Massage Parlor Reports

Just got back from Vegas, and needed to post this immediately. DO NO GO TO PASSIONS, located in the China Town area. Over the weekend, my buddy & I were at the Rhino. We got picked up by a cabbie, Ray was his name, and he told us there were lots of options. Asians, brunettes, blondes, etc. In the area. He told us of this place called Passions, blondes, brunettes, etc. When I walked in, they said it was a "reflexology" place. Long story short, after $350, I got my feet & hands rubbed with lotion. This place is a SCAM. The cab driver was obviously in on it, so STAY AWAY! They make you sign a form saying you're aware prositition is illegal (we all know that), then upscale to the VIP package for more time. I didn't go all the way to the VIP deal, but did spend enough. SR. Pm's can email me for more details.

There are a few bad reports on Google about passions;

Never ever take a cabbie's advice on anything!

Hawaii Relax Tanning & Spa on Valley View off Desert Inn has FS.

There should be a link to a rules for AMP mongering.
1. Take your own car or if possible, rent a car.
2. NEVER take the advice of a cabbie.
3. Have the cabbie take you close to where you want to go(don't let them walk you in.}.
4. Never pay more than 30-70 for a massage.
5. Negotiate the tip after you have been rubbed for awhile.
6. Be specific for what you tipping for.
I'm sure there are other rules that I'm not thinkng of at the moment.

[QUOTE=Hughdog74]Just got back from Vegas, and needed to post this immediately. DO NO GO TO PASSIONS, located in the China Town area. Over the weekend, my buddy & I were at the Rhino. We got picked up by a cabbie, Ray was his name, and he told us there were lots of options. Asians, brunettes, blondes, etc. In the area. He told us of this place called Passions, blondes, brunettes, etc. When I walked in, they said it was a "reflexology" place. Long story short, after $350, I got my feet & hands rubbed with lotion. This place is a SCAM. The cab driver was obviously in on it, so STAY AWAY! They make you sign a form saying you're aware prositition is illegal (we all know that), then upscale to the VIP package for more time. I didn't go all the way to the VIP deal, but did spend enough. SR. Pm's can email me for more details.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=David Poonhound]There should be a link to a rules for AMP mongering.
1. Take your own car or if possible, rent a car.
2. NEVER take the advice of a cabbie.
3. Have the cabbie take you close to where you want to go(don't let them walk you in.}.
4. Never pay more than 30-70 for a massage.
5. Negotiate the tip after you have been rubbed for awhile.
6. Be specific for what you tipping for.
I'm sure there are other rules that I'm not thinkng of at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Never sign a waiver stating that you know prostitution is illegal?

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Never sign a waiver stating that you know prostitution is illegal?[/QUOTE]

Or turn around and leave...better to waste a few dollars on the cab than $$$

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Never sign a waiver stating that you know prostitution is illegal?[/QUOTE]Why would you want them to know your name?

What good does signing it do since ignorance of the law is no excuse?

If you are LE , why would you shy away from signing that paper?

That tells me that I am going to get screw but not in a good way.

[QUOTE=Vegasmark]Hawaii Relax Tanning & Spa on Valley View off Desert Inn has FS.[/QUOTE]Is this different then the Hawaii Spa on Valley View? If it is, can you "Ballpark" prices. And what is the quality of AM's there?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Never sign a waiver stating that you know prostitution is illegal?[/QUOTE]What is the benefit for the establishment to have patrons sign a documant like this? It wouldn't clear them of any wrong doing. If anything, it would suggest that illegal activities may be going on.

Also, it sounds like the way they do it in Hawaii would be better for us. It would elliviate negotiating over the tip. It would also be safer on the LE side. If you pay $150 for a massage and then get a little extra its not inherently illegal. If you pay $70 for a massage and then tip another $100 for other activities it seems easier to prove wrongdoing.

Just my $0. 02.

[QUOTE=Muggs]Or turn around and leave...better to waste a few dollars on the cab than $$$[/QUOTE]That would be the primary (and, IMHO - ONLY) option. Something like that waiver would get my feets to the door in a hurry. It would really make me wonder just what the hell the mindset of that AMP is. I would put that right up there with the "Entertainer" cards handed out on the strip.

