Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6727662]This is for the owners of Hypno (Believe, Shell Station) or anyone in contact with them. Here are a couple of vacancies that might work for a new location for them, better than that place by the 22 that was mostly surrounded by a church.

In Santa Ana north of 17th and a block east of Tustin is the north-sound street Ponderosa. A little up from 17th on the east side there's an L-shaped strip mall. There's a legit MP in there. MMS used to run two non-adacent MP's in there but closed one down I guess due to no need for it. That slot is now vacant, as well as the shop next door. The mall has a bar, tattoo shop, and nail salon among others. Low volume foot traffic.

And then just south of there facing Ponderosa across from Chick fil A is an empty shop. Around 2008 or so when I started following this board there had been an MP in there, well reviewed; I remember a comment that "the girls from Ponderosa" had moved up to a yellow house on Lincoln, which closed down shortly thereafter. Then another MP moved into the Ponderosa placeI never saw it reviewed here so I guess it was legit. Anyhow that slot is vacant now too.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Since you supposedly got so many numbers and know all the mamas and papasans. Go recruit and open one your self. Smarty pants!!

Asian MILF w 12 year old meets a monger at 440.

Then dates. Then she stalks him because they met only 2 times outside of the AMP.

Then she moves in w her 12 yr old. And washes his clothes and sex. Expects $4 k a month. Then she complains. That she makes over 10 k and she only w you because she fell in love with you. Covid hits. She just opened up her own AMP in Westminster. Place gets shut down because of strict covid draconian laws in so cal. Tells you to pay for her $5 k mortgage and expects you to pay for everything including the property tax that's $11 k a year. Then screams at you for talking and texting your. Girl friends. Girls that are friends. Then. Accused you or sleeping with one of your Lesbo friend. That is married. And then screams daily what a bastard you are. And complains daily to her other AMP friends. How you stole all her $$ Mind you that I'm still with her and takes all the blame. Even they are false and paranoid stories. So ya. What would you do? A. Never fall in line with a girl. B. Never fall in love with a stripper. C. you pay no matter what!! A. Hooker. Stripper. AMP girl. Concubine. At least a hooker. You get to go home an have some peace.

[QUOTE=AlCapone2006;6751870]Asian MILF w 12 year old meets a monger at 440.

Then dates. Then she stalks him because they met only 2 times outside of the AMP.

Then she moves in w her 12 yr old. And washes his clothes and sex. Expects $4 k a month. Then she complains. That she makes over 10 k and she only w you because she fell in love with you. Covid hits. She just opened up her own AMP in Westminster. Place gets shut down because of strict covid draconian laws in so cal. Tells you to pay for her $5 k mortgage and expects you to pay for everything including the property tax that's $11 k a year. Then screams at you for talking and texting your. Girl friends. Girls that are friends. Then. Accused you or sleeping with one of your Lesbo friend. That is married. And then screams daily what a bastard you are. And complains daily to her other AMP friends. How you stole all her $$ Mind you that I'm still with her and takes all the blame. Even they are false and paranoid stories. So ya. What would you do? A. Never fall in line with a girl. B. Never fall in love with a stripper. C. you pay no matter what!! A. Hooker. Stripper. AMP girl. Concubine. At least a hooker. You get to go home an have some peace.[/QUOTE]Dude, what the fuck are you talking about?

[QUOTE=AlCapone2006;6751870]Asian MILF w 12 year old meets a monger at 440.

Then dates. Then she stalks him because they met only 2 times outside of the AMP.

