Arrangement Reports / Seeking Arrangments

[QUOTE=BareOnly2018;6953428]I wanted to see if anyone has an opinion of SA or SB. I've been on SA a few times and done ok. I was thinking of giving SB a shot. It seems to run differently. Was wondering how people have done on it. When I join SA each time, there is a lot of familiar faces so was hoping for a change in scenery.[/QUOTE]I use SB and have had mediocre success. Prob met 6 or 7 ladies over the last couple years and 3 were regulars for a period of time. (I'm married and only get to play 2–3 times per month.) one advantage with SB is they use tokens to contact ladies vs the monthly subscription. If I don't look for a few weeks it costs me nothing.

I'm betting many of the same girls are on both sites but don't know for sure. Funny part is I'm still looking for the one that is legitimate and wants to find a new bf.

Good luck,

[QUOTE=Jimmyh9;6953456]I use SB and have had mediocre success. Prob met 6 or 7 ladies over the last couple years and 3 were regulars for a period of time. (I'm married and only get to play 23 times per month.) one advantage with SB is they use tokens to contact ladies vs the monthly subscription. If I don't look for a few weeks it costs me nothing.

I'm betting many of the same girls are on both sites but don't know for sure. Funny part is I'm still looking for the one that is legitimate and wants to find a new bf.

Good luck,[/QUOTE]I too have had mix luck, I have had some very sweet UTR's and some real skanks.

I'm considering paying the monthly again on my SA account for a month to see what the current scene is like. I still have my account, but I haven't paid the monthly fee in a while. When I was browsing for free, I noticed some familiar faces, like Madeline, who has been around for a while. I still have her number, and she claims she regularly gets $400.

It's puzzling why these ladies are asking more than the ladies like Catty in Naples. Personally, I think even half of what she asks is too much but half is doable for someone with bad reviews. We need to band together to establish a fair market value that is reasonable for most of us. Many of these women are single mothers, waitresses, or office workers not making much money. The wealthy men who can afford their high asks are likely not around at the moment, so we have an opportunity to negotiate lower rates.

They will accept less if you stand your ground. They face a lot of competition, especially now when prices for everything are sky high, and we're all feeling the financial pinch.

[QUOTE=CondomPopper1;6954760]I'm considering paying the monthly again on my SA account for a month to see what the current scene is like. I still have my account, but I haven't paid the monthly fee in a while. When I was browsing for free, I noticed some familiar faces, like Madeline, who has been around for a while. I still have her number, and she claims she regularly gets $400.

It's puzzling why these ladies are asking more than the ladies like Catty in Naples. Personally, I think even half of what she asks is too much but half is doable for someone with bad reviews. We need to band together to establish a fair market value that is reasonable for most of us. Many of these women are single mothers, waitresses, or office workers not making much money. The wealthy men who can afford their high asks are likely not around at the moment, so we have an opportunity to negotiate lower rates.

They will accept less if you stand your ground. They face a lot of competition, especially now when prices for everything are sky high, and we're all feeling the financial pinch.[/QUOTE]Madeline competes with the local funeral home! Got more wrinkles than a loaf of bread! . Not worth $40 let alone $400?

[QUOTE=PorkSword;6954993]Madeline competes with the local funeral home! Got more wrinkles than a loaf of bread! . Not worth $40 let alone $400?[/QUOTE]I completely agree. I realize my statement may have been misunderstood. What I meant to say is that most women would likely accept half of the 400. I wouldn't pay Madeline anything either. I just wanted to check the current rates and contacted a few of the women whose numbers I still had. The majority would accept between 200 to 250. Unfortunately, most of them have stopped doing this.

[QUOTE=CondomPopper1;6954760]I'm considering paying the monthly again on my SA account for a month to see what the current scene is like. I still have my account, but I haven't paid the monthly fee in a while. When I was browsing for free, I noticed some familiar faces, like Madeline, who has been around for a while. I still have her number, and she claims she regularly gets $400.

It's puzzling why these ladies are asking more than the ladies like Catty in Naples. Personally, I think even half of what she asks is too much but half is doable for someone with bad reviews. We need to band together to establish a fair market value that is reasonable for most of us. Many of these women are single mothers, waitresses, or office workers not making much money. The wealthy men who can afford their high asks are likely not around at the moment, so we have an opportunity to negotiate lower rates.