Sounds like it was an expensive lesson for Hughdog74...

[QUOTE=Cienega32]That would be the primary (and, IMHO - ONLY) option. Something like that waiver would get my feets to the door in a hurry. It would really make me wonder just what the hell the mindset of that AMP is. I would put that right up there with the "Entertainer" cards handed out on the strip.

Sounds like it was an expensive lesson for Hughdog74...[/QUOTE]COSIGN. Common sense

Has anyone been to USA Spa off of Arville and Harmon?

How was it?

Is it reccomended or not?

I had a session with Jessie a little while ago. She gives a decent foot massage and is very accomodating for a nice tip. I had a good session a few days ago..

[QUOTE=Marco Solis]Has anyone been to USA Spa off of Arville and Harmon?

How was it?

Is it reccomended or not?[/QUOTE]See posts:

[post]652631[/post]

and

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=650138&postcount=586[/url]

As I remember, it was okay. I don't know if I would repeat but only as a matter of taste and not service.

[QUOTE=Marco Solis]Has anyone been to USA Spa off of Arville and Harmon?

How was it?

Is it reccomended or not?[/QUOTE]Marco,

Instead of being so helpless, go to these places and report back to us. Your credibility may rise. Other than that RTFF.

PC out

[QUOTE=Harry Kocenbal]Decided to drop in and check it out, dont remember the name of the place, real dark inside , no extras seemed to be on the menu. decent foot bath and massage [/QUOTE]

I decided to stop in this place since I had already been to Asian Beauty (in the same shopping center) and wasnt too impressed by their foot massage. The place smelled pretty bad and the "rooms" were set up by drawing curtains around chairs.

It seemed to be a husband and wife operation. The woman that did my feet was talking to me in Chinese the entire time. And I speak no Chinese. The quality of the foot massage was pretty poor. More of a leg and foot rub. As noted - there are no extras.

Not that it matters, but I have no idea how places like this can stay in business. I can't imagine more than a few customers a day and for low prices.

[QUOTE=Harry Plopper]I had a session with Jessie a little while ago. She gives a decent foot massage and is very accomodating for a nice tip. I had a good session a few days ago..[/QUOTE]


Tried on of the places on Arville close to Spring Mtn, and strickly a HE and no more, Nice Table SHower, but that was it, the massage sucked.

Went to see Jesse and got the full monte - foot and arm and leg massage.

The foot massage was awesome as well as the rest of the massage.

SHe always had a smile on her face, was very pleasant, and for the right tip, satisfied my needs. I will always see Jesse on my return trips to Vegas,

Thanks guys for the tip!

Brother mongers moving to sin city in a few months. I am an old hand at AMPs. From reviewing past post looks like my best bets for a good time are Queen Vixen, May Sky (Jessie), and the Hawaii Spa (Valley View & Sirus). Any other recommendations?

[QUOTE=Joe Bagodonuts]Brother mongers moving to sin city in a few months. I am an old hand at AMPs. From reviewing past post looks like my best bets for a good time are Queen Vixen, May Sky (Jessie), and the Hawaii Spa (Valley View & Sirus). Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]I would also recommend the Asian Spa in Henderson, 180 S. Stephanie St., behind the Starbucks. They have a few nice girls to choose from and have a 1/2 and 1 hr table shower special.

Also, try Sara at New Shanghai (Arville & Spring Mtn). She does a good HE, but no FS. I don't know if that's cool with you.

JuJu at Lucky Massage is another good one.

RR702

Found this link from another poster on the board in Jacksonville.

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]


Show why it's important to be careful who you share with.

Muggs,

I have been saying this s**t for years do not mine gold for LE!

F**k LE and all the damage that they inflict while enforcing this countries victimless crime laws...

Any mongers w/half a brain should know that the beauty of this forum is the PM feature.

It means PRIVATE MESSAGE!

Learn from it!

Then use it!

And please newbies, all over the nation, quit posting vital information on this forums public threads!