Then she moves in w her 12 yr old. And washes his clothes and sex. Expects $4 k a month. Then she complains. That she makes over 10 k and she only w you because she fell in love with you. Covid hits. She just opened up her own AMP in Westminster. Place gets shut down because of strict covid draconian laws in so cal. Tells you to pay for her $5 k mortgage and expects you to pay for everything including the property tax that's $11 k a year. Then screams at you for talking and texting your. Girl friends. Girls that are friends. Then. Accused you or sleeping with one of your Lesbo friend. That is married. And then screams daily what a bastard you are. And complains daily to her other AMP friends. How you stole all her $$ Mind you that I'm still with her and takes all the blame. Even they are false and paranoid stories. So ya. What would you do? A. Never fall in line with a girl. B. Never fall in love with a stripper. C. you pay no matter what!! A. Hooker. Stripper. AMP girl. Concubine. At least a hooker. You get to go home an have some peace.[/QUOTE]You nailed the title of this thread. Stupid for sure to go down this road.

[QUOTE=AlCapone2006;6751870]Asian MILF w 12 year old meets a monger at 440.

Then dates. Then she stalks him because they met only 2 times outside of the AMP.

Then she moves in w her 12 yr old. And washes his clothes and sex. Expects $4 k a month. Then she complains. That she makes over 10 k and she only w you because she fell in love with you. Covid hits. She just opened up her own AMP in Westminster. Place gets shut down because of strict covid draconian laws in so cal. Tells you to pay for her $5 k mortgage and expects you to pay for everything including the property tax that's $11 k a year. Then screams at you for talking and texting your. Girl friends. Girls that are friends. Then. Accused you or sleeping with one of your Lesbo friend. That is married. And then screams daily what a bastard you are. And complains daily to her other AMP friends. How you stole all her $$ Mind you that I'm still with her and takes all the blame. Even they are false and paranoid stories. So ya. What would you do? A. Never fall in line with a girl. B. Never fall in love with a stripper. C. you pay no matter what!! A. Hooker. Stripper. AMP girl. Concubine. At least a hooker. You get to go home an have some peace.[/QUOTE]What a lovely romantic story. Perhaps a remake of "Love Story" might be in the offing with this story as the plotline?

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6751899]Dude, what the fuck are you talking about?[/QUOTE]If you think this is unhinged, check out his thread in the MP thread where he talks about his vomiting blood after 69'ing some lucky lady.

I know its extremely rare, prostitution is basically decriminalized in California, and they pretty much have to catch you mid thrust, but anyone have experience with this? I'm always paranoid about this, or getting too comfortable at a parlor that I frequent and being there while something shady goes down. Its like the very very tippy top of the underworld and I know it can get dark fast. I figure staying out of the more upscale neighborhoods, nobody will complain about these parlors.

[QUOTE=DronePilot;6752389]I know its extremely rare, prostitution is basically decriminalized in California, and they pretty much have to catch you mid thrust, but anyone have experience with this? I'm always paranoid about this, or getting too comfortable at a parlor that I frequent and being there while something shady goes down. Its like the very very tippy top of the underworld and I know it can get dark fast. I figure staying out of the more upscale neighborhoods, nobody will complain about these parlors.[/QUOTE]I was actually at Haven during one of the license checks. It was a FS session but we hadn't actually got to that part yet. I guess they have a master lights switch or something. The lights came on and the girl jumped up, grabbed her shit and ran out of the room. Never said a word to me. I calmly got dressed and was simply asked to leave by LE. They weren't interested in me.

[QUOTE=DronePilot;6752389]I know its extremely rare, prostitution is basically decriminalized in California, and they pretty much have to catch you mid thrust, but anyone have experience with this? I'm always paranoid about this, or getting too comfortable at a parlor that I frequent and being there while something shady goes down. Its like the very very tippy top of the underworld and I know it can get dark fast. I figure staying out of the more upscale neighborhoods, nobody will complain about these parlors.[/QUOTE]I would think the AMPs would be the safest option in this respect. LEO would have to burst through the door and catch you with your cock in the girl's pussy. If they shook down a parlor while you happened to be in there, your story is simple. Sign on the door says massage, I came for a massage.

I would however worry about a sting happening in a hotel. That would be the riskiest option, in my opinion. Next riskiest would be the apartment AMP. As with the hotel, you have no legitimate excuse as to why you are there other than for fucking a prostitute.