They will accept less if you stand your ground. They face a lot of competition, especially now when prices for everything are sky high, and we're all feeling the financial pinch.[/QUOTE]You're right, 250 is my top, and its working. Some of them prefer, privacy and nice treatment rather than big bucks.

[QUOTE=CoolMonky;6956456]You're right, 250 is my top, and it’s working. Some of them prefer, privacy and nice treatment rather than big bucks.[/QUOTE]I top out 400 at most, most of time 300 if they ask for more I move on.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a3e1c24-f0f4-4abd-9eae-ffb44018e800[/URL]

Any experience with the lady with the profile name Shedoe?

[QUOTE=CondomPopper1;6957331][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a3e1c24-f0f4-4abd-9eae-ffb44018e800[/URL]

Any experience with the lady with the profile name Shedoe?[/QUOTE]She was on skip. Didn't see her but I thought I remember someone who did.

[QUOTE=CondomPopper1;6957331][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a3e1c24-f0f4-4abd-9eae-ffb44018e800[/URL]

Any experience with the lady with the profile name Shedoe?[/QUOTE]Fat droopy cow off winkler.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c9387d4a-a874-4265-84ba-af5820819865[/URL]

She hit me up asking 500. I feel that is steep for this time of year. Anyone meet her yet and if so, care to share details? PM is fine if you prefer.

[QUOTE=SR7D1;6958539][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c9387d4a-a874-4265-84ba-af5820819865[/URL]

She hit me up asking 500. I feel that is steep for this time of year. Anyone meet her yet and if so, care to share details? PM is fine if you prefer.[/QUOTE]I don't even try anyone with Princess, Queen or Diva on her name, that's a red flag for me. LOL.

[QUOTE=MobyD;6927063]100 percent real. Flat rate for 3-4 hours at her place off Vanderbilt. Defines MILF next door who never had kids. Insatiable nympho, mind blowing sexual creativity, all natural tone body and 36 Cs that define perfection. Oh the stories and mental videos that frequently replay. Dom Sub switch, but the Dom side pushed certain friends away. Fuck. Do it all over? Absofuckinglutely.[/QUOTE]Moby, What a great post. I'm intrigued but the 3-4 hours yikes sounds awesome, but perhaps beyond my scope of $$ could you ballpark the $ on that to see if my wallet is inline. Thanks in advance!

Met with Laura ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e8002f-bf80-4d47-bb43-87aef72ded7d[/URL]). She is new to the SB world, but def enjoying herself. When I met with her, she was traveling all over FL meeting with new SDs. I passed on FS as the attraction seriously diminished as she told me about her past week's line up of SDs. She was more than willing for BBFS, no anal. 7 bennies and she is yours, just wasnt my type in person. Happy hunting gents.

[QUOTE=BoobsGalore1;6972173]Met with Laura ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e8002f-bf80-4d47-bb43-87aef72ded7d[/URL]). She is new to the SB world, but def enjoying herself. When I met with her, she was traveling all over FL meeting with new SDs. I passed on FS as the attraction seriously diminished as she told me about her past week's line up of SDs. She was more than willing for BBFS, no anal. 7 bennies and she is yours, just wasnt my type in person. Happy hunting gents.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Sometimes crazy ladies (bi-polar) are best in the bedroom, but 700 seems a little ambitious for her age? 4 usually is the number I have been hearing in 2024.

[QUOTE=SR7D1;6972550]Thanks for the report. Sometimes crazy ladies (bi-polar) are best in the bedroom, but 700 seems a little ambitious for her age? 4 usually is the number I have been hearing in 2024.[/QUOTE]Agree about the $700, it's a bit high. There's a chart here that Reddit sugarbaby forum. The numbers are all self-reported, but gives a general idea of what guys are putting out. I'd say $400-$600 is a good range.

[URL]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSgVjvdI8Qe5--d6PlbVxJx1ec1pRrrFx84k3BaEYSebj5-a8BKJyrsdvVM2Nqq3LStKPgT6Z9UvLsg/pubhtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;6978685]Agree about the $700, it's a bit high. There's a chart here that Reddit sugarbaby forum. The numbers are all self-reported, but gives a general idea of what guys are putting out. I'd say $400-$600 is a good range.