Remember, boys when relating our experiences w/various SW's please feel free to post everything that happens in a very open manner.

This is fine because SW's are transient in nature and their strolls are vast in scope and as such this makes them very hard targets for LE to flush out.

Indeed, I give a-lot of very specific information when I post in LA about my random SW encounters because these experiences do not put a specific business in the cross hairs of an over zealous LE vice unit.

Unlike posting about fixed location Amp's which are at the mercy of any of a number of variables.

The first being that it is easy for LE to find our hidden gems once they have been publicly outed on a site like this because our favorite spots operate from a permanent storefront location.

Our hobby is about smoke and mirrors.

Our hobby is about discretion.

Our hobby is about beating the system.

Our hobby is to be respected.

When we go to an Amp it is the ultimate form of adult male entertainment.

Do not let ego, stupidity or just plain ignorance be contributing factors in the on going demise of our beloved hobby!

Remember evil LE bastards are always in our midst here surfing and sometimes even posting.

Where I monger in LA County we get a-lot of this crap w/past and present LE actively posting on our threads.

In fact, during the past few months we have had a guy named Walter, who is active duty LE, posting consistently on the Figueroa threads.

Thankfully, he is a monger too so he is more of an asset than a liability at this point.

However, the majority of us seniors feel that because he is the real deal he can never be trusted.

Instead, we prefer to let him keep mining gold for us!

LOL!

My point is simple: LE is here, we need to be smarter than them, and do not make it easy for them to ruin our hobby!

Peace, da I Sadist

vlad de sade, you remind me of someone i know who works in the fake id business.

wow that news report is a powerful message. the only thing that keeps half of these amps alive is that it takes incredible le $ and man power to bust an amp.

at least we here at usasexguide have some protection and ability to be discreet. look at craig's list. there are blatant ads for prostitution, yet women are never (ok rarely, rarely ever) caught. hell, even the sick **** sh*t that goes on craig's list is rarely stopped mainly because le doesn't have the time, money, and man power.

[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]Muggs,

I have been saying this s**t for years do not mine gold for LE!

F**k LE and all the damage that they inflict while enforcing this countries victimless crime laws...

Any mongers w/half a brain should know that the beauty of this forum is the PM feature.

It means PRIVATE MESSAGE!

Learn from it!

Then use it!

And please newbies, all over the nation, quit posting vital information on this forums public threads!

Remember, boys when relating our experiences w/various SW's please feel free to post everything that happens in a very open manner.

This is fine because SW's are transient in nature and their strolls are vast in scope and as such this makes them very hard targets for LE to flush out.

Indeed, I give a-lot of very specific information when I post in LA about my random SW encounters because these experiences do not put a specific business in the cross hairs of an over zealous LE vice unit.

Unlike posting about fixed location Amp's which are at the mercy of any of a number of variables.

The first being that it is easy for LE to find our hidden gems once they have been publicly outed on a site like this because our favorite spots operate from a permanent storefront location.

Our hobby is about smoke and mirrors.

Our hobby is about discretion.

Our hobby is about beating the system.

Our hobby is to be respected.

When we go to an Amp it is the ultimate form of adult male entertainment.

Do not let ego, stupidity or just plain ignorance be contributing factors in the on going demise of our beloved hobby!

Remember evil LE bastards are always in our midst here surfing and sometimes even posting.

Where I monger in LA County we get a-lot of this crap w/past and present LE actively posting on our threads.

In fact, during the past few months we have had a guy named Walter, who is active duty LE, posting consistently on the Figueroa threads.

Thankfully, he is a monger too so he is more of an asset than a liability at this point.

However, the majority of us seniors feel that because he is the real deal he can never be trusted.

Instead, we prefer to let him keep mining gold for us!

LOL!

My point is simple: LE is here, we need to be smarter than them, and do not make it easy for them to ruin our hobby!

Peace, da I Sadist[/QUOTE]

I cosign you Sir Vlad De Sade. And yes you have been saying this for years. People need to take heed. I was once guily of this in my younger years, but I learned to shut the heck up and share by PM.