[QUOTE=DronePilot;6752389]I know its extremely rare, prostitution is basically decriminalized in California, and they pretty much have to catch you mid thrust, but anyone have experience with this? I'm always paranoid about this, or getting too comfortable at a parlor that I frequent and being there while something shady goes down. It's like the very very tippy top of the underworld and I know it can get dark fast. I figure staying out of the more upscale neighborhoods, nobody will complain about these parlors.[/QUOTE]Rare it is, but not as rare during an election year, so it has seemed. I'm not sure it matters any, mid trust or what ever. LE more than one thing to prove, part involves agreement to a sexual act for some sort of consideration, and the act itself. The sex part, they still need to prove it wasn't just two people going at it because they found themselves mutually attractive.

I'd imagine, they would / could take your name and other info and send you letters about the event, asking for you help to solve the crime. That would be enough to make it difficult on many of us.

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6752496]I would think the AMPs would be the safest option in this respect. LEO would have to burst through the door and catch you with your cock in the girl's pussy. If they shook down a parlor while you happened to be in there, your story is simple. Sign on the door says massage, I came for a massage.

I would however worry about a sting happening in a hotel. That would be the riskiest option, in my opinion. Next riskiest would be the apartment AMP. As with the hotel, you have no legitimate excuse as to why you are there other than for fucking a prostitute.[/QUOTE]Its not against the law to have sex. You were in the middle of a great massage session, and passion took over, you two crazy kids ended up having sex. There was no discussion of an exchange of sex for money. It was just hormones and consenting adults.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;6752604]Rare it is, but not as rare during an election year, so it has seemed. I'm not sure it matters any, mid trust or what ever. LE more than one thing to prove, part involves agreement to a sexual act for some sort of consideration, and the act itself. The sex part, they still need to prove it wasn't just two people going at it because they found themselves mutually attractive.

I'd imagine, they would / could take your name and other info and send you letters about the event, asking for you help to solve the crime. That would be enough to make it difficult on many of us.[/QUOTE]The biggest danger might be the shaming. In other states, they post the names and photos of the providers or johns. You can find mugshots of Chinese women online where they were arrested, photographed, and then the pics pubiished in the newspaper.

[QUOTE=DronePilot;6752389]I know its extremely rare, prostitution is basically decriminalized in California, and they pretty much have to catch you mid thrust, but anyone have experience with this? I'm always paranoid about this, or getting too comfortable at a parlor that I frequent and being there while something shady goes down. Its like the very very tippy top of the underworld and I know it can get dark fast. I figure staying out of the more upscale neighborhoods, nobody will complain about these parlors.[/QUOTE]50/50.

The AMPs only get raided cause neighboring legit businesses complain about the foot traffic!

Dumbasses leaving cigarette buds, trash, loitering at all hours so business will call popo.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;6752604]Rare it is, but not as rare during an election year, so it has seemed. I'm not sure it matters any, mid trust or what ever. LE more than one thing to prove, part involves agreement to a sexual act for some sort of consideration, and the act itself. The sex part, they still need to prove it wasn't just two people going at it because they found themselves mutually attractive.

I'd imagine, they would / could take your name and other info and send you letters about the event, asking for you help to solve the crime. That would be enough to make it difficult on many of us.[/QUOTE]Problem solved. If you want puss that bad.

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6752496]I would think the AMPs would be the safest option in this respect. LEO would have to burst through the door and catch you with your cock in the girl's pussy. If they shook down a parlor while you happened to be in there, your story is simple. Sign on the door says massage, I came for a massage.

I would however worry about a sting happening in a hotel. That would be the riskiest option, in my opinion. Next riskiest would be the apartment AMP. As with the hotel, you have no legitimate excuse as to why you are there other than for fucking a prostitute.[/QUOTE]Circle the place a few times. Check out a few donut shops if there are a bunch of marked cop cars parked nearby.