[URL]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSgVjvdI8Qe5--d6PlbVxJx1ec1pRrrFx84k3BaEYSebj5-a8BKJyrsdvVM2Nqq3LStKPgT6Z9UvLsg/pubhtml[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah SLF on Reddit is a good sub. You can learn a lot there.

Fellow mongers. This page has been quiet lately, probably the same feeling I've been having, the GPS is getting out of hand. I've looked on seeking a few times but not much there interests me, you can almost tell from their looks they've got GPS. So I went online just to check out some other sites and found One Night Stand. Its a complete scam. Pay for credits and its 10 credits for every message sent out, even after the first message with the same girl. NONE of the dozen or so ladies I contacted were willing to chat off the site, even after having quite a few great messages back and forth. Hmmm wonder why. Its highly unlikely anyone here might try that site, but wanted to at least put it out there in case anyone thought about pulling the trigger. Its not worth it, and thankfully I didn't spend much $.

S&P.

[QUOTE=SaltAndPepper;7028479]Fellow mongers. This page has been quiet lately, probably the same feeling I've been having, the GPS is getting out of hand. I've looked on seeking a few times but not much there interests me, you can almost tell from their looks they've got GPS. So I went online just to check out some other sites and found One Night Stand. Its a complete scam. Pay for credits and its 10 credits for every message sent out, even after the first message with the same girl. NONE of the dozen or so ladies I contacted were willing to chat off the site, even after having quite a few great messages back and forth. Hmmm wonder why. Its highly unlikely anyone here might try that site, but wanted to at least put it out there in case anyone thought about pulling the trigger. Its not worth it, and thankfully I didn't spend much $.

S&P.[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangements has tremendous talent. Just have to weed through them and find the ones that you click with. In SWFL a lot of the Hurricane Ian contractors are gone and the overall construction industry and real estate market has slowed down there is a lot less money for SB spending. For $400 or $500 ppm there are a lot of options. Many girls have told me its harder getting Sd to pay them high rates compared to a year ago.

I've got one perfect one now I see few times a week and still see three others occasionally. Invest the time in SA and you won't be disappointed.

[QUOTE=Casper11;7028810]Seeking Arrangements has tremendous talent. Just have to weed through them and find the ones that you click with. In SWFL a lot of the Hurricane Ian contractors are gone and the overall construction industry and real estate market has slowed down there is a lot less money for SB spending. For $400 or $500 ppm there are a lot of options. Many girls have told me its harder getting Sd to pay them high rates compared to a year ago.

I've got one perfect one now I see few times a week and still see three others occasionally. Invest the time in SA and you won't be disappointed.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree that seeking has hidden talent that requires a little work to find, but they are there. If I was single and had my own place the site would be my go to especially if I wasn't interested in a steady SO. However, if you're married it is way too challenging in my opinion because I found the majority of the ladies can't host. This presents a bit more logistics and expense on top of a ppm or allowance if you want to hook up with someone. Finding those that can host is possible and they are there but I also found the times most of them can host are in the evenings or on weekends when I couldn't get away from the home front.

If you're single I highly recommend the site. If you're married, in my opinion, it's easier to book a reputable provider unless your SO gives you a lot of freedom to come and go as you please.

[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;7029296]I tend to agree that seeking has hidden talent that requires a little work to find, but they are there. If I was single and had my own place the site would be my go to especially if I wasn't interested in a steady SO. However, if you're married it is way too challenging in my opinion because I found the majority of the ladies can't host. This presents a bit more logistics and expense on top of a ppm or allowance if you want to hook up with someone. Finding those that can host is possible and they are there but I also found the times most of them can host are in the evenings or on weekends when I couldn't get away from the home front.

If you're single I highly recommend the site. If you're married, in my opinion, it's easier to book a reputable provider unless your SO gives you a lot of freedom to come and go as you please.[/QUOTE]After the hurricanes (I'm in construction industry) I bought a hotel room ($120 k which becomes tax rightoff) in an inexpensive hotel (2-3 star) set it up with sex toys, sex furniture. Not exactly romantic but I am not comfortable having SBs in my primary residence.