We always hear people say, "there are drug dealers, murderers, etc, and LE wants to focus on this trade". That itself shows that LE will waste time and energy and tax dollars on smaller things. THAT applies to a WEBSITE too. They will set up a local task force to just monitor the site...ie...waste of resources. Currently right now, there is a AMP who has to be on the radar...because all the action that goes on is posted blatantly.

Common sense....

HEY GUYS!

This reporter even says out loud that this site is the one the COPS used to bust an Orlando "spa"!

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]

For Christ's sake, be discrete! ! !

Stay safe,
OG

[QUOTE=Muggs]I cosign you Sir Vlad De Sade. And yes you have been saying this for years. People need to take heed. I was once guily of this in my younger years, but I learned to shut the heck up and share by PM.

We always hear people say, "there are drug dealers, murderers, etc, and LE wants to focus on this trade". That itself shows that LE will waste time and energy and tax dollars on smaller things. THAT applies to a WEBSITE too. They will set up a local task force to just monitor the site...ie...waste of resources. Currently right now, there is a AMP who has to be on the radar...because all the action that goes on is posted blatantly.

Common sense....[/QUOTE]I agree that the descriptions on here and other sites may be a little too explicit. The truth is that LE can gain access to any of these sites just as easily as we do. I have in fact, quit patronizing the AMP that MUGGS is talking about.

But, on the other hand. I am pretty sure that they have a pretty good idea how and where illicit activities take place in this city. And PM does work well but how "Iron Clad" could it be? How do we know that there are not Senior Members who are LE?

Fortunetly for us, they do not have the resources to impede the AMP's. If they want a big bust or need a good press release they know where to find it. I do not know how much "new stuff" they are learning from us.

If I rambled or went off topic I apologise.

Just my $0. 02.

[QUOTE=Older Guy]HEY GUYS!

This reporter even says out loud that this site is the one the COPS used to bust an Orlando "spa"!

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]

For Christ's sake, be discrete! ! !

Stay safe,
OG[/QUOTE]
Descreet or not when a AMP opens in a strip mall along side a regular business it is going to stand out period.

Bigboi,

I disagree.

I have had first hand experience w/more than 1 Kamp closing down due to heavy LE pressure and then w/in a short period of time they have reopened.

How do they do this?

The answer is quite simple.

They are now operating in a murky gray area; w/no valid business license to speak of.

They then immediately stop all of their advertising, they remove the open sign from their front facade, they keep the video cameras rolling so that any real monger that knows how to buzz in can now be discretely let into the secret shadow world that is now operating completely off of the radar!

This scenario worked perfectly in the heart of the San Fernando Valley, off of Topanga cyn blvd, from early 2003 until Oct 2004 for one of my favorite Kamps of all time.

Yeah, it was a sad day when that particularly legendary Kamp closed for good.

This routine happens time and time again all throughout Los Angeles County.

Right now 2 of my favorite places in the west valley, one all Latina the other all Korean, are operating almost completely off of the radar.

Both spots sometimes still turn on their open signs for a few hours.

Otherwise, YOU either know where to go, who to ask for and what to pay, or YOU don't!

Many great spots in my valley do not even use the words "massage therapy" on the facade anymore; instead now it will say a random name or something like: "sauna" or "acupressure" or even "pedicure/foot" this is smart IMHO.

And a smart owner of an Amp will try to occupy a strip mall location that is in a poor, rough section of town, where LE is busy w/real crime, making sure that the storefront blends into the immediate surroundings w/out pissing off any of the businesses operating in close proximity...

If this is done correctly the smart and lucky Amp operator, who always pays his rent on time, will flourish under the radar long avoiding the scrutiny of active LE vice units in their city...

In fact, if I remember correctly the video showed that the busted place advertised, at-least on their facade, as a spa/pedicure joint.

This charade probably worked absolutely fine for them until some stupid newbie mongers in the area publicly outed the name, the location, the providers, the prices, etc. which naturally ruined an obviously great spot for mongering.

WTF!

PM any vital intel YOU have to other trusted members otherwise shut the f**k up about any place YOU do not want LE to destroy.