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[QUOTE=AlCapone2006;6751867]Since you supposedly got so many numbers and know all the mamas and papasans. Go recruit and open one your self. Smarty pants!![/QUOTE]Hi Al, You may have me confused with someone else. I have the phone number of just one provider, and I don't know any PPS or MMS personally, I don't even think I know any of their names.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6752658]The biggest danger might be the shaming. In other states, they post the names and photos of the providers or johns. You can find mugshots of Chinese women online where they were arrested, photographed, and then the pics pubiished in the newspaper.[/QUOTE]They have done this in the past, both OC Sheriff and Santa Ana PD. Could be other jurisdictions that have also had a webpage for johns locally, but just haven't come across it, yet.

Santa Ana, still has the page up, but no photos on it. Says, the photo's will stay up for 15 days. It seems it would include only arrested and charged, so a higher bar than just investigated.

I could be mistaken on OC Sheriff, I might be recalling OC Sheriff in FL, which BTW, OC Sheriff now tweets out the John photo's on a periodic basis. Oh, they also have an Instagram page with same / similar info.

I wrote this before, but I hate dealing with independents. The "direct connection" means nothing to me if we can't have any connection at all. Most of them have no idea what they're doing and are totally flaky for no reason even when you show dedication to try and work with them. Do you want business or not? If any independents read this, get a booker and make everyone's life easier.

There's my rant LOL.

Do you mongers get anything out of having your nipples fiddled with? I've had so many women twiddle or suck on my nipples thinking it's something that I want done, and maybe it's just me but it does absolutely nothing for me. They're not dead, I mean if I pinch them I feel pain, but there's zero pleasurable sensitivity going on. I figure it must be good for some of you all, otherwise why would so many women think it's bringing men pleasure. Need some feedback before I start asking the girl just who the fuck told you this was a good thing to do.

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6772498]Do you mongers get anything out of having your nipples fiddled with? I've had so many women twiddle or suck on my nipples thinking it's something that I want done, and maybe it's just me but it does absolutely nothing for me. They're not dead, I mean if I pinch them I feel pain, but there's zero pleasurable sensitivity going on. I figure it must be good for some of you all, otherwise why would so many women think it's bringing men pleasure. Need some feedback before I start asking the girl just who the fuck told you this was a good thing to do.[/QUOTE]I love nipple ply, especially having them locked and sucked on. It's a personal preference though, just like it is for the girls. Some love having their tits sucked and some can't stand it. Most tolerate it because they know we love suckin on them but not all enjoy it.

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6772498]Do you mongers get anything out of having your nipples fiddled with? I've had so many women twiddle or suck on my nipples thinking it's something that I want done, and maybe it's just me but it does absolutely nothing for me. They're not dead, I mean if I pinch them I feel pain, but there's zero pleasurable sensitivity going on. I figure it must be good for some of you all, otherwise why would so many women think it's bringing men pleasure. Need some feedback before I start asking the girl just who the fuck told you this was a good thing to do.[/QUOTE]I get just a little additional arousal from it. Yeah, the first time someone did it for me I was surprised. Generally I just go with the flow and I'm glad the girl wants to do stuff she thinks turns me on, always grateful for that. But it's nothing I seek out. Little kisses on my nipples do more than the other stuff. Oh, there was this one time someone used a vibrator on my nipples, that was way way too much.

Interesting topic, thanks for bringing it up.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6772623]. . . for the girls. Some love having their tits sucked and some can't stand it. Most tolerate it because they know we love suckin on them but not all enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Grimmy, Thanks for this obseration. I didn't realize so many weren't turned on by it. I thought it was just a pathological few.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6772633]Grimmy, Thanks for this obseration. I didn't realize so many weren't turned on by it. I thought it was just a pathological few.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]I just figure they are that guys like licking and sucking and touching the girls nipples, so maybe it's just a human thing, a body thing?

Do unto others?

I don't mind it, but she is not bad nor good. I do like that it puts her face much closer to me (my eyes) which is more intimate and enjoyable. My teeth aren't great so I don't get much on the lfk or dfk, so having her face close is about as girlfriend as I often see.

