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Hi guys, long time lurker here. Stumbled onto this forum and found it fascinating. Signed up for SA a couple of weeks ago and finally went out on my first date a couple nights ago. She is an 18 year old Latina from the South Bay. While she doesn't have a traditionally beautiful face, she has very striking features and a killer body. We played phone / text tag for a couple weeks (she also flaked on me at the last minute once) until we finally decided on a date and time.

She didn't have a car, so I picked her up. There was a great sense of anticipation as I parked across the street from her residence. I half expected her to flake out on me again. Finally she emerges, wearing short shorts and a very tight halter top. She wasn't the most photogenic girl in her profile, but in person she looked like sex.

She nervously got in my car and I complimented her on her looks. She smiled shyly and looked away, saying she was embarrassed by compliments.

I took her to dinner and she ended up being a real sweetheart, even a little innocent and naive. She claimed this was her first SB / SD meeting, and I think I believe her.

Now for the real test -- getting her back to my designated FC. I asked if she wanted a night cap, which she agreed to. But since she's under 21, bars were obviously out of the question, so I mentioned that I had a place close by. We could have one drink and then I'd drive her home. She hesitated and kind of trailed off. I gently pushed, saying it was just one drink. She hesitated again. I decided not to push the issue and drove her home. I was obviously really looking forward to that drink, but didn't want the situation to devolve into anything regretful or disrespectful.

She promised she would have that drink with me next time -- hopefully not being a pushy jerk won me enough brownie points for some fun the next time.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2626431]I'm not a sugar daddy and don't play one on TV, but from reading the boards.

NO!!

You are the Boss. Don't hire anyone until they've proven themselves as a resource. Dress to impress so as to give the impression that you're all that, plus a cherry on top. Have a walk away attitude because you're too busy with real life shit to worry about an idiotic 20 something with no real value to the universe other than a couple orifices to fill.

Seriously.[/QUOTE]The walk away attitude is very important. IDK about the dress code. A nice house and car helps in the long run but they don't get to see that before they greet you. I admit the white girls are a pain and expensive. If you like drama there is plenty of that. I look for the LTR types. They are rare but worth all the tsuris I have to go through to finally land one.

[QUOTE=Ed209;2626282]Context:

So I just recently started looking into all this, registering at sd4 m and Sa. I've gotten a few messages, some real knockouts.

I don't typically go for black girls, and most of my responses have been non-black girls, but all the SB pics I see on here recently are of black girls.

Question.

So have guys had any success with youngish non-black girls on these sites?

Also, how do you suggest that first encounter goes? Do I take her shopping and see where it leads (sounds dumb) or do we run straight to a hotel?[/QUOTE]Thats mostly my fault. I have an unending need for chocolate pussy.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2626431]I'm not a sugar daddy and don't play one on TV, but from reading the boards.

NO!!

You are the Boss. Don't hire anyone until they've proven themselves as a resource. Dress to impress so as to give the impression that you're all that, plus a cherry on top. Have a walk away attitude because you're too busy with real life shit to worry about an idiotic 20 something with no real value to the universe other than a couple orifices to fill.

Seriously.[/QUOTE]I agree. Do not take them shopping or that's what you're going to do all the time. It's like shopping for a car. You may want that model, trim, color, or whatever. Guess what! There's a lot of dealers in the area that will have the same car. Your money is what is important. She wants it. Make her earn it.

Been doing this for over 2 months now and it's been a fun but an expensive adventure. These are my observation of how to spot an UTR.

Please add to the list if you like.

1-she gives you her cell number with her first response.

2-She asks you to send her money so she knows you are real and won't waste her time.

3-She asks for minimum of $600 per meeting (after negotiation).

4-She is open to meeting you at your place or hotel or her place on the first meeting.

5-Right away she wants to know how much of an allowance you are going to give her.

6-She wants money for the meet and greet.

7-She complains about too many cheap guys on the site. She accuses you of being cheap.