Period!

OK boys I am done ranting.

Peace, da I Sadist

[QUOTE=Rustys] The only thing that keeps half of these AMPs alive is that it takes incredible LE $ and man power to bust an AMP.[/QUOTE]
When they get a head of steam, it doesn't matter to them. When they roll it - they roll it. Out here they use that handy dandy pretense of human trafficking, slavery and minors. The results are nothing more than AMPs and AAMPs getting hit with gun-drawn prostitution raids but hey - it looks good on TV with all the shiney brass shining in the lights. It's like that U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan and her Tommy Chong bust. Whoopy Doo but she gets a promotion out of it. I'm sure she saved countless lives and futures by busting an out of state head shop thru entrapment. My hero.

Meanwhile - wedding chapel stabbings, Sahara's armed robbery and how many other countless crimes that actually have victims?

Ridiculous set of priorities and a big stroke job to get federal monies. That's all they have behind their "raids". They're a waste of tax dollars - both the 'raids' and the Great Protectors.

I did a search, but didn't come up with anything. Has anyone been there?

[QUOTE=Daijiro]I did a search, but didn't come up with anything. Has anyone been there?[/QUOTE]

It is on Sahara about 2 blocks East of the strip near Marie Callenders. 700 E Sahara Ave. Look for Imperial Chinese Massage. They have a $30 / 30 minute special. Very dark place that is not the cleanest massage joint in the city.

My friend got scammed here. We walked in and the person at front desk was super hot. She said all the masseuse were like her and that we would have a very good time. My friend decided to try. He said the masseuse was butt ugly and kept trying to up sell but he knew better. So he just took the initial loss. Stay away. A better place in the same plaza is New Shanghai massage. Ask for Yuki or Michelle. Michelle is an Asian girl with beautiful natural breasts that she will let you suck on. Her face is ok.

[QUOTE=Hughdog74]Just got back from Vegas, and needed to post this immediately. DO NO GO TO PASSIONS, located in the China Town area. Over the weekend, my buddy & I were at the Rhino. We got picked up by a cabbie, Ray was his name, and he told us there were lots of options. Asians, brunettes, blondes, etc. In the area. He told us of this place called Passions, blondes, brunettes, etc. When I walked in, they said it was a "reflexology" place. Long story short, after $350, I got my feet & hands rubbed with lotion. This place is a SCAM. The cab driver was obviously in on it, so STAY AWAY! They make you sign a form saying you're aware prositition is illegal (we all know that), then upscale to the VIP package for more time. I didn't go all the way to the VIP deal, but did spend enough. SR. Pm's can email me for more details.[/QUOTE]

After reading reviews on here I decided to check out Jessie.

I asked for and received a body massage instead of a foot massage for the same price. Not very good and no teasing. On the flip negotiations began. .6 for HE, $ for nude, but she settled for fs for 1.2. She does have a nice body but she kept her bra on buy pulled up and 1 leg in her jeans! Maybe I had the bar set a little high as I am use to much better service at home (Vancouver) but I had much better time picking up working girls in the casinos than this experience. I would rate this session as a 5/10 it did get the job done, but a good massage with a HE would have been better.

Just my opinion and maybe we didn't have a connection. It is too bad there isn't more fs amp's out there.

[QUOTE=Deke]After reading reviews on here I decided to check out Jessie.

I asked for and received a body massage instead of a foot massage for the same price. Not very good and no teasing. On the flip negotiations began. .6 for HE, $ for nude, but she settled for fs for 1.2. She does have a nice body but she kept her bra on buy pulled up and 1 leg in her jeans! Maybe I had the bar set a little high as I am use to much better service at home (Vancouver) but I had much better time picking up working girls in the casinos than this experience. I would rate this session as a 5/10 it did get the job done, but a good massage with a HE would have been better.

Just my opinion and maybe we didn't have a connection. It is too bad there isn't more fs amp's out there.[/QUOTE]


May Sky....too many detailed reports....