On that subject, I guess many guys dig this but girls, suck the stick but leave my eggs out of your mouth. I don't want unnecessary squeezes there, or some random out of whack twist that hurts way more than it should.

So I've been seeing this woman for 6-7 years. She's in her late 30's early 40's, me breaking into my 60's. She's still attractive, has a nice bod, is very smart and has her own burliness, and is very amicable and has never said no to anything I asked her to do. Problem is she apparently doesn't cut it for Jr. Anymore. I don't know if it's me getting older or if it's the familiarity factor or something else. With her, Jr. Does wake up, puts out a valiant effort, but in a minute or two goes back to sleep and doesn't deliver the goods. Same Jr. Is a total party animal with other girls whom I find attractive and even some whom I don't. So at this point, I just want to break if off and go seek some greener pastures, but I want to do it as nicely as possible. I don't want to leave her on bad terms or hurt her feelings.

So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So I've been seeing this woman for 6-7 years. She's in her late 30's early 40's, me breaking into my 60's. She's still attractive, has a nice bod, is very smart and has her own burliness, and is very amicable and has never said no to anything I asked her to do. Problem is she apparently doesn't cut it for Jr. Anymore. I don't know if it's me getting older or if it's the familiarity factor or something else. With her, Jr. Does wake up, puts out a valiant effort, but in a minute or two goes back to sleep and doesn't deliver the goods. Same Jr. Is a total party animal with other girls whom I find attractive and even some whom I don't. So at this point, I just want to break if off and go seek some greener pastures, but I want to do it as nicely as possible. I don't want to leave her on bad terms or hurt her feelings.

So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]Caught something.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]Your dad died and you need time.

Traveling the world.

Your friend is taking you to Thailand to show you his top 5 18 year olds.

Through therapy you realize you are truly a woman inside.

You have HIV.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]This actually hapened to an older relative of mine. He was diagnosed with prostate cancer. You seem to be in the same age group where this diagnosis is plausible. Just say you are scheduled for surgery then radiation. After his treatments, he was in remission, but had permanent ED as a terrible side effect. So no more boom boom for him.

I would not tell the woman you are dumping that you have some STD. That might come back to haunt you. Who will criticize a cancer survivor?

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6772498]Do you mongers get anything out of having your nipples fiddled with? I've had so many women twiddle or suck on my nipples thinking it's something that I want done, and maybe it's just me but it does absolutely nothing for me. They're not dead, I mean if I pinch them I feel pain, but there's zero pleasurable sensitivity going on. I figure it must be good for some of you all, otherwise why would so many women think it's bringing men pleasure. Need some feedback before I start asking the girl just who the fuck told you this was a good thing to do.[/QUOTE]Nothing big for me.

Let's review what the deal is for women. The prime physiological function of nipples is to feed the offspring. Mom needs a reward for that. When baby is dining, it causes the release of oxytocin. This is a hormone that affects cognition and promotes feelings of warmth, attachment, and love. Increases the bond to the kid, so mom stays around to raise it to independence. Some will recognize other things that cause oxytocin release, such as orgasms. And some women breast-feeding get them. There are some really hot videos out on the web of this, I recommend them.

It is intrinsically different for women than men to have nipples stimulated, because we don't have any biological imperative to get a benefit therefrom. I can also believe, just because of natural genetic variation, that there are women who don't particularly get anything out of nursing, and also wouldn't care if we licked / sucked their nipples in a sexual way. However, in many women nipple stim is an important component of arousal, and for guys, like me, I enjoy doing it. Large puffy nipples are a real turn-on in porn. I've not had an IRL woman with anything like those I've seen. I might have an old photo of a past lover who I really did enjoy, she had native american heritage. It does seem some asian women people report in massage parlors heareabouts sometimes have impressive nipples.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6778927]Nothing big for me.