8-She messages you from another state, expecting airline ticket and hotel plus expenses, because she really likes your profile and wants to spend time with you.

9-She lives in a hotel.

10-She message you and tells you how handsome you are even though you don't have a public photo.

I can think of more but "top 13 or 14 list" does not sound right.

[QUOTE=jendabaze;2626503]Been doing this for over 2 months now and it's been a fun but an expensive adventure. These are my observation of how to spot an UTR.

[/QUOTE]There are some nice UTR girls on SA and they do come in handy in between SB's or if you just need a quick cheap booty call. I find that its far easier to keep them at a $ as there is no emotional involvement and I never get into or want to hear their personal problems.

I have never paid a BCG more than a $ for any reason. It's the LT SB's that bleed you. And a BCG could be a UTR or just an SB wanna be. And some of those UTR's are very low mileage.

Hey is Sara still around? The blond girl, you're theo only one I know that knows / knew her.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2616750]You guys need to get signed up to SA.
But if you like booty call girls then try SD4M.
This is advice for locals only.
My focus is always going to be AA girls.
So all the usual locals will apply.
But there is every type of girl available.

Also I may have deleted a recent post by accident. Tipisil I think. Sorry[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danny2;2627462]Hey is Sara still around? The blond girl, you're theo only one I know that knows / knew her.[/QUOTE]She lives or used to live pretty close to me. And no, I have not seen her. A little too much drama there for me to handle. She is probably still in the same apt she had across from LACC on Vermont.

Had my first SB over last night. Had been texting back and forth with a early 20's latina from the Valley and she was clearly just DTF. Not exactly my type as she was a little thick, but she had a cute face and, again, was DTF.

We agreed on $100 to meet at my FC. When she arrived I was pleasantly surprised. She was very cute, easy going and smart. We drank some wine, go to know each and then got down to business. Lots of making out and then went to the bedroom. While she was a little thick, she had a great ass and huge tits. Fucked twice in two hours (and she was really into it, which obviously was a huge turn on). Really did feel like FWB.

Sweet girl, will definitely call her again. Got to love the willingness to do outcall.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2628575]Had my first SB over last night. Had been texting back and forth with a early 20's latina from the Valley and she was clearly just DTF. Not exactly my type as she was a little thick, but she had a cute face and, again, was DTF.

We agreed on $100 to meet at my FC. When she arrived I was pleasantly surprised. She was very cute, easy going and smart. We drank some wine, go to know each and then got down to business. Lots of making out and then went to the bedroom. While she was a little thick, she had a great ass and huge tits. Fucked twice in two hours (and she was really into it, which obviously was a huge turn on). Really did feel like FWB.

Sweet girl, will definitely call her again. Got to love the willingness to do outcall.[/QUOTE]These girls are out there. A slightly think Latina, AA or mixed girl is always a little easier to get to the FC. They want it, they hope you like them, and the price shouldn't creep up. Good work.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2628844]These girls are out there. A slightly think Latina, AA or mixed girl is always a little easier to get to the FC. They want it, they hope you like them, and the price shouldn't creep up. Good work.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, just following your lead. Hopefully one day I'll figure out to how get the 8's and 9's for $ too: the.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2629373]Thanks man, just following your lead. Hopefully one day I'll figure out to how get the 8's and 9's for $ too: the.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls I get are 7/9 in looks. I don't need the prettiest girl. Just a hot body. Helps keep the costs down too.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2629373]Thanks man, just following your lead. Hopefully one day I'll figure out to how get the 8's and 9's for $ too: the.[/QUOTE]Congrats on the first success with this game. After you've built a solid rotation of a reliable group, you'll be able to get pickier in the important categories while holding on to your $ limit. Your game will get stronger as you continue to fine tune your approach and interactions. Once the ball gets rolling, you'll be turning them away.

Whatever happened with this one?