[QUOTE=SaltAndPepper;7028479]Fellow mongers. This page has been quiet lately, probably the same feeling I've been having, the GPS is getting out of hand. I've looked on seeking a few times but not much there interests me, you can almost tell from their looks they've got GPS. So I went online just to check out some other sites and found One Night Stand. Its a complete scam. Pay for credits and its 10 credits for every message sent out, even after the first message with the same girl. NONE of the dozen or so ladies I contacted were willing to chat off the site, even after having quite a few great messages back and forth. Hmmm wonder why. Its highly unlikely anyone here might try that site, but wanted to at least put it out there in case anyone thought about pulling the trigger. Its not worth it, and thankfully I didn't spend much $.

S&P.[/QUOTE]Great post! Thank you for the info!

There is a rash of GPS on Seeking and even some of the girls that I have seen before are raising. When I tell them what arrangement we had before they have balked and tried to negotiate. I'm not going 4 $ for a girl I saw at 2. 5 $ two months ago. Just on principle. 3 $, maybe.

[QUOTE=Cec00;7029560]Great post! Thank you for the info!

There is a rash of GPS on Seeking and even some of the girls that I have seen before are raising. When I tell them what arrangement we had before they have balked and tried to negotiate. I'm not going 4 $ for a girl I saw at 2. 5 $ two months ago. Just on principle. 3 $, maybe.[/QUOTE]Need to look at big picture and how many meets per month you want. An arrangement can always be made at a lower rate than a typical ppm. Now I'm difficult and I know it and expect an unreasonable performance out of them. Porn star experience, threeways, anal, ass to mouth, cim, swallow, golden showers, anal and pussy pumps. Typically I've gotten 3 meets per week for a monthly allowance $4,000. If I wasnt expecting so much I bet $3,000 month for 3 dates week would work which equates to $250 per meet. The allowance takes the pressure off girl cause she get a minimum per month no matter what. PPm she may need multiple SD and an unreliable income.

I always have one regular girl on Arrangement and a couple on PPM mainly for threeways with my main.

[QUOTE=Casper11;7030847]Need to look at big picture and how many meets per month you want. An arrangement can always be made at a lower rate than a typical ppm. Now I'm difficult and I know it and expect an unreasonable performance out of them. Porn star experience, threeways, anal, ass to mouth, cim, swallow, golden showers, anal and pussy pumps. Typically I've gotten 3 meets per week for a monthly allowance $4,000. If I wasnt expecting so much I bet $3,000 month for 3 dates week would work which equates to $250 per meet. The allowance takes the pressure off girl cause she get a minimum per month no matter what. PPm she may need multiple SD and an unreliable income.

I always have one regular girl on Arrangement and a couple on PPM mainly for threeways with my main.[/QUOTE]Is it hard finding one willing to do all you ask?

[QUOTE=Jimmyh9;7031446]Is it hard finding one willing to do all you ask?[/QUOTE]Yes, for what Casper wants. I want a lighter version of his requirements and that is not easy. If you want just the usual stuff, that is a given in those connections. Casper, can you post the links of the ladies you have had success with? I post reports in OH and FL and mention the ones I have met and had luck with. I don't post details but I do mention if I met them or if they are a scam/deposit before meet type of profile.

Casper, clear your inbox.

[QUOTE=SR7D1;7031524]Yes, for what Casper wants. I want a lighter version of his requirements and that is not easy. If you want just the usual stuff, that is a given in those connections. Casper, can you post the links of the ladies you have had success with? I post reports in OH and FL and mention the ones I have met and had luck with. I don't post details but I do mention if I met them or if they are a scam/deposit before meet type of profile.

Casper, clear your inbox. ;-)[/QUOTE]It just takes a lot of outreach to weed through the GPS and fakes to find the right one but they are there. I will say most of these quality women won't take well to being reviewed or having their info put out there unless they are a pro. Most of the good ones I have met value their privacy as much as we do. But on't let that stop you. I love the reviews!