Let's review what the deal is for women. The prime physiological function of nipples is to feed the offspring. Mom needs a reward for that. When baby is dining, it causes the release of oxytocin. This is a hormone that affects cognition and promotes feelings of warmth, attachment, and love. Increases the bond to the kid, so mom stays around to raise it to independence. Some will recognize other things that cause oxytocin release, such as orgasms. And some women breast-feeding get them. There are some really hot videos out on the web of this, I recommend them.

It is intrinsically different for women than men to have nipples stimulated, because we don't have any biological imperative to get a benefit therefrom. I can also believe, just because of natural genetic variation, that there are women who don't particularly get anything out of nursing, and also wouldn't care if we licked / sucked their nipples in a sexual way. However, in many women nipple stim is an important component of arousal, and for guys, like me, I enjoy doing it. Large puffy nipples are a real turn-on in porn. I've not had an IRL woman with anything like those I've seen. I might have an old photo of a past lover who I really did enjoy, she had native american heritage. It does seem some asian women people report in massage parlors heareabouts sometimes have impressive nipples.[/QUOTE]Makes perfect sense to me. I've had girlfriends who were turned on by nipple play, stimulating themselves during sex. So I just wondered if it was mostly a gender thing, as you point out, or if I was just built funny.

That ro. Co commercial that has the woman saying, "I had no idea that a little tiny prick could be so powerful": Does anyone else besides me find that gut-busting funny?

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6790047]That ro. Co commercial that has the woman saying, "I had no idea that a little tiny prick could be so powerful": Does anyone else besides me find that gut-busting funny?

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Yeah that was pretty hilarious. I'm surprised they got away with that.

[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;6781166]Makes perfect sense to me. I've had girlfriends who were turned on by nipple play, stimulating themselves during sex. So I just wondered if it was mostly a gender thing, as you point out, or if I was just built funny.[/QUOTE]Last time I saw Sunny in K-town I started sucking on her nipples enough that she got turned on. During sex she gave me a couple of properly placed double nipple pinches that were such a turn on that it got me even harder and felt good. I have been with many Chinese women and never got much out of it and just allowed it and hoped they would work their way to my dick. With the right person to me it was stimulating and keyed me in that I could bite her nips and it IMO made for a more advanced session.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So I've been seeing this woman for 6-7 years. She's in her late 30's early 40's, me breaking into my 60's. She's still attractive, has a nice bod, is very smart and has her own burliness, and is very amicable and has never said no to anything I asked her to do. Problem is she apparently doesn't cut it for Jr. Anymore. I don't know if it's me getting older or if it's the familiarity factor or something else. With her, Jr. Does wake up, puts out a valiant effort, but in a minute or two goes back to sleep and doesn't deliver the goods. Same Jr. Is a total party animal with other girls whom I find attractive and even some whom I don't. So at this point, I just want to break if off and go seek some greener pastures, but I want to do it as nicely as possible. I don't want to leave her on bad terms or hurt her feelings.

So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]Tell her you are moving away / across the country. If you ever come back, you will come and visit. Kiss & bye bye.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So I've been seeing this woman for 6-7 years. She's in her late 30's early 40's, me breaking into my 60's. She's still attractive, has a nice bod, is very smart and has her own burliness, and is very amicable and has never said no to anything I asked her to do. Problem is she apparently doesn't cut it for Jr. Anymore. I don't know if it's me getting older or if it's the familiarity factor or something else. With her, Jr. Does wake up, puts out a valiant effort, but in a minute or two goes back to sleep and doesn't deliver the goods. Same Jr. Is a total party animal with other girls whom I find attractive and even some whom I don't. So at this point, I just want to break if off and go seek some greener pastures, but I want to do it as nicely as possible. I don't want to leave her on bad terms or hurt her feelings.