Met up with the 18 + 2 months again. Made her come 4 times in less than and hour and 1/2 which is more than she had done in her entire sexual life. Granted, she comes very easy, but it was a blast as I got to go down on her this time. She is very much into role play and I bought her a nurses outfit which she modeled and stockings that had openings for her ass and pussy. I put her on a bench in front of a mirror and did her doggie style. Damn, that young pussy is so tight and wet. We would fuck, suck, make out, rest and start again. She has only had shitty lovers, so that helps! LOL. But she LOVES showing off. The problem in terms of overhead is the hotel. She was surprised when I gave her a picture of Grant and that is exactly what I wanted. Her not to expect it. Next time I see her, a little gift like perfume and nothing else. After that, every other time or so a little gift. She is so happy someone is paying attention to her. I am on SA know, because HG said to go there, as I would like to have some SB closer to home, and I too love AA's.

Largess.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;2630279]Met up with the 18 + 2 months again. Made her come 4 times in less than and hour and 1/2 which is more than she had done in her entire sexual life. Granted, she comes very easy, but it was a blast as I got to go down on her this time. She is very much into role play and I bought her a nurses outfit which she modeled and stockings that had openings for her ass and pussy. I put her on a bench in front of a mirror and did her doggie style. Damn, that young pussy is so tight and wet. We would fuck, suck, make out, rest and start again. She has only had shitty lovers, so that helps! LOL. But she LOVES showing off. The problem in terms of overhead is the hotel. She was surprised when I gave her a picture of Grant and that is exactly what I wanted. Her not to expect it. Next time I see her, a little gift like perfume and nothing else. After that, every other time or so a little gift. She is so happy someone is paying attention to her. I am on SA know, because HG said to go there, as I would like to have some SB closer to home, and I too love AA's.

Largess.[/QUOTE]I am sure she will have no trouble letting you take some pics. Can't wait to see them.

Joined last night and already have a number of numbers. Met one today for a sensual massage. Worked out paying too much because uber did that surge thing. She is stunning with perfect breasts but unfortunately keeps her head about her. HJ was all I got. She didn't even take her leggings down. But She did get turned on and we made out and I got to suck on those incredible tits. She is also a very good masseuse and will do FS but for three times the price. She is pleasant and I will probably see her at least one more time. She said I was her first SA client. Wasn't a SD / SB deal and wasn't ever meant to be. Her pictures are small and don't do her justice. I thought she was flat chested and she has natural see's maybe even the's on a slim and toned body. Looks like Rosario Dawson who I think is stunning.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;2631171]Joined last night and already have a number of numbers. Met one today for a sensual massage. Worked out paying too much because uber did that surge thing. She is stunning with perfect breasts but unfortunately keeps her head about her. HJ was all I got. She didn't even take her leggings down. But She did get turned on and we made out and I got to suck on those incredible tits. She is also a very good masseuse and will do FS but for three times the price. She is pleasant and I will probably see her at least one more time. She said I was her first SA client. Wasn't a SD / SB deal and wasn't ever meant to be. Her pictures are small and don't do her justice. I thought she was flat chested and she has natural see's maybe even the's on a slim and toned body. Looks like Rosario Dawson who I think is stunning.[/QUOTE]I do HJ dates with a lot of girls and then try to work my magic. Half the time it works on the first date. If it doesnt work sometimes I will still give them a second chance if I like them. But that's it. And I never offer to pay more. But its good to just get out there and get the lay of the land so to speak.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2632146]
In very short order she was alternately working my dick, balls and ass. And getting all dominant on me. She said she never tried that before but she really liked it. I can go submissive about 10% of the time with the right girl so I was cool with it as well.

Not bad for a first attempt on her part.[/QUOTE]Today she attacked me. I have unleashed the genie (and not exactly the one I was dreaming of). Be careful what you wish for. LOL. But she did progress to some oral.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2632547]Today she attacked me. I have unleashed the genie (and not exactly the one I was dreaming of). Be careful what you wish for. LOL. But she did progress to some oral.[/QUOTE]I'm curious, what do you think brought this on? Was it the idea of you going to visit that other girl?