[QUOTE=Casper11;7030847]Need to look at big picture and how many meets per month you want. An arrangement can always be made at a lower rate than a typical ppm. Now I'm difficult and I know it and expect an unreasonable performance out of them. Porn star experience, threeways, anal, ass to mouth, cim, swallow, golden showers, anal and pussy pumps. Typically I've gotten 3 meets per week for a monthly allowance $4,000. If I wasnt expecting so much I bet $3,000 month for 3 dates week would work which equates to $250 per meet. The allowance takes the pressure off girl cause she get a minimum per month no matter what. PPm she may need multiple SD and an unreliable income.

I always have one regular girl on Arrangement and a couple on PPM mainly for threeways with my main.[/QUOTE]I have one monthly at 2500 (once a week meet) and I keep a few PPM. I like my PPM at between 2 $-3 $ and I expect them to be as nasty as I desire. I think that is pretty much standard in this game. The problem is when the PPM wants 5 $-6 $ and doesn't want to do the most, which is what is happening right now.

[QUOTE=BiggDogg70;7031615]It just takes a lot of outreach to weed through the GPS and fakes to find the right one but they are there. I will say most of these quality women won't take well to being reviewed or having their info put out there unless they are a pro. Most of the good ones I have met value their privacy as much as we do. But on't let that stop you. I love the reviews![/QUOTE]I've stopped recent reviews girls cause some have confronted me, even ended an arrangement over it.

Look at my past reviews the girls often go in and out of sugaring.

It takes me sleeping with about 10-16 girls before I find one I can work with. Then over time get them to do everything and anything I can think up. That takes getting the girl to actually trust and like you. Which takes time and mentoring them with their life. Give them security financial and advice and they tend to want to not loose that and will work with you on your kinks and desires.

[QUOTE=Casper11;7031796]I've stopped recent reviews girls cause some have confronted me, even ended an arrangement over it.

Look at my past reviews the girls often go in and out of sugaring.

It takes me sleeping with about 10-16 girls before I find one I can work with. Then over time get them to do everything and anything I can think up. That takes getting the girl to actually trust and like you. Which takes time and mentoring them with their life. Give them security financial and advice and they tend to want to not loose that and will work with you on your kinks and desires.[/QUOTE]To be clear, I myself was not asking for a review. I as well do not review SBs. I do however let members know who I have met and if they are real or scam profiles. What I am asking for is who have you met that has given you what you are looking for. I will reach out to them on the site. If they are interested, they will let me know.

[QUOTE=SR7D1;7032165]To be clear, I myself was not asking for a review. I as well do not review SBs. I do however let members know who I have met and if they are real or scam profiles. What I am asking for is who have you met that has given you what you are looking for. I will reach out to them on the site. If they are interested, they will let me know.[/QUOTE]I have met a handful over time of sincere beautiful women on SA, most of the relationships have lasted 6 months or so and for one reason or another we moved on. There out there rare but out there, a lot of UTRS short term ppm too.

Holy shit I found one! Had some comms from an early 40's SA woman for almost a month, exchanged pics and got to know each other a little. It took a while because she is very low key, going through a divorce and has a kid so discretion is a must. Agreed on a PPM but didn't think it was going to go anywhere, our timing just wasn't working, but we finally met tonight for drinks, and DAMN! Probably 5'4" maybe 125 lbs, very nice made-mades that look real and are sized for her body.

Went back to her place as she does not have her kid this week. Nice clean small home. Leads me to her room, the deep kissing starts, then she undresses herself and me. Very nice BBBJ on the bed, then I swing her around for some 69 and it was ohh so beautiful and tasty. Perfectly shaved and smooth. She O'd on my face, flipped over, grabbed my goods, and sat right down. Many positions were had, more oral for both of us. At one point she grabs a small vibrator and starts rubbing her clit while I'm pounding her P in missionary. She is definitely multi orgasmic. After almost 45 minutes, I finally unloaded inside her because she is telling me to in a very sexy voice. That just sent me over the edge. A little clean up and we exchange some kisses before I had to head home.

So yes, after many strikeouts, I finally found one. Hopefully it continues.