So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]Are your visits routine. Is she the only one servicing you at that level? Or, do you have a wide rotation so that you see her every 2 or three weeks? Or maybe you need an enhancer.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So I've been seeing this woman for 6-7 years. She's in her late 30's early 40's, me breaking into my 60's. She's still attractive, has a nice bod, is very smart and has her own burliness, and is very amicable and has never said no to anything I asked her to do. Problem is she apparently doesn't cut it for Jr. Anymore. I don't know if it's me getting older or if it's the familiarity factor or something else. With her, Jr. Does wake up, puts out a valiant effort, but in a minute or two goes back to sleep and doesn't deliver the goods. Same Jr. Is a total party animal with other girls whom I find attractive and even some whom I don't. So at this point, I just want to break if off and go seek some greener pastures, but I want to do it as nicely as possible. I don't want to leave her on bad terms or hurt her feelings.

So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]How do you know you are also her side piece?

In any case, just like any stale relationship, one qould say you need some time away. And then not respond to her messages.

People can tell and will just move on.

At least in my experience. Happens to me too. Goea both ways. You may feel a little hurt. But next! LOL!

[QUOTE=Caribe;6791776]Are your visits routine. Is she the only one servicing you at that level? Or, do you have a wide rotation so that you see her every 2 or three weeks? Or maybe you need an enhancer.[/QUOTE]II see her every couple of weeks. Nothing's off the table. I'm not into meds. She's very persistent with messaging. I do see others, and I'm sure she does too, although I've never asked her point blank who or how many. She doesn't advertise and hasn't been in the 'business' since long before Covid. She has her own non-AMP business now and drives a nicer car than I do. There is no romance or anything like that. It's just boom boom and we go our separate ways, so it's more like I'm her booty call, LOL. I just want a nice, clean break, but I want to do it nicely, as I'm sure I'll be running into her in restaurants or markets at some point. I don't want that awkward situation or having to look over my shoulder. Not responding to her messages is not an option if I want a 'nice" break. And to top if off, another character flaw of mine, I'm not a good liar.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6793040]II see her every couple of weeks. Nothing's off the table. I'm not into meds. She's very persistent with messaging. I do see others, and I'm sure she does too, although I've never asked her point blank who or how many. She doesn't advertise and hasn't been in the 'business' since long before Covid. She has her own non-AMP business now and drives a nicer car than I do. There is no romance or anything like that. It's just boom boom and we go our separate ways, so it's more like I'm her booty call, LOL. I just want a nice, clean break, but I want to do it nicely, as I'm sure I'll be running into her in restaurants or markets at some point. I don't want that awkward situation or having to look over my shoulder. Not responding to her messages is not an option if I want a 'nice" break. And to top if off, another character flaw of mine, I'm not a good liar.[/QUOTE]Don't see the value in making up a story, especially if lying isn't your forte. Just tell her the truth, gently. You really like her but the spark is gone and it's time to move on.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;6775775]So I've been seeing this woman for 6-7 years. She's in her late 30's early 40's, me breaking into my 60's. She's still attractive, has a nice bod, is very smart and has her own burliness, and is very amicable and has never said no to anything I asked her to do. Problem is she apparently doesn't cut it for Jr. Anymore. I don't know if it's me getting older or if it's the familiarity factor or something else. With her, Jr. Does wake up, puts out a valiant effort, but in a minute or two goes back to sleep and doesn't deliver the goods. Same Jr. Is a total party animal with other girls whom I find attractive and even some whom I don't. So at this point, I just want to break if off and go seek some greener pastures, but I want to do it as nicely as possible. I don't want to leave her on bad terms or hurt her feelings.

So, my question to the esteemed members here is: how do you break it off with your ATF?[/QUOTE]You want to cut her off 100%? Why? Sounds like you have a good thing going on. Every couple of weeks should be fine. Does your pecker do the same thing with other women or just her? Getting a flat tire for me is if I smoke a couple of city's I make sure if I want smash that pussy I don't smoke. I was texting back and forth with a provider like you but would respond back 2-4 hours later. Then it became less frequent. The plus with your friend is she has her own business so she's not going to ask you for money she has her own.

Hitting 60 shouldn't be an issue. As long as I know that smoking caused me running out of gas that's easily decision to make.