[QUOTE=Ed210;2632610]I'm curious, what do you think brought this on? Was it the idea of you going to visit that other girl?[/QUOTE]Everytime my ATF comes over she has to leave. Before she is always super nice to me and then after she is depressed. We are dating civi style and slowly ramping up. Its a pretty big deal. This is her home now. But she has to accept my lifestyle. We say I love you many times a day now.

My ATF is pretty worried too, but she has nothing to worry about. They are total opposites. So really no competition. The only other girls in the picture at all are my Church Girl who isn't worried about anyone, my x roommate who is not moving back and I only see once a month, and my x GF that I was considering going back to that doesn't know yet.

So just the normal girl stuff that goes on when you date a lot of girls. Sometimes it gets tiring, but its worth it.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2633964]Today was my roommates birthday (34) so I made us a nice dinner. This is one of the few real GF type relationships I have had in the last 7 years. I had a few SB's that were a lot of fun, but this feels different. Which doesn't mean it's going to last. But I am down for another month. And no static from her about changing my lifestyle. I also haven't fucked her yet. But September went by pretty fast. I am trying to slim her 5'7" frame down a bit, so far she is stuck at 119 but if she gets down to 110 I might have to rethink things. As I do have a spinner fetish.

As much as I have tried, overall I have not really lowered my per date average from last year. I am saving a little money but only because of fewer trips to the FC. My per date average including every possible expense except gas is at $.66 so far this year.[/QUOTE]She looks like one fine piece of ass.

[QUOTE=Deerom;2634185]She looks like one fine piece of ass.[/QUOTE]She is a bit on the exotic side and speaks three languages. But there is only one language I am interested in and it doesn't require much speaking other than "Yes Daddy".

I noticed yoou started posting her face pics. Is that because she is ok with it now. You used to post somewhat anaonymized pics before. In general, do you ask them before you post pics. You have had some pretty racy ones here.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2634324]She is a bit on the exotic side and speaks three languages. But there is only one language I am interested in and it doesn't require much speaking other than "Yes Daddy".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VoxDei;2634489]I noticed yoou started posting her face pics. Is that because she is ok with it now. You used to post somewhat anaonymized pics before. In general, do you ask them before you post pics. You have had some pretty racy ones here.[/QUOTE]The racy ones never show their face. I ones with their face will never be racy. All pics of anyone I have banged are unsearchable as they are from my collection only and not posted anywhere else. And no girl knows about this site from me. Its like fight club on here. Unless you are cookie jar.

Are we eskimo brothers now? I am going to change my name to bollywood. LOL.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2635434]The racy ones never show their face. I ones with their face will never be racy. All pics of anyone I have banged are unsearchable as they are from my collection only and not posted anywhere else. And no girl knows about this site from me. Its like fight club on here. Unless you are cookie jar.[/QUOTE]

This site has been interesting. Lots more girls willing to meet for $ although next week is when I will really know if it comes true. Lots wanting thousands but lots happy with the offer. Always cracked me up when they complain that they're not prostitutes. Yes, you are, you just think that by charging in the thousands it makes you something else. We all know the old joke and it never was more applicable than on that site. The expectation means nothing as some will state one thing and take another. As always the AA and Latinas are the most likely to go with the deal. Would LOVE to find an Asian girl but they don't seem to find me interesting.

I celebrated my one year anniversary with my ATF last night. We managed to get 81 trips to the FC in our first year. Her average came to $.34 per visit, not too bad considering all the ubers. She surprised me with her new blue and white hairdo ala farah faucet. She knows I have a teen barbie fetish. Usually by one year I am totally burnt out on any girl. But we are still going strong.