[QUOTE=SaltAndPepper;7032363]Holy shit I found one! Had some comms from an early 40's SA woman for almost a month, exchanged pics and got to know each other a little. It took a while because she is very low key, going through a divorce and has a kid so discretion is a must. Agreed on a PPM but didn't think it was going to go anywhere, our timing just wasn't working, but we finally met tonight for drinks, and DAMN! Probably 5'4" maybe 125 lbs, very nice made-mades that look real and are sized for her body.

Went back to her place as she does not have her kid this week. Nice clean small home. Leads me to her room, the deep kissing starts, then she undresses herself and me. Very nice BBBJ on the bed, then I swing her around for some 69 and it was ohh so beautiful and tasty. Perfectly shaved and smooth. She O'd on my face, flipped over, grabbed my goods, and sat right down. Many positions were had, more oral for both of us. At one point she grabs a small vibrator and starts rubbing her clit while I'm pounding her P in missionary. She is definitely multi orgasmic. After almost 45 minutes, I finally unloaded inside her because she is telling me to in a very sexy voice. That just sent me over the edge. A little clean up and we exchange some kisses before I had to head home.

So yes, after many strikeouts, I finally found one. Hopefully it continues.[/QUOTE]Sounds great. I have had success many times myself, but I was talking about finding the women that Casper finds, spicy. Sharing a story, which is very nice, is one thing. What we look for here though is actual links so that we can try them as well. Sharing is caring. LOL.

[QUOTE=SR7D1;7032567]Sounds great. I have had success many times myself, but I was talking about finding the women that Casper finds, spicy. Sharing a story, which is very nice, is one thing. What we look for here though is actual links so that we can try them as well. Sharing is caring. LOL.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately (but fortunate for me) she is on the DL and wants to stay that way. Between her job, her kid, and getting a divorce, she says she can't take any chances and is only looking for occasional fun with one. I made the post for others out there that have been feeling the same way I have, I've been on and off SA a few times, its taken quite a bit of work to finally make a good connection, and it was over a month of chatting with her before we actually met, BUT, it did happen. I have a significant other, so this works perfect for me as well. Time will tell.

[QUOTE=SaltAndPepper;7032675]Unfortunately (but fortunate for me) she is on the DL and wants to stay that way. Between her job, her kid, and getting a divorce, she says she can't take any chances and is only looking for occasional fun with one. I made the post for others out there that have been feeling the same way I have, I've been on and off SA a few times, its taken quite a bit of work to finally make a good connection, and it was over a month of chatting with her before we actually met, BUT, it did happen. I have a significant other, so this works perfect for me as well. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Be careful. Have you checked to see if she is still active on Seeking? You are rarely if ever the only option she has, no matter what she tells you. You are good till more $ comes along.

She popped up on my radar. Seems like my cup of tea. Wondering if there is any experience with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eedd20c1-7d0a-4ef5-8593-237b1ba6fb4f[/URL]

[QUOTE=SR7D1;7032770]Be careful. Have you checked to see if she is still active on Seeking? You are rarely if ever the only option she has, no matter what she tells you. You are good till more $ comes along.[/QUOTE]Absolutely being careful, I know there may be others but we had some pretty deep conversations before we met. At the same time I'm not going to be naive about it either. Just checked and although she still has a profile, it shows last active over 2 months ago which is right about when we first had contact. I'll enjoy it while it lasts!

[QUOTE=Casper11;7029463]After the hurricanes (I'm in construction industry) I bought a hotel room ($120 k which becomes tax rightoff) in an inexpensive hotel (2-3 star) set it up with sex toys, sex furniture. Not exactly romantic but I am not comfortable having SBs in my primary residence.[/QUOTE]How do you go about buying a hotel room?

[QUOTE=Zomgb;7036814]How do you go about buying a hotel room?[/QUOTE]About 5% of hotels are run where the units are owned by individuals and the hotel rents them out and splits the rental fee with you. This way a hotel can buy a hotel, sell the rooms and have no debt on the property.

Just have to look on Zillow.

They arent common but they exist.

[QUOTE=Zomgb;7036814]How do you go about buying a hotel room?[/QUOTE]It is a Co-op. You own the right to occupy and control the room but ownership of the structure remains in the hands of the operator.

Anyone have a 30% off SA code I can use? Thought I'd try it after 5 months off.