I think Jessie is gone. Might have been the reports were getting too detailed

[QUOTE=Harry Plopper]I think Jessie is gone. Might have been the reports were getting too detailed[/QUOTE]

She is not gone - I saw her last night. They have remodeled the place in the past 2 weeks. It looks and smells a lot cleaner. It's a decent foot massage joint with a good looking provider.

[QUOTE=Harry Plopper]I think Jessie is gone. Might have been the reports were getting too detailed[/QUOTE]

It will be gone. LV amps, were somewhat under a radar, because most didn't do much more than HJs. There are a few that give the total bang bang, and posting detailed intel on what happens, with locations, provider names, etc...will lead to investigation.

Common sense.....

Was just in town on business, and decided to check out LV action.

Went to Hong Yun due to messages here and on another site. Although I recieved good service, she tried to rip me off on the price. When she finished with the massage she turned to my clothes and took my pants off the floor to discuss tip. The quoted price was insane so I grabbed my pants and told her that I've never paid that much in this town, and that I was prepared to leave. Got a much better price at that point and recieved an adequate HJ. Would I repeat, probably not since there are so many other options in town.

Kneadin Kitty

I know this is a little late but I was in town in late November and was looking for some "goes in Vegas, stays in Vegas" time. Checked the board before I left and decided to take a chance on Fantasy. Got there around 10pm and was escorted in by a spinner type C girl. I don't like short women!

On the way to the room I saw another girl and asked for her instead. They must have thought I meant someone else because she told me that she wasn't in town. I said, " no the other girl in the room". So, the troll took off and in came "J", who I had seen reviewed here previously. I came for the table shower and the fun thereafter basically. My provider did not disappoint.

After a subdued but pleasant table shower we went back to the room. 5 minutes of gentle massage we get to the flip and the negotiation. I told her that I had no more than 1. 4 with me (It was actually 1. 3, was all I had)

She was fine with that and we got to Mish and then CG. That was plenty for me as it had been a very long day and I just didn't feel like setting any records.

They are open late and I would definitely go back for J but not the shorty

YMMV

Took a chance and went there in Henderson. I got a masage from Coco at least that is what she said her name was. Coco said she just arrived from SF. Massge was only ok, and paid .5 for the half hour, minus the .1 discount and then after the flip .4 for the mechanical hj. Coco aloowed roaming all over. She is a A cup with nice nips. Roamed downstairs but was not allowed inside, got her moist and could feel it on the panties and she smelled nice. Overall for $ it wasn't bad.

PM for any info.

[QUOTE=Kneadin Kitty]Was just in town on business, and decided to check out LV action.

Went to Hong Yun due to messages here and on another site. Although I recieved good service, she tried to rip me off on the price. When she finished with the massage she turned to my clothes and took my pants off the floor to discuss tip. The quoted price was insane so I grabbed my pants and told her that I've never paid that much in this town, and that I was prepared to leave. Got a much better price at that point and recieved an adequate HJ. Would I repeat, probably not since there are so many other options in town.

Kneadin Kitty[/QUOTE]
How about some specifics -- like what was her "quoted price" and what "better price" did you end up at? Likewise, do you recall her name?

A bit late with this post as well. I, too got ripped off at Passions. Fortunately I took my losses early and left despite the upsell and pressure. NEVER TRUST A CABBIE.

Now, the corollary is the cabbie who picked me up at Passions. (Don't ask why I would do this again.) I told him I got ripped off and what I really just wanted was a good AMP. He was Asian and took me to Flamingo Massage on Flamingo (there are at least three AMPs in similar strip malls in the area).

The cabbie takes me in to the Mamasan and says "this guy wants a massage with a happy ending. " Mamasan says "OK. " I'm off. Literally and figuratively.

I get Michelle. Nice looking. Good table shower. Thorough with some attention in the right places. Rooms clean and private. Michelle does a good massage (I like them hard) with some leaning and brushing. Allowed roaming UTC of a rock hard butt and legs. Amazing.

On the flip she wants $$ for HE. HA! I go for. 5. Hard sell. After saying "no thanks" I get to. 75 with roaming--which she really tries to make difficult.

Overall I at least got what I wanted but it was an expensive trip.

We learn each time.