Just filling up space tonite. My ATF has me spoiled to the point where every other girl is just an also ran. My new roomy is no exception. I love the company and reminded myself what a real GF acts like in between FC time. Its nice but just can't compare to bomb ass sex. My Church Girl is cool and we have covered some new ground as the months have clicked by. But if I see here more than once a week I know it will get old. Seen her about 20 times now.

Need to find a fresh young thing or two. There really is no shortage (except for time and money). They are both hurdles that can and will be overcome.

Just made an account recently. Any tips from those that have had much luck on that site?

With many contributions from our very own HWG.

[QUOTE=Tipisil;2639497]Just made an account recently. Any tips from those that have had much luck on that site?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tipisil;2639497]Just made an account recently. Any tips from those that have had much luck on that site?[/QUOTE]Start by being very picky. Also decide on a budget and stick to it. Set up some saved searches so you only see the girls in your demographic. Just cruise for a few days and don't message anyone. PM me a few profiles and I'll tell you what I think. And good luck.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2639520]Start by being very picky. Also decide on a budget and stick to it. Set up some saved searches so you only see the girls in your demographic. Just cruise for a few days and don't message anyone. PM me a few profiles and I'll tell you what I think. And good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Especially about messaging you. Means a lot coming from someone like you.

Went to Vegas for the weekend and did some SA research / reaching out beforehand. Had a few interested girls and I finally settled on a short, petite 19 year old black girl. Although I've been trying to be firm on $100 per meet, I figured I was in Vegas so I anticipated a slightly higher payout. We agreed to $200.

She showed up at my hotel and was dressed a little frumpy -- yoga pants and a blazer (strange combo). I suppose it was better for her to dress down than up, as a lot of the higher end hotels are wary of escorts / hookers. Anyway, we went up to my room and she was refreshingly very normal and sweet. I offered her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes before she asked to use the bathroom.

She came out completely naked except for her panties. Huge natural Cs on a tiny, petite frame. I undressed and we started DFKing like crazy. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ and then I returned the favor with DATY. She was responsive, although laying it on a little thick with the moaning. I appreciated the effort though.

When I came back up, she grabbed my cock and slid me in -- she was soaking wet and felt amazing. We went at it for a while, mixing up the positions. When I told her I was getting close, she told me to cum in her mouth. She sucked me dry and swallowed every drop.

Afterwards we cuddled and chatted -- she's very bright and seems to have a good head on her shoulders.

A great session at an amazing price. I've blown tons of $ on escorts / strippers / AMPs in Vegas (sometimes for little to no pay off), so I'm happy to say that my SA / SB test run worked out like gangbusters. Just something to consider when any of you gents go out of town and need an alternative to the usual sources.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2639588]Went to Vegas for the weekend and did some SA research / reaching out beforehand. Had a few interested girls and I finally settled on a short, petite 19 year old black girl. Although I've been trying to be firm on $100 per meet, I figured I was in Vegas so I anticipated a slightly higher payout. We agreed to $200.

She showed up at my hotel and was dressed a little frumpy -- yoga pants and a blazer (strange combo). I suppose it was better for her to dress down than up, as a lot of the higher end hotels are wary of escorts / hookers. Anyway, we went up to my room and she was refreshingly very normal and sweet. I offered her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes before she asked to use the bathroom.

She came out completely naked except for her panties. Huge natural Cs on a tiny, petite frame. I undressed and we started DFKing like crazy. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ and then I returned the favor with DATY. She was responsive, although laying it on a little thick with the moaning. I appreciated the effort though.

When I came back up, she grabbed my cock and slid me in -- she was soaking wet and felt amazing. We went at it for a while, mixing up the positions. When I told her I was getting close, she told me to cum in her mouth. She sucked me dry and swallowed every drop.

Afterwards we cuddled and chatted -- she's very bright and seems to have a good head on her shoulders.

