felt pressured, and ripped off from the time I paid for and asked for.

I'd rather go to May, though she is less cute and built less rapport with me (though still kind). Maybe try out VIP and Pine Therapy as well, based on recommendations. I really want to recommend Butterfly, but can't: at least not Lind, unless you're happy flashing a lot of cash and you're not after more than HJ.[/QUOTE]I had seen Lind several times. I could get FS there but the last time I went another girl came in while I was face down and they took over 140 dollars from my wallet. I found out when in my car leaving and went back in and confronted her. She actually opened her purse and said that my neatly folded "new" bills were from another customer. Bullcrap! They will steal from you there. Beware.

[QUOTE=Mtnman2000;4633783]No.

I like going to sure things. I don't like TOFTT. I'll do that for other activities but not for $200. AMPs are a mixed bag.

They usually ask at the flip what you want. I'd pay $40 but have no idea what a HJ goes for.[/QUOTE]HJ I offer 40. I have walked out when some have demanded 80.

[QUOTE=OldSailor;4634864]HJ I offer 40. I have walked out when some have demanded 80.[/QUOTE]You can also get a lot to drop down to $100 for FS. I've walked out of so many AMPs LOL. I've even had to refund myself on the CC machine because I didn't bring cash for the house and the lady had no idea, barely spoke english, called boss on phone and all, boss didn't want to refund me, I refunded myself and walked out LOL. I'm picky when they can't give a strong massage. That was back in Miami though.