A great session at an amazing price. I've blown tons of $ on escorts / strippers / AMPs in Vegas (sometimes for little to no pay off), so I'm happy to say that my SA / SB test run worked out like gangbusters. Just something to consider when any of you gents go out of town and need an alternative to the usual sources.[/QUOTE]For $$ I could be banging nothing but hot SA AA girls all day. But being the cheap mofo that I am I stick to a $ to get started. And even if they are UTR, a lot of them are pretty low mileage. But I will never go the straight pro, strip club or AMP route with all the good selection available on SA. And sometimes you can get a hot $$ or even $$$ dollar pro for a $. But when they say yes to that you have to literally run over there, because by the next day or two the deal will be off the table. I just missed out on an amazingly good looking porn star for that very reason last month.

Frequency and resources are a factor as well. I hover at about 20 dates a month. So paying the girl $$ and then all the other possible associated costs, (room, booze, food, ubers) it can really add up. I need to average out at about 3k a month and that would never be possible with the $$ girls. I estimate they would push me to close to $$$ a date with those associated expenses. As it is I am at $.6 now. Some gils are at $ flat, but with my ATF or roommate I have to give in to the extra costs. But great report and keep them coming (with pics if possible). Most girls love having their pic taken. Makes em feel like a porn star.

I am not knocking the 99% of guys on USASG that want a different girl everyday. It's just not my thing. I get a much bigger rush from where I am gonna be able to push a regular I am seeing exclusively and over a long period of time. It's the only way for me to be able to get to the intensity of the kind of sex I need, and all the special techniques to accommodate my needs and all the training it takes to get a girl to that place. It just isnt possible any other way than with an SB.

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This probably should be in the PM I guess.

[blue]Yes, they should[/blue]

On a side note on my last trip to LA I picked up a new baby in the Glendale area. I travel to Burbank periodically. I call her my Persian baby.

Which seems to produce more / better results, sd4 m or sa? I have made an sd4 me account but not paid yet because I heard about SA and was wondering which was better. Hell should I just do both? What are yall thoughts?

[QUOTE=BlackBone;2639955]Which seems to produce more / better results, sd4 m or sa? I have made an sd4 me account but not paid yet because I heard about SA and was wondering which was better. Hell should I just do both? What are yall thoughts?[/QUOTE]At this time SA is way better. I only do SA now.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2639588]Went to Vegas for the weekend and did some SA research / reaching out beforehand. Had a few interested girls and I finally settled on a short, petite 19 year old black girl. Although I've been trying to be firm on $100 per meet, I figured I was in Vegas so I anticipated a slightly higher payout. We agreed to $200.

She showed up at my hotel and was dressed a little frumpy -- yoga pants and a blazer (strange combo). I suppose it was better for her to dress down than up, as a lot of the higher end hotels are wary of escorts / hookers. Anyway, we went up to my room and she was refreshingly very normal and sweet. I offered her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes before she asked to use the bathroom.

She came out completely naked except for her panties. Huge natural Cs on a tiny, petite frame. I undressed and we started DFKing like crazy. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ and then I returned the favor with DATY. She was responsive, although laying it on a little thick with the moaning. I appreciated the effort though.

When I came back up, she grabbed my cock and slid me in -- she was soaking wet and felt amazing. We went at it for a while, mixing up the positions. When I told her I was getting close, she told me to cum in her mouth. She sucked me dry and swallowed every drop.

Afterwards we cuddled and chatted -- she's very bright and seems to have a good head on her shoulders.

A great session at an amazing price. I've blown tons of $ on escorts / strippers / AMPs in Vegas (sometimes for little to no pay off), so I'm happy to say that my SA / SB test run worked out like gangbusters. Just something to consider when any of you gents go out of town and need an alternative to the usual sources.[/QUOTE]Did you pick her from an escort site, or from one of those ubiquitous cards they distribute on the Strip?

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2640420]Did you pick her from an escort site, or from one of those ubiquitous cards they distribute on the Strip?[/QUOTE]It says in his post he found her on SA. [URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL].